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A couple of weeks ago we gave an introduction to a hydraulic diverter kit for our 1025R from Summit Hydraulics. This device allows you to divert hydraulic flow, acting as a third function on your tractor. This week we installed it, and show you step-by-step instructions so that by watching, you can have a bit of extra assurance that you're able to do it yourself, and able to do it quickly (spoiler: you definitely can). This particular kit from Summit Hydraulics came ready for our 1025R, and in just a little time we were up and running with a new option for a hydraulic grapple or plow.
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As a Millwright (industrial mechanic) I'd like to have channel locks banned because they do SO MUCH damage and on frequently adjusted fittings, eventually destroy them.
Just get a set of larger wrenches, they aren't THAT expensive if you by Chinese cheepo.
I bought a 3rd function Kubota kit for my Ford NH 1520 and love it. Minor fitting change but made it work.
SIDE NOTE: I wired the switch HOT all the time so that with tractor OFF I could dump the pressure anytime.
Thanks, hopefully doing this on a gen. 2 2025r very shortly
Lol, buy some wrenches
Jim
Awesome! Thanks for the great video and the previous one. I look forward to getting the Summit 3rd function and a grapple.
Good video showing what it takes to install the diverted. Thanks for providing the info on Summit as well. Great products.
I installed the diverter today. It looks and operates perfectly, thanks to your video. I also want to thank you for the 5% GWT discount. The 1025R kit was $522 out the door and worth every penny. Thanks again Cortney & Summit hydraulics.
Love your videos! Thanks for explaining everything for us old rookies!
Thanks for the video, I had been looking at Summit Diverters for some time but never pulled the trigger on the purchase because it wasnt an all inclusive kit. Once I watched this and i know I dont need to figure out the hoses once I have everything else on the tractor I just placed my order. Thanks for the GWT discount! Appreciate your videos, you and the other Green Tractor Guy have been very helpful since I got my 1025r.
Nice product and will definitely help a lot of people out for add on attachments . Two tees where the lines hook in for loader aux lines then add two more hoses with quick connects going too the back of tractor . For someone with no rear remotes it’s a bonus .Good demo 👍
I need one for a BX23s! Thanks for posting! I will be watching this and taking notes!
Hope it works out well for you!
I'm going to put one on a customer's tractor tomorrow. Thanks for the informative video.
Outstanding. Thanks for taking the time to make this video, so helpful
I appreciate it!
Thanks for the video. I have a grapple on my 3301 kubota and have used it constantly.
Yeah, they sure are handy!
Nice kit!! Mr. So I have a artillian kit it was about the same set up minus the control switch. The hoses in the front across the loader I have issues with rubbing. Watch those pretty close other then that I have had mine for a year. It never comes off lol. It is totally worth anything or cost or !! It's a great tool to have. The artillian company is an excellent company. But I like this kit as well!! Keep up the videos. Thank you
Love how simple it is for the price compared to factory but i would like to have seen them include protective loom or covers for the hoses to protect against rubbing
Great video! Great product! My wife caught me watching this and says you are a bad influence on me. Lol!
When I attempt things like what you did here, all goes wrong. Looks like you know what you are doing and you are not affraid to tackle these kinds of additions. Me on the other hand , I had the dealership install the factory thrird function for me. Good video .
Great video! The only thing that I would recommend is when you are cutting off the zip ties, use a flush cutter. If you use side cutters, they will leave a knife edge that cuts through skin quite easily.
Happy New Year !!!!
Use whatever tool you want good sir, you will get the job done just fine as always! Wonderful video and so helpful for new tractor owners! 👍🙂
I appreciate it sir.
Great video! Guess I will need to ck into this, now that I've watched you install, I understand much better how it operates. Hydraulics has never been my area of expertise.... LoL
This would be great. I've been patiently waiting for a cheaper 3rd function to get a grapple in the future!
Have fun!
Thanks I have a B2601 and am thinking about the diverter or a 3rd function valve and the cost, perfect timing. Great content.
Thanks! They make diverters for lots of tractors too!
Good channel! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Nicely done!
Thanks as always!
