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@@DisasterBreakdown I saw the word “movie,” in your pinned comment, and I thought maybe that was her channel members (well I’m subscribed, but I meant Patreon- which one of these days I hope to join) but until I saw this comment… and looked to see how long the video is… and saw that it was like probably double the longest one I’ve ever seen of yours, even after they doubled in time! That’s if I’m thinking of the right channel (there’s one other that covers the same topics generally speaking which I enjoy almost as much as yours so I might be confused about that. But I feel like they used to be like 12 or 13 minutes and then they doubled to more like a half hour.) It’s worth the wait for us regular subscribed folk and I wish it was a happier topic, but a good thing to shed light on and more fully inform those of us who aren’t really in the field but have interest in it. At least since finding yours and a couple of other channels. After watching some stuff about 911 around the anniversary That’s when CZcams started showing me everything planes. And now they just keep showing me because I keep watching. 😂
@@DisasterBreakdownhonestly I really appreciate it, I’ve hearing issues in one side so I always use subtitles, it’s genuinely really amazing seeing that you have them ready for every video, bless you lass!
You are so right. As a reluctant member of the hearing-impaired community, I find that Chloe’s excellent videos are tops amongst the online material I’m able to fully appreciate. Thanks, Chloe!
For me it's that thick Geordie accent... (Kidding!) I actually have hearing loss too, and terrible tinnitus from a head injury. Good captions really help. I can only crank my TV so loud before the upstairs neighbors start stomping on the floor.
Green Dot Aviation. Allec Joshua Ibay. Brick Immortar. Ocleanliner Designs. Blancholirio. Mentour Pilot. Chubbyemu. Disaster Breakdown. The best disaster channels with impeccable research. Rivaling any traditional source, like tv. Can't tell you how much i appreciate you, and the others with very high standards of accuracy. You keep us informed!
HOW HAVE I NOT HEARD OF YOU?!? Incredible content, so amazing- I just found you in a seconds to disaster playlist, and now I’m off to binge the rest of your content, sharing to everyone I know who loves learning!
They merged and McDonnell Douglas has majority. Boeing used to be run by experienced engineers most all of it in house. Now it’s been run by bean counters since the merger. That’s my understanding.
I’m not sure if flight 302’s list was posted; I’ve had problems with CZcams comments getting filtered before. If not, the comment is somewhere in the comment section.*
The weird thing is I've flown on the MAX on Alaska and Southwest, but also understand the severity of the issue not just with the planes but Boeing as a whole now. The entire company needs a shakeup from the top to middle. I can't blame the workers, they're caught in a position they didn't want to be in.
I have it on, shall we say, extremely good authority that many MANY Boeing maintenance workers were either laid off or quit in the past few years, some due to COVID and some probably just general cost cutting. I'm sure this is just a microcosm of that shitshow. The workers being trained now are up against institutional hurdles that I empathize with. :/
@@nyanbinary1717 you're not wrong. Before I stopped driving trucks I delivered to some of the Boeing facilities and it went from you know everyone you dealt with to a revolving door each week of people "not working out" and leaving. I got the vibe the ones who cared were ran out and the ones who just wanted a check remained. Hope they could turn it around but don't see it under the regime they have or the profits over people mentality that's rampant
If Boeing really lost or got rid of the employees who were trying to sound the alarm, that would be the biggest mistake I've ever heard a company making. I remember seeing a Boeing whistle blower talking about debris being left inside aircraft like aluminum drilling chips, tools, rivets, screws, nuts, washers, etc which bundles of wires would be in contact with buried deep within the planes. Things that normally aren't on a maintenance check list after a plane is delivered. I think we're not done with Boeing problems. I believe things left inside aircraft will start to cause problems with Boeing aircraft in the next 10 years as these wiring harnesses start to wear through at the points where they touch foreign objects deep within the aircraft. They're going to lose a few jets because of debris. And they lost a free great employees who complained about this issue. Oh Boeing, chasing profit destroyed you, very much destroyed you. What a shame. The thousands of employees who always did the right thing before must be so upset with the employees who did this. The managers or high up or whatever, probably not the low man on the totem pole.
"So I guess it's up to me: A strange girl on the Internet with pink hair and pronouns to set the record straight!" My sides went into orbit with that line. 🤣
@@michellejirak9945 It probably is your monitor settings because she definitely has pink hair on my displays. If you're also using something like f.lux as well to redshift your displays at night, that might also be something to check.
Omggggg😅 me too!!!!! I'm deathly terrified of flying in airplanes, but I'm obsessed with aviation videos and true crime videos. I'm so glad I'm not a weirdo ! There are others like me!!!!😊
@@joseCalderon1976 omg!😱now that, i couldn't do!!!! no way. i would hightail it outta the airport never to be seen again. they could keep my money, no need for a refund.
@@DisasterBreakdownI was staring at it for a while trying to figure out if there was a hidden message in the choice of destinations, but if there is, it's hidden too well for me
This story always freaked me out. Being a software engineer, this reminds me of all the times I did something stupid that caused some error that was easy to predict and prevent. Except in this case, people died. Don't worry, I'm never going to design flight control software.
You lined up the entire 737 MAX saga in perfect detail and simplified it for everyone to understand and digest- i’ve seen your videos a couple of times before, but you earned my full support of this channel from me! 😊
One thing I like about your videos is that they are sufficiently clear and detailed that I can listen to them and comprehend them without actually having to look at the screen. I "watch" while working on my stained glass so my eyes are on my solder joints most of the time.
@@WhiteWolf-lm7gj Thank you for asking. I'm mostly working on suncatchers for craft fair sales right now. Doing a series of spring flowers and some hens and roosters. I've also done a couple pet portraits for family members. What do you paint?
@@mbvoelker8448 Oh, that's awesome! I'm working on a blue jay painting right now, and I've done a flower vase as a wedding gift in the past, but I also do some more abstract stylized designs. I'm in college, so I'm planning to take painting classes when my schedule allows!
Yeah but they're a little TOO detailed, TOO OVERLOADED with information.... you're left sitting and fidgeting and saying "oh just get on with the basic narrative, I haven't got all day!!...."
It's just heartbreaking. Boeing used to he a shining example of American ingenuity and innovation. A sad sad situation of relentless pursuit of profit from a now underdog in competition, combined with lax or outright corrupt government oversight resulted in the loss of hundreds of lives AND a sterling reputation.
The whistleblower, before he "committed suicide", revealed that Boeing no longer have people with engineering degrees running the company. It's now a bunch of execs who have no clue how a modern airplane even works.
I usually just listen to your episodes while I am working, so no visual. Have you always made an appearance? Well, seeing you in full blown presenter/narrator mode I'm surprised and delighted. You are a great video presence; entertaining, amusing, geeky, and with good on-screen confidence. Makes your episodes even better ❤
The balance you strike between explaining thorough technical details and relatable, informative reporting is stunning. I feel like you have curated your videos perfectly for your audience - passionate aviation fans but not necessarily experts/professionals, though I'm sure they would be/are impressed with your content! One of my favourite aviation channels!
Chloe I'd like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for us such high quality content with subtitles! As someone with ADHD I cant watch anything without subtitles.
I always try to have subtitles in all my videos going forward. CZcams makes it very easy for creators who do scripted content. Everyone should add subtitles :)
I wish plainly difficult had subtitles on every video. He's the only one of my disaster channel quadfecta that doesn't do them (the others being Fascinating Horror, Brick Immortar, and of course Chloe)
@@CherrrrBear it isn't necessarily, but ADHD is often comorbid with auditory processing disorder. Which is basically when your ears work perfectly but your brain's ability to interpret other people's mouth sounds into words with meanings doesn't work
my mum actually knew the family of one of the passengers who passed away on the Ethiopian Airlines flight. And i just wanted to say, that in his memory, his family has raised thousands of dollars in donations to create a fund that finically supports indigenous students and to restore an estuary in his hometown. :)
You sound so much more confident! I'm a sort of casual subscriber so this is my first time seeing you. Looks like you're doing great, and it shows :) also always love stuff about the hot mess that is the 737 max so looking forward to the rest of the video! (p.s. from a brother to a sister, I wish you luck and happiness as you grow more into yourself 💗)
had to just pause the the video for a second to tell you i LOVE how high quality your content is!! Each new episode i leave more and more pleased at how much effort you put into this content. I deeply appreciate seeing the little reference number footnotes (which i really noticed around 35:23) so I can go look at your references and sources to get more info. I also LOVE seeing you in these gorgeous outfits and amazing makeup with all the figurines and pictures, I just see the heart and passion in this and the growing skills and talent and investment. Thank you for making these videos for us, I enjoy them so so much!
Not only is this very well done and explained in a comprehensive way even a non-aviation person can understand, it's very obvious that you feel much better in your skin. You radiate joy and confidence!
@@beenaplumber8379 right? I liked the first one too and loved this format of video. I learn so much and love her comments and fun personality showing through.
