This moment following a third place showing in the 2004 Iowa caucuses all but ended Howard Dean's run for president. More from CNN at www.cnn.com/video/
It was one scream. That’s all it took. The thing is if this happened today, he’d immediately be the front runner for having such passion and enthusiasm
Now you can mock the disabled, have racial insensitivity, talk of grabbing women, love-whoo Putin, and incite a riot......You may the the White House again.....We are doomed!!!!
@@Talisguy buddy I went to an extremely liberal arts university. I even started to unknowingly entertain some of the progressive ideologies. Ive cared not for politics for the entirety of my life and was actually on the Dems side during the first impeachment trial. I believed wholeheartedly that such high figures of authority would never make such accusations without KNOWING they had concrete evidence to support the Russia collusion allegations. But when that entire trial slowly unraveled and showed me the truth of the matter, thats when my interest was piqued and i began closely following his accomplishments and objectives as president. And objectively he had some of the most sound fiscal policies offered up by any politician since... honestly from what i hear from Gen x and what Ive read.. Bill Clinton.
@@joedunphy5064 Agreed. I was kind of bummed the American public didn't give him a chance after that. He had some really good stuff on deck I really liked.
@@vectorhold6489 He was also the first politician that embraced smaller contributions and online footprint that Obama later harnessed for his ascendence.
That was my thought at the time. Dean had energy and knew how to rile up the base. Kerry never came close to that and got the nomination for being "safe." Didn't work out too well, did it?
zecraw I agree, Dean had the best shot at ousting Bush in 2004. I am not in anyway anti-media but it was a shame that the media manipulated it's coverage of this speech to make Dean seem like a mad man. He had an injustice done to him there
I'm completely outside of American politics and the ideals within- but I'm shocked that a man's career was ruined for a scream and a hoarse voice. That says volumes- absolute volumes- about the American political psyche.
It's been around for a long time. They say that one reason why John F. Kennedy won the election in 1960 is because when they appeared on TV together for the first ever televised Presidential debates, Richard Nixon looked ill while Kennedy looked strong and vibrant. (Richard Nixon WAS ill at that time. He had the flu.) It's probably also one reason that it wasn't widely known at the time of his presidency that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair. It's nothing new.
Hallie Harker also, Nixon’s PR team didn’t know how to cosmetically prep Nixon the way most candidates today are prepped before going on TV every time. Hell, even before going on stage: stage make-up, for example. They didn’t understand that TV magnifies everything and images are lasting. So Nixon just looked super old and out of date next to a young, handsome, vibrant and smooth skinned JFK. Nixon actually went on TV with zero make-up. Ronald Reagan was probably the first President to really understand how everything on TV matters and that presentation goes a long way. His acting background went a long way. Knowing something and SEEING something are two completely different things in America
@@youtubecommenter37 I didn't help that he was ill during that debate, either. He had the flu or something like it. If you're not feeling well, I don't know that cosmetics are going to mask that.
Nah, taking money from wall street, big pharma, insurance companies, oil companies, military industrial complex, etc. and then doing their bidding instead of representing the people is what is wrong with politics
Democrats have a standard for decor, professionalism, and manor. Had he been running as a Republican, I've no doubt he would have been elected President.
A lot of wise people believe that individuals need to earn a voice, only because there’s a lot of power in it. But at the same time it’s like, we don’t want to just silence people... it’s always complicated haha. Two opposites and we’re trying to find the middle
The irony that by today's standards. His scream would've been the most tame thing any politician could ever do on live television. Now we have people in office who act like total jackasses or just plain assholes on public television,the people don't demand for the resignation of said politician
The more states he named, the more aggressive he was getting; it's like he was going from human to Hulk. Poor guy, and he seemed so enthusiastic and happy at the end. 😩🥺
"We're going to South Carolina! And Oklahoma! And Arizona! And North Dakota! And New Mexixo!..." "Ok dude, calm down now" "...AND CALIFORNIA! AND TEXAS!" "Oh"
+cafeterialoca People are still rooting for Trump because hes right on pretty much everything he talks about. He had a few extreme ideas, but the measure to which hes blowing his rivals both in the GOP and among Democrats out of the water in terms of being right, thats what gets people to support him even with his sometimes extreme thinking. Compared to Trump, the others like Bush, Rodham and comrade Sanders, are stupid little kids in diapers.
DesertStateInEu No, all he's doing is distrating people by say "Fuck Mexicans" and "Fuck Muslims" The guy has no cool down, and he's going to crumble when he tries to negotiate because his whole ideal is "DO WHAT I SAY!" He'll lead us to WWIII with that attitude. Fat ass needs to be shoved off his tower.
cafeterialoca And thats one of the other things people love about Trump. That his enemies have nothing but lies against him. "waaaa hes a racist waaa hes a bigot waaaaa fascist waaa he went bankrupt 4 times" the moment you try to prove any of these, your argument falls apart. And when all you have against somebody is lies, you know youre in trouble.
DesertStateInEu Sounds like you're just a racist jackass. What is Trump even gonna do? Build a wall? Make people work harder for less money? He's just a jackass who is running his mouth that will crack under the pressure of being president.
cafeterialoca lol Wrong again. How am I racist exactly? How is Trump racist? See? You have nothing against him or his supporters, all you have is these words you throw around that you dont know the meaning of. Now whos the jackass. Its not that Trump is gonna build a wall to keep illegals out of the US, its that wtf is your problem with it, and who can do better than Trump? Also hes the number 1 candidate who will NOT crack under pressure as hes demonstrated many times, unlike the other candidates. So far all we heard from Hillary Rodham and comrade Sanders is "the economy is bad so give me your money, theres terrorists so give me your money, theres climate change so give me your money". How is Trump gonna make people work harder for less money? Its like you Trump haters live in a fantasy world and you hear these rumors about him and you try to spread these rumors hoping to downgrade him. Youre gonna have to work for your money just like you have so far, is Rodham or the communist gonna give you free money you deluded dipshit? You have nothing against Trump, except for lies.
I doubt very much the scream was what "ended" his run. He only came third in the caucuses to begin with - he just wasn't that popular of a candidate. Of course it makes a good story to blame it on the scream but that's baloney, he's actually exciting to watch or they wouldn't have him featured at the DNC.
It was a slightly different time back then, media talking heads were taken way more seriously when they talked about "presidential behaviour" and limited the options to just soulless automatons that performed according to a script and never acted out of line. ..not that anyone learned from it and applied to current elections.
Howard Dean has contended that it was not the 'Dean scream' that caused him to lose, but rather more his campaign was disorganized that he lossed to John Kerry in 2004. On top of the momentum Kerry had after defeating Dean in Iowa. Some in the media have also admitted they blew the scream out of proportion, which they did.
In context Dean had expected to do better in Iowa than he did. And there was a runup of weird Dean comments like what he'd said to the LGBTs, "Clinton was acclaimed as the first black president - I'll be the first GAY president!". National Review had a full cover issue "please nominate this man" because those conservatives smelled a weirdo whom Shrub could beat. This looked like a meltdown because - it was a meltdown. Dean sobered up later and was a competent DNC leader, as 2006 proved.
