!! We Pay To Pk @$@#! | RuneScape's Riots #2
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
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Throughout RuneScape's history, there have been a number of times where players came together in protest to show they are not happy with an update. Sometimes Jagex listens to the community and sometimes they don't. In this video, part two of the riots mini-series, we cover the last 4 classic riots.
Playlist:
• Playlist
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:32 Plug
0:47 Rule 7
3:28 Pay to PK
9:15 Pay to PK #2
9:27 Climbing Boots
Music:
Octopath Traveler OST, Dark (Trap Remix) by OSRSBeatz - Hry
Jagex releases controversial update
Falador guards ah shit here we go again
EOC was the turning point for me, and I quit only to come back once 07 scape was created
I did the same! Played 01-eoc came back 2018 ish.
I wasn't happy about EoC but I played it for awhile. In all honesty, I was disappointed OSRS came out and not a mid 2008 version of the game (with HD graphics, resizeable, G.E., etc). Eventually we got G.E. and resizeable and that won me over from RS3 and now that HDOS is out its even better... Sadly I don't have time to play anymore lol.
TLDR; wish they released a mid-2008 version of the game but with wildy and free trade :(
@@aaronsvoboda5897 wildy free trade and honestly I loves getting 100 dungeoneering. I had a blast saving up for chaotics and solving puzzles. Some of my fondest memories were playing with a group of friends on Skype solving puzzles and rooms together then helping each other get 99,100, some 120
Same
Me too
I would say 40k players lost would be an understatement. They lost a lot more than 40k, especially as time went on. I eventually quit solely because of these terrible updates. The amount of people that were on daily were really shooken up.
I lasted all the way until 2017. In 2017, basically nothing happened. Menaphos was the main highlight of that year, and it was total shit when it was released. Then there was nothing significant, so I was done. I remember checking the main page every few days, only to be disappointed to see yet another treasure hunter update.
The wheel of fortune did it for me..
All thr hard work i put in for almost a decade. And now ppl could just buy the Exp lamps and become 99 runecraft overnight without doing anything... At that point i didnt care anymore. Never played OSRS either. The nogstalica was there but the graphics suck tbf. There are alot of other gamers that are better nowadays... sad tho...
I have no idea what the actual number is, but in 2008, I read somewhere that it was 60,000 people that quit
There's also the knock on from the emptier world's. Back then I didn't care for PKing or trading, but when the game became emptier and emptier it became boring & lonely to play & I eventually left too. These updates were poison that trickled down
I used to spent hours just using RS as a chatroom tbh. I stopped playing due the decrease and I didn’t even know the riots happened
3:57 “will anybody be my gf” guy in full mith haha
4:56 the guy spamming "Buying and taking free items" is a legend lmao
Lol
Best Riot was when everyone quitted runecape and we could have OSRS back
It's not quitted it's quit
Me and my friends quitted and now we play osrs.
@@justinm3493 but i quited and cam3 back
I rioted for 8 whole years
I remember that and then writing angry emails to them as a cringe child
Biggest riot was when they took all of everyones items from rs classic and put it on rs2 beta resulting in every person online rioting with no gear on lol
I haven’t played in years but always come back to your vids.
They should have just been honest about the stolen credit cards being the reason for wilderness removal, would have gotten a lot less hate.
I think we were all too young back then to care about how merchant processors work
people mightve started charging back to troll them at no cost
Would love to see this series come back mate!
Your ability to find this much information about why JAGEX had to make these changes forced my hand to subscribe. Great content keep it up m8 :)
Love you Crumb, great content
oh man this is awesome. A video on the older history a time when I was still playing rune scape as a young 18-20 something I REMEMBER THESE RIOTS STILL. i thought at the time they would just be dead to time stories if you were there you knew and if not it just sounded like a crazy story. awesome vid
2007 - rs players riot because Jagex blocks QoL feature
2013+ - osrs players riot every time Jagex wants to implement QoL feature
My Jad came. Such amazing quality its so cool!
