Female armor: Fantasy vs Reality

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Was Historical medieval female armor at all similar to how it is often depicted in fantasy art?
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[@shadiversity]

A good number of viewers have claimed female armor made to emphasize two separate breasts would be hugely detrimental as it would direct incoming strikes to the sternum, yet still I feel this objection is a little short sighted. If there is a potential problem it’s not too hard to think of a solution instead of just saying it can’t be done.
As many have pointed out, an even dome over the woman’s bust to emphasize the female form like the picture at 12:06 wouldn’t have this potential problem, it’s still be properly angled to deflect strikes and look feminine.
But what two separate breast sections?
Firstly people rarely ever strike against the metal plates of armor in historical combat because *it’s hardened steel metal plate!* Some people seem to think a cavity in-between two shaped breasts in armor change this, remember it is still hardened steel with padding underneath and only the largest of strikes from something like a poleaxe would endanger it, just like regular armor regardless of breast domes. Most strikes will still be aimed at the gaps in armor, not the chest. sword strikes are particularly useless against steel plate regardless of the deflection capacity of the armor.
Second, the cavity in between each breast need not rest flat on the chest, in fact it can sit rather high with a peak right in the middle of the chest that would redirect those blows directed into the middle up over the chest or down and of to the side. There are sophisticated designs that can mitigate any potential problem of strikes being caught in the middle.
Third, even if two breast sections aren’t as effective as an even dome over the chest, people have sacrificed a little functionality for aesthetics quite a lot through history (metal codpiece armor primary example as well as the muscle breastplates made from Greece). Remembers it’s not nearly as earth shattering a weakness as some imply, the armor would still work very well in protecting the wearer, it is still hardened steel!

[@newrecru1t]

Of course, all this is well and good Shad...
But what about Dragons?...

[@Zergonapal]

I agree, but when it comes to molded breastplate does the blacksmith need to take the woman's measurements into account? Is a well endowed woman at a disadvantage because there is less room under the chestplate?

[@kairosacademy7609]

Please do a follow up video on it if possible... There's a lot of questions that still come up

[@fbalter]

I could see it happening, specially if representative of earlier designs and armor tech, such as the equivalent of Greek bronze armor, or if it's more cerimonial armor, but the better armor would probably a avoid the breasts being too much of two discrete bulges, and more likely to be a single bulge, maybe with some detailing and discreet differences in "altitude" to suggest two instead. The sides might be more prominent, at a higher inclination than strictly ideal, but I really find it doubtful that late, purposefully designed, rigid armor would really go for what would essentially be guide rails for a solid hit in a likely to be hit area such as the torso that would be two breasts.
I mean, let's avoid swords because they aren't going to cut unless the armor is really shitty, but a mace or hammer in a glancing hit on the inside of breast would become a solid hit on the center of the upper torso, while without the two discrete bulges, it'd, well, actually glance of and transfer a lot less energy to the fighter.
Of course, not all armor might be made to sell to dedicated warriors too, specially in settings where "adventurer" is legitimate and potentially well paying profession.

[@gibbeldon]

I was wondering about two seperate sections for another reason.
The padding underneath would need to be accounting for that as well as the armor itself.
Which is something I don't see to be practical. When thinking about sport bras it appears to me that a flattend chest far outweights the trouble of creating fitting bust sections.
In my stories I would therefore tend to use a design like shown at 12:06.
However, I can imagine a design with two seperate breast sections being a splendid choice for cermemonial armor.
Or for a guard at court for example, who represents the prestige of some noble born.

[@TheSlammurai]

*Knight shows up to battle wearing boob plate*
*Takes off helmet*
*Its actually a guy who showed up late when all the men's armor was already gone*

[@Qaianna]

'My armour's in the shop so I had to borrow the wife's. She'll be mad if I get it bent up too.'

[@catoticneutral]

If I lived in a medieval world where female armor existed I'd wear female armor just to mess with people lmao

[@nothingunderthemask]

@@catoticneutral medieval trap

[@liquidacid1983]

@@catoticneutral If that is your goal then you should show up wearing boob plates AND a giant codpiece.

[@Monke-fj2qz]

@@nothingunderthemask Zounds! Thou est not a dame!

[@charaznable2859]

Female armour in real life : Full metal armour
Female armour in game : string

[@Helperbot-2000]

Ah yes, the only place possible to hit

[@charaznable2859]

helperbot 2000 yes impenetrable defence

[@Helperbot-2000]

@@charaznable2859 the strenght is unmatched

[@charaznable2859]

helperbot 2000 yes

[@Helperbot-2000]

@@charaznable2859 genious development

[@prophet6722]

Reality: The more you wear, the better defense you get.
Fantasy: The less you wear, the higher defense you get.

[@_peeblar_]

Its cuz their skin is rock solid man

[@DrYesorno]

bikini armor

[@zurdoaggresive]

straight male fantasy*

[@xandorian8242]

@Patrick Heneghan Full plot armor

[@marcosantonio-hj7vp]

in defense of bub armor i must remember that in greece and ancient rome they offer armors with the shape of an extremely outlined male body and they were functional and this is because the armor was not attached to the body like a piece of tight clothing so there was a "security space "where the armor could even sink without properly condemning the user in view of the shape, it is just an irrelevant aesthetic factor because having the safety space (as in the Greek abdominal armor) the sternum shape is easily contourable.

[@HalfAssDevil]

The old "bait and switch"
Title of the video "Female Armor"
Video contents: a lifetime supply of codpieces

[@stephtros9029]

my eyes werent ready...

[@razzaus1570]

I think they looked very fashionable.

[@HalfAssDevil]

@@razzaus1570 Sounds like small prick talk to me.

[@animentamaxarius3931]

@@razzaus1570 You're the one person who has the right to say you were born in the wrong era.

[@IsraelCountryCube]

@@animentamaxarius3931 LOL

[@darthdump5440]

Every fantasy game’s female armor: T i d d i e s
Dark souls female armor: N O

[@SwanTeeth]

That ain't gonna do shit you filthy C A S U L

[@aaronka1285]

@Brutal Beat *laughs in DS2 Desert Sorceress *

[@lordloaf7631]

smough has words for you

[@ZeldaLover6]

I like Elder Scrolls Oblivion armour.

[@hotshotroom964]

ZeldaLover6 smough kinda hot Ngl

[@griffinzink698]

Peasant: *sees knight*
Peasant: Oh damn, he thicc.

[@linked7835]

She thicc

[@TheSlammurai]

DAMN BOI

[@thelaughingcossack6521]

And I was like, damn Sire whatchu doin out here with all this ass?

[@Papa_Straight]

She* goddamn it

[@someotherworldlybeing3167]

@@Papa_Straight could be a dude

[@joshuasonnenberg4441]

I love how respectful he is.

[@lavendermarshmallowplant3229]

Yeah tru

[@laotse9655]

A true gentleman

[@Space_Drifter0621]

Don't forget humble and aprochable

[@natethornnstuff1783]

I love when he gets fired up enough that he's almost disrespectful 😂

[@kurosan0079]

@@natethornnstuff1783 Key word: almost

[@Satan-nw4lv]

Full body Armour: insta death
Armour just covering the boobies: arrows bounce off and blades deflected

[@Clammon_]

Bust*

[@asandax6]

There's a simple scientific reason for that. In Games everything is an Entity so it is treated like an Object whether its NPC and Player or Weapons so Weapons are actually conscious and Decrease their speed when they are about to hit or sometimes just turn around and avoid harming such a Majestic uncovered area.

[@buddha3209]

Sounds bout right

[@brwntwn123]

@@Clammon_ Titties*

[@act2wasstronger182]

Barely covering..

[@apierce4565]

So, armor is technically unisex?

[@iamnobody1734]

Yes, because everyone looks good in Plate and blood of ones enemies.

[@makeda6530]

Trying to stay alive is pretty unisex ( ･ิω･)ﾉ ิ

[@umjammerlammy9993]

"I need armor to protect me from fucking swords."
"Here u go m'lady sexy armor set for a queen."
"My abdomen and thighs are completely exposed, those are the most targeted places on the human body what is wrong with you?"
"Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh leageu of leg ends....hhhh"

[@nextlifeonearth]

Most armour worth wearing was tailored. A random person couldn't comfortably wear another's armour anyway. There might be armour tailored for a woman, but we simply don't know of each piece of armour we found whom it was made for.
The typical shape of the armour could fit your typical skinny medieval person, whether that person is male or female, but it's just incredibly unlikely a given piece of armour was tailored for a woman.
I would also like to add to Shad's point of why women wouldn't fight: women can actually birth the future and were regarded better caretakers in medieval times. Men were disposable.

