There are so many little details I love: The half-open eyes kinda give the illusion of having cat eyes at a glance, he uses Sephiroth's opening stance, and the wind blowing flattens out his spikes throughout the scene and makes his hair look more flowing. And when he impales a trooper at 1:11, he does it with his LEFT hand, not his right, and his feet are positioned close together in a stance similar to Sephiroth's.
“That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.” That was definitely a Guts moment out of Cloud.
only problem is that cloud's sword feels like a cardboard cutout and it has those classic korean mmorpg physics where they are massive but move like they're a kitchen knife it doesn't have the weight and the power of the dragonslayer, and even guts had to struggle to swing with that thing
Reminds me of the scene at the start where the Mayor of Nibelheim and his crew has Sephiroth at gunpoint, and they just let him slow walk over and stab them one by one without firing a single shot.
@TheMixEmperor they were in shock, Sep was a war hero than, they saw him as superman or a batman. I think they froze and couldn't believe what is happening
When Clouds personality changes he also changes his weapon stance.. that is really cool. Considering he uses Zacks mannerisms sometimes but in Combat always Zacks style we really need to pay attention to such things in part 3.
He actually does the Sephiroth stance quite a lot. That opening move he always does when using Limit Breaks. And he takes a similar stance when guarding in Punisher Mode. Which makes sense. Sephiroth was his hero after all.
Its not strictly a Sephiroth stance. Cloud does take that stance, though not very often. For example n his fight against Sephiroth in Remake ending, Cloud takes the same stance when Sephy is tossing his blade beams(?) at him.
Love how he's actually killing them. I found it so stupid in FF7 Remake when he said some shit like "They'll wake up soon" LIKE YOU IS NOT SURVIVING BEING HIT BY A GIANT ASS SWORD lmao
Lorewise Zack says he uses the buster sword on its blunt side most of the time, lorewise Cloud may use the blunt side when he just wants to knock out people but in gameplay I think it would be too much work to make extra animations for blunt side usage
He is killing them. The difference here, is that he is killing them without mercy due to Sephiroth having control over him. He usually kills to protect
it IS 😥 that makes me so worried for Part 3. At this rate they're gonna make a Puppet Cloud boss fight in the next game and that's gonna be more painfull than fighting Anti-Aqua and Terranort in KH
@@bigtatsu am very curious how there gonna end the story,i get not to expect to much but i kind of am expecting something big,the end of the first game created that expectation.
Not just the stance and movements, but even demeanor. Cloud usually grunts with his swings due to the weight of his sword. Sephiroth is usually quite when he battles
Cloud's fighting style and demeanor very clearly being a copy Sephiroth's is such a nice touch. They're not even hiding the fact that Sephiroth is basically wearing Cloud like skinsuit and turning him into a monster that's completely on autopilot.
People saying 'but we've killed so many people already' are missing the point - he kills to protect his friends and himself, here he's enjoying it under Sephiroth's influence. Edit - in Remake when they're in the Shinra building a trooper was cowering when Cloud was riding the motorbike through the window, he could've killed him but he didn't - him basically being possessed here turned him into a cold hearted murderer which Tifa called him on.
He's not just under Sephiroth's influence. Sephiroth's is literally controlling his body, it's not cloud in this clip, it's sephiroth. Clouds don't even have any memories of what just happened.
@dannyd4339 again missing the point, they served a purpose and especially with the reactor bombings ofcourse they knew they put people in danger but they weren't out to kill people for sport. This is what Cloud's doing here as he's being mind controlled by Sephiroth.
this is why i like the original better. it was easier for someone like you to understand, less ambiguos. Avalanche are not good people. they dropped a whole plate and killed thousands. @@davidmasters8601
@dannyd4339 How's about the more obvious line between morally grey and straight up evil? Cloud, under control, goes from questionable to straight up awful things when under Seph's influence in the original and that's being communicated here just fine.
The coolest scene ? Or rather the most terrifying yeah 😵 Every scene where you see how deep Sephiroth's control/influence over Cloud runs gives me gosebumps
I had the buster sword equipped for this scene as well and I’m not really sure why but it felt as if it amplified it as a result. Maybe because this weapon holds so much value in the story, it was the sword that Cloud used to kill Sephiroth the first time and it belonged to Zack which Cloud adopted his identity from and as a result giving in to Sephiroth’s control and using this weapon that embodies the legacy of righteousness to mercilessly cut down these standard shinra troops betrays Zack and Cloud himself showing that he really is losing himself. At least that’s what I felt watching it
Good to know that last guy was the only one who came packing his ketchup packet, would've ruined Clouds moment if he didn't get that one splurt of blood on his face after chopping down a squadron of goons.