Cool video!!! Thank you!
Bro I can't tell how you many hours I spent much standing in Falador park on World 2 just merching away anything I could. The Nostalgia was strong with that one
Swiftswitch was such an epic 3th party client. I remember we could make our own playlist for music. Good old times.
Holy hell this vid takes me back.
I was a kid around 2007 or so when they removed free trade and I completely lost my shit. I was there in a pink skirt at Falador. The best part of RuneScape to me is that the players themselves wrote a lot of the 'lore' and history of the game. People like Durial 321 created the 'Falador Massacre' which has it's own Wikipedia page (not the RS wiki, real Wikipedia). Such a nostalgic game with many memorable moments :)
Yup Durial sacrificed all his hard work and gains so that he could go down in history as the most infamous PKer to ever play Runescape. A true legend
I remember this. I was a heavy RS pker at the time, before hotswapping came out with hotkeys. I believe I stopped playing around that time. i was 14
ur a legend for still watching osrs videos
2 vids in the same week?! 😍
Love your videos
Is there a new episode in this series coming soon? It's really interesting to see the history of the game in riot perspective
I remember going to school (6th grade) and my friend who was a serial liar had told me the wildy got removed that morning. I just thought he was lying but when I got home I was so disappointed. I wasn’t very good In hindsight, almost nobody was, but it was so much fun to just noob f2p pures and meet people in the wild and form alliances and teams. For me, It was what made RuneScape RuneScape. I also remember attending the riots in w66. I really have to believe to this day that there could’ve been some sort of alternative back then. We all witnessed some of our closest rs friends hop off for the last time, never to be seen in nearly 15 years. I wish I could go back to early 2007.
Pking back then was the best cuz even if you werent that good you still dominated if you had a pure but now you cant even compete without one cuz everyone is a pure and a pro at pking now so its hard to even get into. I remember having almost 100 rune 2hs and over 150 rune scims from pking on my f2p pure loll
I do miss those days of playing RuneScape every day for 16 hours. It's interesting how we played so much, but never got anything done, lol. Nowadays, I have more shit done on my OSRS account than I ever did back in the day. I guess you just get older and learn haha
I think bonds would have taken away a lot of the gold farmers market.
@@christopherronaldhouse6313 Literal fuckin facts. Played entire summers, best I could do was 85 woodcutting.
@@williamgill5286 Damn though you're right about pking now its not very accessible to noobs anymore I really missed out on the fun!
Forgot how much octopath traveler music bangs!
Too bad the game sucks... I can say this because I throughly played it. It's a step backwards in development, oversimplified, weak combat system, almost no character animations, the font is comic-sans. The entire selling piont of the game is it's a JRPG set in world that looks like one of those 3D puzzles with shiny glitter everywhere... It's a blantant cash grab.
So crazy to think about this stuff when I was an active player then at the time too. The pk removal and free trade really sucked. Specifically the free trade. Kinda wish Jagex was just honest about it all instead of trying to play it off. Great video as always man!
When they removed free trade and pking was the day runescape spell was broken on me. I was addicted to that game up until that point. Quit without hesitation and only came back when osrs was implemented but then they ruined that with shitty updates again
Same here I'll never forget that day until I die
I have around 200 climbing boots just sitting in my bank from pking i literally started alching them mid video thanks lol!
? They will sell for more on the GE if you're talking RS3. If you're talking OSRS they alch for around 10gp
Man I feel old.. I was there for all of that.
Wow, I played for years and never knew about these riots.
I am almost certain I was in one of those PK riot clips. I vividly remember how angry my friends and I were in high school after that update. Dark times for RuneScape for sure.
I liked, I subscribed, i hit the bell, and now i comment. let the good time begin.
You're a legend
@@CrumbRS the man, the myth, the legend!