@@DisasterBreakdowni hope your dreams come true! i have a lot of followers on bluesky and they take my recommendations on good videos/media in general seriously (huge change for me lol, finally a social media service that appreciates my weird girl sense of humour) so i hope that even if you don’t make it to trending, that you get a lot of views and new subscribers :)
since ive been made to retire at 52 through injury and now disability Chloe your videos and youtube as a whole have really really helped me get out of a rut, ive since turned my shed into a workshop where i do woodcarvings and bushcraft knives for friends, so thank you Chloe you help make my day constructive
Comprehensive is a perfect description! New subscriber here. I loved the amount of detail especially the photos from the preliminary NTSB report. Definitely one of my new favourite aviation channels. I loved the long format by the way! But shorter videos are good too. Big bonus was your humour! Great video! Also the watermelon dress 🔥
Gurl i’m so glad i found your channel because this is the fucking BEST aviation disaster investigation/breakdown channel ever! Periodt! Your channel just has so much more character, it has reoccurring jokes, it has humor in general and it also has personal opinions, which are always appreciated! And all this while maintaining the most accuracy possible too! Loved the vid btw ❤
I'm Brazilian and I would like to suggest for a future video, a tragic episode that occurred in 1960, when there was a collision between a DC3 from Real Linhas Aéreas, a Brazilian airline, and a DC6 from the American Navy over Rio de Janeiro. This fact occurred during President Eisenhower's visit to Brazil and generated a lot of divergence between the Brazilian and American reports. I believe it is a completely forgotten accident in the United States and it would be a very interesting video for the American public. Congratulations to the channel, the best of its kind.
Wow I've never heard of that accident sounds like it would make a very interesting video. I assume info on it will be hard to find as a military plane was involved and I imagine they don't want many people knowing about their mistakes.Still would be very interesting to learn about.
@@laurenm-w3634This incident occurred on February 25, 1960 and there was never a definitive report about it. Therefore, it must be really difficult to find details about him, perhaps due to the divergence between the Brazilian and American investigations. Despite being an American Navy plane, it was not on a proper military mission, as it was transporting Navy musicians for a performance that would be made for the presidents of Brazil and the United States. There is a video about it, but in Portuguese, I don't know if it has subtitles in English, I don't think so. But it would be interesting to have a video about this event on an American channel, without a doubt.
I think you can go on the video and submit subtitles in different languages. If you speak Portuguese I would really appreciate subtitles so I could watch that video as it sounds interesting
@@pandamandimax The video is not mine, it's from a Brazilian channel called "Aviões e Músicas", in English 'planes and music'. The link to this video is czcams.com/video/LYHNiVVeJAg/video.htmlsi=xKex3-JlX8irAEnr. I hope you can watch it with English subtitles. This channel is very good, but it is restricted to the Brazilian audience because of the Portuguese language.
Damn Chloe that was a long one. Also, back in 2018 us Indonesians thought 'Oh shit. Not again, not another major embarrassment in Indonesian aviation'. But after ET302 and the unveiling of Boeing's callousness and cataclysmic deliberate ignorance of the safety issues, me and my friends as aerospace engineering were like 'Holy fuck for once Lion Air was not fully in the blame, Boeing what the fuck why are you now becoming McDonnell Douglas?!!'
why lie for? aerospace engineer yet instead of "my friends & i" u spewed out the typical highschool dropout level of broken english: "me & my friends"? grammar?
Hi Chloe,I hope you're well,that was a great informative video,I really hope that's it,and no more surprises,it reminds me when I was a kid,all i kept hearing about was DC-10 disaster's,it never really fully recovered from those disaster's,despite been given the green light to fly again. R.I.P. to all those who lost their lives in these disasters,thanks again Chloe for such an informative video. Maybe sometime could you make a video on the DC-10 story?
@@PsidawgThey said they were Indonesian. It's perfectly reasonable for someone speaking English as a second (or third, or fourth,..) to make a mistake many native speakers make. Also, you can be an engineer with bad grammar.
As a former aerospace engineer at BAE Systems, I would describe the idea of having the MCAS system activate on the basis of one AoA sensor as bloody ridiculous.
As an industrial mechanic who works on absolutely nothing critical, why on Earth would you ever have a single point of failure like that? It boggles the mind.
@@Skyhawk1998As a non-engineer , nor a mechanic, no qualifications in anything even tangentially related to Aeroplanes , this makes no sense to me neither. lol
I find the frankenstein job of placing excessively large engines more towards the front of the wings of older planes and bandaiding this now unstable plane with software as egregiously stupid - I have no engineering background and you do not need one to see how that can be immensely problematic.
If the news where delivered with only a quarter of the quality and dedication displayed in this documentary, people wouldn't be so misinformed. You knocked it off the park!!!
Your use of the black and white video of you saying something 35 minutes ago just floored me. I am still chuckling even thinking about it. Bravo !! Making something serious have levity breaks is pretty cool and brilliant
I love the new format Chloe, watched whole thing being invested. I can definitely see a step up with the editing, humor and pacing. I also liked you had more screen time! Awesome episode. Until this point I liked Green Dot and Mentour a bit better but with every new video of yours, especially newer ones I tend to lean towards your channel more. Really great job Chloe! ❤
PS as far as green dot mayday, etc. I have caught some episodes so to speak. If it looks interesting. But every time I see a new video from you or an old one for that matter, I watch!
When I watch Mentour or any of the channels that show repackaged Mayday episodes I feel like I'm in a car dealership surrounded by commissioned sales people trying to push add-ons on me (in some industries that's called tip-begging), and then it takes forever before YT gives me recommended videos from other channels again. I gave up on Mentour maybe a year ago. I just got tired of the constant sales pitch and clickbait thumbnails. That tells me the channel is more about making money than providing content. It's not hard to tell when someone is playing to the almighty YT algorithm more than their audience.
Yeah these videos from Chloe are getting better better each new episode, I also watch mentor and green dot , but recently found Speed tape films , ( cockpit casual ) highly recommend taking a look if you haven’t seen .
I may just be weird but i find your voice so calming, always put your longer vids on to sleep but they are also really interesting for a novice aviation geek like me
I’m so glad I found your channel towards the end of 2023. I’m that person who has flown a fair bit and yet binge watches air disaster content - usually at 2am. I also went to high school (secondary school) and did theatre with one of the victims of Ethiopian Airlines flight 302. She was ridiculously smart, graduated high school young and came from a family who loved to travel. She was also knew what she wanted her career path to be in her mid-teens - something public health related. I still come across photos from the play we were in together and every time it takes a minute to remember that she isn’t somewhere in Africa making the world a better place.
This is the first one of your videos I’ve actually watched, rather than listened to. I love how expressive you are. Do you always ‘present’ the video like this? I think it’s the first time I’ve actually seen you! 😂
I had family who was one of the engineers on the original 737 and even when he passed away in the early 90’s he was surprised they were still using the same similar plane design. I was told that he loved working for Boeing at the time b/c they put safety first (most of the time idk the inner workings lol). It is truly awful that the McDonnell Douglas merger truly had the worst people become the heads of Boeing and took away the voices of the Engineers and people who were building the planes. This is the DC-10 all over again.
Hell, it might be worse than the DC-10 if it isn't already (the MCAS killed more people than the infamous cargo doors) if it continues to head this way and more shady deals surface. Honestly, this might all be heading towards the level of the Lockheed Starfighter/bribery scandal.
The fact that you had to memorize this really shows how much work you did on this video. I absolutely LOVED this. Your thorough explanation about the different versions of the planes, the info about Boeing's history, and the details about why / how the plug blew out were genuinely excellent. I loved the conclusion in particular-- in some of your other videos you'd mentioned that a lot of pilots have enjoyed flying the 747s, which perplexed me compared to the crazy stuff going on in the news these days. So clarifying between the public's perception vs what pilots think (with all their skill and experience) was a great point I hadn't considered too much in the past. I mean, they're the ones flying the thing, which means they need to be comfortable with it to keep the passengers safe. Anyway, S tier video!
Ok, there's nothing wrong with the MAX per se, but it's built by Boeing, a company that can't be trusted to bolt in a door plug because of their systemic incompetence. If the MAX is built properly, great! But it's a Boeing, so we can't take that as a given. They've demonstrated that quite clearly to us.
Yay. We get to see more of you. You're looking awesome sweetie. Fascinating stuff as always but I was quite distracted by your sparkly top. Thank you for explaining technical plane stuff in a way that makes sense
Alaska has had a VERY BAD 2024 so far. Not only this situation. But recently they had a cargo door that was cracked open. And speaking if cracked... but just a few days ago, a interior pilot windshield of an Alaska 737 cracked.
Your power of analysis is rather extraordinary. What you are accomplishing is so embedded in the public interest that it is impossible to not become necessarily addicted to your presentations.
$70 for checked baggage? That’s rough” had me cracking up. I love your videos so much. Demonstrations and all. The information, the jokes; you need your own TV show.
The amount of quality improvements since you’ve started AND all of the details you’ve put is nothing short of amazing. Great video as always Chloe, probably your best one yet.
@@PyroBun_2844 so true; it’s great to see a channel grow and mature in front of your eyes. In this case I haven’t been there since the beginning, but I’ve still seen it over the past months- not to mention all the comments I’ve seen about that. And I have seen it happen on other channels. It’s awesome when it’s well deserved like in this case! ❤
Outstanding job, Chloe. You have really honed in your craft over the years. I am a flight attendant for United Airlines and I tell my crews about your channel and they look at me funny..."You watch a channel about airline disasters...do you realize given our profession how odd that is?" LOL. Odd or not, I look forward to every video. Drew
I mean, pilots are generally required to know what caused prior accidents for the planes they’re certified on. Plus, it is the history of your industry. Macabre maybe, but I wouldn’t say it’s odd. At the same time, I can understand why someone would go the other way and not want to know anything about accidents.