This is a great kit, although mine was missing 90 degree fittings on the medium size hoses. Ended up having to grab some at tractor supply
Some of my larger farm implements use diverter valves and it comes in handy just takes one spool off the tractor and i have it running 5 different functions all in toggle switches . And i did most of it myself biggest cost being stacking valves for each function and getting the wiring right . One thing i been thinking of trying is adding a Muncie Clutch Hydraulic pump to a tractor for running a sweeper broom since its a severe duty job
Yeah, I got a multiplier to put on my 4066r. Can't wait to get it hooked up.
Can’t wait to see the grapple video that’s for the install video I want to get a grapple
Coming soon!
💥 I love how easy they have it laid out. Looks like a caveman could do it.
*Keep on tractoring!* 👍
Great video, thanks. One concern - would installing this on a new tractor affect the warranty at all?
I added one of these to a 3025e with a D160 loader. There is only one way the hydraulic circuits will work, and it results in the control handle go what would be the intuitive movement. In other word, to clamp down with the grapple, you have to move the dump direction. Reversing hose results in the grapple locking up. I studied the hydraulic circuit and determined there are check valves that keep the bucket from falling in the event of a blown hose.
I also had trouble with the grapple losing its grip on the load. I finally purchased the full third function valve that works off the power beyond circuit. That works great. I’m about to try the diverted valve again on a 5300 with a 540 loader. Not sure the check valves exist on it since the loader is hosed to the 2 rear SCV. Wells see.
Nice job 👍
Thank you for this
Thanks for watching!
If we need the several extra rear hydraulic connections in the rear anyway, is there any way to tie into that bank of outlets then route the front hoses about the same way with quick disconnects to hoses routed to the rear? I’m a little hung up on how the electrical would tie in but is it possible that a three position toggle (pinch/off/release) could be placed almost anywhere such as on the steering wheel eliminating the new joystick and sacrificing the ability to tilt and pinch/release simultaneously?
Whew that was a mouthful but I have a root grapple on order and have about a month to figure this out. BTW I’ve got the newer large frame 2038R with backhoe. Nice videos and thanks for any advice!
I've got a diverter kit for my 1023. It went on pretty easy. The hardest part was running the wires and keeping them out of the way and secure.
Absolute best part; after my wife has been running the grapple for a little while, I'll swap the two line on the front of the loader so the grapple will open instead of close. Ah, the puzzled look on her face, priceless.
Haha, never gets old?!? 😂
So does it work with 2020 1023e with 120r loader?
@@Jorgemartinez-qo6yq You're asking about the diverter kit. It works very well with my 1023e and 120r loader.
@@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962 thank you
A piece of shrink tubing should have been put over the butt splice to waterproof it. Happy New Year from MA!
Good idea. Happy New Year!
Thank you Sir!
A great addition to your tractor. If I could change one thing, I would like to see more attention to the required lenghts of hoses provided. Seems that they are just a bit too long at least for the 1025R.
They have asked for feedback on this. I'm undecided. Some have stated it's too long, some state it's not an issue.
I am almost done with this installation on my 2016 1023e and was glad I found your video. I agree it would be nice if the hoses were labeled, but they do reference them by length so not to hard to figure out. All I have left to do is the electrical connections and one thing that I did to make the positioning of the joystick handle correct was to buy a 10mm x1.5 nut and thread that on the loader control first then I could position the joy stick and tighten both fittings together. Basically double nutting. Less dangerous than possibly over tightening the fitting that came with the kit.
Thanks for your contributions,,, Bill
I have a 2020 1023e with120r loader. Will it fit?
@@Jorgemartinez-qo6yq I believe it will. The kit is actually for a 1025r. But you have to select which loader you have. Pretty sure the only difference is in one set of hoses. You can always reach out the technical support folks at Summit if you are concerned.
@@TheSmalljob thank you. Both 1023e and 1025r have the r120 loaders.
Great video. Just what I've been looking for! Question: After doing the install, what's your opinion of doing the first part with the loader off the tractor and then hook it back up to do the electrical part and joy stick? It seems like it would give better access routing hoses and hooking up connections
I thought about that, but I'm not sure how things would be affected on the hydraulics side when lines are split apart and then trying to get all the hoses oriented correctly with the loader off the machine. It wasn't too bad with it installed I guess.
Question?? Where did you get the wiring part that connected straight into the fuse box?
Where do I get those bolt on shoes for my loader bucket, so it doesn't dig in while plowing snow?
