this is what i don't get... Tik Tok is not getting banned. At absolute worst, somebody else will just make a clone that does the exact same thing. Most likely it will just get sold and no one will even notice a difference. The thing is a cash cow lol it ain't going ANYWHERE. Everyone calling it a ban is just so weird. There was never talk about banning it. Just getting ownership out of China. Whether or not that's morally right is a different issue but it's not getting banned as of right now.
well like... all places that arent america, like europe lmao. Also other americans@@bloodygekkon5048 though ofc itd be a smaller community than it is now
The funny part to me is that TikTok used to be Musically, which was a successor to Vine, but the current atmosphere is absolutely nothing like what Vine was, and I don't think we'll ever be getting another Vine app.
They've been closing some of the loopholes that lets them ship in all their goods basically untaxed. Which it should've been for noncommercial uses anyways, and that loophole gets filled..
I think a big part of the issue is that through Tik Tok people can get direct testimonies from people; like the people in gaza, the Congo or the student protesters. They use mainly tik tok to spread awareness and seems to be the most friendly app algorithm wise for them. Without Tik Tok they wouldn't get the attention they deserve. Regulations should absolutely happen but the brainrot I see on CZcams shorts compared to Tik Tok is like nightmarish, sending kids to youtube shorts seems like absolute hell. Still, the app needs to change but so does CZcams and Instagram and specially Facebook and X
Hard to trust a 30 second clip of testimony from people at war. Or protestors who are largely clueless and in a giant echo chamber. Good point on CZcams shorts, though. All those people will just flock there.
The issue is that it's even easier to spread astroturfed propaganda than grassroots awareness. In 2016 Russia had a huge propaganda campaign to influence the US election, and that was on social media they don't even own. China having control over the TikTok algorithm means they can make millions of Americans believe whatever viral disinformation China wants them to believe.
@@ihavenoideaonanything im just saying i havent had that particular flavor of brainrot. Every major company in the world probably knows me better than i do, but my brain is slightly more intact.
For the love of god, stay that way. I've been trapped in this hell hole for years. T_T In all seriousness, TikTok isn't all that bad but it can be addicting, especially for someone like me who has ADHD as is
I think the perception that Tik Tok houses bad opinions or trends unique to that platform is wildly incorrect. There are the same crazy people on X or Facebook and they’re not being banned. Plenty of folks thought vine would decimate our attention span. Now I’m regularly watching 45 minutes from those same creators. I’ve never seen those trends mentioned, but I have learned about a lot of great small businesses and musicians.
Yeah seeing the perception of TikTok is wild to me. I’ve learned so much from it, yeah I’ve been on it for awhile so my algorithm is pretty good but still. Every platform has brain rot and some bad apples.
The difference is that tiktok makes viralibility more accessible and pushes harmful content more strongly. The few times I've used tiktok, no matter what kind of content I watch or how silly/harmless it is, it always starts pushing me into the anti-vax, alt-right, conspiracy theorist pipeline. Someone looking for content about healthy eating on another platform is far less likely to come across all this "buy my supplements everything else is poison" crap. People live streaming gacha-style scams is far less common on other platforms. There are far, far more "trends" that sexualize and endanger children on tiktok than anywhere else. No, this content isn't exclusive to tiktok (not even counting reels/shorts, since those only arose due to tiktok and tend to have reposted tiktoks)- but it is so much easier to find and continuously consume that content on tiktok than anywhere else.
Thank you for this! I was able to travel the world and experience other cultures in a bite-sized wholesome manner. It’s typically the fearmongers who have never used the platform who have no idea of how beneficial the app has been in fostering conversation and collaboration across cultures. Then again, lobbyists and lawmakers hate seeing money go into foreign pockets & that intel from alt sources is not regulated scares them 🤷 🦅
@christian_dg4948 Eh, while you can pretty easily hand tailor your experience on the platform since their algorithm is pretty good if you consciously manipulate it, the vast majority of popular content on the platform is mind-numbingly shitty low effort trash. It's got some diamonds in the rough, but having to sift through sewage-tier content to get some half decent stuff shown to me consistently just isn't worth it, and doesn't eliminate the garbage being shown to me outside of the platform. Vine died and the content culture never found a new home(which sucks cause it was primarily bangers), and I'm hoping the same happens to tiktok.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied -- chains us all, irrevocably." -- Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Its worth mentioning this ban is motivated by US politicians funded by Israeli government trying to curtail speech that is critical of Israel's brazen genocide in Gaza. The US can't control Tiktok the away they can for Facebook and other social media. So they are trying to ban tiktok because a lot of accounts on the app report news about the genocide.
