Most people in the U.S.A. could care less about reliability unfortunately; all they care about is having the best and the coolest vehicle in their neighborhood, bottom line. So it doesn’t really matter if the Tacoma has the V6 or an engine with a turbocharger, they just want to be noticed and acknowledged by everyone around them.
The 2.4 turbo has been around for years in various Lexus models and has already proven to be exceptionally reliable and it is not uncommon to go several hundred thousand miles so long as you do your part and take care of the vehicle. That said, what people really want is a turbo diesel…
This turbo 2.4 has been out since 2021 and you are saying.... not uncommon to go several hundred thousand miles in 4 years? I would say that would be extremely uncommon.. and even when it does happen... its very low cycle.. highway only driving, and is next to completely meaningless. Lastly none of these Lexus vehicles have or will ever be pushed like the Tacoma will be...
Higher octane does not mean higher quality. It only means resistance to knocking in higher compression engines and has nothing to do with preventing carbon build up.
I'm a powertrain engineer and that is very incorrect, although I'd love to hear your reasoning. Octane is simply a measurement of fuel stability, essentially the amount of compression it takes for a fuel to auto-ignite. Higher octane means you can compress the air fuel mixture more without the risk of auto ignition prior to spark, and therefore yield more power. Now do some companies add additional detergents (which may reduce carbon buildup) to their higher octane fuels to add additional perceived value? Yes, but that has absolutely nothing to do with octane itself.
@hiramrodriguez4323 good tires, ground clearance, rear locker, and shocks make a huge difference. Speed is your friend off roading in a 2wd. Outside deep mud a good 2wd can go just about anywhere a 4wd can, just not a easy.
@BangBang-hk4rg I get it. 4x4 makes it safer and easier. Just remember, up til the 80s men took 2wd trucks everywhere 4wd goes now. Realistically, unless you're mudding a rear locker, good tires, clearance and speed beat almost any obstacle. So Toyota slaps on tires, a lift, a locker and a suspension upgrade on a 2wd and calls it off road.
This is absolute nonsense. I have owned several Hilux’s (2.4, 2.8 & 3.0L diesels as well as a 2.7 and 4.0 petrol V6 in Africa and more recently a 2.8 diesel in Europe. All the diesels had turbos and since 1997 I have never had a turbo issue or any other issue. Only tyres and breaks and the recommended services.
The 2.7 liter 4 cylinder is still available on the current generation Tacoma on the SR and SR5 base models. They unfortunately probably won't be available after this current generation. Mark.
I just bought a trd sport 2024.Down here in PR. we pay for a trd sport what you pay for the off road with a full package because of taxes.I like the way it feels and moves but then again ,is my first tacoma.
Two months ago we bought a 23' Lunar Rock Off-Road. I love it and plan on keeping it for the long run! I'm neutral about this new-gen Tacoma with the new engine. Most Dealers do not want to lower the price if anything they lowered them to 45K, the market is all over the place
I do not expect the new Tacoma to has major issues like they did with the 2016 Tacoma. However, I do not expect the new engine to last as long as the 3.5L or 2.7L that were in the previous gen Tacoma. The frame seems to be too robust and strong for that little truck. Therefore, I expect the ride to be stiffer and not to be pleasant under certain road conditions. In addition, it appears that newer Toyotas have problems with the interior's plastics, which seem to break easily. My biggest gripe with the new Tacoma, however, is the pricing. This trucks have become so expensive that the only way I can admire having one will be on a wall poster. If people are smart, they should keep their current trucks and not buy this overpriced truck. Let the greedy management wonder why no one is buying this thing.
Due to a stiffer frame doesn't mean the ride is stiffer (reviewers have said it isn't). It's better to have a stiffer frame and let the suspension do its work. A twisting frame makes for a wishy washy ride and less control.
@@dalefrolander3583When you drive it let me know if you like it. The stiffer frame means more vibration transferred to the riders. Why do you think they put hydrolic mounts on the cab of the upper trims of the Tundra? Do you think they will do that on the cheap Tacoma? There is no way the ride will be plush on that thing unless you are riding on a very good road. We will see who is right.