Nice video. Thank you. Would it be possible to flip the solenoid 180 clockwise to get all hydraulic hoses on the side you would assume they would go on?
Maybe, but Summit doesn't think it would fit correctly that way. Never know, could find a better way in the future.
Would this kit work for a JD tractor without a "power beyond" hydraulic system. Specifically a 3203 series with a 300 loader.
Thanks,
I have the 1025r, which clamp would you recommend with this diverter?
Appreciate the info ! Thx !!
You betcha!
@@GoodWorksTractors oh fyi....i plowed 2" of ice slush and water...and i did NOT use my bucket.....LOL 😆
Haha, GOOD!!!!
Can you get this kit for other tractors other than John deer ?I have massy Ferguson 1835.
I bought the Worksaver electric grapple for my JD 2305, but have already gone through 2 linear actuators - they shear internally very easily if you overload the grapple by tugging or pulling on a log, etc. Have you found using a hydraulic grapple with the Summit third function diverter kit to be more resistant to failure? I would assume the hydraulic cylinder would only fail if you bent it?
forgot to ask how is the electronic side of the Summitt in the Rain and Snow? Is the 3 prong electric module water tight?
Good question. I'm not sure the answer. Will have to find out.
I've been looking for a cam-style connection up front for my third function connectors like you showed around the 2:52 mark. Can you let me know where you found that?
Check out Faster Hydraulics, they are the company that makes single points.
Already ordered the Summitt diverter but need to ask . How will this fit with the original cab ?
Good question. I haven't installed on a cab. Might want to ask Summit about that one.
I don't have a tractor that I can use this on but if I did I would definitely would use this .
Thanks for watching!
I am with you. I am hoping to buy one 2022
What do you have to do if you want to use the bucket again
Don't belittle yourself, Courtney. I've seen techs with decades of experience not as meticulous as this was done.
I have a John Deere 2305 and called summit, they said they can't reassure me the kit will fit my 200cx loader. But Artillian's kit does fit the 1025 and 2305. So I think I'll take a shot and order the Summit kit assuming if it fits the 1025 it will fit the 200cx loader. My only concern is which adapter for the joystick will work. I love the Summit kit, it looks so well made and also really like the joystick handle and light on the diverter when it's activated. Thanks for the wonderful video. Your thoughts please????
That would be my only real concern is the adapter for the joystick. I am not familiar enough with the different options nor how your handle is mounted to the loader joystick to give a good recommendation unfortunately.
I was also considering the Summit for my 2305 JD tractor. The only concern I have is with the Joystick handle. Without tearing up the current soft rubber grip, need to know if it screws on or it is a slip on type with glue.
Courtney
When disconnecting the loader besides disconnecting the hydraulic hoses, not sure what electric needs to be disconnected. Looks like the wire going into the fuse box and the wire harness to the diverter. Is that correct?
Gary
Only the grey electrical connection. So, one additional connection compared to normal. Piece of cake. No messing with the fuse panel.
excellent video and information. thank you for all you do. i appreciate it. this effort is why you are earning my business and you can earn my loyalty after we do business with your customer service, which i would think will be excellent also. thank you again good works.
Very kind of you, I appreciate it!
Does the 1025 run 1/4" hoses and couplers or 1/2"? I have an deere x7xx HDGT I'm in the works of making the summit kit work on, however the 45 loader I have has 1/4" hoses whereas the diverter takes 1/2" - not sure if running smaller hoses creates any problems.
I don't know, guess I'd have to look at the hoses closer. Never needed to replace one. I think the fittings are all 1/2" if I recall, so would think the hoses are too?