I'm a teacher and tutor. One of my students who's about 13 asked what JJK is when another student asked me about it. I said it's a show and he genuinely scoffed, because, and I quote, "why would I sit down for 20 minutes? That's so boring." That was the moment I had to shake my fist at clouds.
The whole issue the government has is that they aren’t making any money off of selling our data anymore, not that it is being collected. Otherwise they would pass data protection/privacy laws
i do hate how they can just lump 7 very different things to the same bill. also hate how they can just name a bill what ever. like the "kids online safety act" and it has nothing to do with kids online safety.
I cannot believe they named it that. They need to be targeting CZcams and the awful content farms that periodically show up on the platform if they really care about kids.
The problem I have with tiktok is the content they prioritize pushing. Lots of negative mental health content gets pushed on people, even if they just created their account or are using a guest account. Meanwhile tiktok is actually banned in China and the app that they have bars any videos that glorify mental health issues.
people say "they won't last on instagram or youtube shorts", but like no one is talking about how they'll be migrating to those sites and changing the landscape, the entire algorithm. Brainrot content will most likely skyrocket in those sites, changing everything as creators will seek to compete to stay relevant on the algorithm. Creators are going to have to either keep what they're doing now, or adapt to the changing landscape of CZcams and Instagram. It's exactly what happened to Yahoo Answer users migrating to Quora, and Twitter moving to Instagram and Tumblr.
As a man who hates tik tok I hate how it took a social media to get both Democrats and Republicans unanomusly do something while letting other problems in the United States be put on the back burner.
Yes, as an American I also hate how Republicans vote NO on every issue except this one. I also hate taking away women's rights and the Jan 6th insurrection.
Plenty of rich American guys salivating to own the means of "TikTok" production, so suddenly a bill passes forcing TikTok to sell to an approved investor? 😂
I genuinely want it gone. I'm not lying when I say Tiktok is full of P DO PILES. I've been trolling with some weirdos who want to excuse grooming with their age of consent shenanigans and how it used to be norm back in the days, and I responded like "well surprise surprise, they're still kids 💀" They don't take that fact very well
literally the point, us tryna get the chinese app banned so their own apps get more active
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Large data brokers (who have extremely detailed profiles on you), are very much not against selling your data directly to China, this legislation pretty much does nothing.
Yep. And if TikTok divests to a US company, they'll just continue doing the same thing but with different goals. In fact I trust China more than I trust our own government and corporations at this point. China just wants to make our kids stupid so they can pull ahead. DC, Silicon Valley and the big CEOs want far worse.
As much as I hate TikTok, I can't deny that this could set a fairly dangerous precedent for social media apps. Brainrot will always exist, and if TikTok gets banned, creators will just migrate to CZcams shorts, similarly how Yahoo Answers shut down and caused the people posting there to move to Quora.
I notice CZcamsrs are more logical than Tiktokers so I doubt we will let it brain rot hard because it would most likely get shut down by just pure common sense lol.
I despise TikTok and will never use it. However, when the government starts banning things like TikTok when does it stop. They could use the same logic for CZcams as well. Parents need to step up and be parents and make sure they know what their kids are doing online and stop making the government do it for them
This. The US government can coerce/extort/force American companies to take down things or "misinformation" they don't like. They can't do that with a foreign company. Tell me, which app have people been using to expose what's been going on in Gaza, which makes the US look very bad...?
Exactly! Kids should not even have a damn smartphone until atleast 16. My 14 year old brotherhas a flip phone which he is grateful for. And now he is one of the only kids in his school that actually have intelligence😂💀💀
This is not fair. I run a business on TikTok. Now me, including a bunch of other people who grew their business on TikTok are going to have to go to a 9 to 5
I’ve been conflicted about this the whole time for the same reasons I hate TikTok with a passion, but I think society alone should be the judge of which platforms live and die rather than out of touch 60-80 year olds who post “how to open pdf” as a Facebook status
The impetus for this comes from 30-somethings with the Department of Homeland Security being uncomfortable with the idea of 170 million Americans being broadcast the truth according to the CCP. It's being forced to divest because the Chinese government has used it as a platform to disseminate propaganda and misinformation to American citizens.
Now imagine if the government put all this energy towards issues like unaffordable healthcare, groceries, rent, inadequate education, wage stagnation, immigration, mental health crisis, etc. 'Ya know, stuff that matters.