Me too :) This is far from cringe, it doesn't even rank as slightly out of the ordinary. If I've learned anything from social media in all these years, its that if something gets even a bit of traction, most people will join in whether they agree or not. We're just so incredibly tribal and easily led. Shout out some hyperbolic ridicule, and watch people join in. 🙁
No one would elected this fool for anything,, The scream had nothing to do with it.. If he was black like Obola,, he would have been elected solely because of his race... Libturds are such idiots
THIS! I remember it when it happened. The MSM freaked out and flushed him down and I was asking myself why was his screaming a big deal lol. MSM was more powerful back then because people trusted it. Trump, however, couldn't be flushed despite multiple attempts.
Bustersword88 it's actually interesting - the kind of media scrutiny that killed Howard Dean actually made Trump far stronger. In their attempts to hit Trump's credibility, they accidentally gave him millions of dollars worth of advertising. It's forgotten that there was actually quite a lot of bipartisan catharsis in watching Trump smack around the establishment candidates back in the primaries. I
Be N S O N yeah. Turned out so well, huh? He sure is doing a great job kicking around those establishment chronies... As they literally are now in power and dividing up our country's public land and structure for themselves.
"CNN issued a public apology and admitted in a statement that they might have 'overplayed' the incident. The incessant replaying of the 'Dean Scream' by the press became a debate on the topic of whether Dean was the victim of media bias. The scream scene was shown an estimated 633 times by cable and broadcast news networks in just four days following the incident, a number that does not include talk shows and local news broadcasts. Some in the audience that day reported that they were unaware of the 'scream' until they saw it on TV." - From Wikipedia
The worst part is that they deemed him "Un-presidential" because of that scream. Yet it is one of those examples that show what passion really is. But people seem to be so narrow minded and misguided to even think.
Xian that because you're a brainwashed moron. You've never been so excited about something as to let out some kind of cheer? Lol go back to letting the media think for you.
So I was 11 years old when this happened, and I never really understood why this sank Howard Dean's campaign. He gets a little excited and hypes the crowd up after a somewhat disappointing finish in the primary, lets out a "YEAH!" at the end of his speech, and that somehow makes him un-electable? Nothing to do with his stances on issues or anything? Regardless of his politics, something as insignificant as saying "YEAH" or "BYAAW" if you're a Chappelle's Show fan should not ruin a presidential campaign.
I know that it's stupid but the media controls a lot more than you think and late night shows and news broadcasters constantly made fun of it so Howard Dean slowly faded away into a joke
+BJMcB92 agreed. This is the first time I've seen this clip and it doesn't seem odd at all. If THIS is why he lost popularity, that's pretty fucking shallow. The Trumps, Carsons, Bachmans, etc. of the world make this clip seem benign.
+BJMcB92 i was eight going on nine then, and remember this too and I found it pretty funny. It's also pretty funny that I'm from Iowa, so here was something that went down in my home state. I also remember the 2004 election representing the first time I really understood politics on any level, being against Bush and being bummed out when he stole an election for the second time. I voted for Kerry in the Nickelodeon kid's pick mock election deal, and he actually won the kids' vote.
I remember when this happened. I was in my early 20s. I had no party affiliation, no political opinion, didn't care a wit about politicians. Howard Dean got what we would call canceled today for an enthusiastic utterance. How crazy is that? He was canceled by his own party and constituents for being excited. Politics have only gotten more divisive and insane since then. We deserve what we tolerate.
I don’t think he would’ve had a chance anyways, Bush was able to win the popular vote and the electoral college by exploiting peoples’ fears, post-9/11
I'm a right leaning libertarian and I see nothing at all wrong with the scream. Hell, his speech made him look like a fine candidate that I'd consider swing voting for. Certainly better than anything the Democrats have run in a long time. Then again, I thought Dukakis was an alright guy and the media ruined him after his tank foray.
And guess who went on to win the nomination? John Kerry, member of the Skull and Bone Society along with the guy he ran against, George Bush. Isn't that ironic?
Ike Okereke the fact that a campaign was ended by a yell that had nothing to do with policy or the candidate, and in no way showed that the candidate would be a non effective president
Different times my friend. If you were to take Bob's burgers and play it in 2004, it would only be on late night cable and even then it would be controversial. And remember I'm talking about Bob's burgers. That's what anytime before 2010 was like.
@@billmartin9733 He was always pretty dumb, though. I mean the yell just basically confirmed what everyone already thought. There really wasn't any new information
Because CNN made it a huge story, killed his campaign dead. Dean wasn't establishment enough for them. Notice that just like Bernie that Dean was from Vermont? Apparently this is a problem for CNN.
@@labrocca there is a great YT video about Trump using memes,confidence and overall controversial remarks to appeal to the voters and win the presidental race. Maybe if Dean had created a more rowdy persona for himself after that "Yee-haw",he would have won,who knows?
the news networks just took that scream, sliced out the whole buildup and crowd noise, and basically played it non stop every day for weeks until his capaign was dead. Kerry ended up the DNC frontrunner, and Bush legit beat him on election day.
Man, when this happened I was in 4th grade and had no idea about anything, I thought 'thats politics I guess' Now it honestly breaks my heart, this guy actually looked happy and enthusiastic, and it's pretty obvious that the media just decided he's done, and took anything they could find and decided that it was embarrassing, even though no one cared before the media told them it was embarrassing. Poor guy. The treatment he got is disgusting.
WOW I was in 5th grade and I wasn't into politics at the time but I remember this vividly and thought wow that was cringe. (I guess because that's how the media portrayed it to be at the time) Looking back I see nothing wrong with this he was just enthusiastic and passionate.
I’m a little older than you, my mom was a big supporter of his though and I was perhaps too political as a kid looking back. My opinions have changed much over the years, but neither then nor now do I understand why so many people turned on him over this.
Stop blaming the media. It’s the retarded US populace that’s the problem. If Americans weren’t so fucking dumb they wouldn’t just follow what the media says. The media is a product of capitalism, profits are god so we have to look at the people who buy into it
So odd that the media tried this with Trump a thousands times harder and with much more damning stuff and it didn't affect him negatively in the slightest. But this guy one silly scream and it was over. Makes no sense.
The scream that doomed Howard Dean refers to a pivotal moment during the 2004 Democratic presidential primary race in the United States. Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, was a front-runner in the Democratic primary and gained significant support, particularly among young and progressive voters, due to his opposition to the Iraq War. On the night of the Iowa Caucuses on January 19, 2004, Dean delivered a passionate and energetic speech to his supporters after finishing third in the caucus. As he listed states where they would compete in future primaries, he concluded with an enthusiastic and loud scream, which became known as the "Dean Scream." The moment was captured by media outlets and replayed extensively, and it quickly became a symbol of Dean's perceived lack of composure and the narrative that he was too emotional to be a viable candidate. The media coverage of the Dean Scream had a significant impact on public perception, contributing to a decline in Dean's support and ultimately affecting his campaign's momentum. Dean ended up finishing poorly in subsequent primaries, and he withdrew from the presidential race in February 2004. While many factors contributed to Dean's campaign unraveling, the Dean Scream moment became a memorable and often-cited example of how media portrayal can influence public opinion in politics.
