Why Do Mem Deck Magic? | The How's and Why's | Magic Stuff With Craig Petty
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- Mem Deck Magic How and Why - Magic Stuff With Craig Petty
On today's episode of Magic Stuff Craig is going to be talking about memorising a deck of cards. There are several powerful routines you can do with men deck magic and unfortunately most magicians have never learnt a stack.
In this video Craig shares five of his favourite tricks with a mem deck. He then talks about why you should use a membership deck, how to memorise one easily and the difference between long term and short term memory. Finally he talks about how to use a member deck in the REAL WORLD.
If you use a mom deck or have ever considered memorising a deck this is a video that you absolutely should watch.
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Hey Craig, I just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that:
1. Your channel is criminally under-rated for the topic of magic
2. I'm a total noob at magic and your channel is really helping me
3. You are keeping the craft alive by introducing magic to beginners
4. You are always on point with the subject matter, you don't drift off into tangents
5. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this for us beginners
05:49 first she named the 3c, after that she named the 6d.. That was pure magic. What a great assistant 😅
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The first process your describing learimg the mem deck is called "Chunking"
Love it, Im gonna take the steps to learn me a mem deck.
Thanks for the inspiration! I was definitely one of those with misconceptions of how to use a memdeck
Superb teaching, Craig. A healthy 80 year old, I will think seriously about learning a mem deck.
You really should. It will serve you well. I promise.
And YES please for the 5 best memdeck routines you love !!
I’m on it. Thanks for commenting.
I'd love a top five for mem deck.....my personal favorite is birthday card, they cut to a card that matches card on their birthday in calender
I don't mean to brag or anything but I memorized new deck order fast. it only took me 2 months. 😆
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Good work man.
I'm assuming your joking Lol
2 months…? I memorized it in 2 weeks with just a photo of the stack lol. So you’re not bragging at all, no worries. Also, after a couple months of using it, memorizing backwards is plausible as well.
Teach me
I learnt inside out in three days 👀
Thank you!!! Finally, I now have some idea of how Dani DaOrtiz was able to accomplish some of the feats on his classic Penn and Teller Fooler. I love the idea of Jazzing-on, or riffing on. You have a certain set of skills, and then you just improvise on them. Now Jason Ladanye has me stumped. That guy has mad skillz. I have no concept about his methods. The stuff he does seems impossible.
I am glad I come across your channel I have struggled with slight of hand. You have sold it to me. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Learned mnemonica - mostly because of this video - currently going through card college... no trouble with level 1 and 2, got my master, still working on level 3 for my PhD (I understand the principle, just need to practice my calls) :)
What an amazing weapon to have in the arsenal, a mem deck. Laymen will never suspect anything, they can't even start to think that one could be so crazy as to memorize an entire deck of card!
Thank you Craig, and for anybody else who is interested in learning menmonica, it took me around one week... At first I could go through the sequence but didn't have instant recall, that took a while longer. I practiced with a deck of cards with numbers on the back, mixing face up into face down, and going through for variation... Also used an app on the phone to practice any time I didn't have the cards with me.
After a while you just "see" the card numbers. You get a King of hearts in your hands and you just tell yourself "Oh hello Mr. 35!" It's a funny feeling :)
Brilliant. I had mnemonica memorized but recent traumas put me out of practice. Now rememorizing. Your examples were amazing. Pit's books are so good. I used to do Sherlock. When you combine mem with marked you now have superpowers.
Man, I have an uncut sheet in Mnemonica above my bed, I have Peter Turner's Stack Watch that I wear a lot, I've tried the technique Rick Lax teaches on video and PDF from Penguin, I have an app sending me notifications every 10 minutes, but it doesn't stick if I skip a day or two. Now, what I'm going to try is just writing a schedule like you said and putting a few cards a day in my pocket where I keep my phone and every time I go to mess around on social media, I'm going to have to do a run through of the cards of the day. If that doesn't work, I'm going to sing it all at the top of my lungs until I either commit it to memory or get evicted from my apartment. Which ever comes first. Hahahaha. Great video as always!
Don’t overcomplicate things. Just take it one day at a time. It’s a marathon not a sprint. All good things come to those that wait. Trust me it’s worth it.
@@magic-tv Absolutely. Will do! Thanks, Craig!