It’s not like they aren’t trying to pass laws to help homeless and poors, but lots of bills targetting to help poor people were rejected by Americans, mostly conservatives
You can't have a functioning society without poor people. You have to have poor and rich. And almost all homeless people are homeless because they're drug addicts or alcoholics and would rather pay for their addiction than bills. That's their own fault.
@@breadogi7118 if $100 for the poors can’t even be passed then there’s no point trying for anything more. Idgaf about what happens with Israel, it’s whataboutism. I’d love for us to reduce military spending for education and healthcare but that ain’t happening, with any president
@@1DeathScythe36people who think like you are a cancer on humanity. Literally. You'd rather offer justifications instead of help (hurdur someone has to suffer so i can make money off of them cause i value money over humanity) Yeah there's drug abuse and alcoholics rampant in the homeless however instead of, idk, offer any sort of compassion, you'd focus on the fact they made shitty choices and "deserve" what they got. Just why are humans like this?
@@highcapnativeheir to the throne was in open top car, got shot by serbian nationalist, people took it as an excuse to start WWI which would have happened anyways, this was just the catalyst
People getting concerned about data being collected haven't read a single one of the terms and conditions of facebook, twitter, microsoft or google, or even looked into where that goes.
" find joy and be inspired.... also have every single keystroke you've made since you downloaded the app analyzed and saved to a server, dont worry we promise not to do anything with this information worth trillions of dollars"
Dude whenever I go on CZcams shorts tiktok reels etc I just start scrolling and a few brainless minutes or seconds later I’m like wtf am I doing and I stop 😭 it’s actually so bad the way it’s set up for you to not want to leave the apps.
That’s exactly how it’s set up. To be addicting as possible. I personally think we should have a global ban on videos below 1 min or maybe more. It really fucks up your brain
@@supervillainnova8352yes let it be known the reason for the tiktok ban is to prevent people from seeing these events unfold. The gov literally said theyre either banning it or they can sell tiktok to meta. Ppl have no idea the real purpose behind this ban, which was attached onto a foreign aid package to israel !!!
Honestly, I would be happy about this if I didn’t know how many small businesses were kickstarted by TikTok. My own family members have been able to get traction on their business because of TikTok and let’s be real Instagram is just not good for that.
Exactly, I don’t think congress understands how vital something like TikTok is to small businesses. I’ve actually found several great businesses in my state thanks to it. I’ve even bought books from several authors. It’s just sad that US companies fail to do something better than a foreign app, which should be the other way around.
@@Dirty-Leprechaun but the thing is its harder on other platforms to get traction, Instagram is horrible for that, and X is horrible as well. There are no other apps that actually put your work out there. I'm a small business and Instagram has gotten me no traction while TikTok has helped me get some people interested.
I'm one of the people in my age group that never got into tiktok, even an old coworker of mine was suprised I never really used tiktok and said he would spend up to 8 HOURS straight on it, but i couldn't say anything as I'm literally on my phone/videogames as much lol
I think gaming and watching TV shows are a bit hit different to tiktok. Shows and games at least engage the brain while I think tiktok has the effect of putting people on auto pilot which isn't great.
It's about freedom of information. Tik Tok is like hijacking the world establishment of American operating systems. Not much more is needed than the current user-base to introduce their own device and circumvent everrything. Expecting a total boycot of China electronics and software this year.
This isn’t going to take away TikTok it’s going to make China sell the app to US stakeholders. It’s pretty plain that China controls the app either partially or fully and amplifies discourse that makes US citizens more divided than ever on purpose and pushes destructive trends. If US stakeholders get it, it will likely change and be more like how reels is, which is just regular amounts of divisive and stupid and keeps them accountable for the ways app affects us whereas we can’t really sue or punish a Chinese company operating in China.
@@jeremys3951 personal opinion I think the content on tiktok is better. on CZcams shorts it's nearly all made by channels with 50k+ subscribers and so tik tok content just feels more, human
Ironic how much censorship is brought up in regards to banning the app, yet the app has the highest amount of word censorship I've ever seen, which is where creation of infamous terms like "un-alive" and "neurospicy" came into popular usage
This is like the biggest non-argument ever, and especially ironic, when you’re mentioning it on a platform that has also experienced multiple phases in which certain words were deemed not advertiser friendly. I vividly remember when some CZcamsrs were using ‘game-ended’ and CZcamsrs today still need to censor their curses. Tiktok is not the pioneer of restricting or punishing content that contains strong vocabulary, and to think so is really really funny.