[@games4us132]

as well as coffin

[@yourneighbour5738]

Random person: "Boob plates are unrealistic!"
Medieval codpiece: *"Hold my magnum dong"*

[@Helperbot-2000]

Medival danny devito

[@captnwinkle]

Jajajajajajaja

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

Your Neighbour | Problem is, one is harmless, the other actually makes armour worse. Armour is intended to deflect blows away from your important bits. Boob plate draws the force of blows directly towards the chest, thanks to the prominent cleavage.

[@yourneighbour5738]

@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth r/wooosh

[@Khornecussion]

@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth I mean, boobs are round and would promote glancing too, so uh... dunno. A woman's breastplate actually might be better for glancing a blow that would otherwise be rib shattering. Never know.

[@direlennear1246]

So, as a woman who used to wear armor while sword fighting, I thought I'd mention some things. First, my boobs were so strapped in that no one actually knew I had much of a chest until I wore non-combat gear. My boobs weren't lifted and separated during combat, they were squished as flat as possible to keep them out of the way, secure and comfortably immobile. The reasons for this were many but the most important were 1, having my boobs move around a bunch while fighting was extremely uncomfortable and 2, getting hit in the chest without my boobs compressed hurt like mad. I forgot to pack my extra high impact sports bra with my armor one time...one time. It'd be like forgetting your cup. You remember when you get hit in the groin.
All that being said, having two inflexible bulges on my chest would also be annoying in an arm mobility sense. I really wouldn't enjoy having additional impediments to my arm swing.
I knew several women who fought and none of them wanted to emphasize their chest. While there certainly were changes that I had to make to accommodate my female forms (wider hips, narrower shoulders, etc), my chest area was flat. I wore metal scale with a padded gambison underneath. Esthetically speaking, I felt I looked pretty bad-ass, just saying.

[@jakefett9503]

That makes sense.

[@luckylanno]

So a metal bikini never crossed your mind? Weird... 😅

[@berrypretty6305]

pics or it didn't happen

[@commander_razor]

that makes sense.

[@commander_razor]

@@berrypretty6305 what exactly do you mean by that?

[@ghazghkullthraka9714]

Henry’s plus-sized codpiece: exists
Me: Henry the 8th, you shall hensforth be known as Captain Compensation

[@deangullberry5148]

Just imagine being his squire....
"BOY, grab thine oils and polish my Dong Box!!"

[@ghazghkullthraka9714]

@@deangullberry5148 '"We must make sure that the most important part is highly protected!" Hey, one hit there and you're going down like a...sack...of bricks

[@Lyger101]

Wasn't that made that way because at the time Henry suffered from syphilis on his junk? That piece of armor was made when he was much older and after the injury that led to him ballooning up in weight.

[@sebastianthomsen2225]

LOL! 🤣😆

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

The smallest dick in history. Just saying

[@VinayMenon222]

"Is that a metal codpiece or are you just happy to see me?"

[@benjaminolsson2162]

Yes.

[@jasarigames4481]

Both

[@ledocteur7701]

@@jasarigames4481 exactly what I was thinking

[@chrissoup4683]

*ding 😏

[@Superknullisch]

@@chrissoup4683 OOOOHHH! Knew I would find this reply here haha!! Even though chances were only one in four!

[@thewatcher1499]

So, let me get this straight.
Fantasy armor = boob dents in the plate
Real Life armor= crotch bulge in the leggings.
Thanks Shad.

[@SleepyMatt-zzz]

I don't think they were intended to be worn into combat.

[@stevenn1940]

@@SleepyMatt-zzz On the other hand, do you think that they would make armor for their king that wouldn't actually function? I doubt a king would, say, lead a charge into battle, but worse comes to worst, it's going to need to function.
Besides, if it was easy enough to do (clearly not), most soldiers who could afford to, would have it. But from what I know about smithing in general, and armor smithing in particular...It would probably be expensive.

[@sualtam9509]

@@stevenn1940 It is probably jousting armour, since Henry VIII was in his youth a very strong and athletic man who participated in many tournaments.
Henry VIII lived after the era of the knights had already ended and well-trained foot soldiers with pikes and ranged weapons had already made the knight obsolete.
Non the less knighthood and chivalry became once more a very popular hobby of Renaissance upper class, including expensive suits of armour..

[@Xukti]

@@stevenn1940 "I doubt a king would lead a charge into battle" Hoo boy, John Hunyadi probably wished he could agree with you, with what he saw at Varna.

[@CynicalOldDwarf]

Or Richard the Third, there's a reason why King Charges stopped with him.

[@frooty9508]

Female armor IRL: Will protect most of the body
Female armor in anime and games: will protect their nipples

[@thecrazycatgentleman6188]

*JOAN OF ARC AND THE DAHOMANY AMAZONS HAVE ENTERED THE CONVERSATION*

[@sitharpy]

@Strike Striker so, a true asshat?

[@xmorte]

@@thecrazycatgentleman6188 Joan never actually fought in battle.

[@raycharlest.arcibal163]

True lmao in games even as simple as a skirt and the least breast covering armour gives my female characters tons of defense

[@erseshe]

Nah with how close they are to the nipple the friction of an unfortunately quick turn would chaff it right off.

[@melgozagonzalesjoshuajazie8981]

Imagine an RPG with a codpice slot

[@benjaminmoreau3560]

No, just no. Please. Don't give anybody ideas.

[@katyungodly]

Really surprised I haven’t seen any codpieces in RPGs now that you mention it 0:

[@eon6431]

Laughs in cyberpunk2077

[@Space_Drifter0621]

@@eon6431 That doesn't count that's advanced character design

[@theultraatomicgamer]

@@katyungodly Lol, If I was choosing what my cod piece design I will choose a skull design.
There’s meaning in it but I ain’t telling you that.

[@davos6129]

"This episode is sponsored by... this campfire"
*camera pans to campfire on the ground next to him*
"It keeps me warm when I can't pay my bills"

[@Nugire]

Well, you could also ask a dragon to keep you warm.
WHAT IS ABOUT DRAGONS?!

[@AroundTheCampfire]

"ORDER NOW TO RECEIVE *YOUR* FREE COMPLIMENTARY CAMPFIRE ALREADY BURNING WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT IN THE MAIL!"

[@zakd2124]

@@AroundTheCampfire Cool to see the advert company active in the Comments section of a video with its advert. Makes you guys seem more relatable and caring about the audience of the ad. Good on ya!

[@SymbioteMullet]

@@zakd2124 you could say they're focusing on their... Brand

[@jamesgarlick4573]

@@zakd2124 they just don't want to be confused with *A* *Campfire* because they are *The* campfire! Forever burning with the muse of the masses!

[@Outcrow]

I can’t believe schlong armor is the first historical fact I learned in 2019.

[@teamozOFFICIAL]

Long live SCHLONG

[@joshualim1339]

THE MORE YOU KNOW

[@Lavourrin]

"My schlong is my only weakness" - Achilles of medieval times.

[@kaiserwigglesiii2369]

It's more worrying that it's been 5 days since you've learned a single thing

[@OneQuackyBoi]

@@kaiserwigglesiii2369 he said "historical fact". people don't usually learn historical facts on a daily basis

[@sneklover69]

Just give female looking armor to the whole army and the enemy will stand still shooked

[@oncreativemode5486]

heck, just give everybody female looking armor

[@igfry]

The whole army would have rather fought without armour in that case lol

[@bloodemprince1337]

Seeing an entire army of planted units is generally very demoralizing XD

[@a.o.8527]

New title: shad being semi-uncomfortable for 14 minutes

[@neversharpenuff9274]

At least I know where saying "balls of steel" came from

[@saturnhaswings3617]

Oh my god

[@stillburninup]

Begone

[@TrenElZombie]

Sad duke nukem didnt like the use of armor

[@knightshade2654]

I didn't make that connection until this comment. Thanks for another fact that I can to sound smart.