@@piedpiper1172 I am more intrigued by the accident investigation than the event. Incredible how they can find the cause of an accident when most would see it as impossible. We call it tombstone technology unfortunately.
Boeing is really making me reconsider anything with "Made in United States" on it. Also yeah, the pilots feel it is safe, but the pilots didn't know they had 4 bolts missing for 100+ flights. I'm more concerned with what the people building the planes say about the build quality, as they're the actual ones that see it.
On many products, the only thing "made in the USA" is the tag that says so. You have to buy from companies that trace and are completely transparent with their supply chains.
I don’t think your going to like what the people building the plane have to say about their quality 😂 tho I’m guessing you won’t hear many bad things said about Boeing from employees as those who speak out tend to change their mind about maintaining a pulse.😅
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. Yes I know. I do my best to prioritize my spending to local (European) manufacturers either way, although, with some things, that's not really possible.
I live in the town building the 787, which had its manufacturing hiccups as it struggled to push technology in so many ways, but it's now a pretty solid aircraft. Even with the 787 being a notably good aircraft I still hear stories from the many locals building it that suggest eventual issues are inevitable. I personally really wish Boeing the greatest successes, as the health of that company is a serious consideration in the health of my city. However, I'm not particularly optimistic about Boeing's future.
Loved your video and your cameo on it. Great format, and you're incredible. You're so articulate, easy to listen to, and knowledgeable. Keep up the great work!!
Chloe I have to say I busted out laughing when you said "it's up to me, a girl with pink hair and pronouns to set the record straight" because at the moment I, too, am a person with pink hair and pronouns and you bet your ass we gotta set the record straight about everything!
The comparison with the DC-10 is very apt. Both planes produced under McDonnell-Douglas execs cutting corners for money with a nasty reputation that turned out to not be that big a deal once the main issues got fixed, but still had everyone hyperfixated on it. Though, the Max hasn't had an engine fall off, or an engine blow up and destroy the flight controls, or almost crash in mid-air with a jumbo, or excrete a minor panel that didn't actually do anything to the plane but happened to blow up the next plane on takeoff sequence that day, which just so happened to be *Concorde*... Man, the DC-10 was cursed.
I think the reason the stigma for both planes remains is due to the investigation exposing the inner working of decision making at the highest levels. You start to wonder what other half-baked systems are in the plane that waiting to go sideways under the right conditions.
Oh okay, another take on the 737 controversy, I thought. But oh my God this is so much more. I've watched TV productions, documentaries, in depth coverage from channels like Wendover and Cold fusion and pilots' channels but I have to say Chloe, you always bring a refreshing angle. Love watching your videos! Love watching your content asap and love going back to it on those long walks to St James park.
@@AllTimeAestheticyeah I was waiting for proper aviation channels to join this. The non aviation channels never go into the right amount of depth. Then again I work in aviation so this is literally my passion
The furthest thing from our minds when we make travel arrangements is whether our pilot is properly trained. Or that the airliner we're flying on isn't safe? Safety was once a priority! That priority no longer exists as we are all just collateral damage! Excellent video as always, Chloe!
United wants to hire 5000 new pilots by 2030 and 50% of them will not be the most qualified for the job but will be women and people of color. I’m all for diversity but I think the public will draw the line on affirmative action when their pilots who have their lives in their hands were not hired because they were the most qualified but they were hired because their gender and skin color.
Chloe, you are doing incredible. Apart from the in-depth, well-structured documentary style video, I can really see your confidence growing, and your sense of humour lightens the mood every now and again in this very serious topic. You as a presenter on the screen gives the report a whole new dynamic compared to just still photos and video footage. You can be very proud of your work!
This is high quality content and by far the best documentary about the 73M accidents! I really enjoyed watching. Thank you Chloe for all the work you put in this 🙂👍
I have to say, this is the most comprehensive analysis of the whole MAX issue I have seen anywhere. The work you put into this video (and all your videos in general) is amazing! After only a few views of your videos, you've become one of my top favorite channels. Thank you so much!!
Thanks, Chloe! Fabulous video. I learnt so much. I love how you argue for including nuance in analyses and discussions 💜 (And I don't usually comment on anyone's appearance, but you look great!)
I think it's ok to comment on Chloe's appearance, as long as we're nice, because she's spending so much more time on camera and making the effort to look flamboyantly fabulous for us... almost as if she wants us to notice her. 😉 I think it's just a matter of showing appreciation.
And here I was wondering when she’d get to the part where whistle blowers keep offing themselves the night before testifying. Guess this came out before that.
Wow, Chloe, you really outdid yourself with this one. In-depth, research-based, inuitive and occasionally sarcastic, this mini-film is a piece of aviation-loving art. Bravo!
29:47 I didn't know you were also into EGL fashion 😊 Where did you get your dark green OP from? It's nice knowing that I'm not the only one who likes aviation and Harajuku fashion at the same time ☺️
Chloe! Fanfriggentastic video. That little touch of sarcasm (like when talking about which AOA sensor was faulty, GEEEE I WONDER WHICH ONE) is absolute gold, please keep that up in future videos. This video is going to go far, wait and see.
This is my first time watching this channel. I was immediately hooked by that soothing voice of yours, but then you appeared on screen and, pardon me for being so shallow, I was stunned by how gorgeous you are. The content is, of course, top notch as well. Thank you, Chloe, for all the work you put into this video. You've instantly become one of my favorite content creators ❤
Good video but one correction. Concorde was the first commercial airliner to be fly-by-wire. Fly-by-wire flight controls, engine controls, intake and exhaust controls. Waaay back in the 1960s.
you did forget one interesting thing - the cockpit door blew open during the depressurisation, and it wasn’t in the plane’s manual at all. on other plane models, the whole door doesn’t blow open, instead having slats that fail more safely. the pilots had trouble communicating and had a checklist sucked out of the cabin if i recall correctly on the alaska flight
Never have I expected that a breadtube essay-style video about the MAX will ever exist, so it is indeed a pleasant surprise to see you making one. This feature-length of a documentary has thoroughly informed me on a topic that me, as an aviation enthusiast, has already known for years at this point, in a way that is even more entertaining than the rest of the technical explanations people like Mentour Pilot and blancolirio have presented to us. Thanks for the monumental work, Chloe!
I do not understand how ANY software that can OVERRIDE THE PILOT is considered not worth even putting in the manual, much less advising the pilots. To me, that is absolutely mind boggling. Also: I'm glad to see you on camera more often! Its nice to put a face to the voice. 😃
It didn't override the pilots lionair crew had the plane undercontrol for most of the flight . Ethiopian crew were mcas trained and still lost the aircraft.
@@michael-y8c At the time of the crash, MCAS was trimming the plane and pushing the nose down, regardless of pilot input. How is that not overriding the pilots? Regardless of the specifics in the crash, I was also referring to the fact that Boeing decided that MCAS did not need to be mentioned to the pilots and did not need to be in the manual. If it removes control from the pilot, changes how the plane is flying, and especially without any kind of notification that it is activating (because it doesn't seem like it had any kind of obvious visual or aural warning), then pilots NEED to be warned about it, and they were not.
@sijplays918 Lionair flew that same plane for 3 weeks even after an incorrect repair, they put the aircraft back into revenue serivce knowing it had aoa problems . What good would it have been if mcas was in the manufacturer manual when they couldn't even follow standard operating procedures The problem with most of these videos is that they fail to mention the aircraft was lost due to control flight into terrain not from mcas. Mcas was corrected 28 times by the captain, trimming the plane with the trim tab. What mcas took out the captain put back in . For 11 minutes and 40 seconds, they had the plane under control. No take over no mayham no confusion although going very fast due to leaving engines to take off power another fault by the crew. If the problem was so bad, why the hell would you fly to a holding patten? Get that thing back on the ground. Lionair don't pay their pilots for not completing the flight. I guess the facts don't make a sexy story. Ethiopian crew were trained for mcas and still lost the aircraft. Also leaving engines to full power and failed standard operation procedures.
@@michael-y8c The trim being reset is still taking over from the pilot. It is still *taking over a function of the aircraft that the pilot expects to be within his control*. This would be like if your car suddenly starts veering to the left. Yeah sure, you can correct every time it does it, but it's still hardly an ideal way to drive the car, and if it was because of a system within said car, you'd probably be pretty pissed off if no one warned you about it. And the captain was not able to totally correct what the trim was doing - it eventually became too much to overcome because the trim angle had been set so far that even with the captain pulling up fully, it just could not cancel out the trim angle that MCAS had set it to. Also, adding it back to the manual would have given the pilots information that could have saved their lives. Another incident with MCAS was averted when the pilots turned off the automatic trim, which they new to do *because it had been in the manual,* but was removed. And CFIT is an *end result,* not a diagnosis. It is CFIT *due* to things like interference from MCAS and constantly having to correct it and try and figure out what is happening with your aircraft causing lack of situational awareness. Saying it was just due to CFIT is a bit like saying, "They died because their car ran into that wall." Technically true, but what CAUSED them to run into that wall? Were the roads slippery? Did their brakes fail? Did their power steering lock up and only allow them to go one direction?