EVERYONE worships the Tacoma? That's a downright lie. Agree it is a nice truck, agree many do, but is not a true statement to state EVERYONE. Other than that, the video itself is good and give caution to small engines being turbocharged. I passed up a Colorado due to the 2.7L turbo and went with a Frontier with a good old fashioned 3.8L NA engine. For me, turbos belong on big block Diesels. I live in ID and have never warmed up a trans and believe me, we have winters...as I write this it is 7 degrees outside. However, I do not spin the wheels, just easy take off. If there was a big problem with a trans, they need to program it to start out in 2nd gear to heat up the fluid faster.
I think you don't have a high mileage on your car. It's your choice not to warm up the transmission; I hope you avoid any issues. Nissan is an interesting choice. However, the 3.8 engine has direct injection, which requires careful maintenance and the use of quality fuel. From your comment, I understand you have a Nissan. What is the designation of the nine-speed transmission on this model?
They have already developed and been using this engine for years in there test facilities they are robust and make great power Toyota makes quality vehicles and and that’s there fan base
This video is making long term reliability guesses. This video is a little premature. I drive a 1985 Toyota with the stock 22RE engine. It has passed the reliability test. 😉 (currently 280,000 on the odometer) I did notice one contradiction. Avoid prolonged idling of the engine and avoid driving without a fairly lengthy warmup for the transmission. 🤔
If all engines were as reliable as the 22RE in the 4runner, I wouldn't have a job😂 Regarding the premature video, I presented all the information in the video by analyzing data from the entire internet. Nevertheless, I respect any opinion backed by usage experience. As for idling the engine, I will clarify that minimal warm-up before starting is necessary for both the gearbox and the engine. However, it's a different matter if you have already had a long trip, stopped, and left the engine running without turning it off for an hour while going to the supermarket. Using the engine in this way, it's not surprising that the engine started to consume oil and all cylinders ended up with scoring. Wishing your 22RE a long service life
after all this talk about negative aspects of the new tacos, and all sounds to make sense to me, I will stick with my 2012 trd sport 4.0L with 132K on it now and running like new. It never let me down.....I will wait a year or to for Toyota to iron out the kinks and offer a more realistic price.......56K for a trd sport new is way out of my price range..I paid 35,500 for mine in 2012 and I love it
It's because our government is stupid with emission standards. It's not the vehicle manufacturers fault for making these turbocharged engines for the North American market.
why cant i get an access cab anymore , just 2 door for 2wd. if you want a 4wd you need to buy a 4 door truck, at that point just buy an suv. 2018 sr5 sticker is 35 grand , 2024 sr5 is 45 grand and you get a little turbo 4 . they got rid of the avalon and replaced it with hybrid crown, no ice crown. no thanks my whole family is going back to domestic same reliability with 10 to 20 grand off the purchase cost compared with toyota.
If you are going to be doing a lot of driving and heavy towing, stay away from the 4 cylinder turbo. Overtime stress on the engine will make it less reliable. Stay away
I never keep a car longer than 5 years out of boredom. I rarely off road. I always keep my car garaged and serviced every 5,000 mile. I don’t have anything to tow. I like gimmicks and tech. I have no pet and no kids. I’m financially stable. The new TRD Pro would be my pick. 😂
I did not regret buying my 3rd gen tacoma. What I regret that Toyota took jobs to Mexico to make 2024 pos Tacoma. If I want turbo charge, Ill buy sports car. Right now Im shopping for my son truck either Ranger or Ridgeline. At least they are V6 either American made n Japanese quality made. Another lies that economy is to blame n that is the lowest excuses. Toyota already paying American labor of pathetic rate of $15/hr n now Mexican of $2.75/he with retail of TRD $60kplus tax on 4 cylinder.
:48 shows a 7mgte while talking about Toyota being known for reliability lol. 1:26 ancient? Who uses that word for something of the modern age? Try dated perhaps? 3:56, the aluminum block heats up to temperature instantly? Instantly? who writes this crap??