@heyitskukii there's "advertiser-friendly"/"child-safe" censorship, and there's tiktok-level censorship where you can't say anything relating to being LGBTQIA+ or neurodivergent(beyond ADD/ADHD) because words like "autistic" and "lesbian" are censored and shadowbanned (e.g. why some people say "acoustic" or "tism/tistic" instead of autistic)
@@Ariaea11 the term acoustic was literally a meme in one of the trends on the app just because of how similar it sounds. In terms of shadowbanning, I've seen numerous neuro divergent and lesbian creators on the app, have you used it or are you judging from an outside perspective?
It's because they are banning it so people cannot get access to news about the genocide against Palestinians. That's why you are all of a sudden seeing headlines; it's because in recent months people on TikTok have been making videos on what is actually happening over there.
@@devoursilentyour defense its irrelevant. its specifically being canceled because its a chinese owned company and the u.s government knows it’s a security risk. not about what is being produced on the platform😭 like do you not pay attention
@@devoursilent TikTok was one of the prime driving force of that garbage content though, well rather Vine was the start, but TikTok took up the mantle and managed to evolve it into something much worse. Then everyone else thought they had to do it too.
The fact that this ban only applies to TikTok and yet Wish, AliExpress, Shein and Temu are still allowed who are doing the same thing with our data says to me that there’s a different underlying reason that the government is banning it. It’s not just China getting our data, it’s something else. As someone who stays far away from TikTok, I have no way of knowing what that reason really is, but I agree that it’s definitely an attack on personal freedom.
Exactly. Not to mention, even if we banned all those Chinese sites, American companies sell our data to grey market data brokers and China could easily get it from them. No, this is 100% a cash grab for the big American social media magnates and attack on free speech, particularly the already disenfranchised younger generations
It doesn't matter. The government banned lawn darts, Four Loko, Juul and a million other things too. It's still a commerce issue and not a speech issue.
@@rawhidelamp no if a bill with multiple things is passed, the president either signs the bill or vetoes the bill they cannot choose items in the bill that they like or dislike. Governors on other hand, you have the ability to do so but the president does not.
Glad to see Democrats and Republicans could agree on something for once. Now if they could put this much energy towards something that actually mattered that'd be great
If the app is such a security risk that government officials can’t even have it installed on any device, I feel like that speaks volumes about why it’s getting banned.
Israel is the only 'approved buyer' in the US government's eyes. Its all a scheme to continue the ethnocide of the Palestinian people. This ban is all AIPAC money.
The bill states that it would be any company not within China, Russia, Iran, or North Korea. So approved just simply means that its country of origin can’t be one of the four mentioned.
US company. Someone who can be held accountable by our laws and statues if they do shady stuff/allow illegal content on the app. Disregarding the privacy and data mining, this is about being able to enforce our laws when the company hosts genuinely damaging content that has farther reaching consequences for our populace (like trends that result in injury or death/breaking laws/harming others for clout).
This happened with Chelsea football club during The Ukraine Invasion as their owner was Russian. The UK Government forced him to sell the club and it was brought by an American owner
I am a teacher and while I have seen the detrimental impact TikTok has had on students, I see this as primarily a parenting issue where kids have unregulated access to the internet. Before TikTok, when I was in middle school and high school, kids were still recording themselves doing dangerous things online (like setting themselves on fire and snorting things). Kids just posted it to other sites or shared it through texts instead. Additionally, our data is constantly being used and sold through U.S. companies as well, and the amount of misinformation that is shared on other social media sites is comparable. Unfortunately, while TikTok is full of garbage, it also gives users the ability to share first-hand experiences that other platforms don't allow (like first-hand accounts of things happening in Gaza right now), and I think that's the real reason behind the ban. There has been a lot of social unrest as average people become more connected and find power in bettering their community by opposing current systems of power. If our government actually cared about our data, they would regulate other social media sites more. If they cared about children, they wouldn't be dissolving public schools and promoting unregulated access to firearms. If they cared about mental health, they would make therapy more readily available. I seriously doubt this ban is due to user data concerns.
Sadly, this is the fastest I've seen a bill go through congress and signed by the President. There's hundreds of actually pressing matters that could've been passed in place of this : /
@@gapsule2326 It's 100% because of Israel. They're upset that young people get news from Tik Tok that exposed all of the war crimes they are currently Committing. This is the only reason.
It will just be replaced by an identical service under a different name. Social media will never die so long as the public at large feeds it our time and attention.