I love how its like ‘omg nooo hes turning evil and killing them’ as if he hasnt straight up been making people unalive 24/7 for years now. ‘Oh no he stabbed that guy!’ Meanwhile, focused thrust is like the leading cause of death among shinras male employees in the age bracket 19-49.
Missed the point. It's not about killing them, it's about him enjoying the killing - shown especially when he went the extra step for the last 2 guys. You might remember in Remake and also earlier in Junon he tried to not kill if possible.
Its not about killing ppl its about HOW he kills them. He enjoy it this time. Also if Tifa didnt show up he would have killed Scarlet for sure with some badass action
I’d just assumed it’s like the Batman/Yakuza rule of nothing you fight dies unless it’s in a cutscene or explicitly stated. Either way though the things that’s agreeably wrong is how overkill Cloud went. He Advent Children lifted that one Shinra troop then the other that was barely crawling away he murdered in cold blood
Honestly this Cloud would be a lot more efficient though. Imagine if his friends didn't stop him from killing the threats that they consistently spare only to be harassed by three more times. Imagine how much easier and simpler their journey would have been if they'd just killed Hojo instead of letting him walk away, or the Turks instead of letting them walk away three or four times. They really don't do themselves any favours with their mercy.
This was as great as the Darth Vader hallways scene from Rogue One. And he slaughters them for around 35-40 seconds, exactly how long it was in Rogue One but in 2 parts. The first one takes from 0:25 to 0:45 and the second from 1:00 to 1:15 or 1:20 . And just like Darth Vader there is at least 2 people inside Cloud.. Like Cloud, Zack and Sephiroth as in Anakin, Vader and Palpatine.. and Sephiroth is kinda is Palpatine. Crazy I never realized this before.
This shit was peak fantasy. You have shinra and scarlet. Tifa swinging around. Whispers. A weapon. Cloud coming to save the day, and then the iconic villain just showing up to fuck everything up for everyone. Followed by a lifestream sequence. This was the single greatest change/addition to the story that this trilogy has done. The Aerith dream date is also up there, but obviously for very different reasons.
0:35 I remember yelling at my TV "Fuck off! Get the hell outta here with that shit!" When I saw him do that, "nothing personel, kid" shit when dodging the bullets. Like its funny to laugh at, but it made me hold my face and shake my head.
Now imagine, that grunt who got impaled on the sword could technically be someone like a 16 y. o. baby Cloud. It makes it even more disturbing if you think of it
I personally like to think that this is Cloud at his full potential, not being held back by any morals or ethics, just simple mindedly killing his enemies. Though he was still influenced by Sephiroth of course.
They can't show to much blood, unless it's relevant to the story. It's pg13 or something like that. They changed blood for purple glowing goo at the end of remake in Shinra tower
"That's enough!", Lady we've been slaughtering Shinra goons by the truckloads for one and a half games at this point what are you talking about. I guess murdering in self defense evil-y is worse than good-ily. Should've had the guys running or something to show Cloud's going overboard. I mean the dude on the ground is reaching for a gun, he's still a threat, have him cowering in fear or something.
First class Soldier are powerful enough to change the course of war...if only Tifa and Aerith din't hold Cloud back...the plate wont have drop and Jessie wont have to die including hundreds more innocent soul.
This seems to be the most complete takeover sephiroth did to cloud, his fighting style completely changed to sephiroth’s, though I wonder why this of all places did sephiroth do this
this scene is stupid, they murdered hundreds of shinra troops, but here, oh no its too much. was i supose be believe his blade was dull and barret was using rubber bullets before ?
It’s not about them dying . It’s the way he’s going about it. nobody on the crew enjoys killing them and tifa laments about it a lot in part 1 but her cloud is very clearly enjoying it.