In this case, the 7mgte doesn't serve as an illustration of reliability; primarily, this frame showcases Toyota's old car manufacturing. Perhaps 'dated' would have been a better description, but this is original content, and the author chose to use this specific word, and that's their choice. Now, regarding the aluminum engine, take a look at the thermal conductivity of aluminum. Or are you suggesting that aluminum engines are not prone to overheating?
Toyota has watched Ford GM and Dodge build shitty Trucks for years so they decided hey we can build over Priced Shit too. Anyone think we are going to see any of these turbo 4's show a Million Miles on the odometer like the old 5.7 V8 or V6 did? Toyota just invented through away engines so they should at least price them accordingly and tell people you Lucky Dog you just bought a 50,000 Mile Truck engine if your really really Lucky. They need to extend their Drive train Warranty or go back to their tried and true until they get the turbo 4's right.
The New Ford Ranger that’s coming out will have the best Reliability out of the Midsize Trucks. Ford is back to building Quality vehicles again after the UAW strike.😢 oh yes Toyota will be Dethroned
Never had a ford that did not fal apart and even though I was looking at Ranger I had to remember how ford did since the 90's and I went through 4. The OLD ranger was the only exception but I grabbed a tacoma because UAW strikes all for greed.
There seems to be a surplus of turbos. I don’t believe it’s in the interests of us, the owners. They are bowing to politics at our expense
Most people in the U.S.A. could care less about reliability unfortunately; all they care about is having the best and the coolest vehicle in their neighborhood, bottom line. So it doesn’t really matter if the Tacoma has the V6 or an engine with a turbocharger, they just want to be noticed and acknowledged by everyone around them.
The 2.4 turbo has been around for years in various Lexus models and has already proven to be exceptionally reliable and it is not uncommon to go several hundred thousand miles so long as you do your part and take care of the vehicle. That said, what people really want is a turbo diesel…
This turbo 2.4 has been out since 2021 and you are saying.... not uncommon to go several hundred thousand miles in 4 years? I would say that would be extremely uncommon.. and even when it does happen... its very low cycle.. highway only driving, and is next to completely meaningless. Lastly none of these Lexus vehicles have or will ever be pushed like the Tacoma will be...
Reliability is king in my book!
thank you so much man hope it was useful for you💪🏻
It was very@@thelonglastexpert
If any vehicle has a turbo I run away as fast as I can. Turbo 4cylinder ?🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂
I agree, i think Toyota made a huge mistake with this 4 banger turbo.......
Higher octane does not mean higher quality. It only means resistance to knocking in higher compression engines and has nothing to do with preventing carbon build up.
Higher octane fuels do indeed help prevent carbon build up you are wrong.
I'm a powertrain engineer and that is very incorrect, although I'd love to hear your reasoning. Octane is simply a measurement of fuel stability, essentially the amount of compression it takes for a fuel to auto-ignite. Higher octane means you can compress the air fuel mixture more without the risk of auto ignition prior to spark, and therefore yield more power. Now do some companies add additional detergents (which may reduce carbon buildup) to their higher octane fuels to add additional perceived value? Yes, but that has absolutely nothing to do with octane itself.
Does fuel with a higher octane rating help prevent carbon buildup on the valves? and what usually can help?@@dcl97
Regularly use injector cleaner?
I went with a 23 Tacoma Off Road 2wd as it fits all my needs and i love the look and reliability. $39k.
Very happy.
nice 👍🏻
Not nice, that's an oxymoron off road 2wd lol
@hiramrodriguez4323 good tires, ground clearance, rear locker, and shocks make a huge difference. Speed is your friend off roading in a 2wd. Outside deep mud a good 2wd can go just about anywhere a 4wd can, just not a easy.
I’m not knocking your truck man, but I don’t get how they call a 2wd truck “off road”
@BangBang-hk4rg I get it. 4x4 makes it safer and easier. Just remember, up til the 80s men took 2wd trucks everywhere 4wd goes now. Realistically, unless you're mudding a rear locker, good tires, clearance and speed beat almost any obstacle. So Toyota slaps on tires, a lift, a locker and a suspension upgrade on a 2wd and calls it off road.