Yes, but it will be controlled and filtered by US moneyed interests. Censorship rarely ever works out in beneficial ways. This is only happening because they support the Gaza genocide and the IDF soldiers keep posting war crimes.
@@tonedeaftachankagaming457 A social media service regulated by its citizens is a fantasy story. A new service will just be another corporate data harvesting machine like Tiktok but served up by the nation that claims moral superiority while having no right to do so.
What’s really confusing is that people see this as a good thing because kids are gonna go outside now. No they are not they are going to be on CZcams. I don’t understand why some people think that CZcams doesn’t give people brain rot. Literally what people complain about tiktok other apps do. TikTok doesn’t have a magnet that sucks on to people. YOU can put your phone down. YOU can go outside and read books. Hell you can do both, you can like tiktok and read! Did people forget booktok exists. It’s messy but hey they are still books
the main problem with shit-tok was the fact that your data could/or have been sold to China, whereas in the other cases like YT shorts, your data is at least sold to somewhere else
Because it's generally not a good idea for a democracy to have one of its biggest social media platforms controlled by a DICTATORSHIP. We should recognize there's not really a moral equivalence between the two. Especially when we know they use it to suppress info about genocide going within their borders and we know algorithms can be used to subtly influence people through subtle changes in the algorithm or by design.
Are we going to have bad lawyer commercials saying you could sue TikTok or something for the defects it caused in your child instead of the old “Mesothelioma” or asbestos ones?
ADHD isnt bad tho. Its just something you learn to live with. Its not gonna kill you. We live in a fast gig economy so having short and constant need for productivity is a product of the environment not TikTok.
I never actually thought this ban would go through tbh. Granted some of the previous bans were for government devices, but those should be expected. The banning of TikTok as a whole for everyone would’ve never been something I actually expected.
Chinese have more freedom of speech than americans. In China you cant critsiz: Chinese government. If you do you get a fair trail and pay the fine/go to jail. In the US you cant criticize: the goverment, women, trannies, gay ppl, black ppl, brown ppl, the jews, elections, s*x education for children, fbi, war in the middle east, ukraine and the list go on. If you do you have no right for a fair trail, you get doxed by media, and lose job.
also the way TikTok said it made it sound only Americans use the app like oh if you shut us down billions of americans will lose their voice like why are they all of a sudden pretending America is the only country? if they leave it open for other countries we have VPNs now, Americans can easily just you know switch to EU and enter tiktok
Yeah ? And how is your comment something to put up AGAINST that quote ? I would understand the point of your comment like 10 years ago , but if you haven't noticed Russia started a war in Ukraine and if Russia had a way to spy on American citizens , i dont think you or any other person in the country would be happy ! And you may ask - "What does Russia have to do with anything ? Tiktok is Chinese !" well maybe the fact that China is literally planning to attack Taiwan and maybe you would be aware of that information if you weren't getting your news from Tiktok , which bans any mention of Taiwan because Chinese government doesn't approve of it . And even in the time of peace , why do you think Chinese would collect data about AMERICAN citizens ? Knowing that China is the closest ally to Russia , and i'm an immigrant from Russia btw , and let me tell you - Russia deems the US as a NUMBER ONE enemy of theirs . And so does China ! So when your enemy collects your data , believe me , its really NOT a good thing , and its insane that i even have to explain this to you...
Charlie… tiktok isn’t the only thing killing peoples attention spans, CZcams Shorts, Instagram Reels, Facebook Reels.. they’re all the same 😭 edit: anyone says “well if tiktoks didn’t exist these wouldn’t either” CZcams was guaranteed to have Short form content and also if Vine and Musically didn’t exist neither would Tiktok, your point is flawed, if you hate the “origin” of brain rot, blame Vine
Exactly! These sheeple need to open their brains and realize tiktok is only "bad" because they don't understand it and they only see the bad side of it. Like every single platform has a "bad side".
yea but all those things were inspired by tiktok and its popularity. not saying theyre not bad, but if it werent for tiktok, those features probably wouldntve been implemented.
@@Hallunixating guarantee, at some point, short form chontent would have made it to these platforms, regardless of tiktok. Shoot, it was a thing during vine, and musicaly. Way before tiktok. Blaming tiktok does nothing 🤷♂️
Most other platforms (ignoring kick) have moderation and standards. You won't get away with the criminal shit tiktokers do for views. Also they have age requirements for making content so that gets rid of so many pathetic clueless teens who think their "harmless pranks" are just content for views.