@@cathyas3749barret enjoy it, and she never chasticized him even after they found people at shinra are people working to suport their family in the glass tower so.... BS
It's because it's out of charcater for cloud, he doesn't enjoy killing, he doesn't necessarily hate it, but he wouldn't go out of his way to do it. Here, he kills a wounded, crawling troop, which he would have never done before, as shown in the Remake in Shinra Tower. It's overkill, and unnecessary, plus the smile on his face of enjoyment is something he would never show in response to killing. It demonstrates Sephiroths influence on Cloud, the possession and control he has over him. Shown through the use of left hand and stances.
@@bladerj Barret talks big, but never enjoyed killing. He didn't go around killing everyone in the tower. Both in Remake AND OG. And I believe that's a major character trait that was continuously implied in story. This was strongly emphasized in his character arc in Gold Saucer. So the point is, none of the party enjoys killing, and has been doing so mostly in self-defence. Here the point is that "Cloud" is enjoying the killing
@@zackang4731say what ? he enjoyed the shit of murdering the pursuit bikers in remake and in rebirth,he also murdered troops with his friend, and he wanted payaback on shinra, payback on a building ? no, on troopers, he has bloodlust.
@@Blomstermark Yeah, it was always for self defense up until this point. But Cloud enjoying the brutality is a very different and way more concerning moment in context.
Because the Real problem is that in that scene, Sephiroth is making Cloud enjoy killing, which isn't in character with Cloud who was never that starved for blood before
Well it's problem in the remake, In the original the team was killing people left and right, you even killed Rufus's dog While in the remake they don't want to kill people even like President Shinra and all that, so they don't kill people, I believe they just beat them really hard. So it's a difference in story, killing in fma would be seen as bad while killing in Naruto would seen as Fine.
Is it sword or a fricking bonk stick? The guy is literally slicing poor soldiers into a salad but no blood and no dismemberment. Why make the scene that will look so unreal and sterilized that it will be the very opposite of thrill and rather urge to faceplam from cringe?
@@ChaseR206 abe s oddworld and jedi knight - exists. It s just a poor excuse for a bad scene. If you know that you re not allowed to show some serious stuff then why do you make the scene in the first place? Make the scene that will bring to the story the same context but will not be so cringe and comical
There are so many little details I love:
The half-open eyes kinda give the illusion of having cat eyes at a glance, he uses Sephiroth's opening stance, and the wind blowing flattens out his spikes throughout the scene and makes his hair look more flowing.
And when he impales a trooper at 1:11, he does it with his LEFT hand, not his right, and his feet are positioned close together in a stance similar to Sephiroth's.
his entire movement is similar to sephiroth's
Exacta comrade. We can even say he was the REBIRTH of Sephiroth.
Even the look on his face was like Sephiroth. He looked smug when he dodged the bullets and he looked sadistic when he stabbed the two soldiers
It's no longer just Sephiroth puppeting Cloud at this point, it's like he literally can wears Cloud's skin and act with it 😰
0:36 is just pure Sephiroth. They don't even try to hide it and I love it.
"Guys! stop shooting at the giant sword!"
"Nah."
"nah, we'd win"
I swear Shinra has been shooting blanks since they got Zack
Fr tho
It took a few thousand bullets to take down Zack
@@arzfan29 Even that last bullet was supposed to be a headshot and he was able to talk for like 5 minutes afterwards
Stormtroopers: FINALLY A WORTHY OPPONENT
“That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.” That was definitely a Guts moment out of Cloud.
Can’t wait to mod the dragonslayer in when the pc version drops in a year
It’s funny FF7 OG, and the original Berserk, anime came out the same year.
@@joshshrum2764but the manga of berserk came out way before ff7 was a thought. berserk 1989 ff7 og 1997
only problem is that cloud's sword feels like a cardboard cutout and it has those classic korean mmorpg physics where they are massive but move like they're a kitchen knife
it doesn't have the weight and the power of the dragonslayer, and even guts had to struggle to swing with that thing
ベルセルクからの引用も否定出来ないけど、バスターソードの元ネタはクラウドのモデルでもある宮本武蔵が巌流島の決闘で使用したとされる舟のオールを削って作った木剣だと思われる。
That guy who got stabbed is dead dead....
Extra dead 😅
FFX Overkill 9999+
phoenix down wont work
*Soul Evicted from the Livestream*
Nah he good.
It was very polite for those armed shinra troops to stop shooting at Cloud for a few moments so he could have his mental breakdown in peace.