[@lalhruaizelasailo6484]

👍😆🤣😁

[@miaugato93]

TL;DR
> female armor didn't exist cause they didn't need it so much
> IRL male armor looked pretty "modern female" at some point, minus the titty plate
> no titty armour was made, but SCHLONG ARMOR was definitely made.
> its all down to A E S T H E T I C

[@henriquepacheco7473]

SCHLONG ARMOR might just be my new most liked combination two words

[@edschramm6757]

i think the difference is breastplates were more or less already accommodating for the difference in form, but without the codpiece, you would have a gap in your armor, in, shall we say, a highly inconvenient spot, in particular for guys.

[@honchokomodo]

thank you very much

[@Icameron259]

"female armor didn't exist cause they didn't need it so much"
That's because their skin is already harder than steel, right? NGL, it would be kinda funny if that was the justification for the all too frequent trope of fantasy women warriors not wearing any armour, or much of anything else.

[@EidolonSpecus]

Thinking that armor design is "all down to aesthetics" is completely missing the point. Aesthetic liberties can be taken as long as they don't affect effectiveness. Codpieces don't affect the function of armor, but boob-plates and badly-tapered breastplates certainly will.

[@grimlock1440]

13:24 That young lady is King Arthur... yea, don't ask. I only will say that is Fate lol

[@hansy8406]

Artoria Pendragon. The Grand Saber.

[@elya_og]

saber holding the excalibur

[@nebsam7137]

Ah one of my favorite anime

[@headcaptainyamamoto7015]

@@nebsam7137 Sucks it was taken off netflix

[@a_tall_short_guy4706]

You could tell that at a couple of points he was trying his darndest to not be offensive.

[@AbaddonTheDestroyer]

Which is very weak.

[@mamavswild]

Victor The Defiler No, it’s decent.

[@AbaddonTheDestroyer]

@@mamavswild No, you are just beta bucks deluxe

[@asandax6]

@@mamavswild Not saying the truth as it is is not good but yeah he was very decent in his presentation.

[@caseyhullfish1345]

God, all i can imagine is someone hitting that chrome codpiece with a particularly resonant thwack

[@EraidFreefire]

And now I cant stop that running thru my mind while I laugh

[@nickparkyn3561]

Casey Hullfish “particularly resonant thwack” is the funniest phrase I have ever had the honor of reading or hearing in my entire life

[@localredbird621]

Gets hit in the Codpice: *B O O O N G G G*

[@thepip3599]

I can perfectly picture the noise. Thank you for this gift.

[@airhead1320]

The only time where the bell sound gag when getting hit in the nuts would actually happen.

[@sircharlesninefingers4170]

Can you imagine having to be the blacksmith who has to make the codpiece?
"Alright, here ya go."
"...Bigger."
"Come again?"
"Bigger! I need a magnum cod befitting my monster dong!!!"
-Blacksmith pauses and stares at Knight before turning and grabbing something off the table-
"Here ya go."
"...this is a thimble"
"Befitting."

[@mariobenedicto3582]

Follow up:
Knight: OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!

[@Shaymin0]

Whoops I dropped my monster condom for my magnum dong

[@mariobenedicto3582]

@Afqwa Interesting... but... did that work? I mean; the peasants sueing the kings?

[@sandman299us]

@@mariobenedicto3582 No it probably ended with the king having the knight wear the original codpiece and basically tell him to grow up, that is the best case, skilled blacksmith takes a long time to develop their skills, killing them over the inflated ego of one knight would be considered tragic at best, an absolutely stupid and ineffective use of manpower at worst. If they did that to one blacksmith, the other blacksmiths would simply pack the essentials and leave the kingdom as fast as they could. There are other people who would appreciate their talents, skills, and efforts.

[@Metalbass10000]

History is filled with despots, “royalty,” and, “nobility,” that wielded thier power with irrationality, emotional flare ups that rapidly brought about violence that many modern cultures would be horrified by. Yes, blacksmiths, especially knowledgeable, experienced, and skilled ‘smiths were valuable to those in power. But life was HARD back then, and most were powerless and often viewed by those in power as without any real value or importance. And to just pack up and leave was not an easy thing to do. Most people outside the ruling class struggled to feed themselves and their families (usually multi-generational households and particularly difficult to grab your stuff and go, even if you were fortunate, and wealthy, enough to own a cart to carry belongings, like very heavy ‘smithing implements, and raw materials, food, ale, because a lot of water was not drinkable with no sewage treatment AT ALL, and fortunate and wealthy enough to have a healthy and strong animal to pull the cart). There was also very little chance in those days of an entire group or class of people all rising up in defiance and unified reaction because of an irrational and senseless violent act like this. In the rare instances where this did happen it was the result of generations of cruelty, or the powerful stepping on and crushing the downtrodden and essentially powerless. History is filled, though to a lesser frequency of occurrence, of these events. They are called revolution. Beheading a single blacksmith would hardly spur a kneejerk reaction where the other ‘smiths just “walk off the job.” THAT, a blacksmith telling a “nobleman” and knight, whom were part of the small ruling elite class, that you’re walking off the job, which was hard enough to earn over years of servitude, because the irrational violence befalling another blacksmith... well, THAT would likely bring about a similar result as was the first blacksmith. Royalty in many of these cultures was ordained by God and the royalty was viewed in a very similar light, and to speak out against these ruling elites, let alone act against the ruling elites , was considered heresy and definitely punishable by death. We don’t even have to look deep into history to find horrific examples of power being wielded by irrational and explosively emotional outburst of extreme violence. Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, Haiti, Chile, Panama, the Philippines, Cambodia, in recent decades, have all provided examples of the powerful brutalizing, savagely, the populations they control. It’s nice to think about the people having power them selves, and the ruling class having to be attentive and responsive to those people‘s concerns, but unfortunately, the peasants and even skilled craftsmen and artisans did not wield anywhere near this level of power or influence. It’s nice to think that supply and demand would have some influence, and some ability of the people to keep the power of the ruling class in some form of checks and balances, but it’s not like a machinist, or carpenter, or modern day blacksmith or fabricator can walk off the job in one town and find other opportunities in that same town or down the road in the next town. They would have to travel great distances to find the next ruling class that would pay them for their skills and equipment and productivity. And there is no guarantee that when they travel to the next fiefdom that they would be even welcomed into that community. A member of a blacksmith guild in one population, controlled by ruling elites, May not be welcomed into the new blacksmithing guild. Like I said, these jobs were hard to come by, and if I am a blacksmith and a father of two boys that I am trying to bring into these positions of actual economic value, The blacksmith coming into my area is competition for my children or grandchildren, and represents one less opportunity for my family to hold those positions. So it’s a very nice thought, But one blacksmith losing his head because he insulted someone on a higher social strata, especially in such a personal way, may in fact have led to a quick slash of the blade and honor have been restored, but the other blacksmiths in that kingdom or fiefdom would be more concerned with keeping their own heads attached to their own necks then to stand up for justice for John Smith a mile from my front door. Oh, and guess who would be knocking at that blacksmith store looking to have work done? And he is probably not looking to negotiate terms, other than those he dictates... and he definitely wouldn’t have a good sense of humor.
Ok, enough stream of consciousness commentary. My thanks to any who read to this point, my apologies to those who for some reason choose to be offended by opinions whether backed by any evidence or none at all. It’s all just opinions and words. And my sincere apologies, for my misspellings, for my poor grammar, and for my apparent and probably needless verbosity.

[@darkstarmike85]

I know this comment is way late and bound to be drown out, but how did you miss Caterina Sfoza's armor? It's real, it's in a museum today, and she actually fought in it (at least once according to record).

[@nickvanachthoven7252]

just looked it up. its just regular armor.
one would say unisex in design.

[@darkstarmike85]

@@nickvanachthoven7252 exactly

[@gamdanyunizar7849]

Good addition to already mentioned Joan of Arc. Both wore regular armors.

[@TomorrowWeLive]

​@@darkstarmike85 so there's nothing specifically "female" about it. It's just armour.

[@darkstarmike85]

@@TomorrowWeLive What do you mean? It was made for a woman. Are you just disappointed it doesn't have breasts?

