WHAT HYDRAULICS DO YOU NEED ON YOUR TRACTOR?
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- čas přidán 21. 02. 2024
- Tractor Hydraulics: It's a confusing world with terms being used interchangeably that shouldn't be. Rear remotes, 3rd Functions, Diverters, Multipliers, Power Beyond. We'll walk you through the parts of a tractor that uses hydraulics and give you an overview of the terminology so you can be confident when evaluating a tractor for purchase on just what it has, what it can do, and what it's worth. We'll also cover how to add hydraulics yourself and what attachments rely on hydraulic functions.
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Brief Descriptions of Common Tractor Hydraulic Components:
3rd Function Kits: These are most frequently added to a tractor to control a loaded mounted grapple or an angling snow plow. Something attached to your loader that has a hydraulic cylinder that needs to be controlled. Typically, you'll push a button on your loader joystick to operate.
Rear Remotes: These are found on the back side of the tractor, generally mounted somewhere above the 3-point hitch. The control is usually a lever that is mounted on the left or right side of the operator station. These hydraulics can be used to connect and operate a hydraulic top link, hydraulic side link, or hydraulic functions found on attachments such as a hydraulic angling blade or hydraulic chute rotation on a 3-point snowblower.
Hydraulic Multipliers: Many times, one rear remote isn't enough. If you have a hydraulic top and tilt kit plus a rear attachment that has one or more hydraulic functions, then you can quickly run out of connections! A hydraulic multiplier turns one rear remote into 2, 3, 4, or 6 rear remotes. You can buy the size you want based on your needs. It is a hydraulic valve block with solenoids and switches (mounted on the operator station). By selecting a switch and then using your normal rear remote lever, you will operate that function.
Power Beyond: Power Beyond is a type of open-flow hydraulic circuit. This means that when you connect hoses to these hydraulic outlets, the hydraulic fluid will freely flow through the lines. Whereas on a 3rd function or rear remote, you control the operation with a button on the loader joystick or a lever on the operator station, Power Beyond doesn't have controls. Instead, the attachment that is plugged into Power Beyond has these controls. The most common example of this setup is a backhoe. You mount the backhoe to the back of your tractor, connect the hydraulics, sit on the seat, and use the two levers on the backhoe to control the hydraulic functions.
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This video is for entertainment purposes only. Good Works Tractors (Good Works Lawn & Power, LLC) cannot be held responsible for content found in any video. Always reference your owners manuals, use extreme caution, and proceed at your own risk.
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Your back? Praise the Lord. My wife's been complaining to much. Your videos allow me to dream and spend money on attachments. 😀😀😀
Good to see you back. I was beginning to think youtube kicked you off for some unknown and incomprehensible reason that makes no sense whatsoever..
Welcome back! It looks like there were others that missed your videos.
Great to see you back Courtney hope everything is good with you all. Hope to see you getting back to your videos watch every one.
I like your reasoning for having 6 functions, it is always good to have options.
Wow! As a Hydraulicsman in the Marines during the 80's this is one of the best hydraulic videos ive seen and maybe the best tractor hydraulics videos on youtube.
Awesome to hear, appreciate it sir!
Glad to see that you're finally back to releasing videos! You've been gone for what, about two months? I've been missing all of that information that you put out!
One of the better explanations of hydraulic function. Helped me understand what I want to do with my tractor. Thank you.
I have a compact tractor for yard work, and I bought a hydraulic top link a couple of years ago, thinking it would save me some time and effort adjusting the angle of attack for my rear blade. I had no idea how useful I would find it. It makes it much easier changing implements; it makes it much easier to use implements. I use it about 4 or 5 times as much as I thought I would. It's super useful. I can remember thinking "do I really need it?" Now I would simply hate to have to go without it. I've thought about having a diverter too...maybe I will have another look.
Glad you've returned. Learned a lot. Thanks
Really glad to have you back online with videos! I was thoughtful enough to have my dealer include the 3rd function at purchase and while I haven’t pulled the trigger yet on that grapple I want…I don’t regret the cost amortized over the life of my tractor. Really looking forward to some of those Kioti videos you had been promising.
Great tutorial. Layman's terms. Thank you. I have WR Long third funtion. It broke and they offer no help.
I called Summit Hydraulics and they were very helpful.
Great company To be connected with!!
Welcome back. I watch all of your videos and I missed seeing them. I throughly enjoyed watching your video thanks
I must be an exception, I take my loader off all the time. But I also mow with my 2038R with my mmm. I also find it handy to not have the loader on for running the brush hog, grader box and other variety of jobs! I have 2 factory rear remotes as well as the loader and 3rd function. Glad your back!
You aren’t the only one. Can’t beat going loader-less if working in tight areas or rough ground. I’ve not working around loader arms for basic engine service too.
Welcome back and a great video for your return!!!
So glad you’re back, your videos make my day.
Glad to see you back Courtney. Great video. Lots of information.
I was lost without your videos!
Last year I watched many of your videos to learn and compare tractors. I ended up buying a JD 3035D with front loader bucket, fork lift and root grapple. The Dealership did work with me since I bundled the tractor and implements. The root grapple has been my number one tool and bucket the least used tool improving the farm. The fork lift has already helped pay for itself shipping large items directly to my home. The fork lift has many purposes without the need for a pallet, hoist, remove a large engine for instance.
