Eugene Stoner: Development Of The AR-15: Part 1

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  • Eugene Stoner was interviewed in 1988 about the development and adoption of the AR-15 rifle in the US military.
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Komentáře • 132

  • @Allen338LM
    @Allen338LM Před 2 lety +165

    That is forever going to be my quote to remember Eugene stoner for the current AR-15 and modern rifles what started it all "A hobby that got outta hand"

    • @jimziogas8978
      @jimziogas8978 Před 2 lety +17

      He certainly gave me a nice hobby as well!

    • @GeneMstoner
      @GeneMstoner Před rokem +3

      I like to look at it as an affliction

    • @lancegardner8560
      @lancegardner8560 Před 9 měsíci +2

      How can you improve perfection. It's still better than any other option. There is no better weapon.

    • @Roddy556
      @Roddy556 Před 6 měsíci

      Pretty legit gun guy thing to say.

  • @justinmishler6758
    @justinmishler6758 Před 2 lety +53

    It’s good to get this interview on as many channels as possible on CZcams

  • @KeithJBrett
    @KeithJBrett Před 7 měsíci +5

    49:20 “Is this a problem, generally, in military testing, that, if you can’t meet the requirement, you change the requirement?”
    Exactly what the military is doing with recruiting.

  • @RealityCheckGA
    @RealityCheckGA Před 2 lety +34

    I just want to point out the persistence of Eugene Stoner when Sabotaged by Competitors, Doubters, and Willfully Negligent Users. Truly inspiring.

    • @railfanningpoints2.045
      @railfanningpoints2.045 Před 2 lety +4

      US government was and still is thoroughly corrupt. Let's Go Brandon!

    • @Roddy556
      @Roddy556 Před 6 měsíci +1

      So much BS with the poor quality powder, unchromed bores, unnecessary forward assist. I wonder how dominant the rifle would be if he didn't have to deal with such nonsense.

    • @uncleremus5046
      @uncleremus5046 Před 5 měsíci

      Perseverance!!

  • @bobwampler3387
    @bobwampler3387 Před 2 lety +23

    A modern day John Browning.

  • @nox_chan
    @nox_chan Před 2 lety +18

    who ever would have thought the military industrial complex would be so toxic, if only someone had warned us.

    • @MrgunsngearBChannel
      @MrgunsngearBChannel  Před 2 lety +4

      :D

    • @Sman7290
      @Sman7290 Před 2 lety +4

      I seem to recall that someone, somewhere, did try to warn us. I can't recall who or where, but I think it was a long time ago, so it was probably not anyone worth listening to.

    • @Edmondson_Avenue
      @Edmondson_Avenue Před 2 lety +2

      Eisenhower

    • @joyceleadbetter2600
      @joyceleadbetter2600 Před 17 dny

      Eisenhower in his farewell address, 1961, warned us about the " military industrial complex ".

  • @cosmicatrophy4648
    @cosmicatrophy4648 Před 2 lety +13

    I just got done watching the sit down between Kalashnikov and Stoner. This is a welcome surprise

  • @matt291
    @matt291 Před 11 měsíci +12

    Has anyone else noticed that the endurance of the AR-15 as such a successful design was likely the result of all the times the Army tried to screw Eugene and his team over? Each time they made his job harder he refined his design just a little more. Through this evolution it became inevitable that it would win out.

    • @thedewdster
      @thedewdster Před 9 měsíci +3

      Yea it def stood the test of time, but honestly it's original design was just as good minus the thin barrel and bakelite plastics. It was reliable and extremely functional. You could argue the original was better due to it's weight, but maybe slightly less durable.

  • @bryanduchane2371
    @bryanduchane2371 Před 2 lety +39

    Such a great piece of US Military history!!!
    This is a video I'll never forget!!!
    Thanks so much for sharing this interview!!

