Dewalt Tough System 2.0 Drawer Box Vs. Packout
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Got the new DeWalt 2.0 Drawers and compared them with the Packout. They actually seem pretty good, but it will depend on your use and what you want to fit into it.
Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0 Two Drawer Unit
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Milwaukee Packout 2-Drawer Tool Box
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Milwaukee 2-Drawer Packout Cheaper here:
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Milwaukee Packout 3-Drawer Tool Box
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0:00 Introduction
1:42 Measurements
6:09 Powerstation testing
7:10 Modifying Drawers
10:08 DeWaukee
12:38 Final Spec and Price Comparison
13:31 Actually putting tools in the DeWalt - Jak na to + styl
I love how you mix these two! I have both tool brands but use the dewalt tough system boxes. Please modify more!
I like the fact that you are thinking about the adaptation of things. Nice work.
I started with the packout because of how complete is was. I’ve wanted to justify switching to dewalt because it’s a little cheaper. Then I see videos that show me exactly why I still buy packout. Maybe it’s because I never buy what’s new but I always watch for new releases. Awesome job in this videos of showing the slight differences in size and features! 👍🏻
Thanks, and yeah, I was on the fence, but at the time when I entered into pack-out I couldn't find any DeWalt drawers and they had bad reviews anyways. I don't regret going into pack-out at all, though my wallet did at the time... Hopefully DeWalt will come out with some cool stuff as well. At least their drawers look a lot better.
I'm old enough to remember when things like this was made out of metal and lasted for decades, instead of plastic that lasts a few years if you are lucky. I looked at the Dewalt boxes and they have tons of people complaining about the product breaking and failing. The milwaukee looks much more durable than the flimsy dewalt box.
So far the DeWalt box has withstood the weight I've kept in it and not deformed much, but I'm keeping an eye on it for this summer when it will be subjected to 120⁰ inside my trailer. That's when I think the tight seal will cause issues.
When I first saw them, all I could think about was the craftsman toolbox 🧰 that we gave our dad for Christmas back in 84’ that sat on casters. I could not understand why everyone was going crazy over a plastic version of one. I think he still has that box too.
@@dumdiversaspapalbull1452 an equivalent in size storage container would be much heavier. Plastics have come a long way and are more portable.
How anybody can justify one color or another hasn't evolved in their trade over 25 years. You take the best at the time and hope it's good. I have helped new tradesmen get started with some not right for me tools.
I was using the Packout system before they came out with drawers as well as the Ridgid system. Both are well made and durable but I never cared much for either, just didn't fit my usage needs well. Oh and also before the Packout dolly/cart was available. Now I'm using Husky's version, simply because they have a two drawer unit. The Husky does not compare in strength but so far it's working great. I have both drawers loaded and they open close perfect. Box bangs around in my van and is maybe a third the price of a packout or dewalt system. With all that said. I'm thinking of going with the dewalt system and using the racks in my van in place of the custom built shelving to better organize and free up a bit of space.
See I just like those. I've got some in my garage to keep em off the floor, idk wtf I thinks gonna happen to them. I'm planning on getting a big van and when I do that fr those racks will be my first purchase. I just like the pre-made Kizan foam I like my tools looking all snazzy. When I open it and get a ohhhhhhh I feel like I did a good enough job.
One of the reasons I went with Dewalt was for that dolly that you can slide boxes in and out as needed. My neighbor had one to sell for $100 and I passed it up because I was going to Milwaukee but I am kicking myself now for not picking it up because I still use some Dewalt boxes...
Loved your video. Great mod option! Makes me encouraged that you can mix and match with a little creativity
Glad you enjoyed. I'm hoping to set up a spot to video some stuff so that it's not so 1st person POV, but I guess it works out sometimes.
The width of the DeWalt drawers fit my needs the best. Either way drawers are the best.
I have the DeWALT, I love it, great video thanks
Yeah, I think the drawers are a winner. I like the feel of it. Seems well made but I am concerned about the plastic warping with heat and too much weight being in the drawer. My trailer gets to 130° in the summer. The Milwaukee warps but doesn't really matter since it doesn't have a gasket to seal against, whereas the DeWalt needs to retain it's shape because of the tight clearances. We'll find out!
@@MyFortressConstruction ya that's a good point, I hope DeWALT thought about that when they engineered /chose their plastic
Can l lock the 4 port charger DCB104 to this new system ??
Nice modifications. 👍
Great video. What kind of foam are you using for your tools?