@sijplays918 Ethiopian crew knew about mcas did it save them ??? Cowboys that's all they were. Captain of lionair had enough control to bring the aircraft back to the airport not to a bloody holding patten. They forgot memory items stand operation procedures, putting mcas in the manual would have made no difference at all. Aircraft was lost when control was given to the first officer to till then captain had it undercontrol only problem is they left engine's to take off so did Ethiopian crew. Bloody cowboys they should have never been anyway near a cockpit. You are talking about an airline that has a history of crashing airplane an airline who not once but twice tries to and on a runway that was underconstruction clowns.
My father was a machinist for Boeing for 34 years. He helped make many, many of the early Boeing jets. He was proud to work there and made a good product. Boeing merged with McDonnell-Douglas after he retired and he saw the writing on the wall. He predicted big problems for the "Lazy B," as he called the company.
What are some of the problems that your father predicted? I'm thinking maybe the company now hires based on certain quotas, instead of actual qualifications.
I like your voice, dear. It has a pleasing pitch, easy to listen to, not nasal or shrill like many bc's. And thanks for not shouting.... another pet peeve of mine. Excellent work taking this puzzle apart.
Chloe! Really astounding job on this one, its a pleasure to have watched you grow your channel and your content overtime. You put a lot of heart and pride in your work, thank you for the education and the laughs. I used to work on com/nav systems on the KC-10 when i was in the usaf, so i have residual interest in aircrafts, and your videos about why these things happen are thorough and captivating. Keep on shining, youre awesome!
I'm always disappointed when the short videos from my favourite content makers are over 😩 but I can't even begin to imagine how much work goes into making a high quality, well researched documentary.
Extremely well written and carefully considered content. Interesting. Concise. Very "Chloe", which is a good thing! Overall, great style, personality and production. Long video but totally engrossing and educational for all. Amazing work!❤
Informative, well presented information, extremely entertaining, well written and narrated! What isn't to love about this channel and it's amazing creator Chloe! Well done! I now have several years of videos to go binge watch.
I was surprised to “see” the host after randomly being played this video when trying to sleep, but after 40 mins’ish in I had to piss and watched while I sat down I got surprised! * daaamn, i imagined a guy * (due to the relatively deep voice)
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No wonder you've been gove for over a month, you've made an entire movie! Thanks for keeping me entertained for 1 and a half hours Chloe!
I thank you for watching!
@@DisasterBreakdown I saw the word “movie,” in your pinned comment, and I thought maybe that was her channel members (well I’m subscribed, but I meant Patreon- which one of these days I hope to join) but until I saw this comment… and looked to see how long the video is… and saw that it was like probably double the longest one I’ve ever seen of yours, even after they doubled in time! That’s if I’m thinking of the right channel (there’s one other that covers the same topics generally speaking which I enjoy almost as much as yours so I might be confused about that. But I feel like they used to be like 12 or 13 minutes and then they doubled to more like a half hour.)
It’s worth the wait for us regular subscribed folk and I wish it was a happier topic, but a good thing to shed light on and more fully inform those of us who aren’t really in the field but have interest in it. At least since finding yours and a couple of other channels.
After watching some stuff about 911 around the anniversary That’s when CZcams started showing me everything planes. And now they just keep showing me because I keep watching. 😂
Wow! What a production!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you for such a lengthy and interesting movie!! The best ever😊😊😊😊😊
Haha yes
haha the nose being opened in ur pf makes the 747 look like its got a cheeky smile on its face
Always appreciate that you have full subtitles available with every new video, thanks Chloe!
I did them today actually, ahead of the video's release :)
@@DisasterBreakdownhonestly I really appreciate it, I’ve hearing issues in one side so I always use subtitles, it’s genuinely really amazing seeing that you have them ready for every video, bless you lass!
You are so right. As a reluctant member of the hearing-impaired community, I find that Chloe’s excellent videos are tops amongst the online material I’m able to fully appreciate. Thanks, Chloe!
@@DisasterBreakdown And yours are actually right! 😛 No "MacDonald Douglas."
For me it's that thick Geordie accent... (Kidding!) I actually have hearing loss too, and terrible tinnitus from a head injury. Good captions really help. I can only crank my TV so loud before the upstairs neighbors start stomping on the floor.
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Can't tell you how much i appreciate you, and the others with very high standards of accuracy. You keep us informed!
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I just subbed to all of them and listed them. Thanks for all the channelnames!
It’s the humour too e.g. (serious), (serious), (serious) then “$70 for checked baggage, that’s rough!” (just after 1:18:50)
Excellent video.Well produced and narrated.Extremely interesting,has to be said.Well done Chloe!
HOW HAVE I NOT HEARD OF YOU?!? Incredible content, so amazing- I just found you in a seconds to disaster playlist, and now I’m off to binge the rest of your content, sharing to everyone I know who loves learning!
The ghost of the 90s has now been haunting seattle for 30 years.
When the entire management at Boeing got swapped with mcdonnell douglas it started...
My first trip was on a maersk 737-300
Wait? Boeing got rid of its management and replaced them with McDonald Douglas? How does that work?
MD had horrible safety culture, when they were absorbed into Boeing, that carried over as MDs management was kept
@@alf513
They merged and McDonnell Douglas has majority. Boeing used to be run by experienced engineers most all of it in house. Now it’s been run by bean counters since the merger. That’s my understanding.
@@AndrewJones-cx6kl shouldn’t the managers of Boeing be the top of the pecking order, not McDonald Douglas?
In remembrance to those on Lion Air Flight JT610:
Captain Bhavve Suneja, 31
First Officer Harvino, 41
Flight Attendant Shintia Melina, 25
Flight Attendant Citra Novita Anggelia Putri
Flight Attendant Alfiyani Hidayatul Solikah, 19
Flight Attendant Fita Damayanti Simarmata, 22
Flight Attendant Mery Yulyanda, 23
Rang Adiprana
Vivian Hasna Afifa
Indra Bayu Aji, 39
Firmansyah Akbar, 42
Wahyu Alldila, 32
Resky Amalia
Resti Amelia, 27
Muhammad Ravi Andrian, 24
P. Anggrimulja
Dede Anggraini, 40
Liu Anto
Vicky Ardian
Arfiyandi
Reni Aryanti, 51
Riyan Aryandi
Chairul Aswan
Paul Ferdinand Ayorbaba, 43
Fauzan Azima, 25
Naqiya Azmi, 19
Berly Boen, 43
Adonia Magdiel Bongkal, 52
Matthew Bongkal, 13
Hari Budianto
Ary Budiastuti, 48
Ken Cannavaro
Liu Chandra
Fendi Christanto, 46
Ariska Cici
Dadang, 27
Nursi Damanik
Dia Damayanti
Daryanto, 43
Janu Daryoko, 60
Prato Dewanto
Inayah Fatwa Kurnia Dewi, 39
Jannatun Cintya Dewi, 24
Sui Di
Dolar, 37
Dony, 45
Dwinanto
Abdul Efendi, 50
Efendi
Janry Efriyanto Sianturi, 26
Sri Endang
Eryanto, 41
Xherdan Fachridzi, 4
Mohammad Fadillah
Deryl Fida Febrianto, 22
Filzaladi, 30
Fiona Ayu Zen S., 30
Trie Yudha Gautama, 31
Achmad Sukron Hadi, 30
Tri Haska Hafidzi, 31
Fifi Hajanto, 42
Ibnu Fajar Riyadi Hantoro, 33
Hardy, 31
Faiz Saleh Harharah, 44
Darwin Haryanto, 51
Harwinoko, 54
Chandra Hasan
Hasnawati, 57
Hedy, 36
Hendra, 39
Herju Herjuno
Dewi Herlina
Henny Heuw
Ambo Malibone, 36
A. Innajatullah
Dicky Jatnika
Ervin Jayanti
Muhammad Jufri
Tami Julian, 25
Juma Jumalih
H.K. Junaidi
Dodi Junaidi, 40
Vera Junita, 22
Karmin, 68
Y. Kartikawati
Kasan, 68
Tesa Kausar, 37
Abdul Khaer
Sui Khiun, 57
Khotijah, 26
Chandra Kirana, 29
Ariawan Komardy, 37
Igan Kurnia
Mariya Kusum
Liany
Linda, 49
Luhba Toruan
Mahheru
Andrea Manfredi, 26
Martono, 35
Sekar Maulana, 45
Mito, 37
Moejiono
Monni, 41
Muhammad Syafi’i, 45
Akma Mugnish
Murdiman, 46
Murita
Muhammad Nasir, 29
Njat Ngo, 68
Nie
Zulva Puspita Ningrum, 39
Noe Grohantoro
Noorviantoro
Agil Nugroho
Hesti Nuraini, 45
Joyo Nuroso, 50
Muhammad Lutfi Nurramdhani, 24
Sudibyo Onggo Wardoyo, 40
Yoga Perdana, 33
Chris Prabowo
Riwan Pranata
Rio Nanda Pratama, 26
Junior Priadi, 32
Ruslian Purba
Puspita Eka Putri, 24
Fatikah Putty
Rabagus Noerwito Desi Putra, 26
Shandy Johan Ramadhan, 27
Ruma Ramadhan
Muchta Rasyid
Ema Ratnapuri, 23
Rebiyanti
Nur Rezkianti
Rijalmahdi
Muhammad Riyadi
Imam Riyanto, 44
Akhim Rokhmana
Romhanir Pandi Sagala, 23
Sahabudin, 40
Martua Sahata
Ubaidillah Salabi, 55
Nikky Bagus Santoso, 35
Yunit Sapitri
Mawar Sariati, 39
Ase Saripudin
Hizkia Jorry Saroinsong, 23
Sastiarta, 28
Petrous Rudolf Sayers, 58
Nata Setiawan
Cosa Rianda Sabab, 39
Shella, 25
Sian
Man Sihombing
Yul Silvianti
Nurul Dyah Ayu Sitharesmi, 54
Nia R.S. Soegiyono, 39
Rizal Sputra
Mack Stanley, 31
Eka M. Suganda, 49
Rank Sukandar
Idha Susanti
Robert Susanto, 56
Wahyu Susilo, 31
Eko Sutanto
Eling Sutikno, 59
Sya Syahrudin
Hendra Tanjaya
Tan Toni, 60
Trainingsih
Maria Ulfah, 36
Bambang Usman
Verian Utama, 31
Michelle Vergina Bongkal, 21
Wanto
Wendy, 29
Radhika Widjaya, 4
Rafezha Widjaya, 1
Krisma Wijaya
Daniel Suharja Wijaya, 30
Andr Wiranofa
Wita Seriani
R.R. Savitri Wulurastuti, 42
Nicko Yogha
Reo Yumitro
Yuniarsi
Yunita, 32
Kyara Aurine Daniedra, 1
As well as to Syachrul Anto, 48, a diver who died during recovery operations. (Many sources had slightly varying ages for the passengers, shifting around a year or so. Some of them might not be 100% age-wise. I also have been unable to find the ages for a lot of the passengers.)
