You Can Install a Third Function Valve Part One
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- You can install a third-function valve on almost any modern tractor. We did a DIY third function valve on our TYM Tractors T264 using the universal third function kit from Summit Hydraulics. Watch me as I figure out how to install this 3rd function valve kit in part 1.
Our end game is to use the Sub-Compact Tractor Mini Tine Grapple from Worksaver, and it is a perfect match for the TYM Tractors T264.
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That was probably one of the best how to videos that i have ever seen. I like the fact that you didnt edit stuff out and showed everything step by step. This would be my go to if or when i put a third function on my tractor. Now on to part 2 to finish it up
Thank you. I appreciate the positive feedback. Happy New Year
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Glad to see you were using the Hank 'fix-all' wrench. I guess that explains why it all came together so easy.
It like adding grease on a skid. Everything slides better. LOL
Looking good so far Tony., you do nice work. I'm looking forward to watching part 2. Thanks for sharing you experience.
Thank you. Working on part two now
It's looking good Tony! Will be nice having that grapple on there! Looking for part 2!! Have a good weekend my friend!!
Working on it now
Nice job Tony. I worked as a mechanic for a local John Deere dealer and installed many 3rd function values. The nice thing about the kits from John Deere is everything is included for the model tractor you are working on and it mounts right up.
TYM has the kit also, but I bought this universal kit for another tractor and never installed it. I couldn't see spending another $800 for a factory kit when I had this on hand. Thank you, I think it turned out OK, but I am going to tweak it more. Tony
@@TonysTractorAdventure do the universal parts give an option to order brackets for a specific make/model tractor? I was just curious if you thought about trading in the bracket you had for one to fit the TYM did you put it on - - or rather than one for which you made your own bracket
Tony, I have about 62 hours on my T264 and love it. But I found very little out there regarding options, parts, how-to's, etc. Thank you! I find your channel very informative and my new go-to for everything T-264.
Ben, What are you looking for? If you want 3rd function or rear remotes, your dealer can order them. So glad you like yours as much as I do. The T264 is a little bulldog!
@@TonysTractorAdventure
Tony,
When I bought my T264 last fall, the only thing I could find on the net was a sales pitch for T264. But I did my homework before I bought TYM and I knew I made the right choice over competition. But I did have second thoughts for a while, not because of the tractor, but because of support and 3rd party attachments or parts that don’t mention the T-264; actually most don't even mention TYM.
Here are some of my complaints (scratch that! Opportunities for improvement at TYM)
- My BY200 isn’t prepped for a mechanical thumb; and there is no mechanical thumb for the “BY200”. After much research, I finally got a response from tractorbynet.com that there is a part number for a new mechanical thumb but calling TYM with that part number and my dealer drew DIH “Deer in Headlights”.
- I went through real pain getting confidence in ensuring I had the correct 50 hour maintenance parts (filters, oils, etc). I have that list of parts now if you want it.; 100 hour maintenance is a new, separate issue.
- I’m a newbie to tractors, but I have rebuilt an engine or two; so I’m a tiny bit mechanical if you will; so when I replace a filter I want to make sure I replace it with the correct filter. Putting on a NAPA filter that isn’t referenced to my tractor or my engine is nerve racking!
- I almost gave up on a grapple and a 3rd party valve until your videos. I’ve broken my hood grill in multiple places lifting stumps and tree limbs with my bucket. Didn’t know where to turn for a reliable grapple? Called TYM they say call dealer… dealer is DIH. TYM needs to do better! TYM, what can we learn from JD here? Note, YOU have a BETTER tractor in the T-264 but JD will win every time until you understand who your customer looks like!
To say the least, I’m disappointed in TYM’s support of newbie owners. Yes, many things should be worked through a dealer, but others should not. Fact is - the tractor world is a great deal “Do it Yourself” as proof in your grapple videos; but more and more owners are newbies like myself. I translate this into lost opportunity for TYM since they think everyone is a life long farmer with a welding torch in his pocket.
To answer your question Tony. I’ve got a long list of what I'm looking for but I'll cut it short:
- I want a root ripper, it’s an corrugated blade that replaces the bucket so you can tear up roots and such.