[@JohnBradford14]

If I have women in my army, I would really really really prefer my enemies NOT BE ABLE TO PICK THEM OUT OF THE GROUP.

[@thegreatozz3626]

well shit, that's a pretty good point

[@mr.hungryloser]

Custom armor would not be meant for rank-and-file troops. More generals and commanders. Most standard troops would get standard armor, meaning it would most likely be unisex for ease of production.

[@danielaramburo7648]

Maybe it’s an advantage. Some men might be uncomfortable hitting a lady, make their attacks less effective.

[@damianc669]

@TGDSHARK what does that have to do with this

[@undercover_matin]

@@danielaramburo7648 in real life, in war, when you are fighting for your life... worrying about hitting a woman is gonna be the least of your problems.

[@Ashadow700]

Wait...... wait wait wait, a video that is sponsored by something other then Skillshare, Brilliant, Squarespace or random mobile game #936?
WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?! WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO?!?!

[@Azaghal1988]

you forgot Audible. Still gave you a thumbs up ;)

[@treeigh]

You forgot dollar shave club

[@gregorclegane7563]

You forgot BetterHelp.

[@dustinm2717]

Also you forgot nordvpn (and a couple other vpns)

[@Heiwa_No_Shori]

and sponsored by something quite useful for a couple of us, for once

[@kendo2377]

The only suit of 'female' armor I've ever seen was in a Tokyo museum back in the 1990's. It was a 15th Japanese partial set and aside from the size it was almost indistinguishable from the male suits. I remember the card said something about a Samurai's wife wearing it.

[@hbleblanc205]

Intriguing. Something that comes to my mind, though, is the design difference between medieval knight armor, and medieval samurai armor

[@erikbjelke4411]

Shad: "Boob armor could be practical."
"This Is The Way."

[@SonsOfLorgar]

What! You actually mean to tell us that in an age where seeing a doctor with any kind of injury or ailment worse than a sprained ankle or a common cold was almost guaranteed to kill you rather than cure you, most people avoided circumstances more dangerous than their regular job if they could choose?
*I AM SHOCKED!, SHOCKED I SAY*

[@DZ-1987]

I mean... Medicine had to start at some point and we all know that starts are never usually smooth.
Lets say when people were testing the waters that is Medical science, people died.

[@LaPrincesseLointaine]

@Yevhenii Diomidov I think that's heavily dependent on upbringing and enviroment. Of course, no one *wanted* to get injured and die, but living in this enviroment and being taught like the war is a part of life, you'll probably be relatively okay with the thought in comparison to most modern day people.
Also, our current view of war is really influenced by WW1. As far as I understand, it REALLY changed social perspective on wars.

[@confidencial7964]

as far as i know these irregular armor where used by lords. they did not even went into battle

[@ailemoonstream7505]

it started in egypt and went through so much of a roller coaster. x.x

[@patriciusvunkempen102]

this is one of his worst videos and almost all he says is wrong or only half true , or he fails to understand that the middleages did end around 1500 and usualy the things he dhsoes are referred to as rennaissance or early modern equipement.....
it hurts just so much

[@tyguy6296]

I love how agreeable and positive this guy is.
So many of the the other youtubers in the historical arms community are so quick to basically shit on fantasy designs and write them off if they have even the slightest deviation from historical examples.
This guy seems to have a real love of fantasy and works really hard to focus on the good aspects of the designs without getting too worked up if a sword or shield has the slightest flaw or artistic embellishment

[@dango8284]

That's what it is, just... fantasy

[@Kaleestraza]

People shit on boob plate because it's a death trap. Armor was domed to deflect blows away from the sternum. Boob plate DIRECTS blows TOWARDS the sternum. Actual LARPers actually get injured when they're dumb enough to wear boob plate because it essentially forms an honest to God point that directs all force into the sternum.

[@Glaamdring]

Umm, that's because he has no formal education or knowledge on the subject and is basically just spewing conjecture out of his ass. Not a SINGLE legitimate source cited anywhere in the video. All of his videos are pretty just armchair-level monologuing.
"Boob plate" armor is unpractical and a great way to shatter your sternum.

[@andrewk4021]

@@Glaamdring UmM tHaTs BeCaUsE. Wait, no. You're spewing personal conjecture out YOUR ass, fuckface. "BoOb PlAtE wIlL sHaTtEr YoUr StErNuM lOl" Wow, let's think about that statement really quick, like lightning fast. So you take a typical domed armor chestpiece, doesn't have to be very domed (if you've looked at any real armor, ever,) and some add some light, hollow, tit shaped overlays on top... wow mind blown. 2:26 and 2:57 both achieve that. You'd have to be handicapped to not think of one, of the MANY ways this could safely be achieved. "BUT BUT" put a fucking stop rib there. I don't care.
YOU just don't LIKE it. IT is still FUNCTIONAL regadless of what YOU like. Fuck off.
Fucking dumbasses, man. MOMMY HE DIDN'T CITE SOURCES FOR SOMETHING A HANDICAPPED CHIMP SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONCEPTUALIZE.

[@andrewk4021]

@@Kaleestraza You need to reference my below comment, shit for brains.

[@PSDuck216]

Everyone must remember that the armor that we have in museums today with metallic codpeices were for parade or ceremonial dress. In the SCA decades ago, we were concerned about our female fighters being as protected as the guys. As Shad pointed out, the chest area in a cuirasse was merely enlarged so she could fit comfortably. The problems with "boob plate" is varied. Firstly, the boobs act as shot directors to the sternum, much like bad tank armor deflecting incoming shots to a weak area of the glacis (or where ever). Secondly, those rounded protuberances caught an incoming blow easily. Not good. Finally, if she fell face forward, and these things happen - even to men - the contact of the boob-plates would direct an increased force straight onto the woman's sternum. Bruising, cracking or breaking the sternum can possibly lead to death. If not death, the person is fully incapacitated from the pain and inability to breathe.
In my fantasy game, there is no "boob-plate" unless she wants it, custom made. Same thing for the ridiculous armored codpieces that protruded so far: custom made. Otherwise, wear a normal-sized piece of armor.

[@mamavswild]

Oh your right! I’m picturing falling forward with ‘boob armor’ lol and ow! My sternum hurts just thinking about it! Well that scratches out the idea completely right there!

[@vinny8589]

I always liked Saber's armor it's sensible.

[@liamfoote7164]

He made a followup where he addresses a lot of these statements.
czcams.com/video/6KHz0qWQA9I/video.html

[@Ori-ni4oe]

Man you know that in the past women didn't fight right?

[@PSDuck216]

@@Ori-ni4oe Oh? The Scythian kurgans' remains indicate differently, as do the new analyses if Viking age burials. In tribal situations, women can and did fight, some from choice. Only when centralized governments of large nation-states arose, did the necessity of female warriors decline or disappear.

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

Thank you, Shad, for keeping us abreast of this kind of information.

[@datdankdj8264]

Ah, clever

[@kechupsquid4530]

Anyone else watching in 1346, its great to know how my wifes armour is made

[@peachiichipchiii]

@1 lira dude, its a joke

[@pretzelking4618]

@@peachiichipchiii i think he's joking as well

[@dragonballiscool1653]

@1 lira ... no comment

[@nathanenos2322]

PRETZEL KING Lol he tried to r/whoosh but got r/whooshed instead

[@lordego414]

@@nathanenos2322 but he didnt do a woosh? So you played yourself...

[@thethinkingbeing9817]

My wife has been feeling down lately... *"BLACKSMITH!"*
"Yes, my Lord?"
*"I want you to forge the biggest cockpiece that has ever been known to mankind"*
Blacksmith: **stares in awe*

[@h5numbers732]

*a cod piece so long and thicc it can also function as a battering ram

[@TrunkMonkey3000]

Oh.... One of *those* wives.

[@yegor2]

@TGDSHARK what?!

[@dartfamily3409]

TGDSHARK what the crap, cancer is extremely serious. Don’t wish someone to have it because you didn’t like a joke

[@bigsmokenoextradip7705]

@TGDSHARK I hope you smell my number45 fart

[@Beansidhe413]

Given the historical precident, yes it wouldn't be out of the question for a woman's armor to be made to suit that more feminine aesthetic, but also it would likely have to be a very wealthy woman or one with a wealthy sponsor\benefactor to have custom armor like that made, since practically the "male" stock armor should still be able to accomodate her figure as you said.

