How To Prove Christianity Is RIGHT? Was There Evidence Jesus Rose From The Dead? Two Years In Now.
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Second year anniversary of this channel not only smashing the ignorance of Christian fundamentalism but the attempt to prove God exists and Yeshua's resurrection. What I have found and am I going to head to the baptismal waters of reconversion?
If you would like to read a novel about what I think the Apocalypse would be like if Christ ever returned (a tale the fundamentalist will despise) click the link below. And may God bless you---just not the God that floods an entire world.
THE SECOND FALL. By Charles Hurst
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Thanks for watching and to embark on a tale I admit is fiction, check out THE SECOND FALL. What would Yeshua be like if he returned for the apocalypse? Sure to offend a few, and maybe a few more. www.amazon.com/SECOND-FALL-Charles-Hurst/dp/B08RR9SJFM
'What would Yeshua be like if he returned for the apocalypse?' He'd be late, that's what he would be.
He promised his disciples he would be back, with an army of angels, while they were still alive.
Keep up your work as the videos are appreciated.
Thanks much Mr B---cheers, DCF
Thank you for being a voice of rational reason.
The Bible is my reason for disbelief.
Same. I opened the bible as a devout catholic and by Exodus I was an atheist.
Perfecto!
Did it (the Bible) tell you there is no God?
That sucks
@@ThroneofDavid8no, it tells us that the god described in the work of fiction would be an absolute monster if it were actually real. Not to mention utterly inept and seemingly incapable of thought. It's basically a cautionary tale of why faith is a horrible system of belief.
What right minded people want to spend eternity singing praises and forgetting about family in hell
I too held out hope until I realized the bible god was not just, loving, righteous, or intelligent. If true I'd be ashamed to tell anyone about it.
2:09. "These people have been intrusive in my life for decades"
Yep, they've been intrusive for millennia. They are ordered to infect everyone with this belief and to threaten you if you don't accept their "gift". It's about power, not love. They are bullies.
And this is the answer to the question: Why do you care about something you don't believe in?
I guess I have two answers. I care enough about the truth to be interested in what they have to say. More importantly, they are trying to realign the government to force the rest of us to live the way they believe God wants us to live. If they just just went to church, read the Bible and occasionally talked to us about their faith, but otherwise left us alone, I probably wouldn't care about them.
Some people had a tougher time separating themselves from religions. It's difficult, even after 20 years, I still miss the community.
Evidence is not a thing in religion. For some reason god did everything when people were illiterate and couldn't get proof on anything. As soon as intelligence increased and literacy rose god kinda stopped doing anything
Having a sense of conviction that death is not the end, and that there is more to our existence than this narrow window of a single lifetime MAY require some leap of faith (as you comment at about 7:50).
However, in my observation and experience; making that leap doesn't automatically translate into (nor IMO does it benefit from) having to buy into the whole Xtian dog and pony show (despite what some Fundamentalists might have you believe).
David Atwill is a scholar and author of Ceasars Messiah in which he completely debunks Christianity.
Caesars Messiah is generally considered pseudo by most historians. This isn't to say he was necessarily wrong, but Tacitus wrote about Nero and Christians in 64 AD. The Tacitus writing poses problems for Atwill's theory.
I’m sorry to hear you experience angst when your research doesn’t show Christianity to be true. I always find comfort when this religion is debunked because the doctrine of hell plays such a central role in the faith. I’ll take annihilation after death any day rather than have billions of souls, mine included, be tortured for eternity.
I had come to a time, when recently widowed and moved away from family, when all I had was time to do scripture study. Yeah, it didn't take long to deconvert. And I was in it: plain dressing, tzitziot-wearing, head-covered, feast and Sabbath observing, clean-eating, Christmas/Easter avoiding, river-baptized (living water is the only "right" way, donchaknow).
I quit that insanity after 39 years once i sat at home 6 months during lockdown down i decided to open my mind and realized I was lied to and this God was actually evil and no one I would worship EVER !Good bye Religion I am better than that God !
I'd rather build a fire than wish lightening starts one. Bigger isn't always better. I don't need a bonfire to be enlightened.
I'm hoping that one day scientists will discover that chocolate is healthy food and makes us loose fat and gain muscle. I'm hoping that all politicians will become honest and start caring for the poor and needy. Let me know as soon as anything like this happens.
Healthy chocolate is more likely than honest politicians 😂
@WasOne2
All food offered in thanks giving is good
I have become a bible atheist, I hold out for a God of some sort being out there, I believe in the spirit world (experienced) .
I just can't buy the god of the bible.
Me too
Trying to prove Christianity or any other religion is true is like trying to 'prove' to someone that you love them. It's impossible.
You shouldn't be so surprised that William Lane Craig uses such poor reasoning. He admitted in a podcast that he wanted to believe in Christianity so badly that he lowered the epistemological standards to the ground. He gained the nickname "Low Bar Bill" . Your problem is that you have higher epistemological standards than most Christians, congratulations, I'm so sorry. I'll probably be following this channel for as long as you continue to create new content. If you ever publish that final video where you decide to reconvert, I will watch it, curious on what convinced you. I wonder if it will convince me.
I did not know that about Craig but in the future I'll be creating a playlist on his Reasonable Faith as I did on Case For Christ. I'm even further away than I was 2 years ago Darwin. Cheers, DCF
First video I’ve seen of yours. Couple thoughts. Jumped out at me that you say Mark was written in the late 2nd century, against general scholarly consensus, including Ehrman. And I have heard Dillahunty say on numerous occasions that he doesn’t know what would convince him, but that a god that bases his ‘saving’ on belief certainly would and yet chooses not to give it to him.