There was someone who was a year old? May they rest in peace and the others too.
there were 1 year olds on the plane.. :((
Thank you for not letting them stay lost.
I’m not sure if flight 302’s list was posted; I’ve had problems with CZcams comments getting filtered before. If not, the comment is somewhere in the comment section.*
@@lostvictims9769thank you for your amazing work! ❤
This documentary puts Netflix's one to utter shame. Amazing content!
As an ex Commercial Pilot I just want to say you are so articulate and don't miss a thing. I hope you are training Cadet Pilots plus Service Crews.
This is not a youtube video. This is a high class, educational documentary. Thanks Chloe
I second this
The weird thing is I've flown on the MAX on Alaska and Southwest, but also understand the severity of the issue not just with the planes but Boeing as a whole now. The entire company needs a shakeup from the top to middle. I can't blame the workers, they're caught in a position they didn't want to be in.
I have it on, shall we say, extremely good authority that many MANY Boeing maintenance workers were either laid off or quit in the past few years, some due to COVID and some probably just general cost cutting. I'm sure this is just a microcosm of that shitshow. The workers being trained now are up against institutional hurdles that I empathize with. :/
@@nyanbinary1717 you're not wrong. Before I stopped driving trucks I delivered to some of the Boeing facilities and it went from you know everyone you dealt with to a revolving door each week of people "not working out" and leaving. I got the vibe the ones who cared were ran out and the ones who just wanted a check remained. Hope they could turn it around but don't see it under the regime they have or the profits over people mentality that's rampant
If Boeing really lost or got rid of the employees who were trying to sound the alarm, that would be the biggest mistake I've ever heard a company making. I remember seeing a Boeing whistle blower talking about debris being left inside aircraft like aluminum drilling chips, tools, rivets, screws, nuts, washers, etc which bundles of wires would be in contact with buried deep within the planes. Things that normally aren't on a maintenance check list after a plane is delivered. I think we're not done with Boeing problems. I believe things left inside aircraft will start to cause problems with Boeing aircraft in the next 10 years as these wiring harnesses start to wear through at the points where they touch foreign objects deep within the aircraft. They're going to lose a few jets because of debris. And they lost a free great employees who complained about this issue. Oh Boeing, chasing profit destroyed you, very much destroyed you. What a shame. The thousands of employees who always did the right thing before must be so upset with the employees who did this. The managers or high up or whatever, probably not the low man on the totem pole.
@@nyanbinary1717I’m sorry this is totally off topic, but your username is fucking incredible. 😍
Are you a pilot?
"So I guess it's up to me: A strange girl on the Internet with pink hair and pronouns to set the record straight!" My sides went into orbit with that line. 🤣
Me too. And the quote build by clowns led by monkeys
I thought she looked more ginger than pink, but that might be my monitor settings.
Is she a man? sorry that voice got me confused
@@michellejirak9945 It probably is your monitor settings because she definitely has pink hair on my displays. If you're also using something like f.lux as well to redshift your displays at night, that might also be something to check.
Girl where?
My masochistic ass is terrified of flying and addicted to videos about plane crashes. You definitely have the best voice, it’s so soothing.
Omggggg😅 me too!!!!! I'm deathly terrified of flying in airplanes, but I'm obsessed with aviation videos and true crime videos. I'm so glad I'm not a weirdo ! There are others like me!!!!😊
I watch a whole bunch of airplane crash videos before I take a flight. I've stopped doing that honestly 😂
You either land safely or will play a part in the further improvement of flight safety. You can only win, sorta
@@joseCalderon1976 omg!😱now that, i couldn't do!!!! no way. i would hightail it outta the airport never to be seen again. they could keep my money, no need for a refund.
"I don't have a printer, so I had to memorise all of my lines" - Chloe... you are my hero XD
You don't need a printer. Use a teleprompter!
@@FameyFamous A tablet or laptop
What a blatant lie lol
that's dedication :) quality content Chloe
I am 100% behind "doing things the hard way to avoid interacting with a printer" tho, dastardly machines powered by spite, hate the things lmao
Can we all just appreciate the fact that the departures list actually updates
I am so thrilled that someone has noticed that : )
@@DisasterBreakdownI was staring at it for a while trying to figure out if there was a hidden message in the choice of destinations, but if there is, it's hidden too well for me
I noticed that!! Subtle, yet still noticeable. Great touch from a great channel.
This story always freaked me out. Being a software engineer, this reminds me of all the times I did something stupid that caused some error that was easy to predict and prevent. Except in this case, people died. Don't worry, I'm never going to design flight control software.
You lined up the entire 737 MAX saga in perfect detail and simplified it for everyone to understand and digest- i’ve seen your videos a couple of times before, but you earned my full support of this channel from me! 😊
One thing I like about your videos is that they are sufficiently clear and detailed that I can listen to them and comprehend them without actually having to look at the screen. I "watch" while working on my stained glass so my eyes are on my solder joints most of the time.
What sort of designs do you make? And I agree, I'm more into painting myself but her content is great for background play!
@@WhiteWolf-lm7gj Thank you for asking. I'm mostly working on suncatchers for craft fair sales right now. Doing a series of spring flowers and some hens and roosters. I've also done a couple pet portraits for family members. What do you paint?
@@mbvoelker8448 Oh, that's awesome! I'm working on a blue jay painting right now, and I've done a flower vase as a wedding gift in the past, but I also do some more abstract stylized designs. I'm in college, so I'm planning to take painting classes when my schedule allows!
@@WhiteWolf-lm7gj Cool! Good luck with that.
I'm trying to turn stained glass into a retirement job.
Yeah but they're a little TOO detailed, TOO OVERLOADED with information.... you're left sitting and fidgeting and saying "oh just get on with the basic narrative, I haven't got all day!!...."
It's just heartbreaking. Boeing used to he a shining example of American ingenuity and innovation. A sad sad situation of relentless pursuit of profit from a now underdog in competition, combined with lax or outright corrupt government oversight resulted in the loss of hundreds of lives AND a sterling reputation.
The whistleblower, before he "committed suicide", revealed that Boeing no longer have people with engineering degrees running the company. It's now a bunch of execs who have no clue how a modern airplane even works.
They don't pay much either
@@JK360noscope they do, but only for the C-suit.
I think they represent the state of the US work and business culture to perfection (as seen from an European pov)
I usually just listen to your episodes while I am working, so no visual. Have you always made an appearance? Well, seeing you in full blown presenter/narrator mode I'm surprised and delighted. You are a great video presence; entertaining, amusing, geeky, and with good on-screen confidence. Makes your episodes even better ❤
The balance you strike between explaining thorough technical details and relatable, informative reporting is stunning. I feel like you have curated your videos perfectly for your audience - passionate aviation fans but not necessarily experts/professionals, though I'm sure they would be/are impressed with your content! One of my favourite aviation channels!
Chloe I'd like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for us such high quality content with subtitles! As someone with ADHD I cant watch anything without subtitles.
I always try to have subtitles in all my videos going forward. CZcams makes it very easy for creators who do scripted content. Everyone should add subtitles :)
I wish plainly difficult had subtitles on every video. He's the only one of my disaster channel quadfecta that doesn't do them (the others being Fascinating Horror, Brick Immortar, and of course Chloe)
@@patientallison I know ... John should try to have subtitles on his videos more often .
I am about to be tested for ADHD I had no idea that me having to have subtitles on was a symptom! So interesting!
@@CherrrrBear it isn't necessarily, but ADHD is often comorbid with auditory processing disorder. Which is basically when your ears work perfectly but your brain's ability to interpret other people's mouth sounds into words with meanings doesn't work
my mum actually knew the family of one of the passengers who passed away on the Ethiopian Airlines flight. And i just wanted to say, that in his memory, his family has raised thousands of dollars in donations to create a fund that finically supports indigenous students and to restore an estuary in his hometown. :)
You should name that fund!
That is a wonderful thing!