- I want a mechanical thumb for my BY200
- I want to buy my 100 hour parts with confidence
- I want to buy a grapple and install it myself like you did (well done! - at least that is done but it would be nice if TYM said... You should use parts....)
- I need a replacement grill guard because the TYM grill guard is poorly designed - it does not protect the grill and the radiator in any real way).
- I want a replacement grill because I busted mine up to holy heck.
- I want a better dealer (that's my problem).
- But, oh don't get me started ;)
Actually Tony, I really do have a long list of wants for this awesome little beast … and I do love this tractor!
For the price, It's really a beast and has surprised me already in so many ways in just that first 62 hours of operations.
So Thanks Tony - keep up the great work - I found your channel the other day and I'm hooked!
Cheers!
Ben
@@workcompe-bill4780 hey Ben. Can I get that 50 hr parts list from you?
Wow! That is a lot to take in at 6 am. Dealership support is key. I walked in to my Dealership and asked for my 50 hour service parts and walked out with a bag of TYM parts. My Dealership did have aftermarket filters if I wanted. I wish you the best and you have spurred me to make more videos showing how to use the tractor.
@@sierrat.2019
What(Mfg:Part#'s / Common:Part#)
Oil Filter (Mfg:HRA1102000A3 or EA00003786C or 11930535150 / Common:PH2808)
Hyd Filter (Mfg:13152302100/Common:P169078)
Fuel Filter
(Mfg:14571000010 or hk13010022a2 / Common:-)
Air Filter
(Mfg: 11201032020 / Common: P821575)
I have successfully used the common part numbers for the oil and hydro filter at NAPA. My 100 hour is coming and I will validate the fuel and air filters.
Good luck!
Very nice work Tony.
Thank you my friend
Gonna be sweet Tony. I've been telling the wife i need a Grapple for my loader. Their really handy.
Dean, I had no idea how much fun and useful they are. I am going to do a video on how to use the clamshell grapple soon.
This is a great video for the DIY installer that is inclined! EXCELLENT articulating of human prac app. ;) RAH!!
Thank you very much!
Nice video
Thank You Tony
You are welcome
Hint: Better than zip-ties, you can add Adel clamps to the mounting bolts the factory uses for the hard lines, and mount your lines a little more cleanly, and permanently.
Thank you. I appreciate the idea.
Good job buddy 👍
Thanks 👍
Good job. I have seen those summit kits before and considered them. Now that you installed one I'll get to see some real world results.
I seen one at a trade show once. It looks very well built. So far, it works flawlessly. It seems to be a perfect match for most 60 hp tractors and below with a 13 gpm flow rate. I know it works perfect on the TYM Tractors T264.
I had my 3rd function valve installed at the dealer .
Bought a TYM
I would have had I not already had the kit.
How much is a dealer 3rd function on a new GC1725M? I was told $1500
Good morning Sir 🌞 Congrats on you sawmill purchases 👍 Realy nice DIY third fonctions kit 👍 Sorry about your wife getting stung 😢Marie Ange was a stung too few year ago by an underground hornet,,, 😢 Great hydraulique bender 👍You have a great drill sets for piercing through that hard steel tractor loader supports 👍Yes in deed nothing is easy for sure in the fabricating world 🥴The great magic of video is great 👍Yes crescent wrench are great 😊 Poor you, have to accept the paint run 🤣I'm like that too about my Yellow and Black signature color 🥴🤪 🤣Great professional installation Sir 👍👍👍Have a great week end Sir Cheers 👍👍👍
As always, it is a pleasure to read your post and uplifting. I really enjoy making things and will do more in the future. I made or had things made in the Military all of the time. I miss the art of seeing something in my head, and making it come to life.
@@TonysTractorAdventure Fabricating Things is great way to keep you alert and steady and also very rewarding, it is a great therapy too 😊👍 Cheers !!!
Those are called “bulkhead fittings”. Very handy things to have around.