Awesome advice as usual 😃 agree with everything you said! I used Dominic O’BRIEN memory system, with a 52 stop journey and a name and action for each card. A fair bit of homework in the beginning, but once you have the structure, it’s quite doable to know a stack in long term in about a week. It’s easy to practice and recall with the journey, especially when going backwards 😆 thanks again, Cheers M
I learnt Aronson stack years ago but I hardly ever use it it when I'm working. I think it's mainly because I find you need a table surface to perform a lot of the tricks and they also involve counting procedures. Would be good to see your 5 best routines with the mem deck Craig. I do think once you've memorised the deck inside out and leave it alone for a couple months. Once you come back to it and played with it again, after about an hour of practicing you've got the stack in mind instantly again. So it's just like riding a bike you never forget it.
Damn it Craig. You're gonna make me have to memorize a stack.
Thank Craig, great video. I Memorised the Aaronson stack, and only used one really simple trick from it. You’ve inspired me to go back and use the stack for all the tricks. Thank you
Brilliant Craig. Just started mem deck last weekend and this vid has inspired me more. Thanks so much 😁👌
Excellent vid, Craig. I learned Crosbie's shadow stack years ago. Didn't do any card magic at all since 2018, and easily picked up where I left off a couple of weeks ago. It took 2 evenings of refreshing my memory of the stack and I was back to instant recall. So that's over 3 years without using it at all but because I learned it properly originally, it was easy to refresh.
I mainly just use it for the estimation trick and an incredibly clean and fair divination of a card where they cut to a card I never see, then they shuffle. It consistently gets the strongest reactions of all the magic I do, and yet its also the easiest. A good presentation with a memdeck can turn a "pick a card" good trick into a "think of a card" absolute miracle
I appreciate this video because I had these questions in my mind for ages. Thank you
Great advice. I’d be interested in another installment about mem deck work. It’s very valuable having a working pro putting these out on a daily basis. Gold.
I’m planning another follow up video in the new year. Thanks for the kind words.
Thanks for all of this information, Craig - comprehensive, inspiring and well presented. Your videos are gold and I feel grateful to have access to them for free!
Thanks very much. I’m really glad that you have found it useful.
This is the best video you have ever uploaded.
🙏🙏🙏
Great video, learning a stack really is the best thing you can do to take your card magic to the next level.
I just learned a stack and this video is very helpful. Thank you for this.
Really great teaching thanks
Thanks Craig 👍
I just got back into magic for my grand kids. Definitely don't have the time or dedication to try this, but I really was curious of how it's used. I'm new to your channel but it's always worth tuning in. Thanks, gef
Excellent video as usual... I chose Woody Aragon's Memorandum stack, as it fits with the self-working / maths stuff I like to do. He has some really good stuff on mem deck / stack work in his Penguin lectures. One thing that stuck with me was his advice on letting someone shuffle your stack. He said... 'let them shuffle it... you are left with every other trick that doesn't involve stacks!' You have to be able to adapt. If you watch Woody's Penguin 2 show, he shows you Stewart James' favourite stack, which is produced from NDO. Juan Tamariz does some awesome stuff with his half-mnemonica stack work too... well worth researching.
Great video, Craig. I learnt mnemonica by using the Rick Lax trainer. Took 2-3 days to learn the system and be able to recall all the cards (albeit slowly), after a week or so it became second nature. I wanted to learn it mainly so I could perform Asi Wind’s acaan, which I can now perform. I plan to pick up Juan Tamariz mnemonica book so I can fully take advantage of this stack. Your video will certainly give me some ideas on jazzing in the meantime 👍
Thanks man. It’s a great tool with so many applications that you can utilise. I’ve heard greet things about the Lax method but I’ve not seen it myself.
Welcome to the Mem Deck Club.
I also recommend Rick Lax Mnemonica Trainer... I don’t have good memory and I got mnemonica memorized in 2 days. In 1 week it was 100% mastered. Such an incredible product.
Thank you Craig! An informative and entertaining 40 mins. Currently trying to learn the Aronson deck using The Memory Arts book. This has given me fresh impetus to succeed.
I’ve glad it had an impact. If I can help just let me know. Thanks.
I think I'm going to try and segue the first 2 phases of the routine by closing with an ACAAN.
Briliant video. Thanks alot 👍
Well I took your advice and started to learn and memorize a deck as opposed to the SS deck.