[@BennysGamingAttic]

Anyone else watching this because Twitter is talking about the Mandalorian female boob armor?

[@martfp88]

Yep lol. And honestly it is ridiculous... There's definitely some female armours in fantasy that are worth having a conversation about but this is not one of them.

[@blazeofglory4053]

Oh, would you look at that. He just so happened to have uploaded a video about the Mandalorian armor that you're talking about.
What a coincidence!

[@martfp88]

@@blazeofglory4053 haha just saw it! I'm watching it

[@TheMimiSard]

I just came from Shad's video about that.

[@icosaphilia6342]

There is also a lot more leeway for ceremonial armour as opposed to functional armour, especially true when considering female rulers

[@matthewmuir8884]

I'm reminded of that scene in The Dragon Prince where Prince Callum tries to go into battle in ceremonial armour only to be reminded of how impractical it is.

[@zeekeno823]

I found actual ceremonial plate like what you're talking about. Look up Varahi armor and you'll find it.

[@moriskurth628]

Ceremonial armor also gives a bit of a justification for "skimpy" designs, if the culture is very martial and emphasizes duty and sacrifice. A Queen could wear a revealing outfit resembling armor (because martial traditions) outside of combat as a way to show off battle scars, as a way of going "I am willing to put my life on the line for my people".
Even more so if the culture in question resides in a warmer climate, and wearing stuffy clothing would be uncomfortable.

[@Kr-nv5fo]

Yeah google for Habsburg wedding armour

[@grlt23]

Queen Elisabeth [the first] and Queen Isabella of Spain were wearing those female "armour", not really functional but with visible emphasize of certain body parts ;)

[@grantlauzon5237]

I want to complain about the breast plate cleavage but the cod piece (also pointy shoes) is a good counter argument.
Maybe cleavage would be more complex and not worth the trouble but then again erection armor.

[@Kenshinhugo]

Well not sure what these knights were wearing underr their amor but I doubt that they would have elasticity to put their boner to the right/left in their amor without seriously crushing it against metal plates

[@jayreese8522]

Big Codpiece Energy

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

breastplate cleavage, I'm thinking of that attack deflection bit Shad mentioned. wouldn't that grove going up the center of the breastplate guide pointy weapons up at the head and neck rather than deflect off to the side? Maybe more complex to make, and doubtful for effectiveness in battle.

[@gavinoaw]

Then there is also the ancient Greek sixpack armour! It's not medieval, but it's another historical example of armour emphasizing aesthetic body shapes

[@xenteko7249]

It really isn't a good counter-argument, if you spend a few minutes thinking about it.
Those codpieces were designed to be round for the same reason a breastplate was rounded: To deflect impact onto a less vulnerable or vital area.
If you smashed a man in the crotch and it wasn't well protected, you'd essentially won the fight, because it causes intense, completely incapacitating pain. The overlarge size existed for the same reason as the gap between the breastplate and chest did. Which was to allow for padding and to soften the damage from impact.
The reason boobplate doesn't work it that it does the exact OPPOSITE of what a breastplate is designed to do. Instead of deflecting a strike away from the centre of the chest, it will be channelled directly into it.
Imagine a strike from the spike of a hammer aimed at the middle of a standard breastplate? It would be very likely to glance off.
Now imagine the same strike on the standard boobplate you see in fantasy artwork? All the force would be directed straight into the middle of her chest. Or a strike directed at the underside of the boob protrusion, which would make piercing it far easier.
In a world where women fought in armoured battles, they'd be wearing something like what he addressed at 12:00.

[@davidfisher5140]

THANK YOU SHAD! This is the BEST analysis I have ever seen on the female armor matter.
I am familiar with a local medieval combat group that offers fee-based instruction in the late medieval Italian style. I was very impressed with the female in the group, GF to the leader. She was a bit busty but strong & tall. She wore full plate armor made in India to western European late medieval aesthetics. The plate was quite strong partially from it's curvature. This same curvature offered her ample space such that she could allow me to strike a modest blunt hammer blow directly to her bust without any discomfort.
Tackling these questions is exceptionally valuable to understanding history as well as for reenactments, entertainment, fiction-writing & gaming.
(The deal was, if I hurt her, she or HE, would then experiment upon my unarmored form)
My biggest question concerning metallic armor is its wearability in very low temperatures -below freezing. How was armor worn when temperatures dipped so low, or was it largely avoided due to the "refrigerator effect" modern soldiers experience in armored vehicles?
The padding, certainly could be increased & heavy cloaks worn over the top, BUT in great cold today, the last thing I want on near body is a chunk of cold-radiating metal. Then there are the issues of increased bulk hampering range of motion & causing fatigue all by itself.
I hope you can notice & address this issue bc I think YOU are the correct man for the job.
TYVM in advance,
Ironfish

[@timothygrulke1308]

Although it might not be quite the source you want, I have worn Armor in the freezing cold of night in my home of melbourne, australia, although it never got below freezing (4 degrees celcius would probably be the coldest), I've never felt cold wearing it. To be fair, I also wear 2 layers of clothing and a gambeson.
(I wear the same thing even when its a stinkin hot 30 degree night in summer so its not like I specifically planned around it being cold either)

[@davidfisher5140]

@@timothygrulke1308 TYVM for your input Tim.

[@AmyStache]

11:19
God I laughed way to hard at this

[@shadfacts6465]

Shad Fact: Shad widened the Grand canyon by two feet with is bare hands

[@shadiversity]

lols, keep em coming!

[@DZ-1987]

That moment.
What Moment?
The Moment.
Which one?
That one moment when you didn't say "Moment"

[@shieldmate7444]

I thought that was Chuck Norris

[@TheAderwolf]

that sounds wrong. shouldnt that be called widened it by 2 hands? how can you widen something by feet if he did it with his hands?

[@Halosty45]

@@TheAderwolf I was gonna say something just like that :P

[@ravnemagne9598]

I love how professional he is in the video. There is not a single snicker about anything sexual and he uses non-sexual terms for different things

[@matthewbulger1968]

S C H L O N G

[@AlMrl-xb1fq]

@@matthewbulger1968 so what is your point

[@sergeantrainstorm1269]

Al42 M0r4l35 Can you not figure it out yourself?

[@AlMrl-xb1fq]

@@sergeantrainstorm1269 don't see what is so bad in saying schlong

[@sergeantrainstorm1269]

Al42 M0r4l35 Are you feeling ok?

[@aloranvulcan6612]

Anybody else notice the star trek books on the shelf? Live long and prosper fellow trekkie!

[@mamavswild]

🖖🖖

[@kittrialeviana3574]

Funny how we all discussed that but never Henry’s little-

[@erinyes3943]

Six

[@joshualim1339]

This 'Campfire' thing looks promising.
I can now create a comprehensive list of characters I've killed off in various horrible ways.

[@milesmatheson1142]

Guys, I found the DM!

[@tims1686]

Joshua, your campaigns sound fun

[@Lavourrin]

Mr. Martin, please stop.

[@DZ-1987]

Now i know the reason why people kill off characters for no well explained reason other than "He had to"
"He had to" actually means i can't remember who this person is so... he dead.

[@AroundTheCampfire]

Honestly, not sure why we added any other features. Next update we'll remove everything except a Death List! ;D

[@vampirecount3880]

Aesthetics is a relevant part on armor/uniforms. Remenber, even in the most bloody war a warrior will spend 99,9% of his time not fighting...

[@tbc1880]

Yeah 30% walking around, .1% fighting and 69.9% dead

[@MicroageHD]

World War I: 100% fighting

[@akimbofurry2179]

@@MicroageHD NO they mostly sat in a trench

[@DARamosYT]

I guess with ranged weaponry, the percentage could potentially be a little lower.

[@darkdogzstudioz]

Not to mention gotta make sure everyo e knows what god you follow with all the golden adornments. Lol

[@student9516]

Female armor in real life: full metal armor
Female armor in video games:

[@kindkooladult6684]

Big brain comment

[@themandals7273]

Outdated joke

[@thomasdart4615]

Medieval knights: used sloped armour
Every tank before T34: this is Minecraft, no slopes here!

