Great video. That one made sense until you started messing with your procedure turn. Picked you back up when you headed back to the airport. Thanks for doing these!!
Would be nice if you loaded the approach into the G1000 instead of just flying it by hand. I really want to see how the Garmin sequences a VOR approach.
So to help some of the newer people out to VOR i'll explain a few simple things to help you try to understand the video. So VOR is like a roadway in the sky where the beacon being picked up by your DME(distance measuring equipment) tells you how far you are from that intersection(the vor beacon). Vor is not GPS,VOR is almost actually unheard of being used but it is like a failsafe if your GPS clunks out and every pilot needs to know how to do it. So a compass has 360 "radials or degrees so say you start straightshot north of vor beacon ABC and you want to go from ABC to vor beacon DEF. To start you would fly a course of 180 which is straight south to get from north of the beacon heading south towards the beacon now. Then say DEF is directly East of ABC. Once you get to ABC you turn 90 degrees left from 180 so now your on the 90th degree radial from the ABC to get to DEF. So one easy way is 360=pure north and its direct opposite is 180=pure south 90 would be pure east 270 would be pure west. So if you started flying to DEF and your engine clunks out and ABC is the closest airport you would turn from a heading of 180 to 360 to get back to ABC. Now I used pure north south to explain and show as example the radials and if you ever have to directly back track that it would be 180 degrees from what heading your on. So now you know that say you were coming to ABC from XYZ on the 257th radial from XYZ and DEF is 90 degrees from ABC you would turn 93 degrees once you fly over the station ABC to get to DEF because your coming in offset 3 degrees to ABC plus the 90 to be facing directly towards DEF. Clear as mud, lets now all thank god for GPS🤣
Dont want to sound grumpy so trying to make sure this is a constructive comment. I have literally following each of these videos one by one like they would be a flying course. The reason most of the first 25 were so helpful in learning is that i was able to replicate what was being done almost identically. In this case i have no idea if i can understand what has been shown because it was just being shown. I dont know how to replicate this when the flight start at 8,600 feet near Rambo. I would love if all the videos would be taking off from somewhere, flying and landing elsewhere, etc... in a way that i can replicate what is being done. That said, thanks for the great videos i have learned a lot. Just not how to land using VOR
@@Kryptonic83 okay yea i see it now. I guess i was waiting for a positive from indication before the pilot began the descent inside the faf as its defined by the vor.
Procedure turn, offset entry - this is NOT an easy way to learn about VOR approaches.WOuld be a good idea to convey the usefulness of a VOR to begin with
You're gonna laugh at this, but I need to ask - you're not related to one Tucker Carlson, are you? My wife asked from the kitchen if I was watching Tucker's show while I was watching one of your videos. Your voice is very distinctive! And I love your channel. Love the banter and humor. Keep it coming!
I'm trying to learn how to navigate using vor in the basic cessna, I don't recall the model. When I put in the vor frequency I want to head to and select it as active. My obs gauge doesn't change. Any idea where I'm going wrong?
Yes, it will be very common if the VOR is not located at the airport. Then you will have some VOR's located that the airport but is not close to the runway, this will happen more at bigger airports with more than one runway. There is the occasion where you VOR is not at the airport but is in line with the runway and if that is the case you be inline with the runway. Here are two examples. Even when located at the airport there might be a slight offset and that will be the case most of the time because the VOR is not on the runway. VOR at the airport: APP CRS 134 deg with runway heading of 144 deg. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/00473VDT14.PDF VOR off airport in line with runway: APP CRS 095 deg with runway heading of 095 Deg. VOR is 10nm from end of runway. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/06920VDA.PDF
Here is one where the VOR is off airport and landing on the runway from a different direction. Yes, this is a military base but that has nothing to do with it. There could be reasons why they plan them this way. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/00500VDT5L.PDF Then you have something like this one where you use two different VOR stations to land and both VOR's are off airport. This is the for Jack Northrop Field/Hawthorne Muni (HHR) loacted near LAX. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/05120V25.PDF
Can you show us a proc input for an approach in flight? Every time I set it up on the G3000 it keeps sending me back to the waypoint before the transition waypoint.
same, but i think it is a bug. The only thing you can do is, type all in before you start, which is unrealistic, given that atc will give you the approach and runway
@@spinning_elbow Thank you! I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I was doing incorrectly. It's quite frustrating, I hope MS corrects it in the next update.