  • @appalachiangunrunner5613
    @appalachiangunrunner5613 Před 2 lety +8

    This story would make a good movie

    • @herknorth8691
      @herknorth8691 Před 2 lety +3

      The Russians made a movie about Kalashnikov. Maybe we can talk them into doing one about Stoner too, seeing as Hollywood would never do it.

    • @BaconSlayer69
      @BaconSlayer69 Před rokem

      It would

    • @nickloven6728
      @nickloven6728 Před 9 měsíci

      It's one of my favorite stories. It definitely should be a movie. The AR15 is so politicized now. It would be good for the masses to know how it originally came about instead of CNN telling them it was created in hitlers bunker or whatever.

  • @jaredlostetter265
    @jaredlostetter265 Před 2 lety +21

    Stoner was always a 20" man...
    M16A4 UNION CHECKING IN 🇺🇸

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +29

    As an aviation fan, and hearing this interview, wasn’t Fairchild originally an Aircraft company?

    • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
      @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +8

      Never mind, yep

    • @m118lr
      @m118lr Před 2 lety +3

      ..yes, in a word

    • @docholliday3273
      @docholliday3273 Před 2 lety +3

      Absolutely, Fairchild was bought out by, I believe, M7 in San Antonio. They still have a huge warehouse full of aviation parts up in Hagerstown, MD. Fairchild/Hiller got into helicopters. I spent 26 years in the Navy as a maintenance type and am very familiar with Fairchild......great company. What's going to happen in this country is that, one day, folks will wake up and realize that we only have four major DoD contractors.....Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Northrup Grumman and Raytheon which is really a shame. Sikorsky just got bought up by Lockheed

    • @psychosneighbor1509
      @psychosneighbor1509 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm sure they're related but there was also Fairchild Semiconductor(my mother worked there) in the bay area. They went on to become Intel, I believe.

    • @Sman7290
      @Sman7290 Před 2 lety +4

      They built the A-10 Warthogs.

  • @Stargazer80able
    @Stargazer80able Před 2 lety +5

    Thanks to Curtis Le May, The US had a fenomenal rifle that none of the old military politicians wanted.

  • @lawrencemartinjr6888
    @lawrencemartinjr6888 Před 2 lety +11

    ❤️ Who doesn’t love the history of iconic American Weapon companies! Thanks for showing us this.

  • @drummerboyj70
    @drummerboyj70 Před 2 lety +13

    Mike, thank you for posting this. I've wanted something like this where Mr. Stoner described the process of the AR development.

  • @DisgustedGenXr
    @DisgustedGenXr Před 2 lety +10

    This is one of the best videos I’ve ever watched in my entire life I love this guy no wonder I love his firearms so much. He is the man GOAT

    • @tomheineman4369
      @tomheineman4369 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Eugene stoner was my neighbor and don't forget about Bob Bihun, his partner, his neighbour and his friend.

    • @yass5889
      @yass5889 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @tomheineman4369 you are one lucky man, i can tell you that. I would have loved to know him. he looks like a great man.

    • @tomheineman4369
      @tomheineman4369 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@yass5889 I didn't know him but we knew that there was an M16 guy that lived somewhere around.
      I went to school with his God daughter and she knew him like a member of the family. Nobody really cared about the M16 until second amendment, gun rights and the sporting community emerged. I was in the army in the 80s. M16 popularity peaked with the unpopularity of assault weapons.

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +3

    Funny enough, I joined the CG in 2002, and our MoA pieces were M-1s.
    13+lbs with a De-Milled, lead filled barrel… I still want one

  • @dougmoore5252
    @dougmoore5252 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I watched a video of 3 rifles fired 300 yards once, targets were large water bottles. One was a Ruger In 726.51 and was in 308 another and the last in 5.56 AR. All three rounds destroyed the large bottle. But the two larger rounds destroyed the bottle in a similar way, but the 5.56 completely destroyed the large bottle in dramatic manner. Well beyond what the 30 calibers had done.

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +3

    22:14 project SALVO…. I love Ian’s reports about it.

