Inexpensive Third Function Alternative For Your Tractor/Loader!!

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  • Inexpensive Third Function Alternative For Your Tractor/Loader!!
    If you ever wanted to run a grapple or other attachment on the front of your tractor/loader, but didn't want to spend the money on an expensive third function kit- this video is for you!! Today I show you a cheaper option that I installed on my new Kubota M4.
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  • @bucket0rocks
    @bucket0rocks Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent idea. Also noticed the wire loom to protect ziptied areas. You're a genius sir :) They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'm going to do this cause it's smart as heck.

  • @AJmx2702001
    @AJmx2702001 Před 4 lety +3

    Many many times we setup our old IH tractors with at least 3 remotes on the rear that way for the loader we had one to tie into for 3rd on loader and still had 2 to use on most farm implements. Up until about 15 years ago we got by that way lol but these new implements seem to have more hydraulic needs up to 5 and 6 on our rear iso outlets

  • @wildpigremovalinc.executio8028

    Great video, I did almost the exact same thing to use a hydraulic front skid plate post hole digger. The hoses were much cheaper than adding a third function, which is what the dealer was trying to sell me. Using the rear connectors on my tractor I had to install a control valve so I could control the forward and reverse function of the post hole digger. Have a nice day.

  • @jamesharless5357
    @jamesharless5357 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice, very neat looking work you did!

  • @wvcruffler123
    @wvcruffler123 Před 3 lety +1

    This is fantastic. I was thinking this as I was pricing 3D function valves for my M8540. And I’m in the “I’ll use it rarely” group too. Gonna find these parts online and give it a go. Thanks!!!!

    • @travislaflin
      @travislaflin Před 2 lety

      Did u find these parts online? Can you share a link.

  • @houndsmanone4563
    @houndsmanone4563 Před 4 lety +3

    Nicely done, Chris. Saves a lot of cash & time. Fine choice years ago by deciding to go the route you did. Your method, you were able to disconnect hoses from your tractor on 3 separate occasions to use on your 4 tractors. Nice saving$
    Your method also speaks volumes to new tractor owners that it's not a bad idea to get/have rear remotes (for simplicity).

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      Thank you! I sure hope the video will help others save some money!!

  • @kapperoutdoors
    @kapperoutdoors Před 4 lety +1

    Good video, those 3rd function kits are quite expensive! Man, I can just smell the new tractor smell from here! Beautiful tractor!

  • @802louis
    @802louis Před 2 lety +2

    Nice job thanks for sharing

  • @Heimerviewfarm
    @Heimerviewfarm Před 4 lety +4

    I really like that idea, really adds a bunch of options for a guy on a budget.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety +1

      It sure does! I hope it helps save people money :)

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 Před 4 lety

      thats why love kubotas they help saves customers lots dollars plus best warranty

  • @GerraldFarms
    @GerraldFarms Před 4 lety +1

    Looks good. Nice and met. Have a good one

  • @doct0rnic
    @doct0rnic Před 2 lety

    Pricing out a BX now, I am considering this option as its half price for the dual remotes on the rear than the third function. After running old tractors, I am used to multiple levers to run the loader.

  • @AaricHale
    @AaricHale Před 4 lety +1

    Lot of great info for people to help people save money !

  • @RagingBullets
    @RagingBullets Před 4 lety +1

    Thats some good saving. Thanks for this. U did great sir. I am your new friend

  • @cooperangus5482
    @cooperangus5482 Před 4 lety +1

    Great stuff as always

  • @TAHDAHFarm
    @TAHDAHFarm Před 4 lety +2

    It's a great alternative. I did get the factory 3rd function on the front of my Kubota. I just haven't spent the money for a grapple bucket yet. The grapple I want is expensive, but none of them are cheap.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      They sure aren't cheap, especially if you want a quality one! Hope things are going well for you.

  • @IH100
    @IH100 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video Chris!