[@alvianekka80]

Explosive Reactive Armor: Lets use explosion to protect tank from explosion.

[@astracrits4633]

@@alvianekka80 "I used the explosion to destroy the explosion."

[@natethornnstuff1783]

@Gir Irken as some armor was rather flat.

[@maryk.cieslak9512]

Really liked this breakdown!
I think boob plate armour is fine, except one major thing: I do not think it would be practical to have separate bulges for each boob, but rather one bulge for the breastplate. It makes sense that you would not want to draw the sword MORE towards the center of the chest, and instead would want it to glance off the body.

[@AkameOda]

Even though I prefer the 2-cup design I totally your point is right. I actually saw a REAL 2-cup armor recently used by female fencers. The wearer talked about how the sternum piece is actually reinforced to account for turning the blade inward.

[@rodrigofreitas3288]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[@mcgibs]

The Onion Knight armor from Dark Souls is the most practical armor design out there, as long as you're not fighting in very, very cramped quarters.

[@maryk.cieslak9512]

@@AkameOda thats so fascinating!! But yeah if these were being produced on a mass scale, then it makes sense that instead of using extra metal to both reinforce and perfectly define each boob, you'd just have one breastplate.

[@ared18t]

No you want it going throw the center to avoid hitting the heart you baffoon :P JK

[@rsfakqj10rsf-33]

5:28 medieval men had such big balls, special armors were made just for them

[@alexofbree5278]

OMG! A sponsor slot I will actually use! Thank you! I really needed this Campfire thing in my life!

[@MapleCotton-420x]

Shad: "What do ya see there? A big ol-"
Henry the 8th: "*SHLONG*"

[@pwnmeisterage]

A lot of parallels between feudal royalty/nobility and modern hollywood/celebrity. These days the exaggerated schlong is just made from flimsy film instead of hard metal.

[@MoodyWeatherASD]

Machicolashlong?

[@endcorruption993]

5:10

[@garionbishop]

You spelled schlong wrong

[@jake_russ]

That campfire program looks handy as a role playing game master

[@laurap.2127]

I agree. As a writer and roleplay GM, I was actually looking for something of the like. Also, this is the first sponsored video in which I actually am curious about the sponsored content.

[@megaflyization]

Worldanvil is also a great one and its tailored a little better for gamemastering in my imo

[@AroundTheCampfire]

I've heard they try to tailor their software to all storytellers, not just people writing novels or screenplays.
I've even heard that they have a decent chunk of DND users already, and their Encyclopedia Update coming out this month will be huge for users wanting to use Campfire for DND so they can keep track of items, monsters, and the like easier.
Just stuff I've heard, but what do I know? ;D

[@marcosantonio-hj7vp]

In defense of bub armor I must remember that in greece and ancient rome they offer armors with the shape of an extremely outlined male body and they were functional and this is because the armor was not attached to the body like a piece of tight clothing so there was a "security space" where the armor could even sink without properly condemning the user in view of the shape, it is just an irrelevant aesthetic factor because having the safety space (as in the Greek abdominal armor) the sternum shape is easily contourable.

[@anonymoustextingstories1258]

I love this man and his positivity,I also love the fact that he likes to talk about the good aspect of fantasy

[@MLEbug]

The one thing that I find quite unrealistic about a lot of female fantasy armour is how tight it is to the frame. The chest pieces are often practically metal corsets which don’t allow for any real manoeuvrability. I find this very impractical.

[@wespennell6421]

Male armor has a corset, it's to keep presser of the shoulders.

[@notsurewhattoputhereyet7052]

@AP P just because it's fiction doesn't mean we can't make improvements to something that seems unrealistic...? what makes you think that just because it's fake the creators don't mind it looking fake? I'm literally here because I'm an artist. my interest from this video was to make my art seem more real. and emily brings up a good point

[@k.v.7681]

The problem with female armor looking tight has nothing to do with the armor itself. Does it look like a corset? It's supposed to. In essence, heavy armor is a metal casing, not a kimono or bath robe. There is no manoeuvrability for the chest. It has to be practical around the arms and the legs, nothing more. Men did not strut around in armour every day. Armor is designed for a job. You dont hear a welder complain that his helmet is not practical to watch tv. The biggest problem I have with female armor in fantasy most of the times is not the armor but the character that looks like she has the body of a five years old with breasts (thus having armor in proportion). Fantasy has some decent fantasy designs that do not renege practicality. It's the character's anatomical design that sucks.

[@Lanewreck]

I would imagine form fitting armor on a female would be pretty hard to breathe, the single curved plate would be much better at keeping you alive.

[@wesleep4633]

Honestly, you're more likely to be killed by tripping long before you even see the enemy

[@justadude2377]

WAIT!!! The codpiece is out of style??? I've been wearing my codpiece every day and people couldn't stop staring at it's greatness.

[@sillypuppy5940]

Very fishy

[@Anonimus-nb8rr]

*magnificent*

[@Rathori]

But is it an armored codpiece?

[@justadude2377]

@@Rathori Am I going to war? No, it was my daily codpiece. Who do you take me for sir?

[@Dzharek]

Ill think ill wear the BLACK RUSSIAN Today!

[@eddthehead123]

I love how you've got Eye of the World down near the bottom shelf with all the other volumes, and then Eye of the World again up top at eye level in pride of place. Buying the same book twice because this book has a flashy super look is definitely something I do.

[@legendaryplayz394]

I so happy you brought campfire to my attention I’m weighting a novel right now and I am very exited to try it

[@DwarfInBlues]

Nice one! The only additional thing that was mentioned, but not explicitly is the way the breastplate will need to NOT be breast-shaped but still remain a dome, as to deflect blows, rather than guide to the sternum.

[@Beamer1969]

DwarfInBlues it would give a whole new meaning to the word cleavage.

[@elzian4975]

@@Beamer1969 Ouch...

[@Quintus_Fontane]

Eeesh, yeah. One heavy blow or even a bad fall and you've got a vicious steel wedge being driven RIGHT into the sternum. That'd take the fight out of anyone pretty bloody quickly...

[@lacewinglml]

for sure, people definately need to know the difference between boobplate and aesthetic. The medieval female silhouette didn't really emphasize boobs, the undergarments of the time made a straiter line down the front.
even modarn clothing while more fitted doesn't create a "sock" around each breast.

[@Sturm01]

Tell me, when in a fight have you ever been looking straight on at your opponent? With a proper fighting stance and maneuvering you are extremely unlikely to ever get a straight on look at your opponent. Therefore any shots that may be "guided to the sternum" would actually be covered by the side of the boob plate and actually be deflected out and down or out away from the target.

[@frostierr8193]

OK CZcams FFS I WATCH IT

[@haustierone]

same here .. no idea why, but since its suggested.. why not

[@kfons]

Megumin, good choice! I see you're a fellow degenerate as well

[@godbear2930]

Just hit not interested. That's what I do.

[@oddacity5883]

Hmmm i wonder why Megumin has to watch videos about armor

[@Oblithian]

I am here for the same reason.

[@charmingpeasant9834]

Fantasy has magic, dragons, massive swords, over the top fighting styles and other unrealistic aspects.
But boob plate is the one thing that triggers all these moral busy body people, who'll also completely ignore male armor with masculine chest and six pack pieces.

[@holdencross5904]

I have nothing wrong with it because it makes sense

[@eisenkrahe7125]

If in our universe where men made armor with abs, I can totally imagine a universe where women fight instead of men and they made boob armor lol

[@gamdanyunizar7849]

lmao who cares about moral I just want to see something historically accurate

[@matthewpierce6076]

@@gamdanyunizar7849 If you want to see something historically accurate, go to a museum.

[@tercomada]

@@eisenkrahe7125 las armadura de estilo griego clásico tenían dos funciones resistir golpes y enseñar la clase social que era, en roma se inventó un tipo de armadura mejor y la armadura griega clásica solo se utilizaba para enseñar el estatus pero no para luchar

[@VastosTV]

really liked the video i never tought about the difference on real medieval armor and fantasy one , i can say you teached me something new :D

[@tr8rsn4k36]

Holy hell, that campfire ad was the very first ad that I actually enjoyed hearing about.. and I *HATE* ads lol

[@41-Haiku]

I liked the video for the ad before the actual content began. XD

[@mariobenedicto3582]

Agreed! But I am guessing you're a writer? 'Cos I am a hobby writer myself.