Author seems to be unaware Toyota has decades of experience making reliable turbo engines.
Reliable doesn't mean long lasting. I'll stick with my V6
Toyota only offered two other turbo cars in the US over the past several decades.
This is absolute nonsense. I have owned several Hilux’s (2.4, 2.8 & 3.0L diesels as well as a 2.7 and 4.0 petrol V6 in Africa and more recently a 2.8 diesel in Europe. All the diesels had turbos and since 1997 I have never had a turbo issue or any other issue. Only tyres and breaks and the recommended services.
I’ll stick with the reliable 2.7 liter 4 cylinder engine and the SR access cab. This is perfect for my use. Mark in Iowa.
Hi man! You mean 2.4 liter?
@@thelonglastexpert No, the 2.7 liter. Not the new turbo 2.4 liter. The naturally aspirated 2.7 liter 159 ho 4 cylinder.
i got you now, toyota's 2.7 is the beast of reliability 💪🦾@@marksmith4582
The 2.7 liter 4 cylinder is still available on the current generation Tacoma on the SR and SR5 base models. They unfortunately probably won't be available after this current generation. Mark.
I just bought a trd sport 2024.Down here in PR. we pay for a trd sport what you pay for the off road with a full package because of taxes.I like the way it feels and moves but then again ,is my first tacoma.
Two months ago we bought a 23' Lunar Rock Off-Road. I love it and plan on keeping it for the long run! I'm neutral about this new-gen Tacoma with the new engine. Most Dealers do not want to lower the price if anything they lowered them to 45K, the market is all over the place
We're all waiting for that 📉
1998 taco still running to work everyday at 230k miles
It would of went 100k ago if it had a Turbo.
Im sticking with my 23 TRD Sport.
I do not expect the new Tacoma to has major issues like they did with the 2016 Tacoma. However, I do not expect the new engine to last as long as the 3.5L or 2.7L that were in the previous gen Tacoma. The frame seems to be too robust and strong for that little truck. Therefore, I expect the ride to be stiffer and not to be pleasant under certain road conditions. In addition, it appears that newer Toyotas have problems with the interior's plastics, which seem to break easily. My biggest gripe with the new Tacoma, however, is the pricing. This trucks have become so expensive that the only way I can admire having one will be on a wall poster. If people are smart, they should keep their current trucks and not buy this overpriced truck. Let the greedy management wonder why no one is buying this thing.
What major issues did the 3rd gen have?
"shift to park" problem
i have had 6 tacomas, newest one is a 2018. never had any problems with any of them.@@YerBoyTroy
Due to a stiffer frame doesn't mean the ride is stiffer (reviewers have said it isn't). It's better to have a stiffer frame and let the suspension do its work. A twisting frame makes for a wishy washy ride and less control.
@@dalefrolander3583When you drive it let me know if you like it. The stiffer frame means more vibration transferred to the riders. Why do you think they put hydrolic mounts on the cab of the upper trims of the Tundra? Do you think they will do that on the cheap Tacoma? There is no way the ride will be plush on that thing unless you are riding on a very good road. We will see who is right.
Purchased the 2023 Tacoma trd pro since it’s the last of the v6. Don’t trust electrical and hybrid!
Are there any good discounts on them right now?🤔
@@thelonglastexpert nope
In any case, the 3.5 is a good choice, but in my opinion, Toyota should already offer discounts on the previous generation Tacoma@@appleztooranges
@appleztooranges, do not buy the 3.5L Tacoma, get the 4.0L Tacoma.
@@dundeeecroc it’s obsolete
EVERYONE worships the Tacoma? That's a downright lie. Agree it is a nice truck, agree many do, but is not a true statement to state EVERYONE. Other than that, the video itself is good and give caution to small engines being turbocharged. I passed up a Colorado due to the 2.7L turbo and went with a Frontier with a good old fashioned 3.8L NA engine. For me, turbos belong on big block Diesels. I live in ID and have never warmed up a trans and believe me, we have winters...as I write this it is 7 degrees outside. However, I do not spin the wheels, just easy take off. If there was a big problem with a trans, they need to program it to start out in 2nd gear to heat up the fluid faster.