  • @gregmckee951
    @gregmckee951 Před rokem

    Great idea, I’m looking into a Grapler for my L4060. I’m now going to look into hoses from the rear ops. Do you have measurements of hoses ?

  • @RickBork
    @RickBork Před 4 lety +1

    Great option Chris I need to buy another tractor. Thanks man. Take care.

  • @markcornell986
    @markcornell986 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice set up..Chris..

  • @donaldslate4195
    @donaldslate4195 Před 2 lety +1

    Check out Outback Wrap. Good hose protection.

  • @jackcody3102
    @jackcody3102 Před 2 lety +1

    hi there. great video. thanks for putting this together. i have a few questions for ya. i just bought my first tractor today. i got a 2019 mx5200. i was looking a a john deere 5 series new and the dealer told me that to get hydraulic power to the front of the loader, so that i could control a snow plow angle was well over 5000$$$! i have lots of experience with snow cats, skid steers, and a few other machines but I'm quite new to the modern tractor. my new rig will be used for snow removal, dirt loader work, and a front grappler for clearing forest for my house im building on my land here in colorado. i can't think of a time i will ever use the rear remotes. i know that you mentioned if you use your front third function a lot, this may not be ideal. is this still true if im not really ever using an implement in the rear? this seems so simple and easy to me. i can't see why john deere told me i needed another pump and many other parts just to turn a plow blade left and right. again im new to the tractor world, maybe im missing something here. im extremely mechanically inclined and you set up is the obvious choice. any info would be greatly appreciated. thanks!

  • @gordonbright7106
    @gordonbright7106 Před 4 lety +1

    That's a good idea beats paying for a 3rd kit. on something using occasionally. Take care Chris

  • @plumcreekfarms8138
    @plumcreekfarms8138 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this video. I plan on doing this to my M 9540 and this is a great economic way to do it. I. Hoping it works for a round bale hugger.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      You should have plenty of flow for a bale hugger. I have run my grapple and other basic attachments with no issues.

  • @williambrewer6346
    @williambrewer6346 Před 4 lety +2

    Nice money saving idea! I have received the parts for the same setup from Hydraulics Direct.I like the break ,if needed, to remove the loader. Summit Hydraulics has economical 3RD function solutions. I received the hydraulic diverter valve kit with the trigger joystick handle to actuate the diverter valve when needed. I haven't had time to install it yet, but the parts look high quality. It should cost about 1/3 of the aftermarket kit JD recommended.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks for mentioning a few aftermarket companies. The only one I found was from wr long. It's nice to have options!

  • @Theblindfarmer
    @Theblindfarmer Před 4 lety

    It works and you have a 3rd function something I would do

  • @utuberatlanta
    @utuberatlanta Před rokem

    Dhaven family farm. Thank you for your video. It gas given me hope (hopefully) about running a hydraulic top link off my front third function i had installed for my new grapple.
    So my question is do you think i can run a hydraulic top link off of my third function valve for my grapple? I would be using the switch mounted on the loader joystick i guess to control the top link. I really do not want to spend the additional $1500 to get my dealer to install rear remotes. I will probably never need to run the top link at the same time as my grapple third function so I am thinking i can just switch between the two depending on what I am doing.
    I am assuming i can just unhook the lines going to the front hydraulics and hook hoses that will be run to the hydraulic top link in back. It may not be as easy as that but with my novice\ technical thinking it seems like it would work
    You thoughts and ideas would be greatly appreciated. God bless.
    Jim

  • @JonDingle
    @JonDingle Před 4 lety +1

    Good idea that young man!

  • @OldReddingFarm
    @OldReddingFarm Před 4 lety +1

    wow thats a good looking tractor !

  • @rowdyyates7706
    @rowdyyates7706 Před 4 lety +1

    Good video Chris

  • @crslyrn
    @crslyrn Před 4 lety +2

    I like that 3rd function idea. The fact that you've been able to reuse it on multiple tractors that you've had makes it even better. Best part, it's simple & easy to do. Stay safe.