Kaizen foam. I've got a video on it somewhere... I buy the large sheets and cut them down. Way cheaper than buying pre-cut sheets.
I love you. I was trying to see if I could fit the power station but could not figure it out. You made me a happy man! You single? 🎉
😆 Let's stick to brotherly love... Glad to help!
I use the pre-made Kizan foam inserts for my toughsystem boxes as well as my Tstak system. They don't fit in the Dewalt toughsystem drawers so I had to cut them down to make them fit. But after a little cutting they fit perfect. I haven't actually put any tools in it yet, I plan on using it for finishing hand tools, measuring and the like. So far I'm very happy with the purchase. I really wanted the drawers for my toughsystem, they've been out forever for the Tstak system so it's about time. Great review. Still trying to figure out what the thing on top of the box is, just a tray for screws and things? Idk. But I'd rather have a top handle. My only complaint so far. Great video, thanks for the info, and for the hack on the toughsystem latches. Have a great day!
I buy the 24"x48" sheets of Kaizen foam and then trim them for the box/boxes I need them for. I find it's the most economical. And yeah, I still have a sheet of Kaizen and drawers of tools rolling around because I don't know what I want to do exactly. And the little notched spot on top of the T-system drawer is made for a typical handle to fit into since they reuse molds on their organizers. I think they just molded another part to fit into that space and allow the half-organizer clip to flip up. I'd be interested to see if someone could take the top handle off of another organizer and clip it into that space.
Yes, the standard handles do fit, and you can buy them as a spare part.
Good to know, seemed like it should be possible.
How much are the handles? Can you get them easily from DeWalt? Can you post a part# or link to them please? Thanks. Good to know
This is the type of contractor that I will hire. They get the best things to get the job done, NO a nice looking shiny dewalt or red just to satisfy their inner proud that they charge you extra for.
Great mods!!! I will buy the Mil. The modid 2 drawer with the top half attached to the bottom will fix the opening and it is lockable, Dewalt no. I would have bought the Dewalt. Now with research I am buying Milwaukee. Thank you So much!
👍 I have mostly DeWalt tools but I have to say Packout is the safest bet for future updates and further tool-box expansion. Buy it once, cry once. I certainly enjoy my drawer boxes...
12:44 Comparing prices did you factor in the added cost of the $55 packout work top you attached to the bottom of the Dewalt drawers?
No, this isn't a comparison on someone's setup. I'm just weird in that I like to mix Milwaukee and DeWalt but most will go with one system or the other so that won't effect cost.
I appreciate this video. I wish I'd seen it earlier. I'm surprised DeWalt didn't try to keep (or tried to block?) backward compatibility when so little needed to be done that doesn't seem to impact strength if they molded it right. A pretty bad look. Looks like a nice drawer set though. Looks like DeWalt discontinued the three drawer Tough System 1 unit. Home Depot isn't offering either anymore.
Yeah, I'm wondering why they did that too. As for the 3-drawer, I recently saw that they are releasing the 2.0 version of the 3-drawer so I'd look for one online cuz Homedepot doesn't have as big of a selection as some of the tool distributors.
hi matey, thanks for the video, you can add a normal DeWalt top handle to the drawers. 👍 fits right in for a few £
Ah, makes sense! I was wondering if you could, thanks!
Nice job just use JB weld or another good 2 part epoxy to fill those voids you made with the cut off tool. Just make a mold and flip the box upside down when u epoxy it if anything needs to be adjusted for fitment sand it with your multi-tool with a triangular sanding attachment …
In my experience (UK), the Milwaukee box system is a little better than the DeWalt, but when it comes to drawer systems; it's the other way around.
DeWalt do sell the open drawer system, similar to Milwaukee.
I suppose it all comes down to personal preference. Both brands are great, but compromised.
It is interesting the tools and systems that are available there, but not here and vice versa. I assume there's rhyme and reason to it, but seems arbitrary at times... I went with Milwaukee because they have more capabilities at the present moment, but DeWalt is trying to catch up...
@@MyFortressConstruction I agree.
Hey, have you seen the new SK Modular System. Was just in my news feed today. I'd love to see you review it!!! I'd include link and picture, but I don't know how. lol. They're selling on Amazon already.
