Awesome video which adds to my understanding of ILS approaches. Please continue making these videos, you do a great job explaining the concepts. Agree with others that this is not a beginner video but neither is flying in general. There's a lot to learn and know, doubt anyone could explain 20 hours of content and knowledge that is required in 22 minutes. Be patient, watch other videos and you'll always pick up something new.
this is a good tutorial however for some reason we cant see your mouse pointer whenever you open up your approach chart so we cant follow what you're trying to show us on the chart
Great video. Thanks. Saw your little mistake on the outbound teardrop course of 60 deg. which caused the slight overshooting of the inbound leg of the ILS but saw that you recongnized it too. Always enjoy your videos.
Important notes about backcourses: - Don't fly a backcourse if there isn't a published procedure or chart for it. The sim may not model this, idk, but as I understand it, they can be unreliable IRL if not tuned for the purpose. - Most backcourses don't have vertical guidance; they're localizer-only. This will be mentioned on the chart if that's the case (i.e. "Disregard glide slope indications").
Mismatch in the barometric settings of the altimeter and the autopilot? That could explain why you were 100ft too high in the beginning of the approach.
Where did you get your 172? It is significantly different than the one that comes by default in MS FS2020. I love the combination of analogue guages with only a minimum amount of digital accessories to ease the work load. The 172 in MS FS2020 is entirely a G1000 glass cockpit.
I have a challenge for you P Gatcomb. I was recently flying to KTCM and given this approach instruction "KOBOLD 1524, you are 25 miles north. Maintain present heading and altitude. Expect ILS runway 16 approach via TCM 257 radial, 100 DME arc. Cleared to TCM" What are we supposed to do here? What even is the 100 DME arc??
Great video! Very well explained. As I started flying only a momth ago with the release of the msfs2020 I have watched around 15 different videos about ils but this one waa the best one. Thank you! ...any chance you could do also omentutorial for mooney m20r ovation? I am struglimg with it a bit there
Love your video! 5:27, I assume it should be slightly off to the right? And can we use the nav mode on the way to KIBBE with the second navigation gauge (the one with 113.00), instead of using heading mode? 11:35, was it supposed to be 90 degree? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm new to all this, but since it's a teardrop and not an offset entry, the initial heading from KIBBE should be 90, right?
Question: Is this little teardrop lap at the entry point mandatory? Why not go into the ILS course just with a right turn? If so, why not use the other radials that don't have that? Also: Why is there a radial just 1nm before the runway? How can that possibly be enough time to line up for the ils?
Hello. As others have mentioned - your mouse pointer is not visible when you are over the chart, which makes it very hard to follow. Great insturction - thank you for that - if we could see where you are pointing on the plate :-)
Excellent as all of your videos. Im only flying the 152 w/o and 172 with g1000. And I’m having a hard time when there’s no ILS/Glideslope. What other precision approaches are available? GPS/RNAV maybe?
Is it possible to explain it step by step and not just show being done . I got lost with what you are changing. What and why the Changing you are making. Thanks
Awesome ! I did 2 more flights, just like this one...nice and smooth, actually very easy :) I flew one day + one night time. One question, how do you get distance to airport to show up on Garmin 530 ? Do you need to have WPT selected ?
Thank you for this! Can you please do a video on missed approach? When I miss the runway I get ALL mixed up how to get back on the approach cause the GPS does not "reset".
Hi, you might find my video helpful on missed approaches, I show you how to set the GPS back up after completion of the missed approach procedure: czcams.com/video/bWlsDuXcgWw/video.html
Awesome ! Thank you for sharing :) I did exactly the same flight, monkey see, monkey do :) How do you display distance on NAV1 ? My AP got a bit shaky, need to recap. Managed to calm down the plane, captured GS fine :) Rest was good, need to do same run again.
Hi Ken. From what I can gather, you can certainly plan for an ILS in the World Map page, but no, I've not seen the actual frequencies anywhere as an option. You can pretty much Google different charts and approach plates or there are many sites that will help. SkyVector is excellent (if you're in the US. I can't find charts in it for elsewhere), I have a paid subscription to Navigraph - also excellent and world wide. And some countries like Australia have free access to charts and supplements as well.