I think you don't have a high mileage on your car. It's your choice not to warm up the transmission; I hope you avoid any issues. Nissan is an interesting choice. However, the 3.8 engine has direct injection, which requires careful maintenance and the use of quality fuel. From your comment, I understand you have a Nissan. What is the designation of the nine-speed transmission on this model?
I think they will loose buyers.i know they are trying to comply with epa regs.they ruined the tacoma.
I'm getting the same MPG in my '17 TRD Sport V6 as the estimated MPG on the I4.
They have already developed and been using this engine for years in there test facilities they are robust and make great power Toyota makes quality vehicles and and that’s there fan base
Looks like Toyota has big plans for this engine. So far, it looks like they've done a great job.
That's what they said about the tundra, now engines are blowing with less than 40k miles
Good tech review but their was a pre-taco turbo pickup in the mid 80s just ask Bubbles
yeah yeah man it called Toyota Truck👍🏻
Their was??? Who was.
Diesels depend on turbocharging and are considered reliable, though they tend to be overbuilt more.
This video is making long term reliability guesses. This video is a little premature. I drive a 1985 Toyota with the stock 22RE engine. It has passed the reliability test. 😉 (currently 280,000 on the odometer)
I did notice one contradiction. Avoid prolonged idling of the engine and avoid driving without a fairly lengthy warmup for the transmission. 🤔
If all engines were as reliable as the 22RE in the 4runner, I wouldn't have a job😂 Regarding the premature video, I presented all the information in the video by analyzing data from the entire internet. Nevertheless, I respect any opinion backed by usage experience. As for idling the engine, I will clarify that minimal warm-up before starting is necessary for both the gearbox and the engine. However, it's a different matter if you have already had a long trip, stopped, and left the engine running without turning it off for an hour while going to the supermarket. Using the engine in this way, it's not surprising that the engine started to consume oil and all cylinders ended up with scoring. Wishing your 22RE a long service life
Why Turbo Toyota? Won't last 200k
after all this talk about negative aspects of the new tacos, and all sounds to make sense to me, I will stick with my 2012 trd sport 4.0L with 132K on it now and running like new. It never let me down.....I will wait a year or to for Toyota to iron out the kinks and offer a more realistic price.......56K for a trd sport new is way out of my price range..I paid 35,500 for mine in 2012 and I love it
“Don’t let the vehicle idle”. Also “always let your vehicle warm up for 7 minutes”
Great info!
Thx man hope it was useful for u!💪
What's funny is that 4.0 V6 they removed is still produced for the hilux and land cruiser
It's because our government is stupid with emission standards. It's not the vehicle manufacturers fault for making these turbocharged engines for the North American market.
Yep im waiting for prices to go down on the 4runner
Lots of new 24' Tacos having issues with engine and diff on awd models.
interesting to read your resources
go watch TFL truck segment when they snapped a drive shaft
@@thelonglastexpert
They might suck like the new tundras ?!
The Tundra has the same kind of fuel injection, but it's a very different engine. So far there are no serious complaints about the T24A engine
Hold on, guys.,Houston just called and said Toyota has some engine problems ...
18 gallon gas tank sigh
why cant i get an access cab anymore , just 2 door for 2wd. if you want a 4wd you need to buy a 4 door truck, at that point just buy an suv. 2018 sr5 sticker is 35 grand , 2024 sr5 is 45 grand and you get a little turbo 4 . they got rid of the avalon and replaced it with hybrid crown, no ice crown. no thanks my whole family is going back to domestic same reliability with 10 to 20 grand off the purchase cost compared with toyota.
If you are going to be doing a lot of driving and heavy towing, stay away from the 4 cylinder turbo. Overtime stress on the engine will make it less reliable. Stay away
I drive a 23 Lexus RX500H with 20,000 miles on her so far no issues.
cool!