Not sure how I never saw your comment but those boxes look really cool! Single drawer, cabinet, multi-drawer! They're also steel which could be a good or a bad thing. I wonder how heavy they are compared to the plastic boxes... If I ever get rich I'll try one out. 😉
Does the dewalt 2.0 fit a Craftsman 216 pcs tool box versus stack on top
No, Versa-stack and Tstak fit together but tough system is larger and uses a different clip. However, I believe people on Etsy or eBay sell an adapter that will let you clip a Versa-stack or T-stack onto a tough system box. Where there's a will, there's a 3D printer!
I'm not sure i got this right, but, Dewalt used two different drawer slides, in a two drawer box, the top one is more positive shutting than the bottom?
Thats just plain nonsense, if correct!
I really like the waterproof drawers, but the upper center of the drawers seems bit flimsy to me, to maintain a tight seal over time, also there is no top
carry handle, is just typical Dewalt design, so close to perfect, but can't resist screwing it up!
They were real close to getting me to switch from packout, and sustainers, but it's a no go!
Very nice review, thanks for this!
Yeah, they made the top one have a positive catch at the full extension but not the bottom! I didn't understand it either... And I'm afraid you are correct in the center being too flimsy and they have trouble closing after sitting with even a modest amount of weight in them. I'm guessing that is why the packouts have such a large opening around the drawers, to account for deformation.
Love your Dewaulkee stuff! Great Idea, I was wondering if I could cross fit! I have both and use both because I like some features of both! I think the Milwaukee is better built but I think it is overpriced and only get it when on sale or running specials. I can get the Dewalt drawer unit for $99 but the Packout drawers are $150 -$200, ouch! I started with Rigid and liked it then went with Dewalt 1.0. then 2.0. But one of them , I don't remember which, would not fit in my truck with the roll-n-lock, but the Rigid would. the Dewalt would not. Then the 1.0 was not backward compatible with 2.0 which really pissed me off so I started buying Milwaukee. I had to modify the Milwaukee handle to fit my truck top but it works well. I see now they make something which combines the Dewalt 1.0 and 2.0 that I may check out because I carry my 20V Dewalt in Tough boxes and 12V Milwaukee in Packout. I can do 80% of my work with the 12V and they take up much less room. I have had some of the little plastic tabs and catches break on the Dewalt stuff but also had my top on the Milwaukee bottom rolling box break. If I had to do it again I would go straight Packout! I think it is more durable overall. Great video!!
Yeah, I got into Packout during COVID when DeWalt had phased out its gen 1 drawers and hadn't released the Gen 2. I couldn't wait any longer for Ridgid to come out with drawers so I sold 90% of my Ridgid boxes and bought Packout. I have been happy with the system but am still waiting for a 2 drawer unit that has one large bottom drawer and a small top drawer so that you could put a circular saw/bandsaw in the bottom and blades in the top. I put my circular saws into the cabinet Packout and that works, but a drawer is nicer.
@@MyFortressConstruction Same here, I have circular in bottom roller. I wish they would come out with bottom rolling section with a drawer. It's a pain having to take everything off the rolling section to get to one thing you need in the bottom. I started using rolling base with drawer sections and the big tool box. I bought a bunch of that foam from Rockler for a good price but I don't seem to need it for the drawers. I can put more tools in it free form and pack it tight enough where they don't move around so much. They have sales right now so just ordered drawer section with big bottom and 2 smaller ones above. Hoping my 12v circular fits in bottom!
@@Intoxacajun Yeah, unfortunately the new 3 drawer unit is just a regular sized drawer with two small drawers above it. So if it doesn't fit in the regular drawer, it won't fit in the new one. They should have done a unit with a large drawer and one small drawer above it. Then a circular saw might have fit.
Thing of beauty
I know, right?!
Can you try latching the DeWalt 4 port charger please
Sorry, I don't have one since I use the power station as my charger. But if the feet are wide then I don't think it would fit without modification.
My 4 port charger wont fit into my toughsystem 2.0 boxes directly, I have to connect it to the radio and put the radio on the box stack
I was super excited to get the packout 2 drawer on special. When I got home I realized that it's not waterproof! No rubber gasket. I'm able to see inside the drawers. They go for 200$ Canadian and for that price, it's unacceptable! I roll around the big box with wheels and thought this would be a good idea to add on top, but if it rains and rolling around on a slant, water will get in. Good thing I didn't start filling them up. Going right back to the store. Major fail from Milwaukee. Like most of their stuff, overpriced..People make fun of dewalt but at least they thought of weatherproofing.
Yes... I rarely have mine outside of an enclosed trailer or building, but the other day I had to drive through rain so I tossed a tarp over everything. Drawers with seals are a must if you haul tools around in the bed of a truck.