"I love it more than Garfield loves lasagne." Dude's voice actually sounds like Garfield, a bit, kinda... like I reckon he could do a crazy good impression!
@@Randommangorar Was it really tho? People really be spinning in circles without realizing, and this is coming from someone who grew up on MLG and YTP brainrot
@@randomstormtrooper3345 I grew up and still watch YTP and trust me, it's miles better than tiktok and actually involves a good community and passion put into the random humor.
real honest, everyone needs to open a book (or comics/bandes dessinées if you're too visual) this shit heals the brain, just have to find what each of us likes
I get what you're saying, but TikTok isn't just free speech. It's a psychological weapon created by a known enemy of the West, while their domestic version is a completely different product. No conflict for me, good riddance.
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"tiktok is gone! we're saved!"
"oh I wouldn't say saved, more like under new management."
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From the CCP to the US government. Its essentially being free of your cruel stepfather only to be brought back to your abusive father’s house.
I understood that reference
@@lawrencetalbot8346 yup
this is what i don't get... Tik Tok is not getting banned. At absolute worst, somebody else will just make a clone that does the exact same thing. Most likely it will just get sold and no one will even notice a difference. The thing is a cash cow lol it ain't going ANYWHERE. Everyone calling it a ban is just so weird. There was never talk about banning it. Just getting ownership out of China. Whether or not that's morally right is a different issue but it's not getting banned as of right now.
TikTok being banned is every VPN’s favorite fever dream
Actually not. For whom youre going to create content? For Indians?
@@bloodygekkon5048 no everyone will use vpns to make it look like they're in asia so they can use tiktok
@@bloodygekkon5048 tiktok is banned in india 💀
well like... all places that arent america, like europe lmao. Also other americans@@bloodygekkon5048 though ofc itd be a smaller community than it is now
@@bloodygekkon5048 tf are u saying
"I disagree with what you say, but for your right to say it...I will fight to the death"
Umm john lock ?
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@@Seth_the_frogVoltaire, but close enough
Exactly! We should be able to say the hard r n-word freely. It’s my god given right /j
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CZcams HQ is twiddling their fingers in a maniacal manner right now
Didn't ask. My content is far superior and has more value than anything this youtuber has ever produced so get over it!!
Everybody will be flooding to YT shorts and then we will get even more brain rot.
Yt shorts is trash lol IG reels are wayyyyy funnier
@@Skyphideyet the comments are atrocious
@@Skyphide soo… you like seeing people almost nude and other people dying
If TikTok does get banned you know damn well the god awful brain rot is gonna just take over the algorithm
already is
yt shorts has more brain rot than tiktok
you tube is the brain rot central wdym💀
@@shoooon nah barely people use yt anymore its all about tiktok now
@@vasik2919not really
The funny part to me is that TikTok used to be Musically, which was a successor to Vine, but the current atmosphere is absolutely nothing like what Vine was, and I don't think we'll ever be getting another Vine app.
Be real man. Vine was a fun format for the time but if it was around today nobody would use it.
@@zhuzhu_petas proven by apps like byte being irrelevant
@@zhuzhu_pet i disagree
@@r3yel k. That’s fine
I feel as if millions of voices cried out in terror, then suddenly lost interest
A STAR WARS REFERENCE!?!
Accurate,tiktok attention span
That's so good, something far more civilized
@@jdjones7855He's talking about attention span, dummy 🤦
A more accurate quote would be "This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
They never banned Temu and that is a bigger threat because they have been reported for stealing credit card info, yet no ban for it
Correct me if im wrong but is the reason they wont ban temu cause that makes them more money?
They'll get to it, I hope. I hate that people are stupid enough to buy stuff off there, but that's consumerism for you.
It’s true, I had fraud on my card making me go $-498 into debt that I had to pay back. So you know lmao
They've been closing some of the loopholes that lets them ship in all their goods basically untaxed. Which it should've been for noncommercial uses anyways, and that loophole gets filled..
agreed. if tiktok is being banned then they should add temu to the list or not ban it at all.
I think a big part of the issue is that through Tik Tok people can get direct testimonies from people; like the people in gaza, the Congo or the student protesters. They use mainly tik tok to spread awareness and seems to be the most friendly app algorithm wise for them. Without Tik Tok they wouldn't get the attention they deserve. Regulations should absolutely happen but the brainrot I see on CZcams shorts compared to Tik Tok is like nightmarish, sending kids to youtube shorts seems like absolute hell. Still, the app needs to change but so does CZcams and Instagram and specially Facebook and X
Hard to trust a 30 second clip of testimony from people at war. Or protestors who are largely clueless and in a giant echo chamber.