  • @truthjunkie9218
    @truthjunkie9218 Před 2 lety +8

    Great find right there! What a genius he was! Thanks Mrgunsngear B Channel!
    I'll be waiting for , Part 2.

  • @samdesmet7637
    @samdesmet7637 Před 3 měsíci

    It can't be the same people now, but they've circled back to the 6mm. These are wonderful interviews.

  • @RealityCheckGA
    @RealityCheckGA Před 2 lety +4

    This was great to watch. Goes very well with Larry Vickers AR15 Guides . Especially signed.

  • @1991tommygun
    @1991tommygun Před rokem +4

    Lets not forget Jim Sullivan

  • @6mmFilms
    @6mmFilms Před 2 lety +5

    Next up the sit down with Mr. Kalashnikov

    • @jmarvosa6x3
      @jmarvosa6x3 Před 2 lety

      It’s in here, but a hard watch if you dont speak Russian

  • @racknclack9003
    @racknclack9003 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for uploading this! Great info here.

  • @hairydogstail
    @hairydogstail Před 10 měsíci +4

    Yup, the AR-15 is an internal piston and not a DI system..

    • @woodrowcall3158
      @woodrowcall3158 Před 8 měsíci

      It is a Direct Impingement Piston.

    • @hairydogstail
      @hairydogstail Před 8 měsíci

      Nope, it is an internal piston.His patent even calls it a piston, not a DI..DI systems don't use a piston..The Mini 14 is more of a DI than the AR system..@@woodrowcall3158

  • @harrypalms88
    @harrypalms88 Před 2 lety +2

    Such an awesome interview thanks for sharing

  • @inspectorman2018
    @inspectorman2018 Před 2 lety

    If this is part one would love to watch the rest of it!

  • @jasonlanier8758
    @jasonlanier8758 Před 2 lety

    Love these stoner interviews. Thanks for posting them

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Mike for sharing this

  • @m118lr
    @m118lr Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome notable history. Thanks Mike for pushing this out!

  • @dillontimm9442
    @dillontimm9442 Před 2 lety +1

    This is great! Thanks Mike

  • @johnenglish4652
    @johnenglish4652 Před 2 lety

    Thanks. That's a great video.

  • @dksdg
    @dksdg Před 2 lety

    Epic, thank you sir

  • @noahpettibon
    @noahpettibon Před 2 lety

    Thank you!

  • @docholliday3273
    @docholliday3273 Před 2 lety

    This is an absolutely FANTASTIC video. I had the privilege of meeting Gene many years ago and the guy was a total genius.

  • @tomhalla426
    @tomhalla426 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The games played with the FN FAL were classic NIH by Army Ordinance.

    • @Fraederichs
      @Fraederichs Před 2 měsíci

      I’m going to have to search out to find that story.

    • @tomhalla426
      @tomhalla426 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Fraederichs My source was Edward Ezell, but I forget the title of the book.

  • @dt_7557
    @dt_7557 Před 2 lety +1

    My number #1 video on CZcams

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +2

    42:31 says all you need…

  • @johnneal4097
    @johnneal4097 Před 2 lety

    Excellent

  • @JA51711
    @JA51711 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @JP-ec9rl
    @JP-ec9rl Před 2 lety +4

    The "good ole boy" system has always been alive and well in the MIC.
    Officer's wonder why they often hear "that's NCO business Sir".
    You wanted backbone?
    If it weren't for the NCO corps, the U.S. military wouldn't have ever had any spine at all.
    Who says that the European system of oligarchy is dead in America ? It never was.

  • @oldschoolprepper2273
    @oldschoolprepper2273 Před 5 měsíci

    Very interesting thank you

  • @countdracula4656
    @countdracula4656 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Stoner was a nicer man than me. That Ft. Greeley issue where he had to testify at the board, I would have made sure the board knew they were trying to sabotage the project.