I'm going to get the top link for the rear, you proved it would help scrapping and using a box blade on unlevel ground. Of course I'll need the SCV's, lines and ports. I live in a hilly area so adjusting the top link manually has to be done often for good results, PIA. Thank You and your team for all the educational videos, they really help educate, enlighten and hopefully reduce the costly and deadly mistakes to owning and using tractors.
I am glad you are resuming your videos. I’ve missed your tractor lessons. The ideas you present have an impact on your viewers. Whether you’ve discussed tractor safety, tractor hydraulics, tractor accessories, and maintenance. You’ve got my attention. If you keep making videos, I’ll keep watching them. Your friends from Highgate, Vermont.
Options are good. Especially when talking about hydraulics. Thanks for the explanation. Welcome back. Obviously, a lot of us missed your videos.
Good to see you back on! I missed your videos lately.
Nice to see you back. Something I like about using power beyond is the proportional control it gives the operator.
Glad to see you creating content and posting again.
Great video, very informative.. Glad to see things are going well, and to see you selling lots of tractors again!
Great!! You’re finally back! Looking forward to seeing your next video
Awesome video, Courtney! Excellent description of the various types of hydraulics and options. I recently had the 4 port Summit Hydraulics kit w 3rd function and 3 additional rear SCVs added to my 2038r and I love it. Hydraulic top link is indispensable too. Thanks again for the great video and keep up the good work!
-Rob Van Gorder, Binghamton NY
I take my loader off all the time to give me more room to make turns near trees when doing tillage work.
Yahoo! Glad you're back.
Thanks for the hydraulics information.
Deere had a diverter valve kit that ran a top ‘n tilt kit with the loader joystick. That worked pretty well and there was no need to setup a tractor (especially a smaller machine) with 6 SCVs.
Also, some PTO chippers could utilize a power beyond kit instead of having their own pump and reservoir.
glad you're back
I was getting worried about you. Keep the videos coming!
Welcome Back!! Missed you
I like your Mike Roweesk delivery and mannerisms. Very entertaining esp for educational content. Thanks
Useful information, thanks Courtney.
Solid educational video Courtney. Lots of good information.
man it is good to see you back!
Howdy stranger! Nice to see you back. A lot of good information in this video
Hi Courtney, glad to have you back. love your videos. I am in the market to get a tractor around the end of the year. Your reviews on the Kioti are pointing me in that direction.
Good to see you back!!! 😅
Good to be back :)
I take the loader off my 100 horse chore tractor regularly during summer for doing hay so it’s out of the way for turns by fences and less compaction then put it back on to pick up the bales when finished for that cutting in the field. Also if something fails and the is designed for quick removal the loader can be removed a lot easier in undesirable locations provided you have extra hoses, some boards for the legs to set on if on ground where it can sink, and a second tractor which saved me a huge hassle when cleaning up in my woods before. Even if I planned on keeping the loader on 99% of the time the quick attach saved me once and the local dealer doesn’t charge labor for loader removal on repair bills if it’s a quick connect
Great video. Tons of useful information. Keep em coming !
Wow, you’re back! I thought you called it quits. I went back and looked at a few of your latest videos thinking I missed something being said about quitting CZcams. 🤷🏼♂️
Welcome back 👍🏻
Hey Courtney, nice informative video. Thank you. Been thinking of doing a QA bucket on my L35 so I can have a grapple.
I've missed your video's. All the best from Greensboro NC. LS comes with two rear remotes.
I ordered my JD with a true third function. It was my first tractor. Had I known I would have ordered all the hydraulics available.
great job ty
On the Kioti CK series (cabs only) you get 2 set of hydraulics. One is for your normal hydraulic function while the second hydraulic port is essentially the power beyond because the handle for that port has a detent which keeps it engaged. The front loader handle on the new CK 20 series already has the 2 buttons and is pre-wired for a 3rd function kit.
Interesting , Thank You
I don't have any need today for the extra hydraulics, but it just looks like fun to install them.
Welcome back guys!
Technically. I put on a 3rd function. But put extra lines to the rear so that my rear top link works off my 3rd function . Handy handy super duper handy.
Top link by far! Went from something I wanted to try to something that I can’t live without. Now I’m thinking about that multiplier for possibly the tilt??
I personally prefer the diverter valve option for the grapple control for the loader as opposed to the true third function option. By diverting the flow of the second function to use for grapple control you have the ability to feather the grapple function speed. But when using the third function kit It is either full flow or off, there's no way to feather the hydraulic flow and it makes it very erratic control. I find very few instances when there's a need to actually roll/curl functions and the grapple functions at exactly the same moment.
We installed the Summit diverter valve kit on a John Deere 4520 compact with 400 loader. We use it for both the grapple and front mounted pusher blade with power side angle for snow removal. Very happy with it. When we originally acquired the tractor it was using the rear remote for the third function control on the loader and that was virtually unusable as you so accurately described when showing that option on the one John Deere tractor.