Starting with only five cards though I was done in 10 minutes so I'm working with 10 cards initially...
great video, I just memonrized mnemonica and this was very helpful
Loved the video! Was there a follow up video to this, I can’t seem to find it and I’m really keen to learn your favourite Memorised deck routines Craig. Thank you
Thanks Craig! I am a huge stack fan. I am using the Redford stack. I'd love to see anything mem deck related. You keep teasing the Matt Baker interview. I am REALLY looking forward to that!
All good things come to those that wait. The Matt Baker interview is pure gold.
Superb video mate, loved it. Without the reason WHY the method how doesn’t matter.... That’s why this was sooo good - you really sold WHY to learn to Mem Deck. Great routines mate. Loved it
Means a lot coming from you Sean. Really glad you liked the video.
I can recommend Rick Lax's Memdeck teaching on penguin. It's great
Awesome 🎉
Amazing
I use the Joyal stack by Martin Joyal. I like it very much. Every card position is defined by a rule. Even if I haven't used the stack for months, I can remember the rules easily and quickly calculate the position of each card. This stack looks much more random than for St Stebbins.
Amazing stuff. Love mnemonica. Took me months to get it. No special magic to memorize a deck. Just plain old hard work. Would love a top 5 mem tricks
A great way to learn Mnemonica is with Rick Lax's Mnemonica Trainer!
Wonderful video, Craig. Can you point us in the right direction on the riffle shuffle you did? Heinstein?
Trick that made me commit to memorizing a deck: Histed Heisted by Simon Aronson
I'd be interested in a second memdeck video Craig!
This is a great video! Thank you for this. If you did make the video highlighting the best 5 mem deck tricks can you point me to it?
Great video. Might start learning the mem deck
You really really should.
Thought you might be interested to hear that after listening to your advice on learning the mem deck I have found it very useful and am making great progress. The best thing that you said was with regards to thinking of it as if learning a new sleight. I had always thought of it as a real ball ache to learn a mem deck, but this simple re framing has made it a joy to learn now.
Also as a side note, your videos are now my favourite on the toilet watches! 🤣😂
Great work and you continue to produce fantastic learning resources which I often find just as valuable if not more so than many magic purchases that I make.
Right I've finished kissing your ass now. Keep it real 😎
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Thanks! Let me know how you get on. I think you’ll love it.
Inspirational.
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
Thank you, I have been wanting to learn MNEMONICA for a long time. Going to get to it right away now. One question, where can I find Pete Turners method of stacking a deck in front of an audience?
Amazing video !!! I ve been using Mnemonica for 3 years it took me 2 weeks to memorized it properly and the app Mnemonicosis really helped me a lot... I would love to see another video with the content that you mentioned. Question : There is a pdf download called jazzin the mnemonicosis do you know if this worth to buy?
Hey Craig, thank you for you very interesting videos! Useful content! Could you point me to the source of the Peter Turner routine you mentioned how to set the stack up under the eyes of your specators?
Absolutely. He published it in the instructions to the stack watch by Ellusionist
Rick lax trainer is how i got into tamariz stack ! It's the best trainer on the market as if for me ! Everything is easy with this stack.I got thoses star wars amazing cards too ! I like the 8 kings stack for easier stack withouth having to think too much but honestly i only use tamariz stack now XD
You've convinced me 2 days ago.. brute forced the entire deck in 2 days while I was on the (boring) job. It's so worth the effort..!!
This is fantastic tips and thanks for sharing. I'd be interested in that Peter Turner impromptu stack, is that something specific I should search for?
Hey. Thanks for the kind words. Peter shared his ideas on the stack watch download from Ellusionist. It’s very good.
Hello Craig! I agree with @centralscruntizer, your channel is criminally under-rated!
I just stumbled upon and watched your "How's and Why's" of the memorized deck yesterday. I've followed your advice, numbered the cards, and started memorizing. What's a good source for learning routines after memorizing the stack? How many false cuts and shuffles are you incorporating in your work with the deck?
Thank you for pointing me to a start!
Hey Craig, is there any apps or website that you can make a custom mem deck and practice?
Wow that video really demystified a lot of things for me. Any tutorials how you managed to match those pairs of black cards though? Totally fooled
You need to learn a mem deck if you wanna hang with the big boys. And Yes! A top 5 best mem deck effects would be awesome.
Great video!
Thanks very much James. Much appreciated
@@magic-tv I’m just recently becoming familiar with some of your work. You’re excellent Craig! Thanks for the post!
Would love a follow up. Where can you the Peter turner Stack setting?