@@GoodWorksTractors Gotcha, thanks for the info. I guess I'll try running with it and hope for the best. Really excited to put a grapple on lol
It looks like a good kit. Not sure what the price is. I added a John Deere 3rd Function SCV to my 2025R. I know Deere makes a kit for the 1025R too but don’t think they have one yet for the 2032R/2038R. I paid $1025 for my Deere kit and did the install myself. My dealer mentioned 5 hours to install it; I have probably 15+ hours in it. The Deere kit is not a diverter but has an up or down switch in the end of the loader control joystick. I’m not knocking the Summit kit; it looks like a great kit for the budget minded and it will do the job for those unwilling to fork over the Deere price. I would like to point out that for the difference in price, the Deere kit has a cleaner install. Just two additional quick couplers below the right floorboard, less lines hanging on the loader frame, the SCV itself is hidden under the tractor instead of the diverter hanging on the loader frame, the quick connects on the front of the loader frame don’t have lots of extra hose to catch on anything and all the electrical neatly routes from the joystick under the fender/floorboards and hooks on the existing electrical block on the engine side of the firewall. The Deere kit also includes hard lines as opposed to rubber hoses that follow existing hard lines with standoffs on the loader frame. With the Deere kit, prepare to take a lot of the tractor apart to install it and take your time. As Courtney said, if I can put it on (the Deere kit that is), anyone can do it. For me the other alternative was an Artillian diverter and it was $740 plus the push button control knob for another $90 making it almost a toss up for me between it or the Deere kit. WR Long also makes a 3rd Function SCV too, not a diverter and while it seems equally as complicated as the Deere kit, it is somewhat cheaper. Look at all the options before you purchase.
I had the dealer add JD auto throttle and JD front third function before I took delivery of my 2025R. I know service thought I should have been charged more than I paid. I took it back and made them run the loader lines like the directions indicated. I would have to do some digging to find out what it cost me.
Thanks for the info. On the 1025R, a 3rd function SCV does not have big advantage over a diverter since it does not have adequate flow to run both simultaneously anyway. But having hoses and wires tucked away better is a big advantage in my book.
I agree. The cleaner the installation the better.
@@terryluebbe2560 That has changed, you can get a kit from HydroPlus to increase flow. Allows multiple functions.
Channel locks on a flare nut, get a crescent man. Thank me later
What is the difference between the kit you featured on the video and the other diverter kit Summit Hydraulics sells part # DV50-08-J1-AG14? I'm interested in purchasing a kit for my 2019 1025r and then purchasing a grapple.
You'll want to talk to the good folks at Summit about that.
When adding a diverter, do you need to add hydraulic fluid if your hooked up with a grapple?
If you’re adding additional space to the hydraulic system, then it will require additional fluid. Let everything cycle a few times. Turn the tractor off and let cool down. Then top off as needed.
There is a 3rd function kit on Amazon for a 1025r and it’s a full third function with two buttons not just a diverter the cost is $425. That would be something cool to make a video on too
You mean the universal kit offered by Summit? I think that's a bit different, but have heard good things.
@@GoodWorksTractors yes it would be interesting to see it because it’s not a diverter it’s a 2 way valve
Great video. Do yourself a big favor and buy a set of combo wrenches. A good set is not very expensive.
I'm always looking for donations!
I put my on and now I have one hose leaking.what do I need to do???
Would this work on my 3033R cab model? Thanks.
Probably not this specific model, but they should have a model that fits. Reach out to them directly and see what they can do. Don't forget you can save 5% with code GWT!
@@GoodWorksTractors Thank You.
How about removing the loader before the install? Would probably make it a lot easier to run those lines without having to work behind the loader arms.
Thought about it, but I was just following the instructions.
Any difference other than price between this and the Artillian system?
Not sure.
As far as I can tell the Summit is less expensive, and does not come with a cap for the electric plug...Other than that very close.
Add in the Single Point connect kit and that right side is going to be pretty cramped 😂
Have the Summit arriving tomorrow, looking forward to creatively fittings it on with a SP....Might have to craft a bracket. Do not want to mount it on the outside of mast.
I went to summit hydraulics and found the third function kit but it did not come with any hoses. Trying to add this to 2021 2038R. What is the item/model number??
I'm not sure, I'd contact them direct to confirm.
Is it possible to also run a rear remote off of this diverter?
Definitely. Instead of running the hoses down the loader, run them to the back of the tractor.
They offer an additional universal diverter kit that could be combined and wired on a seperate toggle switch to activate.
Thanks so much! I already have the diverter for my grapple but want to add a rear remote for a hydraulic top link.
Thanks for the great videos and information!
I assume say install if you have the quick connect just need shorter hoses?
I'm not sure what you mean?
@@GoodWorksTractors Sorry Deere/Faster single point connector on my 1025R H120 loader.
I did not explain that well.
Oh, yeah, probably just shorter hoses.
@@GoodWorksTractors great videos keep it up.
So my question.... What would be different between the 1025r kit and say a 2038r?