Couldn’t you have grinded down the power station to fit?
Yeah, that's probably an option too, but I'd rather modify the $120 box in an area that didn't seem like it mattered (and can be replaced) as opposed to a $400 generator.
you'd have to roll your car with the bar off the milwaukee packout for the drawers to slide out.. they actually lock in really nicely, i dont kno why you said it relies on the bar, thats the locking system, which is the biggest failure point of that system as someone can cut the plastic loop with side cutters etc.
I have had a couple of my stacks pulled completely over from the drawers opening because I forgot to put the bar up. We have some fairly bumpy roads out here in the country and all my drawers are in a trailer. If you drive on paved roads and your stack is in a van or truck, then maybe it's not an issue, but I guarantee that all my stacks would be in bad shape if I didn't put the bar up before transporting each time.
Wow! IDTS
I like that dewalt has a carry handle on top. Why milwaukee didnt add one to me is stupid
It costs too much for an option they probably think no one would use. They are pretty heavy and once they have tools inside it would be unwieldy with one hand. You really need to hold onto the sides. The DeWalt is lighter and smaller, so I guess it makes more sense.
@@MyFortressConstruction it depends ehat your putting in it. I have seen custom packout handles fitted to draws and they have no problem carrying them around. There isnt much difference in size to the medium size packout with the lid which hasa handle compared to the draws
Maybe Milwaukee will make a big single drawer. That would be cool.
Yeah, one that would fit circular saws and drivers sitting upright, or hand tools that could be vertically oriented... Lots of options if there was a deep heavy duty drawer.
they have the cabinet, basically one drawer.
@@Tre16 Yeah, the cabinet sort of works for that purpose, but still not as good as a drawer.
Yea they should and it should be the bottom rolling box too and dewalt should do the same. And they should have small front wheels for the rolling box so it can be a dolly for on smooth pavement and the traditional pull back and roll for rough terrain
Thanks god bless
I’m sad dewalt doesn’t have a locking system for the drawers
Ah yes, I guess that could be an issue for some. For me I don't care about the lock, but I like the stop at the end and the fact there's a latch instead of a bar to keep them closed.
Putting a lock on plastic it would take 2 seconds to open any plastic box with a lock
@@loucifer4205 that’s not the point. The point is to stop people from using your tools without permission and never returning them in a workshop when you aren’t there.
When you work with those types of people you’ll want locks unless I’m guessing you may be rich and don’t care about tools going missing.
@@13965082 there are better ways to lock your boxes.
@@loucifer4205 Especially at a jobsite where everyone has a pair of side cutters in their pocket. Nothing but an illusion of security.
What about price?
12:40. I've got bookmarks on the video.
all my power tools are dewalt but i use the packout system
You rebel.
I wish dewalt was red also. Maybe in a ulternate universe.
Yeah... I wish someone would make white. I guess it would yellow fairly quickly and maybe it's more expensive, but it wouldn't get so hot here in Texas!
I like the black Milwaukee better than the red still wouldn't buy
I can put a lock on my 3 drawer packout so no one tries to mess with my tools, can u put a lock on that dewalt? 😎
That feature might be important to some people so it's worth noting, however the lack of water sealing might be a deal breaker for others. In every system there's give and take. Personally, I prefer Packout for all of the different options and customizations, but the locking feature isn't important to me.
The real test woudl be to drop them from 3 feet and see how badly they get destroyed.
I have only ever had one tool box fall out of my truck. I don't throw or drop them so for me durability is more about the latches and moving parts. Will it continue to function after drywall dust has found it's way into every crevice? Will it keep on working after bouncing around in my trailer for a couple of years and being subjected to high heat? Everyone has slightly different parameters but obviously a tool box should be able to resist a bit of abuse in all categories.
HD has them for $99
Dewalt tough system 2.0 is better IMO.
It's pretty nice. I'm just hoping it doesn't warp too much. The Milwaukee box has more space to warp without causing issues. The DeWalt is just so tight with it's latch and seal that I'm concerned it will become too tight to shut. But we will see!
Is your last name Frankenstein by any chance? lol
Möchten Sie es nicht wissen... ;)
@@MyFortressConstruction Your German!?!
@@scsc9311 Lol! Nope, sorry, though I do speak Spanish.
@@MyFortressConstruction Hai, que bien. lol
Milwalt?
Lol, CZcams has "Translate into English?" below your comment.