Thank you. My mind goes blank sometimes when I am filming, but I just roll on. I appreciate your knowledge. Tony
taking notes,
Yes sir. The T474 is so easy to install the valve
Great video as usual, however I noticed you using the jack handle to tighten the valve on the jack.. My Father taught me to never over tighten the valve as it eventually will wear out the valve and it will allow the jack to leak down.. I have several bottle jacks and have never had a tool on the valve of any of them.. I always only finger tighten the valve on my jacks.. I just thought I would share my method.. I ordered my 474 with the third valve.. Keep up the good work..
Thank you. I just followed the instructions for the jack.
I’ve found that a step drill bit works better than an oversized twist drill at deburring; best of course is a dedicated deburring bit. The twist drill tends to leave a bit of a rough finish... 🤔
All good points. I try to show these type Videos with tools most people have on hand. I appreciate your attention to detail and thank you for watching my friend. Part two will be out soon.
Great video! Well within my skill level to do! any particular reason you went with work saver vs Titan? I noticed Titan has a 48" and 60" grapple as well. I was considering the Titan for the more competitive price and free shipping. Thanks!, Nevermind, the Titan models are very heavy. Great video 👌
Casey, I have know the owner of Worksaver for about 3 years now and I know him to be a good man. He puts sweat and blood in his product and it is made in the USA. There are also two Titans. Titan Attachments and Titan Implements. They both sell grapples. Tony
Amazon list the Max flow rate at 15 gpm for the kit. My Mahindra spec sheet list hydraulic implement pump output at 11 gpm with a max total flow of 16 gpm. So if the normal operating flow is 11 gpm, I think that should work.
You will be fine. The 16 GPM is for both the steering and rear of the the tractor. It should handle it.
Awesome install video Tony, great ingenuity. I am buying this same kit soon for my Kubota BX. Nice welder in the background! Looks like a Hobart handler 140? I have the same welder that I use for fabricating at work and LOVE the thing, such a great reliable welder.. Works better than most Miller's iv used.
PS. What type of camera do you use? Looks like a DJI? I use a GoPro hero 7 black and the thing is garbage.. Freezes, overheats, and glitches all the time, iv lost so much good footage before that iv almost smashed it lol
Biff, we have about 4 cameras now. Our main camera is the Sony AX700. We have a Sony AX43, DJI Action, and a DJI pocket. We have picked them up along the way.
Just wondering if u have a parts list or at least the fittings u had to use on the loader valve to plumb to the third function valve. Thanks! Great videos!
I just made it up as I went. The parts are documented in the build video, but I don't remember any specifics.
Looking to buy a subcompact new. Is it like a car dealership in wiggle room on price? Should I try for lower price or add on like a third function on loader?
Most tractor dealerships will just give you their price. Sometimes the manufacturer will offer rebates at different times on different things. There may be a couple hundred dollars either way, but tractors don't have the markup like cars. Cars are sold by the millions. Tractor companies may sell 100,000 for all brands in a year. Tractors last a lifetime if they are taken care of.
I have heard some people have used the rear hydraulic for the backhoe to run the 3rd function (on/off switch between legs controls flow to what would normally be to the backhoe can be repurposed to open and shut the pincer on the grapple). What do you think of that vs installing the aftermarket 3rd function? Thanks!
It can be done, but it is not practical. You will have to move your hand away from the steering wheel or the loader control. The rear remotes would really reduce the effectiveness of the grapple by having to stop driving or stop moving the loader arm to close the grapple. I would say, if you are going to go to the trouble of buying a grapple, plan on installing it with a true third function valve. I understand the cost associated with third function, but you will be happy with the results. Hydraulic lines are a big cost, and I promise, you will go to a third function valve at some point. Save the money for those long hoses and install the third function up front. I was surprised at the cost of the hoses from the grapple to the quick connect. Ouch! Tony
@@TonysTractorAdventure thanks for the info and the experience. Really enjoying the channel 👍
Tony, I am still waiting for the video where you tell us what happened to the beloved LS tracors. I am not an LS fan, but really like the new choice of TYM. What is the story?