  • @johnmorrical3573
    @johnmorrical3573 Před 3 lety +3

    Did you make that coupler bracket or did you find that online . Thanks

  • @sutedisudarmono9838
    @sutedisudarmono9838 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you very much nice beutiful

  • @craigbrown1854
    @craigbrown1854 Před rokem +1

    I know this is long after you created the video, but I am new to this and wondering if you could list what parts to buy to make this work. ie; what hoses including connector types, where to get that bracket for the loader cross arm, and what quick connects to buy, and where.
    also, we didn't get to see you use the third remote function in the video. does it act differently than a standard third action? I was under the impression that the levers in the cab that run the rear remotes are kind of on/off. Do they allow you to slowly close the grapple? Can you feeather or adjust how much you close a grapple or how quickly?
    Thanks for the super helpful video!

  • @GosselinFarmsEdGosselin
    @GosselinFarmsEdGosselin Před 4 lety +2

    Good video Chris.. those fancy swivel fittings.. sometimes are more problem than they're worth.
    But sometimes you need them.

  • @davidarnold8270
    @davidarnold8270 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks for the great advice on this topic. Third function is close to two thousand dollars at dealership plus installation.

    • @denslod2930
      @denslod2930 Před 19 dny

      I think you mean stealership. Cost me $800 installed

  • @Deerlover75
    @Deerlover75 Před 3 lety

    What’s the overall length of that hose assembly from the front to the back ?

  • @rockyrunangusranch-wieszracing

    Good video Chris, my tractor is set up that exact same way, itd be nice to have the button on the joy stick but hey its functional, I have yet to need both remotes at the same time, and I feel like if both are needed then the 3rd function probably isn't going to be used anyway. Good work!

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      Thanks!!! Yup, the button would be nice but I don't need it enough to spend the money lol

    • @eliseolozano4785
      @eliseolozano4785 Před 3 lety

      If I want to use a grapple. How would I control the grapple? For it to open and close?

  • @tomspaulding7764
    @tomspaulding7764 Před rokem

    Hey Josh do they make a kit for the 5140 kubota? And where do you buy 1

  • @axeaddiction796
    @axeaddiction796 Před 2 lety +3

    What buttons are you using to open and close the grapple?

  • @marcelb4872
    @marcelb4872 Před 11 měsíci +1

    THANK YOU,VERY VERY GOOD VIDEO-😀🚜 AAA+++

  • @joshbeckett223
    @joshbeckett223 Před 4 lety +1

    Man I’m gonna pull a Kapper. Put that thing to work already!! You can’t just keep dangling my dream tractor in front of me and not let me see it work
    Good cheap alternative for front end my friend

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      LOL Pretty soon I hope! I am anxious to put it to work too, but the fields are still to wet :(

  • @jonathanmcnett8708
    @jonathanmcnett8708 Před rokem

    I have an l3901. Are there options on that machine?

  • @ridgedbullet2420
    @ridgedbullet2420 Před 10 měsíci

    I have an la525 and was thinking about just using a log splitter diverter and getting the hoses made at a local shop here. Wouldn't be using it often that why I was thinking that. 200$ compared to a 1200$ kit

  • @farmerpete
    @farmerpete Před 4 lety +1

    Looks like a good option for something you only use occasionally. Do you plan on running with the loader on all the time or part of the time?

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      I plan to leave it on all the time. The loader will get used on a regular basis 🙂

  • @brucearudy7874
    @brucearudy7874 Před 3 měsíci

    Is there a kit that I can get for my tractor?

  • @lspooner4111
    @lspooner4111 Před 3 lety

    Does it have power (pressure) both ways, to open and close a grapple?

  • @cwolf8841
    @cwolf8841 Před 3 lety

    I thought you could just add longer hoses from the SCV to the grapple (realizing you lose curl-dump)?
    I imagine adding a Power Beyond kit wouldn't be inexpensive.