Reminds me of the scene at the start where the Mayor of Nibelheim and his crew has Sephiroth at gunpoint, and they just let him slow walk over and stab them one by one without firing a single shot.
@TheMixEmperor they were in shock, Sep was a war hero than, they saw him as superman or a batman. I think they froze and couldn't believe what is happening
Lmfaoo
When Clouds personality changes he also changes his weapon stance.. that is really cool.
Considering he uses Zacks mannerisms sometimes but in Combat always Zacks style we really need to pay attention to such things in part 3.
And man the facial expressions creep me out.. he really is enjoying it.
Sephiroth baptized him in blood.
Anakin, don't try it.
I am a person master he isn’t even ANYONE I KNOW WHO I AM!.
"You underestimate my POWER!"
He even did the sephiroth stance.
He actually does the Sephiroth stance quite a lot. That opening move he always does when using Limit Breaks. And he takes a similar stance when guarding in Punisher Mode. Which makes sense. Sephiroth was his hero after all.
@@saltyk9869until he was not XD the literal definition of "never meet your heroes/idols" hahaha
@@VChong1991 If you played it, that's the trophy for completing Chapter 1. So yeah, SE agrees.
Its not strictly a Sephiroth stance. Cloud does take that stance, though not very often. For example n his fight against Sephiroth in Remake ending, Cloud takes the same stance when Sephy is tossing his blade beams(?) at him.
Also he uses his left hand as Sephiroth is left handed while Cloud traditionally is right handed l.
Love how he's actually killing them. I found it so stupid in FF7 Remake when he said some shit like "They'll wake up soon" LIKE YOU IS NOT SURVIVING BEING HIT BY A GIANT ASS SWORD lmao
it's a fantasy game after all , these things happen all the time
Lorewise Zack says he uses the buster sword on its blunt side most of the time, lorewise Cloud may use the blunt side when he just wants to knock out people but in gameplay I think it would be too much work to make extra animations for blunt side usage
He is killing them. The difference here, is that he is killing them without mercy due to Sephiroth having control over him. He usually kills to protect
His victims by beach umbrella might have survived... Maybe lol
0:26 man, that's sephiroth's octaslash stance
The way Sephiroth can effortlessly possess Cloud and turn him into a monster is actually really scary.
it IS 😥 that makes me so worried for Part 3. At this rate they're gonna make a Puppet Cloud boss fight in the next game and that's gonna be more painfull than fighting Anti-Aqua and Terranort in KH
is that sephiroth or jenova?
@@MarcustheseerJenova. The true Sephiroth will be key to restoring Cloud in the final game
@@bigtatsu am very curious how there gonna end the story,i get not to expect to much but i kind of am expecting something big,the end of the first game created that expectation.
@@maellesaliou5871or make cloud might against himself which will something Sephiroth did to f him around
Not just the stance and movements, but even demeanor. Cloud usually grunts with his swings due to the weight of his sword. Sephiroth is usually quite when he battles
Remember, Cloud is right handed. Whenever he’s holding his sword with his left hand it ain’t a good thing…
Cloud's fighting style and demeanor very clearly being a copy Sephiroth's is such a nice touch. They're not even hiding the fact that Sephiroth is basically wearing Cloud like skinsuit and turning him into a monster that's completely on autopilot.
People saying 'but we've killed so many people already' are missing the point - he kills to protect his friends and himself, here he's enjoying it under Sephiroth's influence.
Edit - in Remake when they're in the Shinra building a trooper was cowering when Cloud was riding the motorbike through the window, he could've killed him but he didn't - him basically being possessed here turned him into a cold hearted murderer which Tifa called him on.
He's not just under Sephiroth's influence. Sephiroth's is literally controlling his body, it's not cloud in this clip, it's sephiroth. Clouds don't even have any memories of what just happened.
You seem to forget all the innocent people they have put in danger and killed in the process of achieving their goals.
@dannyd4339 again missing the point, they served a purpose and especially with the reactor bombings ofcourse they knew they put people in danger but they weren't out to kill people for sport.
This is what Cloud's doing here as he's being mind controlled by Sephiroth.
this is why i like the original better. it was easier for someone like you to understand, less ambiguos. Avalanche are not good people. they dropped a whole plate and killed thousands.