Ah, just pick your poison, and go broke feeding the addiction.
Hmmm... Do you think we could start a new D.A.R.E program to help addicted contractors/DIYers?
DeWalt Abuse Resistance Education.
@@MyFortressConstruction I would be the first in line. I'm addicted to the Packout Drawers, and their half size organizers. Fat and skinny. 🤪
You have 2 drawers of the DeWalt system? Get more than that to compare.
What do you think I'm made out of? Bitcoin?
Even though im a dewalt boy I was debating weather to buy the packout just because the system is so rebust, although it would anger a lot of ppl being full of dewalt tools lmao.
Love the reviews but not being an MERICA FK YA, what the hek is a 13th 16th.. Outside of USA when were forced to use the ancient britannia system of measuring we'd just go by quarter inches. I mean i get it but man that threw my brain in a loop lmao
Haha, yeah, I am not a fan of the imperial system either, but it's what everyone here uses. A 13/16 would be about 20.6 mm. Obviously, since I've lived with it my whole life it's pretty straightforward, but I'd learn the metric system if Britain wants to try taking us on a second time. Probably not worth it since Americans don't even call football by its appropriate name... Lol.
Be a rebel, put DeWalt in Packout.
Milwaukee looks like a professional tool box. Dewalt looks like Fisher Price.
Man you rock !! Yes soo cheap dewalt
I bought the drawers for my system. Going to return that. Not really needed. I can add two of the same size boxes of Packouts. And it much Much lighter. Does the same. I can just open from top even if there other boxes on them. So it not a big deal. Lot Cheaper too! Packouts are very overpriced. But they do work and it a tool so tax write off.
It's true, drawers are optimal for someone who has to access a lot of tools at once. But if you're getting on and off with just one stack, then drawers can just be extra weight/cost.
@@MyFortressConstruction I have it built up to several Stacks high. But you can left like say 3rd stack down and left up the top. Grab what you need. Top ones do not fall off. Handles on front make it easy to left them up.
None of the 1.0 things are compatible with the 2.0.
Really? You mean just with this 2.0 drawer? Because I know the 2.0 regular boxes worked with 1.0 boxes.
@@MyFortressConstruction it's not supposed to 😆 that was a whole thing when they updated to the 2.0 maybe they got enough pushback they started making compatible stuff
Everything Milwaukee does costs entirely too much for the application it was intended. Everything Dewalt does is entirely cheap and full of a lack of effort.
Just WHY???? Why not just commit to one system that IS compatible with all components vs. all of that hacking? Just doesn't make sense to me.
I know... I can't give up the flexvolt tools of DeWalt though. Milwaukee M18 high demand tools overheat in demanding applications and DeWalt's don't. Hence a DeWaukee mashup.
The DeWalt is 98 bucks at HD.
Yeah, it's a definite buy right now if you're looking for drawers. I'm guessing the price will go back up after the holidays.
Craftsman tradestack is basically the dewalt drawers w/o the waterproof seal...on sale for $89 right now
@@MyFortressConstruction I bought 3 units and your video was very helpful. Not much room is wasted on the DeWalt version. For the footprint they offer the most drawer space I think. Looks like having both brands might be the best choice maybe.
@@LemonySnicket-EUC Yeah great. I have found that you need to be careful with the weight limit on the dewalt drawers because of how tight they are. They haven't deformed on me, but I 'm afraid they will if I leave them in my trailer when the temperature gets over 100 degrees. Loaded with batteries it becomes difficult to close.
@@MyFortressConstruction I've got them in my Custom ATC trailer and summer temps will be here before we know it so we can compare notes then. With 4 drills or drivers and batteries I have less than 25 lbs in each drawer even with extra misc items added in so I'm hoping I'll be okay.
DeWaukee lmao
DeWaukee 😂
So much sacrilege 😂
I have to repent often...
Your left hand is near where your power tools are cutting. They could easily kick back/jump and cut your left wrist. Just happened to me. Nasty injury. Made me nervous watching you. Nice video. Enjoyed it otherwise.
Thanks for the reminder. Everyone in construction thinks it won't happen to them, but it only takes a fraction of a second for a finger or two to be missing...
I'm going to suggest that you don't know what kickback is, and also how EITHER of those tools work. Feigned expertise for good 'feels' overshadows fake sincerity. See you next time on Fake People on the Internet.
Ya Milwaukee wins again
Sure.
Dewalt looks like junk
Mhm...
Who cares about measurements really ?
I do.