  • @AgWildNebraska
    @AgWildNebraska Před 4 lety +2

    Quick and easy. I added the factory third function on my tractor.. not so quick or easy.

  • @FarmallFanatic
    @FarmallFanatic Před 4 lety +1

    On my old loader, id just set the bucket at a height I wanted it at and pull the connectors out of the remote.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      It would stay up?

    • @peterlast9354
      @peterlast9354 Před 3 lety

      DeHaven Family Farm I think he meant he uses the lines for bucket curl and he sets it level because if he disconnected the bucket up and down he couldn’t get very far.

  • @cwo9930
    @cwo9930 Před 2 lety

    I'm on my 3td tractor doing this same process. I had a new holland with an actual 3rd function, switch failed. Never again.

  • @steveterry7981
    @steveterry7981 Před 3 lety

    Is there somewhere that fabricates the mounting bracket?

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 3 lety

      I got that bracket from the shop that made the hoses. Probably could find something online too 🙂

  • @chazramirez4250
    @chazramirez4250 Před 3 lety

    Maybe I'm missing something? I have one set of remotes at the rear but they are for the back hoe and are always flowing in one direction.

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 Před 3 lety

      Me too. Here was my solution: I ordered a separate valve assembly with a single joy stick for $125. Mount it on the right fender near the loader joy stick. Remove the factory hose from the power beyond port on the loader joystick (it is the one that goes to the controls for the rear remotes), install short hose from power beyond of the OEM valve to the IN on the new valve. Move the original power beyond hose from the OEM valve to the PB port (OUT) on the new valve. That leaves 2 ports on the valve for the hoses (6 to 8 feet long) to the front of the loader where you install the quick connects. It is very simple and can be moved to a new tractor later if need be. I'm not a fan of the electronic toggle button switches the 3rd F kits use; switches don't weather well. A mechanical valve will last a lifetime.

  • @MySliceOfHeavenoutdoors
    @MySliceOfHeavenoutdoors Před 4 lety +2

    great tip, you need to put that tractor to work, it's to clean

  • @CaptJohnsBar
    @CaptJohnsBar Před 3 lety +1

    What runs it inside the cab?

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 3 lety +1

      One of the hydraulic levers that controls one of the rear remotes.

    • @peterlast9354
      @peterlast9354 Před 3 lety

      DeHaven Family Farm ahh so you do have a lever in the cab. I was all excited about doing this same thing but once I remove my backhoe I have no lever to control that valve. All levers are on the backhoe... looks like I’ve got no choice but to buy a 3rd remote set up 😩

  • @pughviewfarms4622
    @pughviewfarms4622 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video. I was contemplating doing the same thing to my kubota. I'm going to pm you on messenger or Instagram. I have a couple questions.

  • @GerraldFarms
    @GerraldFarms Před 3 lety +1

    Hello buddy

  • @harryvermaelen4290
    @harryvermaelen4290 Před 2 lety

    Show the inside and levers you use to work it

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 2 lety

      The hoses plug in to the rear remotes of the tractor, so whatever levers/buttons an individual person's tractor uses to operate the rear remotes will operate it.

  • @bradjenkins932
    @bradjenkins932 Před 3 lety +1

    I've been running my grapple this way for 7yrs now, cost me $200

    • @peterlast9354
      @peterlast9354 Před 3 lety

      I’d like to be able to do this but the hydraulics I have in the rear are for the backhoe and when I disconnect it I have no way to control the rear valves. The control levers are part of the backhoe. How do you control the grapple ? You must a lever that controls your rear hydraulics near the loader control ??

    • @bradjenkins932
      @bradjenkins932 Před 3 lety

      @@peterlast9354 The lever for my rear remote valve.