@@davidmasters8601
@dannyd4339 How's about the more obvious line between morally grey and straight up evil? Cloud, under control, goes from questionable to straight up awful things when under Seph's influence in the original and that's being communicated here just fine.
Cloud did the seph inpalement
The coolest scene ? Or rather the most terrifying yeah 😵 Every scene where you see how deep Sephiroth's control/influence over Cloud runs gives me gosebumps
Raiden watching off in the distance in 'Ripper Mode':
"....I did it first."
He definitely did first
Raiden is way gory than this.
"Sephiroth, turn off my Edge inhibitors!"
@@ig_4220 Sephiroth (does a hyped up Aerith)
Makes you wonder if part 3 will be mature like FF 16 was.
I had the buster sword equipped for this scene as well and I’m not really sure why but it felt as if it amplified it as a result. Maybe because this weapon holds so much value in the story, it was the sword that Cloud used to kill Sephiroth the first time and it belonged to Zack which Cloud adopted his identity from and as a result giving in to Sephiroth’s control and using this weapon that embodies the legacy of righteousness to mercilessly cut down these standard shinra troops betrays Zack and Cloud himself showing that he really is losing himself. At least that’s what I felt watching it
PUPPET CLOUD CONTENT 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Even the lunge he does after taking Sephiroth's stance is nigh-identical to the one Sephiroth uses when he initiates Octaslash in Crisis Core.
you can see that it's sephiroth who attacks and not Cloud. Just the way he holds the sword at head height. Simply great
0:37 his smirk when he effortlessly dodged the bullets. Bro’s a badass and he knows it
Ok... Those people are 100% dead
I really understand you Tifa, I also wouldn’t be able to resist the temptation to watch it for a few minutes before saying it’s enough 🤷🏼♀️
Good to know that last guy was the only one who came packing his ketchup packet, would've ruined Clouds moment if he didn't get that one splurt of blood on his face after chopping down a squadron of goons.
🤣
I love the casual head tilt to dodge bullets. Somehow scarier than the balletic stabby stabby
0:27 1:24 you gotta admit this part was cool asf
I love how its like ‘omg nooo hes turning evil and killing them’ as if he hasnt straight up been making people unalive 24/7 for years now. ‘Oh no he stabbed that guy!’ Meanwhile, focused thrust is like the leading cause of death among shinras male employees in the age bracket 19-49.
Missed the point. It's not about killing them, it's about him enjoying the killing - shown especially when he went the extra step for the last 2 guys. You might remember in Remake and also earlier in Junon he tried to not kill if possible.
I shouldn’t have giggled at the last sentence
Its not about killing ppl its about HOW he kills them. He enjoy it this time. Also if Tifa didnt show up he would have killed Scarlet for sure with some badass action
When everything is normal only the player enjoys the bloodbath and Cloud doesn't. Here, Cloud enjoys it as well.
With all the Shinra soldiers we've defeated up to this point...were we just making them unconscious this whole time?
I’d just assumed it’s like the Batman/Yakuza rule of nothing you fight dies unless it’s in a cutscene or explicitly stated. Either way though the things that’s agreeably wrong is how overkill Cloud went. He Advent Children lifted that one Shinra troop then the other that was barely crawling away he murdered in cold blood
@@metalgearskeletor yeah thats a fair interpretation ill prob go with too
Maybe he just hits them with the side of his sword. not the sharp edges.
@@Rydiculous gotta prevent that wear, tear and rust after all
@@Rydiculous Yeah, I like to assume he's hitting from the blunt side to just knock them out.
Cloud The Dark Side of Force
The last boss of part 3. Evil Cloud. Which means Zack will be the main character of part 3. This is why Kadaj called him "brother"
In your wet dreams only.
bro stopped wielding a great sword and switched to longsword mode
I miss this game so much...just playing it....and part 3 is so far away.
I didn't know Cloud had a Kakarot mode 🥶
Anyone else getting Star War vibes from this scene.
Honestly this Cloud would be a lot more efficient though. Imagine if his friends didn't stop him from killing the threats that they consistently spare only to be harassed by three more times.
Imagine how much easier and simpler their journey would have been if they'd just killed Hojo instead of letting him walk away, or the Turks instead of letting them walk away three or four times. They really don't do themselves any favours with their mercy.
This was as great as the Darth Vader hallways scene from Rogue One.