You don’t have to be at 2500 crossing the IAF you have to be at or ABOVE 2500, you nosed down and blew through your altitude for no reason, it’s not an offset entry it’s a parallel entry, when you are clear for the approach you will only fly the course reversal and continue inbound you will never continue to hold unless specifically told to do so, radar vectors are NOT for guiding an aircraft to the ground, radar vectors are for establishing on the final approach course with no procedure turn, your minimums were not 1200 look at the plate again since you have DME your mins were 580 and 1, 1200 should have just been for a step down fix, you don’t use DME to determine station passage that’s what the flip on the HSI is for, also supposed to do left traffic, you made a right base, you don’t use time for the missed approach point since you are DME equipped, your MAP should have just been 7.1 DME, if you’re going to do tutorial videos this stuff needs to be correct.
Alex J you are probably correct, but I was especially hard on him because he keeps talking about “real life / real airplanes” when it’s painfully obvious he’s not instrument rated and is attempting to teach IAPs
Would you consider changing your regular curser into a larger red arrow or something similar when you make these videos? Much of the time, I can't see what you're pointing to. Also, where can we read about your credentials. You sort of allude to them, and would like to know before I invest time into your channel. Thanks.
This isn't a tutorial, its just you babbling off words so quick no one can absorb them..... There's a difference to explaining stuff and saying what you're doing
Dud I honestly have you on low-speed speech and you are still speaking very fast. I recommend you redo that video and make sure to be talking to people who are new to VOR, and talk slower, please. that's why we came to your channel. it's horrible I don't understand anything from it. I am sorry if I sound rude, I know you are trying to help, I think you for your afford.
I am glad I found this channel. Manchester saying Hi. Thanks for the info.
Very informative video. Thank you for doing these great tutorials. There very helpful.
Great video. That one made sense until you started messing with your procedure turn. Picked you back up when you headed back to the airport. Thanks for doing these!!
You can position your plane with slew mode :) Just press Y then A or F1 to descend. Thanks for these videos. Learning a lot.
Would be nice if you loaded the approach into the G1000 instead of just flying it by hand. I really want to see how the Garmin sequences a VOR approach.
Nice vid, Explained well, I disagree with the speed comments, great for refresher before a ride. Vid can be slowed down if too fast 0.75
thank god u r FEN here thank u so much
So to help some of the newer people out to VOR i'll explain a few simple things to help you try to understand the video. So VOR is like a roadway in the sky where the beacon being picked up by your DME(distance measuring equipment) tells you how far you are from that intersection(the vor beacon). Vor is not GPS,VOR is almost actually unheard of being used but it is like a failsafe if your GPS clunks out and every pilot needs to know how to do it. So a compass has 360 "radials or degrees so say you start straightshot north of vor beacon ABC and you want to go from ABC to vor beacon DEF. To start you would fly a course of 180 which is straight south to get from north of the beacon heading south towards the beacon now. Then say DEF is directly East of ABC. Once you get to ABC you turn 90 degrees left from 180 so now your on the 90th degree radial from the ABC to get to DEF. So one easy way is 360=pure north and its direct opposite is 180=pure south 90 would be pure east 270 would be pure west. So if you started flying to DEF and your engine clunks out and ABC is the closest airport you would turn from a heading of 180 to 360 to get back to ABC. Now I used pure north south to explain and show as example the radials and if you ever have to directly back track that it would be 180 degrees from what heading your on. So now you know that say you were coming to ABC from XYZ on the 257th radial from XYZ and DEF is 90 degrees from ABC you would turn 93 degrees once you fly over the station ABC to get to DEF because your coming in offset 3 degrees to ABC plus the 90 to be facing directly towards DEF. Clear as mud, lets now all thank god for GPS🤣
Dont want to sound grumpy so trying to make sure this is a constructive comment. I have literally following each of these videos one by one like they would be a flying course. The reason most of the first 25 were so helpful in learning is that i was able to replicate what was being done almost identically. In this case i have no idea if i can understand what has been shown because it was just being shown. I dont know how to replicate this when the flight start at 8,600 feet near Rambo. I would love if all the videos would be taking off from somewhere, flying and landing elsewhere, etc... in a way that i can replicate what is being done. That said, thanks for the great videos i have learned a lot. Just not how to land using VOR
Great video. Thanks
A few months ago there wasn't any traffic anywhere.
When you cross the station, do you not get a FROM indication in MSFS 2020?
I think depends on the plane. In this plane you can see the green arrow goes from the top to bottom 12:38
@@Kryptonic83 okay yea i see it now. I guess i was waiting for a positive from indication before the pilot began the descent inside the faf as its defined by the vor.
Well done, dude.
Procedure turn, offset entry - this is NOT an easy way to learn about VOR approaches.WOuld be a good idea to convey the usefulness of a VOR to begin with
You're gonna laugh at this, but I need to ask - you're not related to one Tucker Carlson, are you? My wife asked from the kitchen if I was watching Tucker's show while I was watching one of your videos. Your voice is very distinctive! And I love your channel. Love the banter and humor. Keep it coming!
You can position your plane with slew mode :) Just press Y then A or F1 to descend. Thanks for these videos. Learning a lot.