Good point on CZcams shorts, though. All those people will just flock there.
The issue is that it's even easier to spread astroturfed propaganda than grassroots awareness. In 2016 Russia had a huge propaganda campaign to influence the US election, and that was on social media they don't even own. China having control over the TikTok algorithm means they can make millions of Americans believe whatever viral disinformation China wants them to believe.
I am clean. I have never downloaded tiktok, and now I never will.
you think tiktok is the only thing stealing your info? lol?
@@ihavenoideaonanything im just saying i havent had that particular flavor of brainrot. Every major company in the world probably knows me better than i do, but my brain is slightly more intact.
For the love of god, stay that way. I've been trapped in this hell hole for years. T_T
In all seriousness, TikTok isn't all that bad but it can be addicting, especially for someone like me who has ADHD as is
@@MrWolthe superiority complex of people who say “I never downloaded tiktok” is actually insane
@@zhuzhu_pet bro its not that deep. I made a joke about how i never downloaded an app.
"Hell ya! TikTok is gone! Our privacy is safe!"
The US Government: "About that."
It’s not about the privacy goofy, the app just fucking sucks
Oh I know its not safe, its just not going to be with China. I don't mind nearly as much about it being, literally anywhere else.
I wouldn’t say “saved”, more like under new management…
“Oh i wouldnt say safe, More like under new management.”
at&t leaked 70m customers info but we're focused on tiktok and privacy.
now the only source of brain rot is youtube shorts how will the 5 year olds ever recover
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ฉันจะสมัครรับข้อมูลใครก็ตามที่สมัครรับข้อมูลฉันและชอบความคิดเห็นนี้…..😮
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भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
Instagram
Abrakheim.
Exactly 💯
I think the perception that Tik Tok houses bad opinions or trends unique to that platform is wildly incorrect. There are the same crazy people on X or Facebook and they’re not being banned. Plenty of folks thought vine would decimate our attention span. Now I’m regularly watching 45 minutes from those same creators. I’ve never seen those trends mentioned, but I have learned about a lot of great small businesses and musicians.
Yeah seeing the perception of TikTok is wild to me. I’ve learned so much from it, yeah I’ve been on it for awhile so my algorithm is pretty good but still. Every platform has brain rot and some bad apples.
The difference is that tiktok makes viralibility more accessible and pushes harmful content more strongly.
The few times I've used tiktok, no matter what kind of content I watch or how silly/harmless it is, it always starts pushing me into the anti-vax, alt-right, conspiracy theorist pipeline. Someone looking for content about healthy eating on another platform is far less likely to come across all this "buy my supplements everything else is poison" crap. People live streaming gacha-style scams is far less common on other platforms. There are far, far more "trends" that sexualize and endanger children on tiktok than anywhere else.
No, this content isn't exclusive to tiktok (not even counting reels/shorts, since those only arose due to tiktok and tend to have reposted tiktoks)- but it is so much easier to find and continuously consume that content on tiktok than anywhere else.
Thank you for this! I was able to travel the world and experience other cultures in a bite-sized wholesome manner. It’s typically the fearmongers who have never used the platform who have no idea of how beneficial the app has been in fostering conversation and collaboration across cultures. Then again, lobbyists and lawmakers hate seeing money go into foreign pockets & that intel from alt sources is not regulated scares them 🤷 🦅
@christian_dg4948 Eh, while you can pretty easily hand tailor your experience on the platform since their algorithm is pretty good if you consciously manipulate it, the vast majority of popular content on the platform is mind-numbingly shitty low effort trash. It's got some diamonds in the rough, but having to sift through sewage-tier content to get some half decent stuff shown to me consistently just isn't worth it, and doesn't eliminate the garbage being shown to me outside of the platform. Vine died and the content culture never found a new home(which sucks cause it was primarily bangers), and I'm hoping the same happens to tiktok.
I don't like tiktok, but I think Facebook has a lot of "brain rot" if not more than tiktok
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied -- chains us all, irrevocably."
-- Captain Jean-Luc Picard
And so it begins.....
lol breaking out the epic quotes to save TikTok
@@kevinjenkins6986 It's not about saving TikTok. It's about censorship and government control over social media.
@@kevinjenkins6986 i really don't like TikTok but the point still stands
Its worth mentioning this ban is motivated by US politicians funded by Israeli government trying to curtail speech that is critical of Israel's brazen genocide in Gaza. The US can't control Tiktok the away they can for Facebook and other social media. So they are trying to ban tiktok because a lot of accounts on the app report news about the genocide.