:)
You sound so much more confident! I'm a sort of casual subscriber so this is my first time seeing you. Looks like you're doing great, and it shows :) also always love stuff about the hot mess that is the 737 max so looking forward to the rest of the video!
(p.s. from a brother to a sister, I wish you luck and happiness as you grow more into yourself 💗)
had to just pause the the video for a second to tell you i LOVE how high quality your content is!! Each new episode i leave more and more pleased at how much effort you put into this content. I deeply appreciate seeing the little reference number footnotes (which i really noticed around 35:23) so I can go look at your references and sources to get more info. I also LOVE seeing you in these gorgeous outfits and amazing makeup with all the figurines and pictures, I just see the heart and passion in this and the growing skills and talent and investment. Thank you for making these videos for us, I enjoy them so so much!
Not only is this very well done and explained in a comprehensive way even a non-aviation person can understand, it's very obvious that you feel much better in your skin. You radiate joy and confidence!
Thank you!
Agreed. Been watching for a while and your presentation is just getting better each video. Love your work, thank you! PS hair is stunning❤
@@kckc4955 Hair, yes, but how about all those dresses? The watermelon one is my fave, but that green one just before it deserves a wolf-whistle too. 🙂
@@beenaplumber8379 right? I liked the first one too and loved this format of video. I learn so much and love her comments and fun personality showing through.
@@beenaplumber8379 Nah I'm sorry the peachy sparkling sequin dress in this video is definitely the prettiest. Suits her so well!
We go all the way to #1 Trending with this one 🗣️🗣️
yeah right, in my dreams 😂
@@DisasterBreakdowni hope your dreams come true! i have a lot of followers on bluesky and they take my recommendations on good videos/media in general seriously (huge change for me lol, finally a social media service that appreciates my weird girl sense of humour) so i hope that even if you don’t make it to trending, that you get a lot of views and new subscribers :)
since ive been made to retire at 52 through injury and now disability Chloe your videos and youtube as a whole have really really helped me get out of a rut, ive since turned my shed into a workshop where i do woodcarvings and bushcraft knives for friends, so thank you Chloe you help make my day constructive
Comprehensive is a perfect description! New subscriber here. I loved the amount of detail especially the photos from the preliminary NTSB report. Definitely one of my new favourite aviation channels. I loved the long format by the way! But shorter videos are good too. Big bonus was your humour! Great video!
Also the watermelon dress 🔥
Gurl i’m so glad i found your channel because this is the fucking BEST aviation disaster investigation/breakdown channel ever! Periodt! Your channel just has so much more character, it has reoccurring jokes, it has humor in general and it also has personal opinions, which are always appreciated! And all this while maintaining the most accuracy possible too! Loved the vid btw ❤
Thank you so much for your kind words, I am thrilled you like it : )
I concur!!
I had no idea you were trans - subbing to your channel ♥️
Whoa! Well that is a horse of a different colour.
@@genebohannon8820 what in the… yo…
I'm Brazilian and I would like to suggest for a future video, a tragic episode that occurred in 1960, when there was a collision between a DC3 from Real Linhas Aéreas, a Brazilian airline, and a DC6 from the American Navy over Rio de Janeiro. This fact occurred during President Eisenhower's visit to Brazil and generated a lot of divergence between the Brazilian and American reports. I believe it is a completely forgotten accident in the United States and it would be a very interesting video for the American public. Congratulations to the channel, the best of its kind.
Wow I've never heard of that accident sounds like it would make a very interesting video. I assume info on it will be hard to find as a military plane was involved and I imagine they don't want many people knowing about their mistakes.Still would be very interesting to learn about.
@@laurenm-w3634This incident occurred on February 25, 1960 and there was never a definitive report about it. Therefore, it must be really difficult to find details about him, perhaps due to the divergence between the Brazilian and American investigations. Despite being an American Navy plane, it was not on a proper military mission, as it was transporting Navy musicians for a performance that would be made for the presidents of Brazil and the United States. There is a video about it, but in Portuguese, I don't know if it has subtitles in English, I don't think so. But it would be interesting to have a video about this event on an American channel, without a doubt.
I think you can go on the video and submit subtitles in different languages. If you speak Portuguese I would really appreciate subtitles so I could watch that video as it sounds interesting
@@pandamandimax The video is not mine, it's from a Brazilian channel called "Aviões e Músicas", in English 'planes and music'. The link to this video is czcams.com/video/LYHNiVVeJAg/video.htmlsi=xKex3-JlX8irAEnr. I hope you can watch it with English subtitles. This channel is very good, but it is restricted to the Brazilian audience because of the Portuguese language.
I don’t understand how Boeing is still in business. 20 billion dollars would have definitely been enough to develop an entirely new aircraft.
I loved the way you just suddenly stop to mention the fact that it's raining. We are so obsessed with weather 🌧️😅
Damn Chloe that was a long one.
Also, back in 2018 us Indonesians thought 'Oh shit. Not again, not another major embarrassment in Indonesian aviation'. But after ET302 and the unveiling of Boeing's callousness and cataclysmic deliberate ignorance of the safety issues, me and my friends as aerospace engineering were like 'Holy fuck for once Lion Air was not fully in the blame, Boeing what the fuck why are you now becoming McDonnell Douglas?!!'
McD was a shareholder company, which is why they went bankrupt. And now they are repeating the failure with Boeing.
why lie for? aerospace engineer yet instead of "my friends & i" u spewed out the typical highschool dropout level of broken english: "me & my friends"? grammar?
I’m afraid more problems are on the way!!
Hi Chloe,I hope you're well,that was a great informative video,I really hope that's it,and no more surprises,it reminds me when I was a kid,all i kept hearing about was DC-10 disaster's,it never really fully recovered from those disaster's,despite been given the green light to fly again.
R.I.P. to all those who lost their lives in these disasters,thanks again Chloe for such an informative video.
Maybe sometime could you make a video on the DC-10 story?
@@PsidawgThey said they were Indonesian. It's perfectly reasonable for someone speaking English as a second (or third, or fourth,..) to make a mistake many native speakers make. Also, you can be an engineer with bad grammar.
As a former aerospace engineer at BAE Systems, I would describe the idea of having the MCAS system activate on the basis of one AoA sensor as bloody ridiculous.
As an industrial mechanic who works on absolutely nothing critical, why on Earth would you ever have a single point of failure like that? It boggles the mind.
@@Skyhawk1998As a non-engineer , nor a mechanic, no qualifications in anything even tangentially related to Aeroplanes , this makes no sense to me neither. lol
As a red nosed professional clown with giant floppy shoes, I take it as an insult to hear the management at Boeing was called a bunch of clowns.
@@Skyhawk1998 money, it's all about the Benjamins
I find the frankenstein job of placing excessively large engines more towards the front of the wings of older planes and bandaiding this now unstable plane with software as egregiously stupid - I have no engineering background and you do not need one to see how that can be immensely problematic.
Im crying at the Fokker dig 😂 Well done!! The way you structure your information is just so holistic and thorough, I adored it!
If the news where delivered with only a quarter of the quality and dedication displayed in this documentary, people wouldn't be so misinformed. You knocked it off the park!!!
When talking about Boeing:
“I am very happy and NOT suicidal”
i had no idea this channel was the product of a trans girl with a special interest, but in retrospect, i shouldn’t have been surprised. oh, also, slay
Same
Your use of the black and white video of you saying something 35 minutes ago just floored me. I am still chuckling even thinking about it. Bravo !! Making something serious have levity breaks is pretty cool and brilliant
I love the new format Chloe, watched whole thing being invested. I can definitely see a step up with the editing, humor and pacing. I also liked you had more screen time! Awesome episode. Until this point I liked Green Dot and Mentour a bit better but with every new video of yours, especially newer ones I tend to lean towards your channel more. Really great job Chloe! ❤
WOW! Thank you so much!!!!
@@DisasterBreakdown I watch mentour too but you’re number one and he’s an excellent number two in my list. You’re both right up there.
PS as far as green dot mayday, etc. I have caught some episodes so to speak. If it looks interesting. But every time I see a new video from you or an old one for that matter, I watch!
When I watch Mentour or any of the channels that show repackaged Mayday episodes I feel like I'm in a car dealership surrounded by commissioned sales people trying to push add-ons on me (in some industries that's called tip-begging), and then it takes forever before YT gives me recommended videos from other channels again. I gave up on Mentour maybe a year ago. I just got tired of the constant sales pitch and clickbait thumbnails. That tells me the channel is more about making money than providing content. It's not hard to tell when someone is playing to the almighty YT algorithm more than their audience.
Yeah these videos from Chloe are getting better better each new episode, I also watch mentor and green dot , but recently found
Speed tape films , ( cockpit casual ) highly recommend taking a look if you haven’t seen .
I may just be weird but i find your voice so calming, always put your longer vids on to sleep but they are also really interesting for a novice aviation geek like me
I do the same
Hear hear
Me too , I just commented that I could listen to Chloe explain things in depth all day ❤❤
I’m so glad I found your channel towards the end of 2023. I’m that person who has flown a fair bit and yet binge watches air disaster content - usually at 2am.
I also went to high school (secondary school) and did theatre with one of the victims of Ethiopian Airlines flight 302. She was ridiculously smart, graduated high school young and came from a family who loved to travel. She was also knew what she wanted her career path to be in her mid-teens - something public health related. I still come across photos from the play we were in together and every time it takes a minute to remember that she isn’t somewhere in Africa making the world a better place.