I'm trying to learn how to navigate using vor in the basic cessna, I don't recall the model.
When I put in the vor frequency I want to head to and select it as active. My obs gauge doesn't change. Any idea where I'm going wrong?
Is a turn like that right before the runway common? That surprised me that you wouldn't be coming straight in from a longer distance.
Yes, it will be very common if the VOR is not located at the airport. Then you will have some VOR's located that the airport but is not close to the runway, this will happen more at bigger airports with more than one runway. There is the occasion where you VOR is not at the airport but is in line with the runway and if that is the case you be inline with the runway.
Here are two examples. Even when located at the airport there might be a slight offset and that will be the case most of the time because the VOR is not on the runway.
VOR at the airport: APP CRS 134 deg with runway heading of 144 deg. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/00473VDT14.PDF
VOR off airport in line with runway: APP CRS 095 deg with runway heading of 095 Deg. VOR is 10nm from end of runway. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/06920VDA.PDF
Here is one where the VOR is off airport and landing on the runway from a different direction. Yes, this is a military base but that has nothing to do with it. There could be reasons why they plan them this way. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/00500VDT5L.PDF
Then you have something like this one where you use two different VOR stations to land and both VOR's are off airport. This is the for Jack Northrop Field/Hawthorne Muni (HHR) loacted near LAX. skyvector.com/files/tpp/2010/pdf/05120V25.PDF
Can you show us a proc input for an approach in flight? Every time I set it up on the G3000 it keeps sending me back to the waypoint before the transition waypoint.
same, but i think it is a bug. The only thing you can do is, type all in before you start, which is unrealistic, given that atc will give you the approach and runway
@@spinning_elbow Thank you! I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I was doing incorrectly. It's quite frustrating, I hope MS corrects it in the next update.
Is the download bug fixed yet? I'm afraid to shut of the sim now after 12 hour to download it again. & Toronto still looks like poopoo
NICE THANKS. IT HELPS ME=)
Is it should be parallel entry
1st! Great video!
You don’t have to be at 2500 crossing the IAF you have to be at or ABOVE 2500, you nosed down and blew through your altitude for no reason, it’s not an offset entry it’s a parallel entry, when you are clear for the approach you will only fly the course reversal and continue inbound you will never continue to hold unless specifically told to do so, radar vectors are NOT for guiding an aircraft to the ground, radar vectors are for establishing on the final approach course with no procedure turn, your minimums were not 1200 look at the plate again since you have DME your mins were 580 and 1, 1200 should have just been for a step down fix, you don’t use DME to determine station passage that’s what the flip on the HSI is for, also supposed to do left traffic, you made a right base, you don’t use time for the missed approach point since you are DME equipped, your MAP should have just been 7.1 DME, if you’re going to do tutorial videos this stuff needs to be correct.
Little bit harsh but you're not wrong. Albeit factual, maybe a tad bit of sugar instead of vinegar would suffice.
Alex J you are probably correct, but I was especially hard on him because he keeps talking about “real life / real airplanes” when it’s painfully obvious he’s not instrument rated and is attempting to teach IAPs
Thanks for the tutorials your style is a bit fast but you seem to look like Wags from Eagle Dynamics. (DCS) Keep up the tutorials.
Would you consider changing your regular curser into a larger red arrow or something similar when you make these videos? Much of the time, I can't see what you're pointing to. Also, where can we read about your credentials. You sort of allude to them, and would like to know before I invest time into your channel. Thanks.
Your talking is WAY too fast for me ! Not nice.
Regards Guus.
This isn't a tutorial, its just you babbling off words so quick no one can absorb them.....
There's a difference to explaining stuff and saying what you're doing
gps junk haha :):) nice video thx!
This is a video for folks that already know how to fly VOR basically useless for beginner sims. Looking elsewhere
Man can you speak slower , what’s the point of doing a tutorial , just to show yourself how good you do it. ?
hi. could you pls speak a little slow?
I thinks he thinks he is speaking on the RT to his controller? " Taxi Foxtrot, cross 09, Foxtrot, Tango, Delta, ". 🤡🤡
Dud I honestly have you on low-speed speech and you are still speaking very fast. I recommend you redo that video and make sure to be talking to people who are new to VOR, and talk slower, please. that's why we came to your channel. it's horrible I don't understand anything from it. I am sorry if I sound rude, I know you are trying to help, I think you for your afford.
-U didnt even explain what radial means
-u didnt explain what intersection means
How do u expect beginners to understand this???
Did you bother watching his introduction to VORs that was three videos before this in the playlist? czcams.com/video/pisgFcKKDLE/video.html
You can position your plane with slew mode :) Just press Y then A or F1 to descend. Thanks for these videos. Learning a lot.