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 Před 2 lety +1

    Hell yeah

  • @hindsight2022
    @hindsight2022 Před 2 lety

    Ar10 is where i started too . Didnt get an ar15 for like 3 yrs. Now i have several of each

  • @OregonCrow
    @OregonCrow Před 2 lety

    Nice looking rifle.

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +3

    49:21
    Change the rules to fit your desires… sound familiar?

  • @raftika1
    @raftika1 Před rokem

    April 19, 1988.. Eugene was a real Stoner I see

  • @dustycasto
    @dustycasto Před 2 lety

    What a Stud 👍

  • @TylerO_O.
    @TylerO_O. Před 2 lety

    ARES is the next town over... I never knew any of this... I'm a welder and in lov with firearms, weapon systems and anything Stoner.... I'm gonna look into the company perhaps I can get a job there at somepoint. THAT WOULD BE AMAZING

  • @Longrangetargets
    @Longrangetargets Před 2 lety

    Genius

  • @jimrayne6375
    @jimrayne6375 Před rokem

    So even that far back Powells integrity was in question!

  • @survivetheattack
    @survivetheattack Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool! The fact that the original bolt and carrier was completely hard chromed, and now the premium bolt groups are using simular NiB coatings (I even have one that is ceramic coated), makes me feel better about spending more on my NiB coated carriers and bolts! Also, the reasoning behind the rear charging handle grants the AR180 and other bolt carrier based side charging systems a little more credibility. Good stuff, thanks!

  • @railfanningpoints2.045
    @railfanningpoints2.045 Před 2 lety +2

    AR > everything else. Change my mind.

  • @chrisshumake83
    @chrisshumake83 Před 2 lety

    👍👍

  • @GBCR
    @GBCR Před rokem +1

    Anyone here knows whether a barrel extension like in the AR was used before?
    Thanks.

    • @tomhalla426
      @tomhalla426 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It is a close copy of the 1941 Johnson rifle and LMG, with a separate barrel extension used to set headspace, including the multilug bolt head.

    • @user-hi7oj4ju1t
      @user-hi7oj4ju1t Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​​@@tomhalla426 earlier in Schlegelmilch rifle and Fosbery shotgun. Fosbery shotgun also have very similar multiple lug bolt.

  • @charlesholzschuh5551
    @charlesholzschuh5551 Před 2 lety

    New book called "Misfire". I hear it is go.

  • @flonga1
    @flonga1 Před rokem

    I’m looking for a video clip of Eugene Stoner saying the AR15 was for civilians. I can’t find it, anyone know where it is

  • @yass5889
    @yass5889 Před 8 měsíci

    cant believe they screwed him over like this....glad he came out on top at the end.

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety

    Funny enough, as a SCUBA diver, 7075 aluminum is a bomb, yet 6061 is ok

  • @dandantheman9960
    @dandantheman9960 Před 2 lety

    Full auto AR10 YEAH BUDDY

  • @popinmo
    @popinmo Před rokem +1

    he didn't invent the firearm he perfected it

    • @BaconSlayer69
      @BaconSlayer69 Před rokem +2

      He did invent it actually

    • @popinmo
      @popinmo Před rokem

      @@BaconSlayer69 i ment the gun itself the AR is the best firearm

    • @hansblitz7770
      @hansblitz7770 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Stop huffing paint.

    • @popinmo
      @popinmo Před 9 měsíci

      what?????? tf are you talking about @@hansblitz7770

  • @hansblitz7770
    @hansblitz7770 Před 9 měsíci

    6lb fully loaded, yeah, that's always a nice thing, and they aimed to do that with a 20".

  • @IAF7
    @IAF7 Před 9 měsíci

    Someone in the highest place in the armed forces is doing the same with the selection of m17 and m18.

    • @woodrowcall3158
      @woodrowcall3158 Před 8 měsíci

      Nah, Sig has that procurement slide well lubed.