This is the first one of your videos I’ve actually watched, rather than listened to.
I love how expressive you are. Do you always ‘present’ the video like this? I think it’s the first time I’ve actually seen you! 😂
Hahaha, this is my first time too. Imagined how shock I am.
I had family who was one of the engineers on the original 737 and even when he passed away in the early 90’s he was surprised they were still using the same similar plane design. I was told that he loved working for Boeing at the time b/c they put safety first (most of the time idk the inner workings lol). It is truly awful that the McDonnell Douglas merger truly had the worst people become the heads of Boeing and took away the voices of the Engineers and people who were building the planes. This is the DC-10 all over again.
Hell, it might be worse than the DC-10 if it isn't already (the MCAS killed more people than the infamous cargo doors) if it continues to head this way and more shady deals surface. Honestly, this might all be heading towards the level of the Lockheed Starfighter/bribery scandal.
The fact that you had to memorize this really shows how much work you did on this video. I absolutely LOVED this. Your thorough explanation about the different versions of the planes, the info about Boeing's history, and the details about why / how the plug blew out were genuinely excellent. I loved the conclusion in particular-- in some of your other videos you'd mentioned that a lot of pilots have enjoyed flying the 747s, which perplexed me compared to the crazy stuff going on in the news these days. So clarifying between the public's perception vs what pilots think (with all their skill and experience) was a great point I hadn't considered too much in the past. I mean, they're the ones flying the thing, which means they need to be comfortable with it to keep the passengers safe. Anyway, S tier video!
No one does these kinds of videos better!
What is a Teleprompter, Alec?
Ok, there's nothing wrong with the MAX per se, but it's built by Boeing, a company that can't be trusted to bolt in a door plug because of their systemic incompetence. If the MAX is built properly, great! But it's a Boeing, so we can't take that as a given. They've demonstrated that quite clearly to us.
That rose gold dress is so pretty! It goes so well with your hair colour and skin tone.
There are lots of nice dresses on show here. Personally I like the green one.
Yay. We get to see more of you. You're looking awesome sweetie. Fascinating stuff as always but I was quite distracted by your sparkly top. Thank you for explaining technical plane stuff in a way that makes sense
Alaska has had a VERY BAD 2024 so far. Not only this situation. But recently they had a cargo door that was cracked open. And speaking if cracked... but just a few days ago, a interior pilot windshield of an Alaska 737 cracked.
1. I love the thoroughness of your content.
2. I love the dress you were wearing at 30 minutes in.
Thank you! Everyone seems to like that one haha
Man, cmon.. Watermelons one is definitely superior!
@@DisasterBreakdown I love it too! Where'd you get it? I have a similar body type to you and I'm horrible at finding cute, flattering dresses.
@@michellejirak9945 Looks like a bespoke item to me, so I hope you have plenty of money to spare.
Your power of analysis is rather extraordinary. What you are accomplishing is so embedded in the
public interest that it is impossible to not become necessarily addicted to your presentations.
Note to self: don't sit near row 27! Love the video. Detail is awesome. Love your voice too.
$70 for checked baggage? That’s rough” had me cracking up. I love your videos so much. Demonstrations and all. The information, the jokes; you need your own TV show.
The amount of quality improvements since you’ve started AND all of the details you’ve put is nothing short of amazing.
Great video as always Chloe, probably your best one yet.
Thanks a ton!
@@DisasterBreakdownno probs!
@@PyroBun_2844 so true; it’s great to see a channel grow and mature in front of your eyes. In this case I haven’t been there since the beginning, but I’ve still seen it over the past months- not to mention all the comments I’ve seen about that. And I have seen it happen on other channels. It’s awesome when it’s well deserved like in this case! ❤
the editing style really reminds me of contrapoints for some reason and im living for it tbh
Honestly, I LOVED the extra-long video so no need to apologize for it. I can’t wait to see what you have coming up next.
Outstanding job, Chloe. You have really honed in your craft over the years. I am a flight attendant for United Airlines and I tell my crews about your channel and they look at me funny..."You watch a channel about airline disasters...do you realize given our profession how odd that is?" LOL. Odd or not, I look forward to every video. Drew
I mean, pilots are generally required to know what caused prior accidents for the planes they’re certified on. Plus, it is the history of your industry.
Macabre maybe, but I wouldn’t say it’s odd. At the same time, I can understand why someone would go the other way and not want to know anything about accidents.
@@piedpiper1172 I am more intrigued by the accident investigation than the event. Incredible how they can find the cause of an accident when most would see it as impossible. We call it tombstone technology unfortunately.
That's so funny.
I watch air disaster videos while flying commercial.
I don't care.
Fight me 😂
Boeing is really making me reconsider anything with "Made in United States" on it.
Also yeah, the pilots feel it is safe, but the pilots didn't know they had 4 bolts missing for 100+ flights. I'm more concerned with what the people building the planes say about the build quality, as they're the actual ones that see it.
On many products, the only thing "made in the USA" is the tag that says so. You have to buy from companies that trace and are completely transparent with their supply chains.
I don’t think your going to like what the people building the plane have to say about their quality 😂 tho I’m guessing you won’t hear many bad things said about Boeing from employees as those who speak out tend to change their mind about maintaining a pulse.😅
@@AronBezzina Oh, I've seen what they have to say, and that is exactly why I'm saying what I'm saying.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. Yes I know. I do my best to prioritize my spending to local (European) manufacturers either way, although, with some things, that's not really possible.
I live in the town building the 787, which had its manufacturing hiccups as it struggled to push technology in so many ways, but it's now a pretty solid aircraft. Even with the 787 being a notably good aircraft I still hear stories from the many locals building it that suggest eventual issues are inevitable. I personally really wish Boeing the greatest successes, as the health of that company is a serious consideration in the health of my city. However, I'm not particularly optimistic about Boeing's future.
Loved your video and your cameo on it. Great format, and you're incredible. You're so articulate, easy to listen to, and knowledgeable. Keep up the great work!!
Chloe I have to say I busted out laughing when you said "it's up to me, a girl with pink hair and pronouns to set the record straight" because at the moment I, too, am a person with pink hair and pronouns and you bet your ass we gotta set the record straight about everything!
The comparison with the DC-10 is very apt. Both planes produced under McDonnell-Douglas execs cutting corners for money with a nasty reputation that turned out to not be that big a deal once the main issues got fixed, but still had everyone hyperfixated on it. Though, the Max hasn't had an engine fall off, or an engine blow up and destroy the flight controls, or almost crash in mid-air with a jumbo, or excrete a minor panel that didn't actually do anything to the plane but happened to blow up the next plane on takeoff sequence that day, which just so happened to be *Concorde*... Man, the DC-10 was cursed.
Yeah and those same idiots are the ones running Boeing now. Go figure
I think the reason the stigma for both planes remains is due to the investigation exposing the inner working of decision making at the highest levels. You start to wonder what other half-baked systems are in the plane that waiting to go sideways under the right conditions.
Interesting fact... Turkish Airlines DC-10 flight 981 killed 346 people. The two 737 Max 8 crashes killed a total of 346 people.
Oh okay, another take on the 737 controversy, I thought. But oh my God this is so much more. I've watched TV productions, documentaries, in depth coverage from channels like Wendover and Cold fusion and pilots' channels but I have to say Chloe, you always bring a refreshing angle. Love watching your videos! Love watching your content asap and love going back to it on those long walks to St James park.
When I read the first half of the first sentence I was like ready to put up my dukes. 😂 but I agree.
@@rachmunshine9474 The evils of CZcams comment previews 😂
Cold Fusion does not seem to have very good research quality, imo.
@@AllTimeAestheticyeah I was waiting for proper aviation channels to join this. The non aviation channels never go into the right amount of depth. Then again I work in aviation so this is literally my passion
Great vid as always Chloe! Your videos are so interesting. I also don’t have to look at the screen to “watch” your videos.
I do prefer your older style of video but I enjoyed this one nonetheless
The furthest thing from our minds when we make travel arrangements is whether our pilot is properly trained. Or that the airliner we're flying on isn't safe?
Safety was once a priority!
That priority no longer exists as we are all just collateral damage!
Excellent video as always, Chloe!
United wants to hire 5000 new pilots by 2030 and 50% of them will not be the most qualified for the job but will be women and people of color. I’m all for diversity but I think the public will draw the line on affirmative action when their pilots who have their lives in their hands were not hired because they were the most qualified but they were hired because their gender and skin color.
Chloe, you are doing incredible. Apart from the in-depth, well-structured documentary style video, I can really see your confidence growing, and your sense of humour lightens the mood every now and again in this very serious topic. You as a presenter on the screen gives the report a whole new dynamic compared to just still photos and video footage. You can be very proud of your work!
Hellooo Chloe and thank you for being back!! I know how hard you work to give us this material and I am very very grateful 🎉😊
This is high quality content and by far the best documentary about the 73M accidents! I really enjoyed watching. Thank you Chloe for all the work you put in this 🙂👍
that rapidly oscillating Pacer was such a beautiful visual
Pacer, the Northerner's chariot.
somehow shaking less than an actual pacer.
Indonesia Here, when I heard the news of Flight 610, I was shocked, I never imagined Lion Air would Suffer a Fatal Crash since the Crash in 2004.
super unrelated but i ADORE that green victorian dress, its so pretty!!!