TYM is a profitable company which stands behind their product. TYM has to be the best value on the market. Tony
Tony's Tractor Adventure - Ok... and??? LS isn’t?? Or doesn’t?? 🤔
I will just have to leave it here. I hope you understand. I recommend each person research before they buy.
Do you still have the LS MT 125? Would like to know where the power beyond is located. Is the installation the same? I have Summit Universal 3rd Function kit. Any advice would be great!
I sold the LS to a family member three years ago. It is still going strong but on the other side of the state. All hydraulic systems work on the same principles.
Hello Tony. I have just purchased a Mahindra 3650 (Series 3600, 50 hp) and need to install a third function kit. In your video you mention the kit is for tractors up to 40 hp. I checked the Amazon link and reviewed throughly. It specifys some Kubota tractor models but never specifically stated the kit was limited to 40 hp. How can I determine if it will work on my 50 hp Mahindra?
You will need to know your hydraulic flow rated and make sure the valve is rated for that much.
I have the TYM394. Do you think the 3rd function kit you have listed will work?
I would check the flow rates, but Summit makes higher flow kits too.
@@TonysTractorAdventure I appreciate the jnfo
Any help on a Case DX 40 tie in for the valve?
I know it can be done, but I am no help without seeing it. I wish you the best.
Great install, what kind of grapple is that ? Tym 3rd kit is $800 do you think it's worth it ?
I would say it is worth it. After having hoses made up, and adapters, I have that much in mine. I would have went that way, had I not already had the kit. Just make sure it is a third function kit and not a diverter kit. The way I looked at it in the manual, it was a diverter kit.
@@TonysTractorAdventure do you have a link for the TYM brand third function valve kit? (NOT the diverter)
The Tractor dealership is the link. 😁😁😁
I have a TYM 234 with a TX2000 loader, but I am having a hard time finding the TYM 3rd valve kit online. Anyone aware of an online vendor for this?
Look back at my T264 third function install.
Hey Tony, would this kit work with a Massey GC1723?
With minor modification, it would work.
@@TonysTractorAdventure Thanks man. Love the videos.
Thank you, my friend.
How much is a dealer installed 3rd function on a new GC1725M? I was quoted 1500
I did my own install, so that takes out labor. There is a link in the video for this kit.
Do you still have your 2
ls's?
No. The LS tractors are gone. TYM is a very well run company which is profitable and stands behind their products. We have had zero issues with TYM Tractor. Thank you for watching.
Hi. Question ... I was looking at a LS mt125. We don't have a TYM dealer within an hour away. Did you not like the LS' I watched a lot if your videos from them. other than a few loose bolts I thought they seemed good.
The LS MT125 does not have a greasable front axle trunnion. It is just metal on metal and will get loose fast with heavy loader use. There is no way to fix this. Other than the front axle becoming loose, it is a great Tractor. TYM puts grease points on their smallest tractor everywhere. I am not sure why LS cut that corner. It is a problem we hear all the time.
Thank you sir for this information!
Maybe I'm over thinking this but wouldn't it be better to modify the front hose bracket to present the hose fitting in a vertical offset mounting which would allow you to use two right angle adapters in order to take the bend out of those hoses? It seems to me that would be less stuff hanging out there to catch on whatever.
I don't think it will be an big issue and many factory setups are just like mine. Having said that, I am a gear head, and I like your idea. I even thought of running steel lines. I have a bender. If it gives me any issue, I will change it.
Why not use the third function kit by the manufacturer that is designed for the machine?
Because they don't make a third function kit. They only have a diverter kit for this tractor. I don't like the diverter setup. Actual third function is worth its weight in gold.
Bulkhead fittings
Not sure what you mean?
@@TonysTractorAdventure lol I'm sorry , the fittings there called bulkhead fittings . Great video 👍 keep em comming
Do you know if there is a true third function kit available for t.y.m. or is it necessary to use the diverter ???
This is a true third function kit. Third function or diverter valves are dependent only on how the are plumbed. Some of the updated tractors like the T25, T474, T494, T574, are prewired and have OEM kits that are true third function kits. Any tractor can have true third function.