Very interesting
I remember having full range void, a d bow, and paying like 2k for a veng during that bounty hunter update. Lol I would peek in , spec and step out outta fear of losing my void .. ahhh I miss those moments
I remember protesting the Pking changes haha, but I stuck it out a little my gameplay dropped significantly and I would rarely play. But after EOC I was done and the trade restrictions were extremely whack
People wonder why I love RuneScape. THIS is why. This. lmfao
I remember all of these
We prefer the term “most peaceful protest”
🤣
Best part about this is the url had the world number In it and all you had to do was put a new world number in url and boom
The chargback issue was in the rs documentry back in 2017
I remember the pay to Pk and free trade riot, I was only f2p at the time but I would log for hours just to get a follow train and protest publically. In fact it might be the music but I feel angry towards jagex watching this video, almost like I was still there
I loved swift switch. I remember it was the first client to incorporate the high scores into. So I’d woodcut and look up everybody’s stats.
The OG swift switch with the IRC chat channels
I'm anybody familiar with RuneScape thanks for talking about me :)
you're welcome dad!
bro part 3! please!
Removal of free trade affected the Armour trimming market , you haven't mentioned that
How nice to see that the post jagex made denying the inside job is posted by mod mark 😂
Runescape is a game where the devs have no understanding of what the community wants.
Unfortunately the community doesn't know what it wants either
I was a pink skirt in varrock during the free trade riots, I signed off and didn't come back till osrs was launched.
My favorite was the climbing boot 😂 alching a fuck ton of boots while rioting with the people mad about it
I miss the swiftswitch days with castle wars world 89!!!!!
I remember that riot :')
Where can I get that cursor @ 7:57
Hundreds of people knew about the climbing boot change in advance, myself included. Made a tidy sum...
I remember going to the pk riot aha Funny times.
I remember when they removed free trade and wildy in December 2007. All of a sudden I went from playing all day to having nothing to do, it was a very boring christmas 😂
Same 😭
I was there for the #2 riots
There were lots of CZcams videos about the wilderness removal
That TzKal-Zuk statue tho 0_0. shiii im tempted to get it
Get it dawg help out someone from our community and a content creator!
@@patwawryk7717 imma order.
@@kingkog7492 good man! I'm not sure which one I'm ordering yet!
I really want the Zulrah one but it's sold out :/
@@patwawryk7717 same here. I just hope they make more pets statues.
also im thinking about buying a vorkath statue because they look dope
if you don't your name is a lie and you're broke
@@gdragonforce cant argue with that
I read some article, or maybe it was on the RS wikipedia page, Jagex saying they actually didn't lose almost any players for very long after the wildy/trade removal update... thats complete BS,, almost everybody quit. I did too for quite some time. Back then, pking was huge and everybody did it
The Falador massacre will always be in RS history, that was a wicked day!
Finally!
i rmember this, fun times.
EoC drove me out, mobile app reeled me back in.
Was gone for 6 years.
mobile app was what got me into RS in the first place lul
Wont be long squeel the wheel will be on old school
SS was used for pest controlling and it was crazy good xp for making a pure that’s why people were mad
“We pay we say we pk”
Cover the Vyrewatch Sentinel bots
I was such a huge fan of the game at that time. Attended every riot.. when they took away old school and the wild I couldn’t believe it. Never felt such disappointment in my life. I’m glad they lost 40k players. They deserved it
Did you not listen to the part where if they hadn't done it they wouldve lost cc companies? The game would've been shut down if they hadn't lmao
@@jessie1078 just make it all over again 🤷🏻♂️
Hey crumb i have something you might want to investigate how can i get in contact with you?
damnn i play this game my whole life and didnt even know this l0l
TFW no episode 3 :c
Jagex should not have give a s* about credit card payments. The customer would use any other way to pay for membership. Even back then PayPerSMS or per Phone and things like Paysafecard were possible...