[@pl0xr0blux89]

@@mariobenedicto3582 im personally just a semi-professional roleplayer. And making a map is what interested me most.

[@informitas0117]

You can be a professional roleplayer?

[@brittonwhite8122]

I'm saving for PRO

[@QuantumLeapCosplay]

"Well... There is a thing called a 'codpiece'."
Wow, that's subtle. HAHAHA

[@AmorDeae]

Oh, so that's what rhino in Warframe has. A codpiece

[@DZ-1987]

Say that in front of a person who enjoys Call of Duty along with the picture and that person would think you're joking and making fun of that person. Then when that person searches it himself, he realizes how stupid he was being.
That's saying if a person who enjoys Call of Duty even exists, of course.

[@kaiserwigglesiii2369]

Yeah, I was eating Chili when I got a cockblast to my face. I legitimately recoiled.

[@markbyrd7710]

@@kaiserwigglesiii2369 um... Phrasing?

[@morganb6717]

@@AmorDeae Rhino has a wedge, damn near similar to the shape of an hatchet blade. imagine if his Charge was more of a tactical pelvic thrust.

[@NWolfsson]

The Dramatic Horns (tm) music on Henry IIX's armor and the word "SCHLONG" was one of the best comedic combos I've seen this year :)

[@Nen_niN]

Stuch is a word I'm going to start using now, thanks! Also the vid was really cool

[@vampireraef]

So campfire sounds like a Dungeon Masters dream tool I may have to check it out next time I get a campaign going

[@milesmatheson1142]

Why not use it before hand, to set up the campaign?
That's what I'm gonna do.

[@MyLonewolf25]

Miles Matheson because players never actually follow the story

[@AroundTheCampfire]

We're certainly glad you think so! We have all storytellers in mind when designing this, and we think our DND users are going to be really excited about the Encyclopedia Update this month to keep track of items and enemies! Thanks for this comment :)

[@humblesoldier5474]

When I hear D&D and story pre made. I can't help but hear Barbosa saying his quote on his view of Pirate Rules.

[@dooziespencer58]

Dungeons and dragons will greatly benefit indeed

[@LutherLee]

This video is much more informative than I was expecting when I saw the title. The fact that medieval people did quite a lot to make their armor reflect their aesthetic is eye-opening.

Great explanation, perfect pronunciation; thank you for this coherent and rational speech.
You have a new follower from Colombia (South America).
Have a great day

[@jonkerrmusic]

I am mesmerized by the binding on your book collection.

[@templarkiller2926]

Just spray paint a big F or M on the armor to show whether its for Females or Males, boom, solved the problem

[@Palatinus-Z]

Templarkiller Brilliant, m8.

[@EmethMatthew]

Or maybe some sort of color-coding? We should get on that...

[@andrewsantana4057]

Maybe, blue armor for men and pink armor for women

[@TechSupportDave]

@@andrewsantana4057 but thats stereotypical and will trigger feminists.

[@TechSupportDave]

assuming someone is of a certain gender can offend feminists. lol

[@ornu01]

Oh, I completely forgot about codpieces. That will haunt me for the rest of the month, thank you so much for that, Shad.

[@bobthet-rex2718]

I had no idea they existed till today I can say that I would have been perfectly happy being ignorant of that fact

[@markbyrd7710]

Ok legit question about codpieces, I understand that they may be used to emphasize the male regions, but what if they did serve a purpose? Awkward as it sounds, what if a knight became aroused while wearing armor? I feel like having some room would be beneficial vs having their manhood trapped against a metal wall.

[@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem]

@@markbyrd7710 why would they get aroused in a battle

[@markbyrd7710]

@@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem you don't wear armor exclusively for battle. And I don't know! People are weird.

[@SymbioteMullet]

@@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem physical exertion could raise heart rate, causing unexpected reactions (especially if higher heart rate equals higher blood pressure).
Also if you're facing high fantasy foes with form fitting (and accentuating) armour, it could be one of their tactics to throw off their opponent's game

[@spamfilter32]

When talking about full plate armor, all of it was custom made, There was no such thing as "off the rack" armor in this time period. So if you were making armor frequently enough for woman, there would definitely be an aesthetic that would develop for it; but since woman wearing full plate armor was so exceedingly rare (outside of Joan d'arc is there any real historical references?) an armorer making a set for a woman would make what he/she already knows.
Speaking of Joan d'arc do we have the armor she wore on the battle field? any idea what happened to it?

[@mamavswild]

I thought she just wore mail, from the paintings I saw of the period but I’ll have to research if they were contemporary or not.

[@WolfricLupus]

The domed shape on the chest piece also provides 2 other functions. i) a crumple zone over the vital organs when hit by a piercing or crushing enemy weapon; ii) an air cushion over the chest when hit in the chest with blunt force to spread the load evenly, thus reducing major internal injury.

[@rollingthunder1043]

I have one objection to the way female armour is portrayed in fantasy: It's often very form-fitting. This LOOKS good (feminine/sexy), but it removes the gap Shad was talking about between the steel plate and your skin, and the protection that empty space provided (though women are still shown wearing gambesons and chainmail under their boob-plate). Additionally, if each individual breast is molded into the armour, versus a single "bulge" in the chest that covers both breasts (I'm pleased to see Shad depicted both variants of boob plate)... that's dangerous. If you take blunt trauma to the chest, the lowest point between the two is going to smash into your sternum like a very blunt axe, concentrating the force, which would be bad. Also, if someone comes at you with a thrusting weapon like a spear, instead of glancing off your chest, the blow's going to skid down into your cleavage... where it's going to bite, and be really, really easy for the enemy to get the leverage needed to impale you.

[@j.v.l.9019]

True, and also people usually wear some form of padding under their armour. Which would flatten a chest making the 2 breast plates completely unnecessary.

[@gigabyte2248]

This. I can't imagine functional armour for women would be particularly different to historical functional armour for men (except, y'know, smaller), since you ultimately need to deflect force away from the heart and vital organs, not towards them. I counter Shad's counterpoint with: maces, hammers and warpicks (the weapons you'd actually bring to fight an armoured foe) could still totally puncture plate armour if the force was concentrated (and, even if the strike was deflected inwards and upwards as he mentions, the neck, windpipe and jugular are in that direction).
Ceremonial armour is a whole different story: Henry VIII presumably never actually needed his armour to actually protect him, hence the... decorative features... so I could readily imagine makers and wearers going to town with boob-plates for decorative status-symbol armour, like discussed.

[@joshuabarney9391]

Well, I agree with shad that the armor would have the spacing more towards the bust not the belly. But I agree with you too, overall femininity in armor would be less extreme in real life for practicality.

[@Sigart]

@@joshuabarney9391 Hmm... might also be for pricing. I can't imagine it's easy to shape breasts out of steel...

[@ruedelta]

If women don't fight in most militaries but they do in a specific area or country, the armor would probably be shaped in a way to intimidate or otherwise send a message that "our women are not like your women, they're here to kill you." Because really, you don't go to war to look good to your fellow countrymen, you go to war to destroy your enemies. Manliness/virility being a shorthand for deadliness was obvious, but femininity wasn't a similar shorthand.
Also very few people could afford fully fitted armor in the first place. Having a set of ceremonial armor is just far too luxurious for pretty much everyone, so let's not really fixate on it.

[@xXxKillerDovexXx]

Writers: Hey, campfire actually looks like it could be a good tool to help organize my writing!
Me: I... I could use this to organize my d&d campaigns !

[@SpiderboyN2Jesus]

That's exactly what I was thinking!

[@talulashippe]

Yeah, my friends and I are working on a story arc for our roleplay community, and I thought it would come in handy. However, it doesn't look like there's any kind of share feature, so no go. :(

[@xXxKillerDovexXx]

@@talulashippe I suppose it depends on what your dm style is like. Im personally not too worried about it for my campaigns. If my players need to know a lump of info or request something i can just copy and paste. But maybe theyll introduce a share option for collaborative storytellers somewhere down the road!