He talks about it in great detail on the download that accompanies the Stack Watch.
Great video. Can You recomment any books or dvds with only mem-tricks only? I have Juan Tamariz book and the dvds already.Thanks.
I know that this comment is probably a bit late but I wanted to through in a bit of psychology to help. People have trouble with mem decks at first (and give up on) is that they sabotage themselves by thinking they are memorizing one really complicated thing. A "machine" with 52 parts seems complicated. But that isn't what you are doing. You are memorizing 52 simple things. Associating 52 cards with 52 numbers. This is no more difficult that remembering the names of 52 people. If I asked you to learn the names of 52 people over the course of a week, you would probably find it a trivial challenge. Now, eventually, you will be memorizing more about the stack if you want to be throughly fluent but it is just a matter of building on the "frame" you have already constructed. You can do it!!
Great advice and I just got Juan Tamariz's Mnemonics.
Yes do a follow-up video.
Thanks Shawn. Already scripting a follow up video for the new year.
@@magic-tv I am looking forward to your next video.
What s the pete turner method of stacking the deck called? where can I find info?
Craig where can we find the Peter turned way of stacking the cards infront of the spectators you mentioned @ 35:07 ?
You can learn it when you buy his stack watch
Great Craig, thanks for sharing this ! I love memdeck magic too. Where is the Turner stacking idea to be found please ?
Yeah even i wanted to know
He talked in great detail about this on the download that comes with the stack watch from Ellusionist. The download was awesome and full of brilliant information.
@@magic-tv thanks for the info Craig !
It can also be found in Mnemonica book by Juan Tamariz where he mentions about stacking the deck infront of your spectators.
Throughout the process, shuffle the cards face up into face down so you’re learning card to number and number to card at the same time. Keep shuffling face up into face down so you get to see different sides of different cards come up throughout
35:03 Where can I find this Pete Turner method?
Hi Craig - You memorize the deck and then repeatedly shuffle it. Surely that disrupts the order? To me, a novice, your shuffles don't look false so how does that work? Great stuff I enjoy all your vids.
They are false shuffles. I use a lot of false shuffles when I’m performing mem deck magic to throw off the audience.
I am planning on doing a video on false shuffles at some point so look out for it.
@@magic-tv what is the name of the false riffle you did in the clip?
@@magic-tv I WILL be looking for that video, Craig. Those are, without doubt, the best false shuffles I have ever seen. You ARE the master!
Ok since you asked. Been working daily with Aronson Stack. I meet the man in the 70s, was not into magic then. Three years ago I retire after teaching for 20 years. Hate gardening, chose magic. Saw a post on Magic Cafe about Aronson's Prior Commitment, a trick that fooled Penn and Teller. So bought Do the Impossible. Inside was a chart of the stack. Started with the first middle last cards. I have 100s of pieces of paper where I wrote down the order, over and over and over. Used peg words to get the stack. Do a 10 card reveal, makes me smile preforming it. Just started adding simple math. Just added in a faro. Love your spin pack peek, very cool. Hope you put mem deck on your Netricks project. Don't jazz yet, on the list of stuff to master. Thanks, great teaching.
FINE! I'll do it, but you better recommend me the best and cleanest version of ACAAN ever!
Asi Wind ACAAN. Absolutely brilliant.
@@magic-tv nice one 👍 nailed the first 5 cards today as per your instruction 😎
@@magic-tv second that, closest thing to a holy grail.
Please put out "best" five Memorized deck tricks
Here are some I have enjoyed...
Mnemonicosis (Juan Tamariz)
Past, Present, Future (Simon Aronson)
A Card and a Number (Al Baker)
Half-Stack ACAAN (Juan Tamariz)
Test Your Luck (Darwin Ortiz)
No Hands Memory Test! (Bill Malone)
Three Card Location (Steve Ehlers)
Triple Fried (Matt Baker)
Remote Control (Darwin Ortiz)
Everybody’s Lazy (Simon Aronson)
The Invisible Card (Simon Aronson)
Some absolutely awesome routines there mate. Very good selection.
I’m planning on it.
I keep getting to about remembering 20 cards then i lose interest and forget it all unless i keep at it.
3 of spades 😜
It’s worth the effort. It really is. Just keep at it and when you hit the wall climb over it.
If you’re learning mnemonica, I highly recommend Rick Pax’s trainer available through penguin. Only took me a few days to learn, and my memory and attention span is shite.
Math problem lol