I have to say, this is the most comprehensive analysis of the whole MAX issue I have seen anywhere. The work you put into this video (and all your videos in general) is amazing! After only a few views of your videos, you've become one of my top favorite channels. Thank you so much!!
Thanks, Chloe! Fabulous video. I learnt so much. I love how you argue for including nuance in analyses and discussions 💜 (And I don't usually comment on anyone's appearance, but you look great!)
I think it's ok to comment on Chloe's appearance, as long as we're nice, because she's spending so much more time on camera and making the effort to look flamboyantly fabulous for us... almost as if she wants us to notice her. 😉 I think it's just a matter of showing appreciation.
haha i wasn't sure if it was kosher to comment but, agreed. you look absolutely beautiful.
@@beenaplumber8379"I think" lololololololol Classic start to an opinion
@@micaeldematos759 Good! That means I wasn't misunderstood. 🙂
Love the longer videos, especially when they include so much background info & research.
Also, PLEASE do the Flight 981, DC 10 story.
I am also extremely invested in a DC 10 video 👀
And here I was wondering when she’d get to the part where whistle blowers keep offing themselves the night before testifying. Guess this came out before that.
This is a high-quality product. Thank you for putting this together!
Wow, Chloe, you really outdid yourself with this one. In-depth, research-based, inuitive and occasionally sarcastic, this mini-film is a piece of aviation-loving art. Bravo!
Refreshing right
It's a good day when there's a new DB episode to enjoy. Thanks as always for all you do, Chloe!
Thanks for watching!! :)
Agreed as long as it doesn’t mean a new accident. 😊❤
29:47 I didn't know you were also into EGL fashion 😊 Where did you get your dark green OP from? It's nice knowing that I'm not the only one who likes aviation and Harajuku fashion at the same time ☺️
16:05 I hate to interrupt the serious and technical tone here, but that top is *so* cute!! 😍
Chloe! Fanfriggentastic video. That little touch of sarcasm (like when talking about which AOA sensor was faulty, GEEEE I WONDER WHICH ONE) is absolute gold, please keep that up in future videos. This video is going to go far, wait and see.
Thank you for stopping by and watching :)
@@DisasterBreakdown Always! Hope you’re keeping well :)
Ooh, a feature length video! Looking forward to this one
This is my first time watching this channel. I was immediately hooked by that soothing voice of yours, but then you appeared on screen and, pardon me for being so shallow, I was stunned by how gorgeous you are.
The content is, of course, top notch as well.
Thank you, Chloe, for all the work you put into this video. You've instantly become one of my favorite content creators ❤
Good video but one correction. Concorde was the first commercial airliner to be fly-by-wire. Fly-by-wire flight controls, engine controls, intake and exhaust controls. Waaay back in the 1960s.
you did forget one interesting thing - the cockpit door blew open during the depressurisation, and it wasn’t in the plane’s manual at all. on other plane models, the whole door doesn’t blow open, instead having slats that fail more safely. the pilots had trouble communicating and had a checklist sucked out of the cabin if i recall correctly on the alaska flight
This is my favourite channel on youtube. Never apologize for long content! Great stuff Chloe, I plan to join your patreon soon too.
Never have I expected that a breadtube essay-style video about the MAX will ever exist, so it is indeed a pleasant surprise to see you making one.
This feature-length of a documentary has thoroughly informed me on a topic that me, as an aviation enthusiast, has already known for years at this point, in a way that is even more entertaining than the rest of the technical explanations people like Mentour Pilot and blancolirio have presented to us.
Thanks for the monumental work, Chloe!
Absolutely excellent analysis and presentation. A truly comprehensive documentary.
I do not understand how ANY software that can OVERRIDE THE PILOT is considered not worth even putting in the manual, much less advising the pilots. To me, that is absolutely mind boggling.
Also: I'm glad to see you on camera more often! Its nice to put a face to the voice. 😃
It didn't override the pilots lionair crew had the plane undercontrol for most of the flight . Ethiopian crew were mcas trained and still lost the aircraft.
@@michael-y8c At the time of the crash, MCAS was trimming the plane and pushing the nose down, regardless of pilot input. How is that not overriding the pilots?
Regardless of the specifics in the crash, I was also referring to the fact that Boeing decided that MCAS did not need to be mentioned to the pilots and did not need to be in the manual. If it removes control from the pilot, changes how the plane is flying, and especially without any kind of notification that it is activating (because it doesn't seem like it had any kind of obvious visual or aural warning), then pilots NEED to be warned about it, and they were not.
@sijplays918 Lionair flew that same plane for 3 weeks even after an incorrect repair, they put the aircraft back into revenue serivce knowing it had aoa problems . What good would it have been if mcas was in the manufacturer manual when they couldn't even follow standard operating procedures The problem with most of these videos is that they fail to mention the aircraft was lost due to control flight into terrain not from mcas. Mcas was corrected 28 times by the captain, trimming the plane with the trim tab. What mcas took out the captain put back in . For 11 minutes and 40 seconds, they had the plane under control. No take over no mayham no confusion although going very fast due to leaving engines to take off power another fault by the crew. If the problem was so bad, why the hell would you fly to a holding patten? Get that thing back on the ground. Lionair don't pay their pilots for not completing the flight. I guess the facts don't make a sexy story. Ethiopian crew were trained for mcas and still lost the aircraft. Also leaving engines to full power and failed standard operation procedures.
@@michael-y8c The trim being reset is still taking over from the pilot. It is still *taking over a function of the aircraft that the pilot expects to be within his control*. This would be like if your car suddenly starts veering to the left. Yeah sure, you can correct every time it does it, but it's still hardly an ideal way to drive the car, and if it was because of a system within said car, you'd probably be pretty pissed off if no one warned you about it.
And the captain was not able to totally correct what the trim was doing - it eventually became too much to overcome because the trim angle had been set so far that even with the captain pulling up fully, it just could not cancel out the trim angle that MCAS had set it to.
Also, adding it back to the manual would have given the pilots information that could have saved their lives. Another incident with MCAS was averted when the pilots turned off the automatic trim, which they new to do *because it had been in the manual,* but was removed.
And CFIT is an *end result,* not a diagnosis. It is CFIT *due* to things like interference from MCAS and constantly having to correct it and try and figure out what is happening with your aircraft causing lack of situational awareness. Saying it was just due to CFIT is a bit like saying, "They died because their car ran into that wall." Technically true, but what CAUSED them to run into that wall? Were the roads slippery? Did their brakes fail? Did their power steering lock up and only allow them to go one direction?
@sijplays918 Ethiopian crew knew about mcas did it save them ??? Cowboys that's all they were. Captain of lionair had enough control to bring the aircraft back to the airport not to a bloody holding patten. They forgot memory items stand operation procedures, putting mcas in the manual would have made no difference at all. Aircraft was lost when control was given to the first officer to till then captain had it undercontrol only problem is they left engine's to take off so did Ethiopian crew. Bloody cowboys they should have never been anyway near a cockpit. You are talking about an airline that has a history of crashing airplane an airline who not once but twice tries to and on a runway that was underconstruction clowns.
My father was a machinist for Boeing for 34 years. He helped make many, many of the early Boeing jets. He was proud to work there and made a good product. Boeing merged with McDonnell-Douglas after he retired and he saw the writing on the wall. He predicted big problems for the "Lazy B," as he called the company.
What are some of the problems that your father predicted? I'm thinking maybe the company now hires based on certain quotas, instead of actual qualifications.
@@SK-qu4wo they hire (or don't) to save money. Nothing to do with quotas no matter how much you want it to be. 🙄
I like your voice, dear. It has a pleasing pitch, easy to listen to, not nasal or shrill like many bc's. And thanks for not shouting....
another pet peeve of mine.
Excellent work taking this puzzle apart.
That was a major departure from your normal video. I liked it. You did a fantastic job explaining what the heck was going on! Thankyou.
Chloe! Really astounding job on this one, its a pleasure to have watched you grow your channel and your content overtime. You put a lot of heart and pride in your work, thank you for the education and the laughs. I used to work on com/nav systems on the KC-10 when i was in the usaf, so i have residual interest in aircrafts, and your videos about why these things happen are thorough and captivating. Keep on shining, youre awesome!
Great video, Chloe! I like long format videos because it's more info.
I'm always disappointed when the short videos from my favourite content makers are over 😩 but I can't even begin to imagine how much work goes into making a high quality, well researched documentary.
Yeah, I realized that after I wrote it. D'oh!
Extremely well written and carefully considered content. Interesting. Concise. Very "Chloe", which is a good thing! Overall, great style, personality and production. Long video but totally engrossing and educational for all. Amazing work!❤
Informative, well presented information, extremely entertaining, well written and narrated! What isn't to love about this channel and it's amazing creator Chloe! Well done! I now have several years of videos to go binge watch.
Chloe, just such a calming, instructive voice, perfect for voice-overs and narrations
I know, that's why I started following this channel ages ago! Good narration and vibe.
I was surprised to “see” the host after randomly being played this video when trying to sleep, but after 40 mins’ish in I had to piss and watched while I sat down I got surprised! * daaamn, i imagined a guy * (due to the relatively deep voice)
“Not to be confused with Spirit Airlines that’s a whole other disaster” that got me so bad! lol 😂
Absolutely loved this, love the longer videos and I love the style
It is amazing how much detail you include in your videos, thank you so much for sharing all these facts with us, you are a star