For those who don't know: Howard Dean said in an interview with one of the mainstream media programs in 2003 that he was not going to feed or kneel before corporations, and that didn't sit well with the establishment. So, the first opportunity they got, they destroyed Howard Dean.
***** So I saw an interview Dean did with Abby Martin, and let me tell you, I was wrong about the guy. He was admitting that the things he supports were unconstitutional.. I was speechless. I thought I found a moderate Democrat. Boy was I wrong
Using today’s jargon, the media painted him as “crazy” using alternative facts. Same way they make Bernie seem crazy for wanting a decent standard of living for people in the wealthiest nation on the planet.
@@SFO14 Low income families do have a great standard of living in the US. Bernie is just a talking head that socialists like you vote for because he promises handouts. Has nothing to do with helping other people. Nothing is stopping him from giving one of his houses to a needy family.
@@razzendahcuben Giving away all of one's own wealth doesn't solve (or even come close to solving) systemic issues like wealth inequality and class disparity. Reform is necessary, and asking people to ruin their own lives before they're allowed to advocate for that reform is extremely lazy, and you already know that it's not an intelligent point to make so please stop making it.
i was waiting for the bad part but it never came. I guess big media just tells us that this dude "screamed" and "ruined his career" and we are expected to go along with it enthusiastically because he is not established as an insider
Josh Briere) the scream didnt ruin him. The media did. That scream was played repeatedly across all news stations and analyzed and made fun of (you know how 24-hour news is). This scream turned him into a joke in the eyes of many americans. Its unfortunate, but thats how easily someone can lose credibility in the eyes of the public if the media teams up against them. (Disclaimer: I was only 9 during this election and only heard this all recently so i could be completely wrong)
This was one of the most manufactured events (and shameful) in American media history (and that's saying something). If a person is attempting to be heard over a jet engine and you cut the sound of the engine so the listener only hears the person yelling like a maniac, that's exactly what they did. Then after playing it 700,000 times, they then went "Oops, we didn't include the fact that Dean couldn't even be heard in the room over the roar of the audience!". They needed something to destroy Dean's campaign. If this happened today, corporate media would have been busted after the minute or so it took someone upload the complete video from their phone. Instead, we're 20 years down the road and the truth still is unknown to most. The presence of context is essential to understanding anything.
The media attending weren’t aware of the scream becoming a meme until the next day because there was nothing remarkable to report. Something about an omnidirectional microphone that doesn’t pick up crowd noises (?). It is a damn shame because Howard Dean is a good man.
@@datsnuffydude5460 They knew. A great cameraperson I knew said that producers on the ground were calling their bosses that night to warn them they were playing the audio without the full sound mix, just the isolated mic. Dean was calling out Dems and the Iraq war and that had to be stopped. They knew.
This is a really interesting point, the advancement of technology isn't all positives but the fact that people have recording devices at all times means we can avoid situations like this
I wish Howard would come to this video and see all the support he has here. I can’t even imagine the embarrassment this man had to go through just from being genuinely excited. If you ever see this Howard, we salut you!
In 2004, I was in my early 20s when I watched Howard Dean screamed and I was puzzled why is everyone make a big deal out of it in the following days. In 2019, I am in my second half 30s and again I watched Howard Dean scream replay and I *STILL* can't figured out why it is such a big deal.
it's the leadup. his bizarre listing of states, with his voice losing coherence. this was a man who had come in #3 after pinning so much of his hopes on at least #2. He knew he was going to lose New England to Kerry (that phony) and that he couldn't run a campaign outside it. The media then, as now, was tight with the D party and the media knew that Dean was a nutball. They were just being quiet about it up to then because, hey, he might actually be the nominee. This scream couldn't be covered up, so it wasn't. It gave the media cover to attack a Democrat and to appear impartial, when they were really in the tank for ANY democrat. Even that phony Kerry. t. Lieberman Democrat in 2004. yeah, my guy lost too.
Also then believe it or not it was considered unpresidential for a candidate to get crazy or curse or be mean to another politician! Times have drastically changed
@@zimriel bizarre listing of states? He was talking about the next caucus stops and all the places he was campaigning heavily. He wasn't a "nutball", but he was considered "too young" and the big boys hadn't gotten their chance ( Kerry, Hillary, etc ) . How confident the Democrats were that they could beat George Bush Jr.
I...don't see what's wrong with this. I don't know much about Howard Dean but he just seems like a passionate and viable candidate and this clip is what screwed him over?
Niuniu Lai , the radio shows morphed the scream. Made it sound really weird. Then that morphed scream was played over and over. Pretty soon thats all every news station was talking about.
Howard Dean is considering a run to return as Governor of Vermont! During his previous 12-year tenure, taxes were reduced, and Vermont's budget was consistently balanced.
this was the only time Howard showed emotion, he was all business up til this point, very popular, with the same momentum as Bernie Sanders. Here he finally starts to feed off the crowd, and lets out that yell that is literally nothing. But the news networks isolated the scream, cut out everything that came before. Inserted the scream everywhere they could, every promo, commercial, played it non-stop every day for weeks until his campaign was over. And now it's like the only thing people remember him for.
That's what I was going to say. I came here from a reddit politicssub bc a bunch of folks were talking about the scream that did him in. I can't help but be very confused?
My first thought was Dave Chappelle's impersonation. A lot of people think the yell sunk him. Dean said that he withdrew because he had a third-place finish in the Wisconsin primary. Regardless, I chuckle when I hear it.
The media smeared him because he was a lot more progressive than a lot of the Democratic Party. Remember this was all over the news. You’re right, it wasn’t that bad, but the media made him look crazy.
Exactly! Whenever I heard this talked about, you would have thought that he had a crazed, murderous look in his eyes and screamed as if possessed. WTF's the big deal, he was excited and energetic, so what?
+Noah Borthwick he came in 3rd place in the DNC later that year and pretty much got shut out because of his little girly scream. It ruined him. Then Kerry vs Bush happened. And Bush won. If you're going to feel the bern like a punk bitch at least research your political party. You can feel my nuts on your face. #feelthejohnson
It was one scream. That’s all it took. The thing is if this happened today, he’d immediately be the front runner for having such passion and enthusiasm
There’s a way to express Passion and enthusiasm without being over the top outlandish unserious fool.
Now you can mock the disabled, have racial insensitivity, talk of grabbing women, love-whoo Putin, and incite a riot......You may the the White House again.....We are doomed!!!!
We would’ve absolutely loved the guy nowadays we have to choose from a quiet old man or an orange
@@Ch4rlz_ThA_Princ3 He objectively did not.
@@Talisguy buddy I went to an extremely liberal arts university. I even started to unknowingly entertain some of the progressive ideologies.
Ive cared not for politics for the entirety of my life and was actually on the Dems side during the first impeachment trial.
I believed wholeheartedly that such high figures of authority would never make such accusations without KNOWING they had concrete evidence to support the Russia collusion allegations.
But when that entire trial slowly unraveled and showed me the truth of the matter, thats when my interest was piqued and i began closely following his accomplishments and objectives as president.