I've been wondering when you were going to post another video!
Welcome back
Good and timely topic for me right now. I think I might have damaged the hydraulic pump on my new Kioti CK2620SE by lifting IBC totes full of water. I just contacted Summit Hydraulics to see if they have a replacement pump for it and whether I can upsize it by 2 or even 4 gpm?
Welcome back.
Great video to start off with. Now really do a video on what hydraulic lines that people are really supposed to tap into to add all of the different functions. John Deere, Kubota all have different lines to tap into to add these functions but no one really explains that.
I have a 2000 Kubota and the line runs are different than the new styles. So, I'm trying to figure out how to make some rear remotes work.
Very informative video.
Makes me want to spend money.
Wow, you went full kioti, I think it was a smart move.
Great video to make a return with.
Love your videos. I've been dreaming of a hydraulic top link on my orange L3201, You've got me getting more serious. I currently have a 3rd function that is routed to the front for a grapple. I don't have a grapple, nor do I ever expect to need one for my little Hunting lease. I'm contemplating robbing the 3rd function up front and simply running lines to the rear, While leaving the "Future grapple" lines in place. Tractor had a backhoe in the past and the bracket and actual connectors are still there. Any reason this wouldn't be a cheap, easy way to add a hydro toplink with only the cost of the top link and two hoses? (The 3rd function button is already there and working).
Not throwing a monkey wrench into your great video explaining fluid dynamics, but the older tractors, like a Super M, had a single hose system. In other words, power up and gravity down for pull behind mowers or barge type grain wagons.
Dude you've been gone for awhile
Good to see you back!
I installed rear remotes on my Massey 1742 so I could install a top and tilt set of hydraulic cylinders. Waited until I had the remotes installed before ordering the cylinders from Summit Hydraulics. WTH. 2 months back ordered. Won’t be available until August.
Hot commodity! :)
Finally!!! I thought you were snatched by Aliens looking for ways to play their planet. Good to see ya!!
Miss the videos!!
WELL Well well look what the cat dragged back to CZcams😂
what tubing and fittings for straight runs and connection to hoses. can i make hyd hose with those barb fittings and 2 HD stainless claps
I just checked Summit Hydraulics for a top tilt kit for my Kioti CK2610. The estimated ship date is in the middle of Sep! I wonder why so far out for what looks like pretty standard components?
I just put a top link on mine. I think they are still designing the side links though. The Kioti tractors have a clevis on top for the side link, different than Deere and some others.
A question on the multiplier selector switch... Does it have any "logic" in it so that only one circuit on the multiplier can be active at any given time, or could you, most probably accidentally, actually activate multiple circuits at the same time?
No smart logic is as far as I know...I've never had multiple circuits activated at the same time though. That could get interesting!
What are your thought on adding a diverter valve to your true third function to control a hydraulic skid steer quick connect?
Would be pretty slick!!
which summit kit do you use for the DK series?
“He does exist!”
Out of curiosity, was your extended absence explained by having your boot and lower leg removed surgically from the lower intestines of someone over at JCB??? I know that would be the case if I had the same experience you had described on two separate pieces of brand new equipment you had bought.
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If u r not using the loader it is hard on the front end for no reason and will wear out your loader faster that why it a good idea to take off the loader if u r not using it
I have TYM 574 dealer installed third function
Third function does nothing when loader is in use is this normal ?
That is correct, the 3rd function is just hanging out while using the loader functions.
I want a tractor so bad. Don't have the land to justify it though ha!
This not about hydraulic. Do you have a single hitch plate for a skid steer with a trailer hitch. Just one that you can use on one side or the other side thank you. Can you post the type please
Dont most remotes have a detent that turns it into power beyond?
Service Control Valve
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the correct term for your "SCV" is spool valve....and a third function is a valve that diverts the output of the spool valve, either electrically or manually.....nothing complicated in hydraulics, dont make it sound so, your calling things 1st,2nd, 3rd, etc functions is totally incorrect, they are called circuits, and each circuit is controlled by a spool valve, and each circuit can have a 3rd function valve in it
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You need that many to operate the AI robot which pushes your tractor.
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As clear as mud ??
If only we could get just a couple standard types of fittings instead of the giant mess thereof.
you should not call any body a dummy some don't like it
"PromoSM" 😃
Please stop using a swish or whack sound when you put an info slide onto the screen! It is super annoying.
You need to stop making CZcams videos.
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I'll keep making them just to annoy you. Thanks for the motivation :)
@@GoodWorksTractors Oh, it doesn't annoy me, you're just not good at it.
@@55afishead 😂
@@55afishead gotta love the bravery of anonymity
Can’t wait to get my new tractor from you folks, especially after seeing it in the video! 😎🥹🤩
I think is sad and wonderful that you break this down to such basic things and terms.
I grew up on a farm and can’t believe how little the average American knows about things so that’s the sad part.
The wonderful part is given that fact, you have taken the time to break this down so ANYONE that should be near equipment at all, will understand things from the basics on up.
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Remember that there are billions of things you know nothing about as well. Go find something new and learn about it. The goal should be to never stop learning, always gaining more knowledge. The folks watching this video are getting smarter.
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