You'd want to talk to the guys at Summit about that. I haven't installed on a 2 Series yet.
@@GoodWorksTractors welp so much for you knowing it all. You've let me down 😂 😂 😂
I took a look online and in the additional information sections it states “This kit is currently in the prototype phase”. Doesn’t make me feel warm and cozy if this is a prototype!
The custom components are simply hose lengths. The diverter has been around for quite awhile. It's just to note that you may get product improvements depending on when you buy.
@@GoodWorksTractors good to know. thanks!
Do they m6 a kit for a BX23S?
They might. You'll want to ask them directly.
Any reason you didn't run the new hoses in a protective sleeve?
Odd that they have the valves reversed from what would seem "normal". You originally connected them as I think they SHOULD be designed. Why wrap 4 hoses around the valve rather than going to the near side with shorter hoses?
Interesting that the quick couplers on my Mahindra are female on the hoses, the Deere are male. I don't know if there is a reason for the difference.
The new hoses wouldn't fit with how it's configured. That's the way the valve comes I guess, so that's the reason for the orientation.
@@GoodWorksTractors Could the diverter be turned upside down (with the solenoid pointing downward)? Then the looping of hoses would be avoided.
edit: Never mind - I just saw that this question was asked and answered further down in the comments.
Why not mount the diverter upside down? The hoses would then connect as you originally thought they should. I can’t imagine that the diverter cares what orientation it is mounted. Maybe you can ask Summit. Would make the new hoses even shorter.
Summit says it wouldn't fit correctly in that position. Could always try it.
@@GoodWorksTractors mom
You have a kit for a 5075e
They most likely have a kit for you. Contact them at www.summit-hydraulics.com. Save 5% with code GWT.
Will this work for a power angle snow plow also or don’t need it for that
Yep, would definitely work for that.
A few thoughts after watching the video, these hoses could all be shorter for a cleaner, less obstructed install. This is a good prototype though.
The 3rd function line going to the loader should be straight not looped around to face the other direction. It's just more hose to get caught on something.
Maybe. Need to have some flexibility in there. Hoses mount on opposite sides so if they are too short, then they might restrict flow at the bends.
I fixed the leak I had but now my grapple is barely working, like it will open slowly and will barely want to close?? Can you please help me out
I am not technical support. You will want to talk to Sunnit directly. I don't sell their equipment and cannot troubleshoot. Reach out to them directly.
17:06 Failed successfully hahaha
You might be better off using heat shrink on those wires next time. Lol
Do it on a L3901 lol
Kit is $599 on sale. Kubota quoted me $1k installed for their 3rd function. I’m still trying to figure out how I’d be saving $1,000?????
Sounds like you've got a cheap dealer, good for you. I guess $500 savings isn't worth it. Probably just take it to Kubota and have them do it :)
@@GoodWorksTractors I do need to order a uhmw or rubber for my plow. I know you always talk about saving on the shipping but I doubt there’s no way to save a few bucks there. I’ll need one 8’ in length.
Saving on shipping is if you combine items. Not really a way to save on shipping if buying one item though.
@@GoodWorksTractors 3rd function kit and a 8’ piece is 2 items Neil ;)
Haha, not from the same company. I don't sell the diverter kits. You buy those manufacturer direct from Summit.
Great video, if it is hooked to the bucket then how do you take off the bucket and hook up a front snow blower? I have a BX with a cab so would this work on mine? Sorry, had to ask, thank you.
You disconnect the quick couplers like you normally would. Just one extra quick disconnect for the electrical. So, only one extra connection required for disconnect.
Would this work on my truck?
No, don't think so.
@@GoodWorksTractors ok, I was thinking about putting a plow on my truck and don’t want to have a 4 way lever. I was thinking about having a 2 way and just using that diverter to change flow from loft cylinders to the tilt cylinder
Do you use tape in your fittings like in plumbing?
No
Why not take the bucket off?
Feel free
hehe i have seen people crimp those blue connectors allot of odd ways but watching you do that made my head hurt do yourself a favor spend $10 on a crimp on wire connector crimper. save you allot of headaches down the road.
Crimp it anyway you want... Solder it after and heat shrink it. Crimping is just bad news.
Cringing every time you put channelocks on hex fittings. Please invest in some wrenches, hmm?
Still waiting for someone to send me those wrenches???