And objectively he had some of the most sound fiscal policies offered up by any politician since... honestly from what i hear from Gen x and what Ive read.. Bill Clinton.
If he done that in 2016 He would be memed into the Office
Patrick Bateman 😂😂😂😂😂
Patrick Bateman BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY,A MEME THEORY
Mindblow, but he would have actually been good.
You know something? You know something? Ordinary Americans.
Patrick Bateman just like trump
Society owes this man an apology.
No
@@lotharlundgren9509yes
@@lotharlundgren9509aw, did him having a different opinion than you hurt your feelings?
@audellaroque4730 Did you eat paint chips as a baby or something?
Modern society is bad
Ah man, the sincerity is so wholesome. He was ahead of his time.
Far too ahead from his time, I'm afraid
He is a jerkoff I met him in New Hampshire and I asked him about his boy Biden and todays demorat issues he got pissed
observing from 2020, this seems such a stupid, innocuous thing for a politician's career to end over..
I thought so, even then but in 2020 he sounds quiet and reserved.
They’re dumb as fuck for hating on this it’s pretty dope
Revisionist history at it's finest
Shame we can't end the career of Republicans for treason.
Truth lol
2004: Awkward and out of character
2020: Perfectly acceptable
Lol.
Right? If this happened today he’d be a front runner and trending for actually having some passion.
@@joedunphy5064 Agreed. I was kind of bummed the American public didn't give him a chance after that. He had some really good stuff on deck I really liked.
@@vectorhold6489 He was also the first politician that embraced smaller contributions and online footprint that Obama later harnessed for his ascendence.
Nope when everything was regular and now everything has to be over the top and outlandish
You can genuinley hear the passion and determination in his voice throughout the speech
God forbid we have someone this passionate and enthusiastic nowadays.
@user-mg3wg5yx7n true. Can’t have strong men in this society.
@user-mg3wg5yx7n That's about the most ignorant thing I've ever read. Second only to the Bible and Amy Schumer's subtitles in her shitty videos.
Imagine having a presidential candidate that could like.. get amped up without a heart attack and remember so many states in a row in the year 2020
Oof that hit way too hard
Fucking hilarious lmao
Remember so many states in a row 😆
im gonna cry
that would be lit.
God forbid someone actually show genuine emotion.
That was my thought at the time. Dean had energy and knew how to rile up the base. Kerry never came close to that and got the nomination for being "safe." Didn't work out too well, did it?
zecraw I agree, Dean had the best shot at ousting Bush in 2004. I am not in anyway anti-media but it was a shame that the media manipulated it's coverage of this speech to make Dean seem like a mad man. He had an injustice done to him there
God forbid somebody gets horse from talking a lot.
I'm completely outside of American politics and the ideals within- but I'm shocked that a man's career was ruined for a scream and a hoarse voice. That says volumes- absolute volumes- about the American political psyche.
The dude was on-edge of psycho, and his policies were almost as cancerous as Obama's. I'm no fan of the bushes, but their rot was slower at least.
Someone said this was Dean's "I Have A Scream" speech and I laughed way too hard
ahhh charlie. thank you for unveiling this once more
I also came from Charlie's video 🤣
5 months later and he still bringing this up😂 (exact reason I came here bc I didn’t know what he was talking about)
That's why I'm here, too *_YeeAhh!_*
Aww, he was so excited and got ridiculed so harshly for being genuine :(
@Anthony Tucker creepy? Like Joe Biden creepy or what?
Anthony Tucker you’re creepy bruh
@Danny Mt ehh not really
Danny Mt cant take a meme
@Danny Mt i dont see anything creepy-
If he runs in 2020 and just does this scream he’ll win by a landslide
Because memes tbh
Unfortunately 2004 Democrats are no longer welcome in the Democratic party
harryantino 😂😂
Doubt it
Jelly Donut probably true. Classic liberalism is perceived as right wing insanity by 2020 standards of the DNC.
Damn he had so much passion in his voice. It’s really sad how they treated him
Dave chapelle killed it with this skit 😂
And then I'm gonna wash up and be like this "BYAAAGHH"!
Back when having enthusiasm and energy were disqualifying attributes for a presidential candidate.
:(
2020 and the winner has negative energy in his body
@@Lucas-rl1wt Trump lost my dude, just accept it.
@@rhino7915 not even from the US
@Tom Nye wtf just touching your beloved leader makes me Trump supporter/obsessed. You really are snowflakes aren´t you lol
The fact that this is a problem is whats wrong with politics.
It's been around for a long time. They say that one reason why John F. Kennedy won the election in 1960 is because when they appeared on TV together for the first ever televised Presidential debates, Richard Nixon looked ill while Kennedy looked strong and vibrant. (Richard Nixon WAS ill at that time. He had the flu.)
It's probably also one reason that it wasn't widely known at the time of his presidency that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair.
It's nothing new.
Hallie Harker also, Nixon’s PR team didn’t know how to cosmetically prep Nixon the way most candidates today are prepped before going on TV every time. Hell, even before going on stage: stage make-up, for example. They didn’t understand that TV magnifies everything and images are lasting. So Nixon just looked super old and out of date next to a young, handsome, vibrant and smooth skinned JFK. Nixon actually went on TV with zero make-up. Ronald Reagan was probably the first President to really understand how everything on TV matters and that presentation goes a long way. His acting background went a long way. Knowing something and SEEING something are two completely different things in America
@@youtubecommenter37 I didn't help that he was ill during that debate, either. He had the flu or something like it. If you're not feeling well, I don't know that cosmetics are going to mask that.
Nah, taking money from wall street, big pharma, insurance companies, oil companies, military industrial complex, etc. and then doing their bidding instead of representing the people is what is wrong with politics
Wouldn't call it a "problem." It's just funny is all..
Thanks Charlie
"chop that mf'ing desk in half!!!! Byahhhhhh!" :)
The scream didn't doom him. The news media making it out like it was a big deal doomed him. It was pure propaganda to help the other candidate win.
BINGO! the scream was a 'nothing burger'!
Dumb. Bush money doomed him...
But he such a fucking douchebag who gives a shit? The "news media" > yeah cuz they always out to make DEMOCRATS look bad, right? LOL
Let me guess.... Fox News?
@@randolphmantooth5324 This was during a primary against a more establishment backed democrat.
I don’t see how passion for one’s job translates into “bad candidate”
Kingwaffleton Agreed!! Motivation and being self-driven is so rare and wonderful!! Hard-working kind of guy!!
Final solution fantasy.
Democrats have a standard for decor, professionalism, and manor. Had he been running as a Republican, I've no doubt he would have been elected President.
Haroldbeavis1969 that’s the funniest thing I’ve read all year. Thanks for the laugh
Jimmulator A Republican President can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and Republicans won't care.
I just came from PenguinZ0 "cringe is unforgivable" video. This doesn't seem cringey to me. Maybe it is due to hard training on tiktokers, karens etc.