And he slaughters them for around 35-40 seconds, exactly how long it was in Rogue One but in 2 parts. The first one takes from 0:25 to 0:45 and the second from 1:00 to 1:15 or 1:20 .
And just like Darth Vader there is at least 2 people inside Cloud.. Like Cloud, Zack and Sephiroth as in Anakin, Vader and Palpatine.. and Sephiroth is kinda is Palpatine. Crazy I never realized this before.
This shit was peak fantasy. You have shinra and scarlet. Tifa swinging around. Whispers. A weapon. Cloud coming to save the day, and then the iconic villain just showing up to fuck everything up for everyone. Followed by a lifestream sequence.
This was the single greatest change/addition to the story that this trilogy has done. The Aerith dream date is also up there, but obviously for very different reasons.
the remix of the whispers theme during gongaga is s tier
Everyone stops firing when his guard is down..
0:35 I remember yelling at my TV "Fuck off! Get the hell outta here with that shit!" When I saw him do that, "nothing personel, kid" shit when dodging the bullets. Like its funny to laugh at, but it made me hold my face and shake my head.
Cloud really just used the Dark Side of the Force 😂😂😂😂
My personal philosophy: if a dude you’re shooting at starts dodging them things like Luffy at sabody that is the moment to cut and RUN!!!
No one got murdered, guys. In case you missed it, they had machine guns, which they were using on a guy with a sword.
Well he didn't have to kill the one literally crawling away
@@umhi9778he was crawling to his GUN.
To do what?
It's not murder if they're fighting back
Now imagine, that grunt who got impaled on the sword could technically be someone like a 16 y. o. baby Cloud. It makes it even more disturbing if you think of it
Didn't know star wars had an adaptation like this.
Why they just randomly stop shooting when he was just standing there?
So many great scenes
0:26 Sephiroth mode activated. 1:10 all of a sudden fighting left handed like Sephiroth.
BUT SEPHIROTH INTERVENED
I personally like to think that this is Cloud at his full potential, not being held back by any morals or ethics, just simple mindedly killing his enemies. Though he was still influenced by Sephiroth of course.
Cloud killing his former comrades and they still admire him for it later.
Cloud went sicko mode
Wish cloud could be that deadly in real
Time battle 🙃
Zack fights and defeats the goddess Minerva, also Zack: dies to a few Shinra troopers
A few is a heavy understatement. It was at least 1000
@@Slasher-- it’s amazing he didn’t think of using magic or summon materia
@@bennycambridge9712 i mean he probably did. Maybe he was out of mana
Cloud is skilled but needs the power of plot to win against Sephiroth not hated on Cloud just saying Sephiroth is just that overpowered.
There needs to be a picture of Sephiroth in the dictionary next to the word 'gaslighting' 😂😂
Why no blood. Nvm a tiny speck at the end
Cloud channels Guts.
Tifa acting like they haven't been killing Shinra goons for months already
I lost my shit at this scene man. So fucking good
Yikes! Like that dude probably cut straight in half
I was wondering why there are no blood everytime he kill someone until he stab the last guy
They can't show to much blood, unless it's relevant to the story. It's pg13 or something like that. They changed blood for purple glowing goo at the end of remake in Shinra tower
We’re lucky that there even is blood in this game. Remake didn’t have a spec of blood
Imagine having a buster sword that deep through you
there are people out there who would pay for that kind of treatment ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Cloud is completely possessed by Sephiroth in this scene. Those are Sephiroth’s moves, not Cloud’s.
"That's enough!", Lady we've been slaughtering Shinra goons by the truckloads for one and a half games at this point what are you talking about. I guess murdering in self defense evil-y is worse than good-ily.
Should've had the guys running or something to show Cloud's going overboard. I mean the dude on the ground is reaching for a gun, he's still a threat, have him cowering in fear or something.
First class Soldier are powerful enough to change the course of war...if only Tifa and Aerith din't hold Cloud back...the plate wont have drop and Jessie wont have to die including hundreds more innocent soul.
Me when I Play Cloud on Smash Bros Ultimate (Genuinely making my opponent sweaty)
Anyone notice he’s fighting like sephiroth?
Definitely didn't notice that. Nor did I notice the obvious possession by Sephiroth. LOL
所作がホントにセフィロスで震えました
Anybody but me notice he’s using Sephiroth’s stance in this scene?