It really only matters to me keeping these ‘facts’ straight to avoid deflection. If I make the point that because Mark was written over a hundred years after Jesus, we can easily read a lot more opportunity for legend-ing, the conversation will switch to dating the gospels. The more accepted 30 years to me, is plenty of time to allow for legend anyway. But now they bypass the point by contesting the amount.
Same as the point about Dillahunty, it just obscures an important point he’s making about god’s supposed knowledge and intention.
Not trying the trash your video, just wondering why stray from established facts when they would stand on their own..?
Consensus says Mark was written 30-40 years after the crucifixion--I believe the earliest fragment copy was later from sources in another video I produced. Cheers, DCF
I suggest you learn some Hebrew, and look at the book of Isaiah and see how the Jews understand it. You may find your understanding of scripture leads you to a theology closer to Judaism than to Christianity.
You probably haven't come across earlier videos yet. I am probably closer to a Jew than anything, although I dismiss many of the stories of Torah. Cheers, DCF
I love your channel. One of the few honest theist voices on YT.
Do you have any other channel recommendations that are similar to yours ML
You know I haven't come across another theist that wants to be convinced of Christianity. Genetically Modified and Harmonic Atheist are both deconverted Atheists (I hope one day I can link up with Harmonic--that's a very smart guy). But glad you like the videos---I'm not going anywhere--cheers, DCF
@@debunkingthefundamentalist I'd love to see you do collab with HA ❤️
@@debunkingthefundamentalist Hi! As someone from a Soviet culture (now an immigrant in the USA) I believe that the resurrection was staged by the Romans, as explained in a popular book where I'm from - "The Gospel of Afranius"; like many others, I read it in childhood and never thought about this question again - until coming to the USA and noticing a stark contrast in the discussion of this question. What's wrong with that explanation?? I'm confused, what am I missing here?.. (This work was praised in "Nature", skeptical biblical scholar Carlos Colombetti called it "a worthy addition to the set of naturalistic hypotheses that have been proposed", and apologist Lydia McGrew grudgingly acknowledged that it is "consistent with the evidence".)
Can't say I have ever heard of this theory---cheers, DCF
@@valinorean4816 I would have thought the main reason to doubt the Romans faked the crucifixion or resurrection is that they didn't care about Christ or Christians. Jesus appears to have been one Jewish preacher amongst dozens, while his followers were small in number and not worthy of note. The Romans would have had little reason to go to the hassle and cost to hit out against a tiny cult.
Of course there is not there is only proof he was crucified there is 0 proof of any resurrection. The original story didn't even include a resurrection it was only the two later books written much later that both further embellished the myth with the final one including Thomas and the great cop out that you don't need proof just belief. On top of all that Jesus only meaningful prophecy was that he would return in the life time of some of the apostles which have all been dead now for 2000+ years.
Turned out that Yeshua ben Joseph (Jesus) was never actually crucified; Remote-Viewing Projects have been done on this, starting with The Crucifixion Ruse as published by Dr. Courtney Brown, then again from the FSI (their acronym; I don't seem to be able to actually mention them without the algorithms making my comments auto-disappear), done under completely Blind-Conditions.
I don’t know there is %
“proof” there was a Jesusvand that he was crucified. Bart Erhman is one who thinks there very likely was a jesus character who was crucified for being a big nuisance. Bart is sceptical about much else and dismisses the miracles and resurrections I confess though, he’s never convinced me I should think the character is not complete fiction.
Im not a fundamentalist, but i would consider myself a Son of God, and a disciple of Christ
I stopped believing when I found credible evidence that the New Testament character Jesus never existed, as opposed to an historical Jesus or Yeshu, who ime was probably a rebel who got whacked the Romans.
I also delved into research on the subject of Roman crucifixion and found that the crucifixion of Jesus was a cleverly devised crucifiction: that Jesus was nailed to a two-beam cross that Non-Christian Romans had called a _tropaeum._
Look at both sides and the evidence for the Shroud of Turin.
Man-made religions and doctrines and re-editing of ancient texts are not the same as those sent from above
I have an entire video on the S of T.--cheers, DCF
Shroud is a well known ape from the high middle ages. The amount of money to be made from gullible christians was the same then as now. Chaucer’s Pardoner and Summoner characters are the same as Peter Popov, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen.
Do you believe in belief?
Belief is the excuse you give when you have no evidence
It’s really really easy to see how the whole Bible his flawed, exactly what you would expect from a cult in the era it was written.
It’s as convincing as Ancient Greek religion. Actually use a lot of literary devise they use.
True or False
The Nt writers purposely refused to write about the war between the Jews and the Romans in 70 AD.
@@ThroneofDavid8 who cares.
Meaning the gospels were obviously written earlier than scholars say.
@@Scarred4life420 Those who want to know the truth.
@@ThroneofDavid8 if you want to know the truth, get your head out of the bible.
@@ThroneofDavid8 as far as your original comment goes, I think "purposely" is doing a lot of lifting.
nope non at all zip nada and bugger all but muh buk dun say
The Holy Spirit was sent to be your teacher, you need to learn to be still and listen to him. He is the spirit of truth who will lead and guide you into all truth. If you insist on research only , treating the Bible as a regular book then you will reach many erroneous conclusions until you subject yourself to so much pain you will one day finally hold still and then you will learn what the still small voice of God sounds like.
OHHHHHH so its a magic book that we just make our own story from