You’re right this is not cringe. Neither was penguinZo video. PenguinZo is a man who turned his back on Christ
Same
it was cringe but not nearly cringe enough to end someone's entire career
@@Mackenzie002 shut up Jesus does not exist and your religion is just as dumb as any other religion
lol we've built up cringe immunity
20 years ago today
Wow bro that's wild
this guy should be a commentator for the WWE
lollll
I first heard this as an audio file somewhere and thought that it was from a wwe match.
haaa.........
YEAHH
BY GOD MANKIND IS BROKEN IN HALF YEEEAAAAAH
I legit do not see how a mildly awkward low-volume yell is a big deal for people looking at who to choose for a political leader. WTF, people?
The reason why democracy is retarded lol. Nothing better, so just roll with the punches I guess.
I agree, it was pretty cringe admittedly but candidates have made worse gaffes.
But keep in mind this was a different time (early 00's)
That’s liberal America where the way you drink your water from a bottle is a reason to be impeached
A lot of wise people believe that individuals need to earn a voice, only because there’s a lot of power in it.
But at the same time it’s like, we don’t want to just silence people... it’s always complicated haha. Two opposites and we’re trying to find the middle
@@dennisbrown2106 lol swing and a miss
The irony that by today's standards.
His scream would've been the most tame thing any politician could ever do on live television. Now we have people in office who act like total jackasses or just plain assholes on public television,the people don't demand for the resignation of said politician
Why is that scream hidden in breaking bad 😭😭😂😂😂
before the scream he sounded like a wrestling promonter
Lol! I was thinking the same thing!
He had a stone cold rasp
+Ibrahim Jnah
You need a pair of sunglasses to look as cool as your reply.
+Ibrahim Jnah He started naming the different states and people started chanting WHAT?! after every single one LOL!!
And his name is...
The more states he named, the more aggressive he was getting; it's like he was going from human to Hulk. Poor guy, and he seemed so enthusiastic and happy at the end. 😩🥺
So do I. Howard Dean will always have my support..Hillary Clinton and Al Gore.
I think he might have forgot Alaska. That’s what did it
Don't make me name states, you won't like me when I name states
A local morning radio show put his speech along side recordings of Randy Savage. Hilarity
"We're going to South Carolina! And Oklahoma! And Arizona! And North Dakota! And New Mexixo!..."
"Ok dude, calm down now"
"...AND CALIFORNIA! AND TEXAS!"
"Oh"
Man, and the shout was out of genuine enthusiasm too. What a horrible way to have your campaign destroyed.
I want this guy hyping up my daily life. “He’s going to the bedroom, and the bathroom, and the shower, and the breakfast table. YEAHHH”
😭😭😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Funk yea pupa. I gotta get that mojo or I'm dead soon.
I'm fucking dying
🤣🤣🤣🤣
And yet Donald Trump can make fun of a handicapped person and people are still rooting for him.
+cafeterialoca People are still rooting for Trump because hes right on pretty much everything he talks about. He had a few extreme ideas, but the measure to which hes blowing his rivals both in the GOP and among Democrats out of the water in terms of being right, thats what gets people to support him even with his sometimes extreme thinking. Compared to Trump, the others like Bush, Rodham and comrade Sanders, are stupid little kids in diapers.
DesertStateInEu No, all he's doing is distrating people by say "Fuck Mexicans" and "Fuck Muslims" The guy has no cool down, and he's going to crumble when he tries to negotiate because his whole ideal is "DO WHAT I SAY!" He'll lead us to WWIII with that attitude. Fat ass needs to be shoved off his tower.
cafeterialoca
And thats one of the other things people love about Trump. That his enemies have nothing but lies against him. "waaaa hes a racist waaa hes a bigot waaaaa fascist waaa he went bankrupt 4 times" the moment you try to prove any of these, your argument falls apart. And when all you have against somebody is lies, you know youre in trouble.
DesertStateInEu Sounds like you're just a racist jackass. What is Trump even gonna do? Build a wall? Make people work harder for less money? He's just a jackass who is running his mouth that will crack under the pressure of being president.
cafeterialoca
lol Wrong again. How am I racist exactly? How is Trump racist? See? You have nothing against him or his supporters, all you have is these words you throw around that you dont know the meaning of. Now whos the jackass.
Its not that Trump is gonna build a wall to keep illegals out of the US, its that wtf is your problem with it, and who can do better than Trump? Also hes the number 1 candidate who will NOT crack under pressure as hes demonstrated many times, unlike the other candidates.
So far all we heard from Hillary Rodham and comrade Sanders is "the economy is bad so give me your money, theres terrorists so give me your money, theres climate change so give me your money".
How is Trump gonna make people work harder for less money? Its like you Trump haters live in a fantasy world and you hear these rumors about him and you try to spread these rumors hoping to downgrade him. Youre gonna have to work for your money just like you have so far, is Rodham or the communist gonna give you free money you deluded dipshit? You have nothing against Trump, except for lies.
OMG this was 20 years ago as of today!
Distractible brought me here
Boy, what a gaffe that was!
I still don't see how this could ruin his career. I'd probably blame the journalists for not having anything better to write about.
I doubt very much the scream was what "ended" his run. He only came third in the caucuses to begin with - he just wasn't that popular of a candidate. Of course it makes a good story to blame it on the scream but that's baloney, he's actually exciting to watch or they wouldn't have him featured at the DNC.
It was a slightly different time back then, media talking heads were taken way more seriously when they talked about "presidential behaviour" and limited the options to just soulless automatons that performed according to a script and never acted out of line. ..not that anyone learned from it and applied to current elections.
Howard Dean has contended that it was not the 'Dean scream' that caused him to lose, but rather more his campaign was disorganized that he lossed to John Kerry in 2004. On top of the momentum Kerry had after defeating Dean in Iowa.
Some in the media have also admitted they blew the scream out of proportion, which they did.
davcar35 Dean's own explanation makes way more sense.
he lost because no one wanted him.
I can't believe that scream doomed him. The scream is hilarious and it just seemed like was really into it. I loved it.
In context Dean had expected to do better in Iowa than he did. And there was a runup of weird Dean comments like what he'd said to the LGBTs, "Clinton was acclaimed as the first black president - I'll be the first GAY president!". National Review had a full cover issue "please nominate this man" because those conservatives smelled a weirdo whom Shrub could beat.
This looked like a meltdown because - it was a meltdown.
Dean sobered up later and was a competent DNC leader, as 2006 proved.
@@zimrieloh shit u know ur shit
People were naturally more based back then, social media hadn’t ruined everything yet
Yeah,ruining everything, such as using the word based.
In 2004, it was a career ender. In 2024, it would be a career maker.
yup, Charlie brought me to this video
Me too :)
This is far from cringe, it doesn't even rank as slightly out of the ordinary.
If I've learned anything from social media in all these years, its that if something gets even a bit of traction, most people will join in whether they agree or not. We're just so incredibly tribal and easily led. Shout out some hyperbolic ridicule, and watch people join in. 🙁
Same
He was so proud of his scream😂 I feel like he was practicing that scream for a week, I feel so bad
carlos8gomez59 nail on the head.
No one would elected this fool for anything,, The scream had nothing to do with it.. If he was black like Obola,, he would have been elected solely because of his race... Libturds are such idiots
grow up clark racist like yourself still did not stop Obama from being elected twice read a book or something # your an idiot.