Well theres something about "Cloud" we learn in Part 3 of the Remake, because in the OG he was.......
That's not how you dodge bullets
This seems to be the most complete takeover sephiroth did to cloud, his fighting style completely changed to sephiroth’s, though I wonder why this of all places did sephiroth do this
Remake , Rebirth, Revolution … cloud will turn evil 😅
It's a good thing the bad guys all Im at his sword.
He evolved from edgelord to evil master.
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congratulations.
Not an edgelord....
@@grimjawlords1 well....not anymore LOL
thats not cloud, thats Kloud.
There should have been so much more blood
İ want blood as a mod when it comes to pc🙏
Cool
What chapter is this?
Towards the end of chapter 9….Gongaga reactor
this scene is stupid, they murdered hundreds of shinra troops, but here, oh no its too much. was i supose be believe his blade was dull and barret was using rubber bullets before ?
It’s not about them dying . It’s the way he’s going about it. nobody on the crew enjoys killing them and tifa laments about it a lot in part 1 but her cloud is very clearly enjoying it.
@@cathyas3749barret enjoy it, and she never chasticized him even after they found people at shinra are people working to suport their family in the glass tower so....
BS
It's because it's out of charcater for cloud, he doesn't enjoy killing, he doesn't necessarily hate it, but he wouldn't go out of his way to do it. Here, he kills a wounded, crawling troop, which he would have never done before, as shown in the Remake in Shinra Tower. It's overkill, and unnecessary, plus the smile on his face of enjoyment is something he would never show in response to killing.
It demonstrates Sephiroths influence on Cloud, the possession and control he has over him. Shown through the use of left hand and stances.
@@bladerj Barret talks big, but never enjoyed killing. He didn't go around killing everyone in the tower. Both in Remake AND OG. And I believe that's a major character trait that was continuously implied in story. This was strongly emphasized in his character arc in Gold Saucer.
So the point is, none of the party enjoys killing, and has been doing so mostly in self-defence. Here the point is that "Cloud" is enjoying the killing
@@zackang4731say what ? he enjoyed the shit of murdering the pursuit bikers in remake and in rebirth,he also murdered troops with his friend, and he wanted payaback on shinra, payback on a building ? no, on troopers, he has bloodlust.
😂
Cloud is Sephiroth copy and Brainwashed by Zack so that why ge so badass 😂
Typical puppet behavior
Them soldiERs need more training and bettER weapons
We've been killing these soldiers since the beginning of the last game. What's the issue now?
Wait?! we have murdered from left to right, but its a problem now?
but yeah its a pretty cool scene.
Its more circumstance. Like why everyone was stopping Mustang from killing Envy. Or Anakin killing all the Sand People.
@@LordVanOskuro thats a fair solid point
@@Blomstermark Yeah, it was always for self defense up until this point. But Cloud enjoying the brutality is a very different and way more concerning moment in context.
Because the Real problem is that in that scene, Sephiroth is making Cloud enjoy killing, which isn't in character with Cloud who was never that starved for blood before
Well it's problem in the remake,
In the original the team was killing people left and right, you even killed Rufus's dog
While in the remake they don't want to kill people even like President Shinra and all that, so they don't kill people, I believe they just beat them really hard.
So it's a difference in story, killing in fma would be seen as bad
while killing in Naruto would seen as Fine.
Is it sword or a fricking bonk stick? The guy is literally slicing poor soldiers into a salad but no blood and no dismemberment. Why make the scene that will look so unreal and sterilized that it will be the very opposite of thrill and rather urge to faceplam from cringe?
cuz it’s a T rated game
@@ChaseR206 abe s oddworld and jedi knight - exists. It s just a poor excuse for a bad scene. If you know that you re not allowed to show some serious stuff then why do you make the scene in the first place? Make the scene that will bring to the story the same context but will not be so cringe and comical
the cringe. sephiroth worked in OG ff7 because you didnt even see him for most of the game. thats why he worked. they just dont get it
Yeah I’ll pass like the first one. Good game ruined with super cringe over the top anime cliches added
that.... is the point.
Lol I went from why can't they shoot him to dang cloud take it easy lolz
Cloud: The ROFLknife demands blood Todd. C? LISTEN.
ROFLknife: give blood k thx lol