  • @briangc1972
    @briangc1972 Před 3 lety

    That is a good option for people with extra remotes in the rear. Some of us don't have them, so I ordered a separate valve assembly with a single joy stick for $125. Mount it on the right fender near the loader joy stick. Remove the factory hose from the power beyond port on the loader joystick (it is the one that goes to the controls for the rear remotes), install short hose from power beyond of the OEM valve to the IN on the new valve. Move the original power beyond hose from the OEM valve to the PB port (OUT) on the new valve. That leaves 2 ports on the valve for the hoses (6 to 8 feet long) to the front of the loader where you install the quick connects. It is very simple and can be moved to a new tractor later if need be. I'm not a fan of the electronic toggle button switches the 3rd F kits use; switches don't weather well. A mechanical valve will last a lifetime.

    • @lh98
      @lh98 Před 3 lety

      do you have a video of this or more details like the valve you ordered? I have rear hydraulic lines for my backhoe but once I disconnect and remove the backhoe I have no joy stick or lever to control them, they all are on the backhoe. I see some tractors have a lever for them but mine does not. Trying to figure out spend the money for 3rd remote or use the rear but no idea how to control it.

    • @lh98
      @lh98 Před 3 lety

      @Brian G C can you elaborate and point me in the direction of the separate valve assembly you speak of?

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 Před 3 lety

      @@lh98 Amazon sells them, Tractor Supply sells them. Some listings call them single spool valves.

  • @roybenoit2377
    @roybenoit2377 Před 3 lety

    more detail re hook-up would be nice. Thanks anyway.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 3 lety

      What info are you looking for?

    • @roybenoit2377
      @roybenoit2377 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dehavenfamilyfarm I understand the front and rear hook-up but what exactly happens at the control valve where there are 4 connections? Thanks for the reply.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 3 lety

      @@roybenoit2377 The hoses run from the front of the tractor directly to one of the tractors rear hydraulic remotes. Then you just use the lever in the cab that operates the corresponding hydraulic rear remote you plugged the hoses into to operate whatever attachment you hook up on the front of the tractor. There is no connection made at any control valve. Hope this info helps!

    • @roybenoit2377
      @roybenoit2377 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dehavenfamilyfarm Thank you! The 2 sets of hoses had me confused.

  • @zglozman
    @zglozman Před 3 lety +1

    I don't get something wrlong 3rd function kit is like 800 bucks

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 3 lety

      I don't have the knowledge to install one of those kits. I was quoted 1300 for one- including installation. The hoses I already had and are way cheaper for someone who only uses third function occasionally.

    • @garlandhood9729
      @garlandhood9729 Před 2 lety

      I need one installed on a 2018 Jd 3038

    • @georgea6403
      @georgea6403 Před rokem

      Really. He said it would cost 6K.

  • @danielthomason5685
    @danielthomason5685 Před 4 lety +1

    Kubota only charged 700 extra to add 3rd function from factory

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 4 lety

      That's not a bad price, but this tractor was in stock at the dealership already and it would have cost me more than that to have them install it 🙂

    • @danielthomason5685
      @danielthomason5685 Před 4 lety

      @@dehavenfamilyfarm yea it was 850 at my dealer to have it added to my 7060..but if you dont use alot your way is great...i use mine very often

  • @barrymcfeat5141
    @barrymcfeat5141 Před 10 měsíci

    OMG! Was looking for help/advice re subject
    Instead I got the most boring/uninformative advice going .. :-( ??

  • @garrytalley8009
    @garrytalley8009 Před 3 lety

    There is nothing saved here. If anyone had a 3rd function installed on a tractor you would get it back when you sell it. Not all tractors even have those extra valves in the rear. In fact if you put your own 3rd function on you could take it off and use it on the next tractor as well. All of these cheap alternatives are not good ideas. You don't save anything considering their function is less than desirable when it comes time to use your equipment.

    • @dehavenfamilyfarm
      @dehavenfamilyfarm  Před 3 lety +1

      I don't think you listened to the video lol I said this idea wasn't for everyone. It works for me because I only need minimal 3rd function capabilities. The setup I installed cost a few hundred dollars and I could install it myself. I do not have the knowledge to install a third function kit and was quoted $1300 for the kit and install for this tractor.