Clark Air Base pathetic troll
cool story bro. I laugh when republican voters say libtard, seeing as how educated people vote left and morons vote right
Who else came here because of Charlie’s Video😂
Same 😂
He seems to know many states.
Lmao most underrated comment ever
howard we get it, you mastered US geography in third grade
@@spencerjohnson7103 lmao still better than most Americans tho
I think he made a couple up and nobody noticed
Wait, people don’t know the states?
I remember poor guy just because he yelled like that.
Who's here after Charlie's video 😂
As a kid I never understood what was wrong with this......I still don't.
+Aj007cool That probably explains your profile picture...
+rich m K.
+rich m Best reply I've seen in a long time. Kudos sir.
As a kid I never knew what politics were, I only knew what being a kid was. I miss 2004
+Worldraven .Nevar Cool story bro.
“BYAHHH!”
-Dave Chapelle
Exactly what brought me here lmao 😂
Lol damn u
That's what brought me here. I'm deadddddddd. 😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loved it
Charlie white sent me here
penguinz0 vid sent me here, wasnt even bad lul rip
Absolutely love the energy coming from this guy. It sucks that this damaged his career
I don't
@@warpigsheals you are massively gay
*Sad raptor noises*
That's called cocaine, my friend.
Should have never dropped outta that race. In retrospect this is not embarrassing at all compared to our modern shameless politicians.
_"The scream that doomed Howard Dean"_
No. The media *character assassinated him.*
What year were you born?
THIS! I remember it when it happened. The MSM freaked out and flushed him down and I was asking myself why was his screaming a big deal lol. MSM was more powerful back then because people trusted it. Trump, however, couldn't be flushed despite multiple attempts.
Bustersword88 it's actually interesting - the kind of media scrutiny that killed Howard Dean actually made Trump far stronger. In their attempts to hit Trump's credibility, they accidentally gave him millions of dollars worth of advertising.
It's forgotten that there was actually quite a lot of bipartisan catharsis in watching Trump smack around the establishment candidates back in the primaries. I
Be N S O N yeah. Turned out so well, huh? He sure is doing a great job kicking around those establishment chronies...
As they literally are now in power and dividing up our country's public land and structure for themselves.
Trump was constantly in the news in the 2016 election. Even bad publicity is free publicity. And he drowned out everyone else.
"CNN issued a public apology and admitted in a statement that they might have 'overplayed' the incident. The incessant replaying of the 'Dean Scream' by the press became a debate on the topic of whether Dean was the victim of media bias. The scream scene was shown an estimated 633 times by cable and broadcast news networks in just four days following the incident, a number that does not include talk shows and local news broadcasts. Some in the audience that day reported that they were unaware of the 'scream' until they saw it on TV."
- From Wikipedia
We didn’t deserve Howie. Guy loves America.
The worst part is that they deemed him "Un-presidential" because of that scream. Yet it is one of those examples that show what passion really is. But people seem to be so narrow minded and misguided to even think.
i remember this moment and i dont remember anyone saying that. we just thought it was weird in context
Xian that because you're a brainwashed moron. You've never been so excited about something as to let out some kind of cheer? Lol go back to letting the media think for you.
It was more of a squeal. Very unmasculine.
Exactly and look where we are now
He was an awful candidate. Full of anger and empty inside.
if howard dean made that scream in 2020 no would care
Blame SNL
Now yuo see...
Does that say more about Howard Dean or more about America in 2020?
@@timothygalvin3021 we've gotten less judgemental
@@CrowClouds another way to say that is we've lowered our standards
so this is what Charlie was talking about
You know something...you know something...I enjoyed this clip.
I actually feel bad,he looks so excited and happy
So I was 11 years old when this happened, and I never really understood why this sank Howard Dean's campaign. He gets a little excited and hypes the crowd up after a somewhat disappointing finish in the primary, lets out a "YEAH!" at the end of his speech, and that somehow makes him un-electable? Nothing to do with his stances on issues or anything? Regardless of his politics, something as insignificant as saying "YEAH" or "BYAAW" if you're a Chappelle's Show fan should not ruin a presidential campaign.
I know that it's stupid but the media controls a lot more than you think and late night shows and news broadcasters constantly made fun of it so Howard Dean slowly faded away into a joke
The truth is he was already sinking in the polls; the scream definitely didn't help...
+BJMcB92 agreed. This is the first time I've seen this clip and it doesn't seem odd at all. If THIS is why he lost popularity, that's pretty fucking shallow. The Trumps, Carsons, Bachmans, etc. of the world make this clip seem benign.
+BJMcB92 That's brain-dead America for you. To the average voter, politicians have to act like composed robots without any sense of sincerity.
+BJMcB92 i was eight going on nine then, and remember this too and I found it pretty funny. It's also pretty funny that I'm from Iowa, so here was something that went down in my home state. I also remember the 2004 election representing the first time I really understood politics on any level, being against Bush and being bummed out when he stole an election for the second time. I voted for Kerry in the Nickelodeon kid's pick mock election deal, and he actually won the kids' vote.
We need a Howard Dean today.
He is still aliive and younger than Trump and Biden.
@jeffboone7959 it doesn't have to he him. It just needs that enthusiasm. Biden doesn't have it and Trump doesn't deserve it
I remember when this happened. I was in my early 20s. I had no party affiliation, no political opinion, didn't care a wit about politicians.
Howard Dean got what we would call canceled today for an enthusiastic utterance. How crazy is that? He was canceled by his own party and constituents for being excited.
Politics have only gotten more divisive and insane since then.
We deserve what we tolerate.
The fact this effected his campaign is actually disgusting and shows were our priorities lay
*affected *where
*lie
It is.
I don’t think he would’ve had a chance anyways, Bush was able to win the popular vote and the electoral college by exploiting peoples’ fears, post-9/11
Has nothing to do with priorities. It's about the power of media and the money they make. That's it.
He lost the election... because... of... a scream... Thank you America.
Your welcome
+Hyperkinmario 4 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Hyperkinmario 4 those noodle arms looks like you lift
+Hyperkinmario 4 YA!!!!!
Hyperkinmario 4 daaaaaaaaang
Rick and Morty just brought me here
Charlie brought me here.
He literally just screamed and then news outlets just ruined him for no reason
he wasn't the media elites anointed choice.
I'm a right leaning libertarian and I see nothing at all wrong with the scream. Hell, his speech made him look like a fine candidate that I'd consider swing voting for. Certainly better than anything the Democrats have run in a long time. Then again, I thought Dukakis was an alright guy and the media ruined him after his tank foray.
And guess who went on to win the nomination? John Kerry, member of the Skull and Bone Society along with the guy he ran against, George Bush. Isn't that ironic?
Yeah...Karma..Kellin the room is here now. Redemption for the USA is coming.
The fact that this actually ruined his campaign is just testament to how shallow and superficial American society is.
YAHHH
OutlawStarkiller
How? Please explain.
Ike Okereke the fact that a campaign was ended by a yell that had nothing to do with policy or the candidate, and in no way showed that the candidate would be a non effective president
Ani Nair
People blamed it on the scream, but it was more than that.