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety +1

    Sounds like @markserbu

  • @brianziskie4712
    @brianziskie4712 Před rokem

    Military and commercial/civilian application 😏

  • @dirtydoug181
    @dirtydoug181 Před 2 lety

    All hail stoner 🙌 the father of the most popular modern sporting rifle in America.

  • @theseer656
    @theseer656 Před 9 měsíci

    Holy Toledo that first draft of the Ar was a complete disaster!

  • @Edmondson_Avenue
    @Edmondson_Avenue Před 2 lety +3

    For those who think the AR-15 and M16/M4 are different weapons you need to go look for the guy who made the M16/M4 lol
    Some of you think he designed and sold AR-15's to the public first before marketing to the military.
    The AR-15 was strictly developed for the military not civilians and I'm not saying this because I'm anti gun, which I'm not, I'm saying because certain people in the gun community are spreading lies as if the AR-15 and M16/M4 are different, they are the same and all started off as full automatic rifles M16/M4 is just a military designation, AR-15 is the original and real name.
    Even with video of the man who made the rifle you will still have people saying that "they are different and the AR-15 was designed specifically for civilians, and there's no AR-15's in the military" lol Every M16, CAR-15 and M4 is an AR-15.

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Před rokem

      when you remove the full auto capability and use a civilian liter barrel that heats up much faster, it's no longer the same gun.

    • @Edmondson_Avenue
      @Edmondson_Avenue Před rokem +1

      @@alexm566 There's no such thing as a 'civilian liter barrel' most civilian AR-15 are milspec! Original M16's came with pencil barrels and so did the Colt SP1 AR-15.
      There's no barrels difference between the Military M16/AR-15 and civilian accept in the Colt M16A2 Carbine know as the M4/M4A1 Carbine and that difference is the barrel length 14" for military and 16" for civilians.
      Even Mr. Stoner continued to refer to the M16 family of rifles as AR-15's in his video documentaries, so would you say he's wrong and doesn't know what he's talking about?
      You should go watch some of Iraq veteran 8888 meltdown videos on the AR-15/M16 and you'll learn some especially about how wrong your comment is.
      Infact most civilian AR-15 are built to take more damage them the military's M16/M4 because most higher end civilian AR-15's use much better quality parts and that's a known fact.
      But the M16/M4 are AR-15's just as much as an semiautomatic ak/akm to a full automatic ak/akm same gun one just has an automatic function which isn't enough to consider it a different gun, some Mustang's have V6 engines and some have 5.0's but they're still Mustang's.

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Před rokem

      @@Edmondson_Avenue I held both standard barrels and full auto ones and there was a clear difference in weight. Saying that full auto isn't enough to distinguish the two guns is quite a stretch considering there's a felony difference between owning one with or without full auto.
      I am not disputing the origin and the principle of the design was for the military but so were nearly all firearma throughout history even ones we think of as quite wimpy by today's standards. Can you name any popular gun or caliber that didn't start as a military weapon?!

    • @Edmondson_Avenue
      @Edmondson_Avenue Před rokem +1

      @@alexm566 OK let's get to it, milspec barrels are no heavier than civilian barrels it's the grade of steel that's used, milspec barrels are 4150 CMV, Civilian barrels are 4140 CMV there no big difference, in fact most civilian AR-15's used 4150 CMV steel barrels, the M16 barrel profile was originally a pencil barrel profile then later beefed up to a government barrel profile with the M16A2 for the use of 5.56x45mm NATO M855 62gr bullets.
      You asked for me "can I name any gun or caliber that didn't start as a military weapon"
      Bren 10, 10mm Auto
      Cmmg Mutant
      .350 Legend
      .400 Legend
      .460 Rowland
      Ruger RedHawk Alaskan chambered .454 Casull
      S&W .500
      .300 Winchester Magnum
      .338 Lapua Magnum
      .22 time
      .357 S&W Magnum
      .350 SiG
      Hi points firearms etc.

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Před rokem

      @@Edmondson_Avenue and are all of these any less dangerous or unusual than the AR platform and other civilian available firearms?