I would guess that credit card was probably a preferred payment method for them. It probably took less of a fee and it has the advantage of being consistent, in that it will just come out automatically unless you cancel the transaction. I'm sure if they would have decided it was an insignificant payment method that they would have just let the companies go. PKing and free trade are an integral part of any online multiplayer game; to remove them is always obviously going to lead to a massive deterioration in quality of gameplay. You don't exactly need to be an expert in RS to deduce that. For that reason, I don't think Jagex made the decision lightly, and I'm sure there must have been a serious financial implication from losing credit card revenue that forced them to cut it all out.
SwiftSwitch and SwiftKit
The good ol' days
Also after watching, anyone remember elvemage being banned around the same time? Riot. Lol
Its time for a huge riot against the duel arena
There's nothing we want back tho. The duel arena's friendly competition aspect has already been replaced by the clan wars free-for-all portal at the ferox enclave.
Everyone there is a scammer or a gambling addict.
You gotta drop the prices a bit on that merch dude
"old school RuneScape is based [...]"
YOOO IT SURE IS
lol cmon the climbing boots was an inside job. This very same thing happened in OSRS with zul'andra teleports. they went from 100 gp to 20k+ over night when they changed the drop amount and it didn't even happen once, they changed the drop amount like 3 times. I would know I made like 300m off them.
Some people have faster internet than others therefor it should take at least 8 minutes minimum to switch worlds. Just to be safe. Rule 7 and all
wasn't it swiftkit?
Swiftkit came after, swiftswitch was the og
I remember spamming my ass off december of 2007, didn't know most of it was falador but varrock was packed too. I don't think anyone was playing the game normally that day. Removal of free trade and wildy sucked
I love me a good RS riot
5:19 HEY THATS ME SAYING ‘I hate u jagex eat my * * * *’
I was 12 when this riot happened no cap I didn't know what the client was I just spammed to be cool in my friends eyes
"Safe SS" Well, not a good combination of words.
Back in the days, before switf, i had desktop shortcuts to get into the worlds i used the most. e.g. 1, 2 and the PK worlds.
Ya I remember you could just change the url lol
they turned RS into Club Penguin and it killed the game
"the froms"?
no more new vids?
Wasn't it SwiftKit instead of SwiftSwitch?
SS was the original. SK was the updated version
i think you mean "mostly peaceful protests"
Yeah old school was best on release I don’t know the game anymore
Jagex doesn't give a shit about what we think about 3rd party clients (unless you're a stememer)
They said you shouldn't have plugins that allow you to potentially avoid taking damage in content, blast mine plug in still does this and the ability to see the attack ranges of NPCs are two of the most egregious contradictions that come to mind.
Then again this is also a company that thinks a Bond isn't a MTX....so they've already made it perfectly clear they've got little to no integrity.
What is MTX?
@@nopnopnopnopnopnopnop I'd assume microtransactions?
3rd party plugins are so op that you kinda have to use them... freeze timera when pking gives an insanely advatage over someone
4:38 eh when bh craters came out bro u could choose u want to kill.. u just couldnt leave for like 5mins like a tb. We had rwt hunting cc's then kuz thats how gold sellers would do it. sometimes u might get a rwt'r as ur target
Except you'd also have a target on you for everyone. Dont forget that part.
@@randydinius7707 yea thats true also. and if u were already figthing u can get piled by 2 people
Jagex the biggest gold sellers out there
Where is the wepaytopk riot now?
Its desperately needed
Im a pvmer but it is really needed. Osrs cannot survive without it
I remember when they did the rock climbing boot update. I sold all my rock climbing boots in ge and never used them again, back then no one really cared much about a few extra strength bonus.
Hypothesis: Runescape operates similarly to real life. When there are riots, we see riots to follow. Perhaps massive botting is a sign of the future of automation?
once AI is real, all MMORPGs will die out. No one would be able to outsmart a bot.
By free trade and eoc killed osrs used to be 150k online at all times