OutlawStarkiller i know looooogic
superficial?
I never understood what was dooming about this speech. The passion was something I always appreciated.
Dude his voice before the scream sounds like a good wwe announcer
I don't understand how even in 2004 this could Doom someone's career? This was freaking funny & fun
Simple: The media had it out for him. They spun up a ridiculous narrative about him and repeated it over and over again.
Different times my friend. If you were to take Bob's burgers and play it in 2004, it would only be on late night cable and even then it would be controversial. And remember I'm talking about Bob's burgers. That's what anytime before 2010 was like.
What was the ridiculous narrative about him?
@@jygb7092 : That he was unstable and out of control.
That's especially ironic, since people who knew him said he was a low drama person.
@@billmartin9733 He was always pretty dumb, though. I mean the yell just basically confirmed what everyone already thought. There really wasn't any new information
are you kidding me? this scream should have guaranteed him the presidency!
Jeffrey Bird Screw you
Unfortunately, the Democrats were (and are) afraid to think outside the box and nominate a candidate the MSM puts beyond the pale...
This is looked down upon more than a President grabbing people by the pussy.
I still don't understand why this doomed him. I loved it..... it was great energy. I'm not a Democrat but I wish we had a candidate like him now.
That wasn’t even bad. wtf were they on about?
How did that ruin him? Thats damn near half a "yee-haw", the most American thing he could have done!
Because CNN made it a huge story, killed his campaign dead. Dean wasn't establishment enough for them. Notice that just like Bernie that Dean was from Vermont? Apparently this is a problem for CNN.
@@labrocca there is a great YT video about Trump using memes,confidence and overall controversial remarks to appeal to the voters and win the presidental race. Maybe if Dean had created a more rowdy persona for himself after that "Yee-haw",he would have won,who knows?
the news networks just took that scream, sliced out the whole buildup and crowd noise, and basically played it non stop every day for weeks until his capaign was dead. Kerry ended up the DNC frontrunner, and Bush legit beat him on election day.
@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 I wonder what lemony scented emperor you could be talking about?
@CornPop Was A Bad Dude Come on Maaan
DumpChump2020 for a better tomorrow.
Man, when this happened I was in 4th grade and had no idea about anything, I thought 'thats politics I guess'
Now it honestly breaks my heart, this guy actually looked happy and enthusiastic, and it's pretty obvious that the media just decided he's done, and took anything they could find and decided that it was embarrassing, even though no one cared before the media told them it was embarrassing. Poor guy. The treatment he got is disgusting.
WOW I was in 5th grade and I wasn't into politics at the time but I remember this vividly and thought wow that was cringe. (I guess because that's how the media portrayed it to be at the time) Looking back I see nothing wrong with this he was just enthusiastic and passionate.
I’m a little older than you, my mom was a big supporter of his though and I was perhaps too political as a kid looking back. My opinions have changed much over the years, but neither then nor now do I understand why so many people turned on him over this.
Stop blaming the media. It’s the retarded US populace that’s the problem. If Americans weren’t so fucking dumb they wouldn’t just follow what the media says. The media is a product of capitalism, profits are god so we have to look at the people who buy into it
I love it.... he deserved it 😂
So odd that the media tried this with Trump a thousands times harder and with much more damning stuff and it didn't affect him negatively in the slightest. But this guy one silly scream and it was over. Makes no sense.
The scream that doomed Howard Dean refers to a pivotal moment during the 2004 Democratic presidential primary race in the United States. Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, was a front-runner in the Democratic primary and gained significant support, particularly among young and progressive voters, due to his opposition to the Iraq War.
On the night of the Iowa Caucuses on January 19, 2004, Dean delivered a passionate and energetic speech to his supporters after finishing third in the caucus. As he listed states where they would compete in future primaries, he concluded with an enthusiastic and loud scream, which became known as the "Dean Scream." The moment was captured by media outlets and replayed extensively, and it quickly became a symbol of Dean's perceived lack of composure and the narrative that he was too emotional to be a viable candidate.
The media coverage of the Dean Scream had a significant impact on public perception, contributing to a decline in Dean's support and ultimately affecting his campaign's momentum. Dean ended up finishing poorly in subsequent primaries, and he withdrew from the presidential race in February 2004.
While many factors contributed to Dean's campaign unraveling, the Dean Scream moment became a memorable and often-cited example of how media portrayal can influence public opinion in politics.
Rick and Morty reminded me to revisit this classic relic from the early 00s.
For those who don't know: Howard Dean said in an interview with one of the mainstream media programs in 2003 that he was not going to feed or kneel before corporations, and that didn't sit well with the establishment. So, the first opportunity they got, they destroyed Howard Dean.
***** So I saw an interview Dean did with Abby Martin, and let me tell you, I was wrong about the guy. He was admitting that the things he supports were unconstitutional.. I was speechless. I thought I found a moderate Democrat. Boy was I wrong
lmao. you people still think Dean is a viable human being, I mean candidate for anything. woohoo.
Grey Winters did you see where I said I was wrong about the guy?
Erik Munoz
Missed it sorry. Good move. but is their such a thing as a moderate democratic politician alive any longer.
Grey Winters Sure there is. And there is such a thing as a moderate Republican also. The question I think you're asking is, can moderates get elected?
I really don't see why it was controversial.
Honestly, I appreciate the apparent enthusiasm and authenticity.
Using today’s jargon, the media painted him as “crazy” using alternative facts. Same way they make Bernie seem crazy for wanting a decent standard of living for people in the wealthiest nation on the planet.
@@SFO14 Low income families do have a great standard of living in the US. Bernie is just a talking head that socialists like you vote for because he promises handouts. Has nothing to do with helping other people. Nothing is stopping him from giving one of his houses to a needy family.
@@razzendahcuben You are criticizing “socialists” and in the same breath asking Bernie to give away a house 😂
@@razzendahcuben Giving away all of one's own wealth doesn't solve (or even come close to solving) systemic issues like wealth inequality and class disparity. Reform is necessary, and asking people to ruin their own lives before they're allowed to advocate for that reform is extremely lazy, and you already know that it's not an intelligent point to make so please stop making it.
This guy should come back.
Rick and Morty brought me back to this core memory.
i was waiting for the bad part but it never came. I guess big media just tells us that this dude "screamed" and "ruined his career" and we are expected to go along with it enthusiastically because he is not established as an insider
I was thinking the same exact thing
Josh Briere) the scream didnt ruin him. The media did. That scream was played repeatedly across all news stations and analyzed and made fun of (you know how 24-hour news is). This scream turned him into a joke in the eyes of many americans. Its unfortunate, but thats how easily someone can lose credibility in the eyes of the public if the media teams up against them.
(Disclaimer: I was only 9 during this election and only heard this all recently so i could be completely wrong)
No, that's a male acting like an ass
This was one of the most manufactured events (and shameful) in American media history (and that's saying something). If a person is attempting to be heard over a jet engine and you cut the sound of the engine so the listener only hears the person yelling like a maniac, that's exactly what they did. Then after playing it 700,000 times, they then went "Oops, we didn't include the fact that Dean couldn't even be heard in the room over the roar of the audience!". They needed something to destroy Dean's campaign. If this happened today, corporate media would have been busted after the minute or so it took someone upload the complete video from their phone. Instead, we're 20 years down the road and the truth still is unknown to most. The presence of context is essential to understanding anything.