@@weepingeye Thanks! FSX had all frequencies available with a mouse click hovered over a runway. Perhaps this will be added to MSFS at a later date, I hope.
If a runway is ILS enabled then the frequency can be viewed within the world map prior to flight. To view the frequency select "open filters" and select NAVAIDS . The VOR/DME (ILS) can be clicked on and the frequency will display in the information section. By default the world map does not display NAVAIDS. Be sure to activate NAVAIDS in the filter. Some of the planes can list the ILS runway and frequency while in flight when selecting airports in range. I'm having fun with the G1000 and having the ILS populate while on approach.
@P Gatcomb, I really like your videos, but why do you use the word TREE for THREE (i.e. 233 = TWO TREE TREE). Is that a Connecticut thing? Just curious.
its a good practice while talking over radio as "three" can be mistaken for other words such as "free" whilst tree is more identifiable. Another number is 5 which can be pronounced as "fife" but less people use this. Another is 9 which is pronounced "Niner" (This is down to "Nine" sounding like "Nein" being the german word for No) . It is in the same vein of the phonetic alphabet where words and pronunciations are chosen in order to make it easy to distinguish.
AGREE completely. But you have that capability by changing the playbacks speed in CZcams. Hit the three dots in the top right corner of the window and make your changes there.
@@robertmcmanus6233 There is a specific video where he explains which internet sources he uses to organize his flights. This video is about ILS approach, not about tools used for planning the flight. Here: czcams.com/video/0z6xMxFmVRI/video.html
@@windshearahead7012 Exactly.... this does not mean that we cannot help each others. If you watch a video about ILS approach, the minimum baseline is that you know what is ILS frequency and where to put it, where to get that specific ILS approach frequency (hence the charts), and so on. But again, if you are a beginner does not mean the community doesn't have to help you. Cheers.
I want to trust you, but cannot. You apparently are not IFR rated (you've never given us your bonafides, and have made WAY TOO many basic mistakes in other IFR-related videos). Great voice though.
He didn't claim to be IFR rated, and has said he's no longer an active pilot. What he IS is a sim enthusiast who is better at teaching the basics of IFR than the other CZcamsrs I've seen. For that - yeah, I trust him just fine.
i want to trust you, but cannot. you've never given us your bonafides. care to elaborate on the WAY TOO many basic mistakes Gatcomb has allegedly made in his other IFR-related videos?
Great video thanks. I like flying "old school" without the GPS like this. All the best.
The chart he is using is skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/00460IL24.PDF. I looked at it on a separate monitor which made it easier to follow.
Awesome video which adds to my understanding of ILS approaches. Please continue making these videos, you do a great job explaining the concepts. Agree with others that this is not a beginner video but neither is flying in general. There's a lot to learn and know, doubt anyone could explain 20 hours of content and knowledge that is required in 22 minutes. Be patient, watch other videos and you'll always pick up something new.
this is a good tutorial however for some reason we cant see your mouse pointer whenever you open up your approach chart so we cant follow what you're trying to show us on the chart
Pro trick: you can watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching loads of movies these days.
@Zachary Cohen Definitely, have been using Flixzone for months myself :D
@Zachary Cohen yup, I have been using Flixzone for since november myself =)
great job ..i was struggling with FS 20 given the differences with previous version...until i started watching your videos....thanks again...
Great video. Wish I had these available when doing my own sim flights.
Great video. Thanks. Saw your little mistake on the outbound teardrop course of 60 deg. which caused the slight overshooting of the inbound leg of the ILS but saw that you recongnized it too. Always enjoy your videos.
Important notes about backcourses:
- Don't fly a backcourse if there isn't a published procedure or chart for it. The sim may not model this, idk, but as I understand it, they can be unreliable IRL if not tuned for the purpose.
- Most backcourses don't have vertical guidance; they're localizer-only. This will be mentioned on the chart if that's the case (i.e. "Disregard glide slope indications").
That was awesome! I’m just beginning instrument training. That video helped a lot. Thanks for your efforts. 👍🏼
Another really helpful video, thanks so much!