[@talulashippe]

@@xXxKillerDovexXx I get what you're saying, but I am not a dm in any kind of campaign. I share story arcs with other roleplayers in an online community. Bit different.

[@xXxKillerDovexXx]

@@talulashippe Ah my bad totally misread xD Running on no sleep was gonna mess up my reading comprehension sooner or later I suppose 😂

[@whatislife3645]

2:49 armor looks really decent, I think

[@daisylazy1343]

This was very informative thank you

[@ApothecaryTerry]

Guessing advertising being a woman would have made medieval men think "easy target" too. That could have advantages but if they're focused on killing you I think it's probably somewhat of a downside.

[@Darek_B52]

If you've never seen Beserk there's a fight (just before the 100 men vs Guts (Gutsu in Japan) fight) that yes has a similar thing. One of the enemies leading the opposing force spots Casca (though she's not wearing tit armour I should point out) and upon realizing she's a ....she, he targets her. Later two of his men try raping her. I do suggest beserk by the way...the manga, or anime, not really the movies though due to their quality though I hear that the guys who did the Castlevania anime on Netflix want to do a Beserk anime.

[@kosimiki]

@@Darek_B52 not much realizm in berserk but I liked that Casca used clever cuts like cutting their armpit, instead of ignoring armor.

[@Darek_B52]

@@kosimiki True (hell even they make fun of Guts sword at the start) But her armour is (in terms of chestplate) is practical.

[@mattes4929]

Well that kind of depends on the following: Is the man in question used to fighting: If not he would maybe choose to not fight the woman, because a female on the battlefield? Either she has guards to protect her if she is not used to fighting or she is a skilled fighter on her own if she is alone. Or she is used as bait to lure the enemy into a trap, arbalists waiting for easy shots and the like.

[@giorgiannicartamancini3917]

@@Darek_B52 I'd say a good part of the arms and armours in berserk are very well designed, I was very pleased with that aspect of the manga

[@jakoborrazor4059]

Medieval cod-pieces are kinda like a teenage or preteen girl stuffing her bra...
But it’s a full-grown and rich man...

[@guessmyname1246]

Lol XD

[@samwallaceart288]

Beats stuffing cucumbers into pants.

[@HansKSG]

I think there are quite a few adult women that use "padded" bras, and other tricks to make their bust look bigger.

[@cam4636]

Yeah, nowadays instead of stuffing the codpiece they just get a yacht

[@anduro7448]

@@cam4636 And then stuff it into their pants

[@gohanmoreno7]

This is the first time that i find the sponsor in a video, appealing, thanks.

[@champisthebunny6003]

Asking why we dont see 'female' specific-armor historically, needs to take into consideration factors over and above the rarity of females on the battlefield to actually wear them.
Cost.
These complex armors were often custom-made and fitted, and were, in some cases, depending, could be amazingly expensive in modern terms. Going to an armorer in dark ages Europe, and asking them custom-fit armors in this manner for females specifically, they'd probably say, yes, we could do that, but, A), its going to cost you, and B), why would you want that in first place when what we have now, will do the job just fine with maybe some minor changes that wouldn't cost a small fortune. Remember suits of armor could cost the same as a high end luxury car, or expensive home in modern terms.
Female-centric armors, not sure what economics of that would entail since, I dont think there is any historical precedent for it?
Might want to ask what it would cost to actually MAKE one of these (plausible) looking female armors using modern techniques. Then go to a smith, and ask what kind of cost it entail to make them using more traditional methods.

[@kpsiex]

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[@General12th]

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[@kpsiex]

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[@ethanstrawn6813]

Thanks shad, im glad I learned about schlong plates today.

[@Arzieth]

you're not the only one

[@liamhall9053]

Finally, a good codpiece for my MAGNUM DONG

[@hermitpurple3224]

Oh no someone used Warhammer on my monster codpiece for my magnum dwang

[@ryanoneill5063]

No one named Chad has ever had a "magnum" dong ever lol🤙

[@hermitpurple3224]

@@ryanoneill5063 r/wooosh

[@samwallaceart288]

Why do I feel like this is Danny DeVito quote?

[@boysansbacher]

Chad Man, why do I see so many people use that profile image? Could you please explain to me? Thanks👍

[@SheyD78]

I suspect unless aesthetics were extremely important (ie above survivability) the chest plate on battlefield armour wouldn't be shaped on each side but continuous, with the very centre still sticking out furthest for optimal deflection. It would simply bulge as Shad said at chest height. Being shaped to each side of the chest leaves a notch in the centre that would guide a thrusting weapon (sword/spear/halberd point) into it, making it more likely to punch through. I'd think only ceremonial armour would be anatomically correct.

[@malcolm_in_the_middle]

Honestly, this is probably the first time I have ever actually been interested in a video's sponsor

[@isaacgraff8288]

"Why is female armor so defined?"
Fanservice. Mystery solved

[@acg6350]

manservice*

[@oc8636]

@OriginalYithian REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@Dreyko5893]

@@acg6350 Lesbians also like the shape of the female body.

[@user-mt5uy3jk8p]

Adán Castillo idiot

[@electronresonator8882]

they give +1000 def in fantasy world, enough to solo raid boss

[@Echowhiskeyone]

The wide hips on armor may have aided in activities where the legs are spread. Such as riding a horse... or dragon.

[@warlordsquerk5338]

Good point

[@empresslithia]

That's what skirts are for.

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

Tonlets for Example. Exaggeration of the tassets , faulds and decorations on the leg armor to make the legs look bigger. Maybe articulated chasity belts instead of codpieces?

[@Roxirin]

@@empresslithia And what protection is a skirt going to provide, exactly?

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

Tonlets, large faulds are basically war skirts. Scale and mail armor even more so. Harder to get stabbed in the crotch without compromising mobility. @@Roxirin

[@AC3handle]

I'm not sure I would use Campfire to actually write out a novel, but as an RPG chara and game time line tool, I think that's utterly brilliant. To bad this is more then a year old.

[@ginnyjollykidd]

Shoulder decorations or enhancements might do 2 things: make the armor look more attractive (like a metal puff shoulder) or make it look more fierce, like having the shoulders extend into a point to each side. It could help keep opponents at bay, maybe? Maybe even put spikes on there. They might not be allowed in SCA lists, but they would look impressive on the battlefield.

[@ziwuri]

Huge spikes on your shoulders would be terrible for mobility and fighting in formation.

[@claytonjacobs4098]

plus every time you lift your arms you spike your head. even with a helmet, that will get old really fast.

[@furriass3978]

Henry the 8th was trying to protect the royal jewels, not show off his junk lol. He struggled for a male heir.

[@blackpowderkun]

I think one way to emphasize feminity in armor is to decorate it with what would be seen as femine locally like coloring, decore on helmets etc.

[@CrossbowBeta]

or tits

[@mme.veronica735]

@@CrossbowBeta Guide the warhammer or halberd right to your sternum

[@zettovii1367]

Another would be to emphasize the curves, not just by having bigger breast plate, but also wider and more rounded hip guards, which then is followed by some thigh and butt plates that streamlines the curve.

[@koshi6505]

Have you seen medieval attire? Men with money were wearing a lot of colors and decorations.

[@zharb8263]

Fantastic Video man!

[@tarrker]

Female armor: Exactly the same as all other armor unless made specifically for show. There. Question answered.

[@valrond]

Shad is so good that even ads are interesting.

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

Most of the time anyway. Sorry Shad, but I left that Donald Trump ad for building a wall yesterday as soon as I could. 🤢

[@zakd2124]

@@Sophia-vk5bq Umm, I'm pretty sure you are talking about the ads that come before the video? Shad has no control over those--that's youtube, not the channel, that controls those in almost every case.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Shad ever advertised building the wall on his channel. Especially because he's Australian.

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

@@zakd2124 No of course not. lol I just meant I regret it if it causes his channel to lose some ad revenue because the YT bots decided to give me such a sickening ad video. XD

[@landodo1421]

Aaron Stoner Border security in America just like in many other major nations such as the Great Wall in China and the Iron Dome in Israel?
*_HOW HORRIFYING!_*

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

@@landodo1421 yeah, because security measures taken against refugees is obviously justified.
Make a little brevity on the Internet and suddenly everyone takes up arms.😂