The wrote all of that to not say shit.
Ryan Palmer you missed “The presence of context is essential to understanding anything”.. you’re the idiot here Jack
The media attending weren’t aware of the scream becoming a meme until the next day because there was nothing remarkable to report. Something about an omnidirectional microphone that doesn’t pick up crowd noises (?). It is a damn shame because Howard Dean is a good man.
@@datsnuffydude5460 They knew. A great cameraperson I knew said that producers on the ground were calling their bosses that night to warn them they were playing the audio without the full sound mix, just the isolated mic. Dean was calling out Dems and the Iraq war and that had to be stopped. They knew.
This is a really interesting point, the advancement of technology isn't all positives but the fact that people have recording devices at all times means we can avoid situations like this
2nd part of his speech sounded like a Stone Cold promo with the crowd saying no instead of what lol
I wish we had a president with this enthusiasm instead of the fossils we have today
I wish Howard would come to this video and see all the support he has here. I can’t even imagine the embarrassment this man had to go through just from being genuinely excited. If you ever see this Howard, we salut you!
Hell I might come back to this comment section when I’m feeling like crap.
He hasn't left his room since then...
@@wolfgabriel we shall be here waiting bro. We are here 24/7. Stop by anytime! Yee haw!
At least he got a Chapelle show skit in his honor and is in the into to the podcast "Abe Lincoln's Top Hat" i hope he gets royalties.
He sounds like a wrestler promoting an upcoming event
Omg big fax. He sounds like John Cena trying to be cool or some shit.
Howard "Cheap Pop" Dean.
WHAT?
Snap into a Slim Jim!! PYAAAAA!
🤣
2004: We wasn't ready
2024: We're ready!😂
If this happened in 2016 he would’ve been memed right into office.
In 2004, I was in my early 20s when I watched Howard Dean screamed and I was puzzled why is everyone make a big deal out of it in the following days.
In 2019, I am in my second half 30s and again I watched Howard Dean scream replay and I *STILL* can't figured out why it is such a big deal.
it's the leadup. his bizarre listing of states, with his voice losing coherence. this was a man who had come in #3 after pinning so much of his hopes on at least #2. He knew he was going to lose New England to Kerry (that phony) and that he couldn't run a campaign outside it.
The media then, as now, was tight with the D party and the media knew that Dean was a nutball. They were just being quiet about it up to then because, hey, he might actually be the nominee.
This scream couldn't be covered up, so it wasn't. It gave the media cover to attack a Democrat and to appear impartial, when they were really in the tank for ANY democrat.
Even that phony Kerry.
t. Lieberman Democrat in 2004. yeah, my guy lost too.
Also then believe it or not it was considered unpresidential for a candidate to get crazy or curse or be mean to another politician! Times have drastically changed
@@zimriel bizarre listing of states? He was talking about the next caucus stops and all the places he was campaigning heavily. He wasn't a "nutball", but he was considered "too young" and the big boys hadn't gotten their chance ( Kerry, Hillary, etc ) . How confident the Democrats were that they could beat George Bush Jr.
It wouldn’t be a big deal today
same
I...don't see what's wrong with this. I don't know much about Howard Dean but he just seems like a passionate and viable candidate and this clip is what screwed him over?
Niuniu Lai , the radio shows morphed the scream. Made it sound really weird. Then that morphed scream was played over and over. Pretty soon thats all every news station was talking about.
cliff elgin That is such friggin bullshit. I mean the radio shows doing that, not you saying it.
Niuniu Lai It was all media. They only focused on the "yeah", made him sound strange, etc.
+Verbin Weaver he is a strange libtard, he still thinks Hillary is going to be president...lol. Heard him say that today.
+Niuniu Lai Check out Breaking bad watch?v=sGN3SBVIjjA haha at 1:07 you will hear "Howard Dean's" Scream :D
Charlie brought me here
Howard Dean is considering a run to return as Governor of Vermont! During his previous 12-year tenure, taxes were reduced, and Vermont's budget was consistently balanced.
Seriously, that’s it? It’s literally nothing.
Michael Price this was 2004 bro, the time you didn’t wanna be a meme
this was the only time Howard showed emotion, he was all business up til this point, very popular, with the same momentum as Bernie Sanders. Here he finally starts to feed off the crowd, and lets out that yell that is literally nothing.
But the news networks isolated the scream, cut out everything that came before. Inserted the scream everywhere they could, every promo, commercial, played it non-stop every day for weeks until his campaign was over. And now it's like the only thing people remember him for.
@@wdkaye Anything is possible when you open your heart to hatred and boredom from endless repetition by the electron mediaverse
Precisely.
That's what I was going to say. I came here from a reddit politicssub bc a bunch of folks were talking about the scream that did him in. I can't help but be very confused?
2020 and the scream honestly doesn’t seem like anything anyone would’ve remembered an hour later
My first thought was Dave Chappelle's impersonation. A lot of people think the yell sunk him. Dean said that he withdrew because he had a third-place finish in the Wisconsin primary. Regardless, I chuckle when I hear it.
Say it with me, folks: to be cringe is to be free! This man was ahead of his time
I'll take the Dean Scream over "Pokemon Go to the polls" any day.
Facts
or the "i always got hot sauce in my bag" one
Hillary was straight up cringe
Exactly
LOL They will never live that down as far as I'm concerned
@@hamadaj8081 the hot sauce quip sends chills down my spine to this day. Painfully out of touch.
seriously? that "scream" really wasn't that bad.
Lord Altros... Yeah but it was a very primal, "I'm the man" scream. He was trying to lead the people into battle but all it did was turn them off.
The media smeared him because he was a lot more progressive than a lot of the Democratic Party. Remember this was all over the news. You’re right, it wasn’t that bad, but the media made him look crazy.
MetaL BraiN \m/Extreme Metal Enthusiast \m/ Liberal media's favorite tactic
You think that's bad? You should read about what happened to ed Miliband because of a picture of him eating a sandwich
Apokolips Lord "of the whole world"
this is the kind of passion id love to see today, id sure vote for him
That yell makes a great Android phone notification sound 😂
Wait, where's the crazy scream that caused him to lose? All I saw is him getting excited!
+Noah Borthwick 0:35
Apparently if your voice cracks when you say "yeah!" your campaign is doomed.
Exactly! Whenever I heard this talked about, you would have thought that he had a crazed, murderous look in his eyes and screamed as if possessed. WTF's the big deal, he was excited and energetic, so what?
+Noah Borthwick We lived in different, more polite times then. the bar has been lowered, and lowered and lowered with Trump.
+Noah Borthwick he came in 3rd place in the DNC later that year and pretty much got shut out because of his little girly scream. It ruined him. Then Kerry vs Bush happened. And Bush won. If you're going to feel the bern like a punk bitch at least research your political party. You can feel my nuts on your face. #feelthejohnson