I am confused. I thought that the loop on the approach plate represents a holding pattern? Isn't that not required unless told to hold by ATC?
You can't see your mouse when you try to show where were are on the plate maps.
Mismatch in the barometric settings of the altimeter and the autopilot? That could explain why you were 100ft too high in the beginning of the approach.
Where did you get your 172? It is significantly different than the one that comes by default in MS FS2020. I love the combination of analogue guages with only a minimum amount of digital accessories to ease the work load. The 172 in MS FS2020 is entirely a G1000 glass cockpit.
The DeLuxe version of the MSFS2020 has both versions of the 172.
Very well done tutorial. Thank you!
Always love your content
I can't see mouse cursor when you show maps.
I have a challenge for you P Gatcomb. I was recently flying to KTCM and given this approach instruction
"KOBOLD 1524, you are 25 miles north. Maintain present heading and altitude. Expect ILS runway 16 approach via TCM 257 radial, 100 DME arc. Cleared to TCM"
What are we supposed to do here? What even is the 100 DME arc??
Love these videos! Any chance we could get an rnav approach lesson with the g530/430 sometime?
Great video! Very well explained. As I started flying only a momth ago with the release of the msfs2020 I have watched around 15 different videos about ils but this one waa the best one. Thank you! ...any chance you could do also omentutorial for mooney m20r ovation? I am struglimg with it a bit there
When is the optimal point for deactivating the AP with ILS/GS?
Before you hit the ground.
Thank you very much, Learning a lot :)
how to get c172 classic on fs2020 ?
Love your video!
5:27, I assume it should be slightly off to the right?
And can we use the nav mode on the way to KIBBE with the second navigation gauge (the one with 113.00), instead of using heading mode?
11:35, was it supposed to be 90 degree? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm new to all this, but since it's a teardrop and not an offset entry, the initial heading from KIBBE should be 90, right?
Question: Is this little teardrop lap at the entry point mandatory? Why not go into the ILS course just with a right turn? If so, why not use the other radials that don't have that?
Also: Why is there a radial just 1nm before the runway? How can that possibly be enough time to line up for the ils?
Hello. As others have mentioned - your mouse pointer is not visible when you are over the chart, which makes it very hard to follow. Great insturction - thank you for that - if we could see where you are pointing on the plate :-)
Excellent!
Excellent as all of your videos.
Im only flying the 152 w/o and 172 with g1000.
And I’m having a hard time when there’s no ILS/Glideslope.
What other precision approaches are available? GPS/RNAV maybe?
Is it possible to explain it step by step and not just show being done . I got lost with what you are changing. What and why the Changing you are making.
Thanks
lol @ the tower controller continually denying P's AI copilot's request to land in the background (20:20)
Awesome ! I did 2 more flights, just like this one...nice and smooth, actually very easy :) I flew one day + one night time. One question, how do you get distance to airport to show up on Garmin 530 ? Do you need to have WPT selected ?
Thank you for this! Can you please do a video on missed approach? When I miss the runway I get ALL mixed up how to get back on the approach cause the GPS does not "reset".
Hi, you might find my video helpful on missed approaches, I show you how to set the GPS back up after completion of the missed approach procedure: czcams.com/video/bWlsDuXcgWw/video.html
Awesome ! Thank you for sharing :) I did exactly the same flight, monkey see, monkey do :) How do you display distance on NAV1 ? My AP got a bit shaky, need to recap. Managed to calm down the plane, captured GS fine :) Rest was good, need to do same run again.
Are the ILS frequencies not available in MSFS?
Hi Ken. From what I can gather, you can certainly plan for an ILS in the World Map page, but no, I've not seen the actual frequencies anywhere as an option. You can pretty much Google different charts and approach plates or there are many sites that will help. SkyVector is excellent (if you're in the US. I can't find charts in it for elsewhere), I have a paid subscription to Navigraph - also excellent and world wide. And some countries like Australia have free access to charts and supplements as well.
@@weepingeye Thanks! FSX had all frequencies available with a mouse click hovered over a runway. Perhaps this will be added to MSFS at a later date, I hope.