I never keep a car longer than 5 years out of boredom. I rarely off road. I always keep my car garaged and serviced every 5,000 mile. I don’t have anything to tow. I like gimmicks and tech. I have no pet and no kids. I’m financially stable. The new TRD Pro would be my pick. 😂
We don’t worship Tacoma! We simply can’t get a Hilux in America. So we are stuck with the Tacoma
They also don’t offer a TRD off-road in manual. Only the SR and the sport
I'm keeping my 21 trd pro don't trust 4 cylinder and prices are ridiculous 45 thousan for and sr5
You forgot they are made in Mexico. I'll skip Tacomas.
Come on man, even our iPhones from China
My 07 is made in mexico....I still drive it.
@@diz_guy47 Nothing bad that our cars build in other countries
And yet another reason I went with the frontier because it's made right here in Alabama
Seriously? What makes you think "Americans" make superior vehicles? I'll wait.....
10+
lol what a slanted video. Is this NewsMax?
I did not regret buying my 3rd gen tacoma. What I regret that Toyota took jobs to Mexico to make 2024 pos Tacoma. If I want turbo charge, Ill buy sports car. Right now Im shopping for my son truck either Ranger or Ridgeline. At least they are V6 either American made n Japanese quality made. Another lies that economy is to blame n that is the lowest excuses. Toyota already paying American labor of pathetic rate of $15/hr n now Mexican of $2.75/he with retail of TRD $60kplus tax on 4 cylinder.
:48 shows a 7mgte while talking about Toyota being known for reliability lol. 1:26 ancient? Who uses that word for something of the modern age? Try dated perhaps? 3:56, the aluminum block heats up to temperature instantly? Instantly? who writes this crap??
In this case, the 7mgte doesn't serve as an illustration of reliability; primarily, this frame showcases Toyota's old car manufacturing. Perhaps 'dated' would have been a better description, but this is original content, and the author chose to use this specific word, and that's their choice. Now, regarding the aluminum engine, take a look at the thermal conductivity of aluminum. Or are you suggesting that aluminum engines are not prone to overheating?
The competitors are turbocharged also so why would they be thrilled. The Toyota will still be more reliable than the competitors.
No. Nissan is 3.8 naturally aspirated. It will far outlast ANY turbo 4.
Sure it will…🙄
@@paulhunter9613 👍
@Jazz-life exactly...it's not a truck ya pine cone! I would break that thing!
Conclusion, don't buy the new Tacoma if you plan to keep it for 10 years
Toyota has watched Ford GM and Dodge build shitty Trucks for years so they decided hey we can build over Priced Shit too. Anyone think we are going to see any of these turbo 4's show a Million Miles on the odometer like the old 5.7 V8 or V6 did? Toyota just invented through away engines so they should at least price them accordingly and tell people you Lucky Dog you just bought a 50,000 Mile Truck engine if your really really Lucky. They need to extend their Drive train Warranty or go back to their tried and true until they get the turbo 4's right.
Speculation is not a proof of unreliability.
That's why we need statistics
How about speculation of it going to be reliable?
And it’s just your opinion and is unreliable at best@Jazz-life
103,000 recalled,ha ha ha ha
recall number or link please
Hope? Ha! Damn Eek P A
The reality we have to live with 🥲
biden had a hand in it as well
Environmental standards lol AKA Biden BS standards
toyota sux azz now
What a horrible video.
The New Ford Ranger that’s coming out will have the best Reliability out of the Midsize Trucks. Ford is back to building Quality vehicles again after the UAW strike.😢 oh yes Toyota will be Dethroned
Copium
Ranger is an interesting car, too
Ford building reliability
I will believe it when I see it. As of today they are having serious reliability issues
Never had a ford that did not fal apart and even though I was looking at Ranger I had to remember how ford did since the 90's and I went through 4. The OLD ranger was the only exception but I grabbed a tacoma because UAW strikes all for greed.
@@robm3357 just like the toecoma? Lol