If a runway is ILS enabled then the frequency can be viewed within the world map prior to flight. To view the frequency select "open filters" and select NAVAIDS . The VOR/DME (ILS) can be clicked on and the frequency will display in the information section. By default the world map does not display NAVAIDS. Be sure to activate NAVAIDS in the filter. Some of the planes can list the ILS runway and frequency while in flight when selecting airports in range. I'm having fun with the G1000 and having the ILS populate while on approach.
@@coreymalis3851 Thanks mate. I'll be sure to try that.
@P Gatcomb, I really like your videos, but why do you use the word TREE for THREE (i.e. 233 = TWO TREE TREE). Is that a Connecticut thing? Just curious.
its a good practice while talking over radio as "three" can be mistaken for other words such as "free" whilst tree is more identifiable. Another number is 5 which can be pronounced as "fife" but less people use this. Another is 9 which is pronounced "Niner" (This is down to "Nine" sounding like "Nein" being the german word for No) . It is in the same vein of the phonetic alphabet where words and pronunciations are chosen in order to make it easy to distinguish.
NATO phonetic alphabet, that's why
whilst. SMH
How come my Cessna 172 cockpit looks different than this one? How do I get conventional instruments?
Deluxe version
How do download cessna plane with that layout.
It’s included in the deluxe version of fs2020
Deluxe version!? Darn it. I love this layout compared to the default one. Hard to zoom in while playing on the Xbox. The Garmin UI is tiny for me.
@@fergatROn yeah I think the g1000 172 should be on the deluxe version and the steam gauge panel on standard
does anyone know if its possible to upgrade from standard to deluxe if we bought the game on steam?
For some reason when I engage auto pilot the plane goes crazy!!
Great!
This tutorial assumes a LOT of prior knowledge.
How do you output the approach plate into a pdf like this from Skyvector?
Did you sort your problem?
G1000 FTW
mouse doesnt show on chart, also hes left VERY importnat info out, like the VOR freq for kibbie
This would be more helpful if he slowed down his delivery by about 50% and told us where the heck the chart comes from!
AGREE completely. But you have that capability by changing the playbacks speed in CZcams. Hit the three dots in the top right corner of the window and make your changes there.
@@dhblan8591 Thanks. But not on my screen. And I still don't know how you view the charts.
@@robertmcmanus6233 There is a specific video where he explains which internet sources he uses to organize his flights. This video is about ILS approach, not about tools used for planning the flight.
Here: czcams.com/video/0z6xMxFmVRI/video.html
bruh this is not for beginners. If you have no clue where chart comes from in the first place, go start somewhere else
@@windshearahead7012 Exactly.... this does not mean that we cannot help each others. If you watch a video about ILS approach, the minimum baseline is that you know what is ILS frequency and where to put it, where to get that specific ILS approach frequency (hence the charts), and so on.
But again, if you are a beginner does not mean the community doesn't have to help you.
Cheers.
I hate the two tree eight way of saying it. Drives me nuts. And don't tell me why.. I know..
Sorry can’t follow you.
you speak way to fast, think about the non english viewers next time please...
i put the speed of the vid at 0,75x so i can follow it
I'm sorry to inform you, but English is the international language in aviation.
@@djCalVic i know but for learning purposes he's going a little fast
@@djCalVic I'm English and I think he was talking way too fast. He also mumbles at the end of sentences which makes him difficult to follow.
@@MaxFluff English is my first language and I have difficulty too.
Way to fast man! Impossible to follow, let alone to learn from it. Pity..
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I want to trust you, but cannot. You apparently are not IFR rated (you've never given us your bonafides, and have made WAY TOO many basic mistakes in other IFR-related videos). Great voice though.
He didn't claim to be IFR rated, and has said he's no longer an active pilot. What he IS is a sim enthusiast who is better at teaching the basics of IFR than the other CZcamsrs I've seen. For that - yeah, I trust him just fine.
didn't realize you had to be ifr rated to fly a sim and talk about how you do it...
i want to trust you, but cannot. you've never given us your bonafides. care to elaborate on the WAY TOO many basic mistakes Gatcomb has allegedly made in his other IFR-related videos?
you talk a thousand miles an hour dont get it...
There's a pause button. He's literally explaining elementary level shit as far as aviation goes.
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