If this ever put into action, be prepared for CZcams Shorts and Instagram Reels to be more Brainrotting
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भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
W OR L TIKTOK BAN???
COMMENT = W
LIKE = L
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ฉันจะสมัครรับข้อมูลใครก็ตามที่สมัครรับข้อมูลฉันและชอบความคิดเห็นนี้…..😮
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a twin girl 😘
Agreeed.
Skibidi toliet got so powerful the government had to shut it down
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भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
thats on youtube shorts but I get what your saying
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ฉันจะสมัครรับข้อมูลใครก็ตามที่สมัครรับข้อมูลฉันและชอบความคิดเห็นนี้…..😮
Isn't skibidi toilet CZcams tho?
Nothing happened to it
I'm a teacher and tutor. One of my students who's about 13 asked what JJK is when another student asked me about it. I said it's a show and he genuinely scoffed, because, and I quote, "why would I sit down for 20 minutes? That's so boring."
That was the moment I had to shake my fist at clouds.
Nah , you won
I bet it's the same kid who'll spend hours doing nothing but mindlessly scroll through their tiktok page and then wonder why their grades are so low
Wasn’t it the case since forever?
Yeah im sure that is something that happened 😂
Why didnt you just pull up those 60 second explenation videos from tik tok or yt shprts?
If TikTok didn't want to be banned, they shouldn't have harvested so much user data that even Facebook looks modest in comparison.
The whole issue the government has is that they aren’t making any money off of selling our data anymore, not that it is being collected. Otherwise they would pass data protection/privacy laws
They've already passed laws that say that the company's that you give your data to can do whatever they want with it
@@khiobi1687What law is that?
Ebay is gonna pop up big with phones installed with tiktok
Nah, VPN’s exist.
@@4circle865 ah yes, the same generation that doesn't even know about adblock, will use a vpn..
@@4circle865 the average TikTok user is too tech-illiterate to sideload an app (cant even do it on an iphone) and use a vpn
@@dcd3lt4I refuse to believe anyone is unable to use a vpn. It is so brain numbingly simple
Apks?
i do hate how they can just lump 7 very different things to the same bill. also hate how they can just name a bill what ever. like the "kids online safety act" and it has nothing to do with kids online safety.
Didn't ask. My content is far superior and has more value than anything this youtuber has ever produced so get over it!
Didn't ask. My content is far superior and has more value than anything this youtuber has ever produced so get over it!..
Seriously, like, if you want kids online safety, do something about Roblox and the neverending amount of Pedophiles.
I cannot believe they named it that. They need to be targeting CZcams and the awful content farms that periodically show up on the platform if they really care about kids.
Or the "inflation reduction act" which in fact increases inflation
The problem I have with tiktok is the content they prioritize pushing. Lots of negative mental health content gets pushed on people, even if they just created their account or are using a guest account. Meanwhile tiktok is actually banned in China and the app that they have bars any videos that glorify mental health issues.
lol the TikTokers are going to have to deal with Instagram reels and the comments 😂
They wont last a day
people say "they won't last on instagram or youtube shorts", but like no one is talking about how they'll be migrating to those sites and changing the landscape, the entire algorithm. Brainrot content will most likely skyrocket in those sites, changing everything as creators will seek to compete to stay relevant on the algorithm. Creators are going to have to either keep what they're doing now, or adapt to the changing landscape of CZcams and Instagram. It's exactly what happened to Yahoo Answer users migrating to Quora, and Twitter moving to Instagram and Tumblr.
As a man who hates tik tok I hate how it took a social media to get both Democrats and Republicans unanomusly do something while letting other problems in the United States be put on the back burner.
Yes, as an American I also hate how Republicans vote NO on every issue except this one. I also hate taking away women's rights and the Jan 6th insurrection.
Funny cuz yur on youtube which is the same thing but worse.
@@ratskraad5890 youtube is NOT worse than tiktok.
@@ratskraad5890 now thats a funny joke
@@dragonkeeper0578 Nobody is talking about this but that’s been China’s plan. Sow division in their biggest enemy, the US.
Consider for a moment that they could increase privacy rights instead.
They don’t do that because they WANT that power.
Plenty of rich American guys salivating to own the means of "TikTok" production, so suddenly a bill passes forcing TikTok to sell to an approved investor? 😂
Yes, this is def a red herring
Because Tik tok is owned by bytdance (a Chinese company) whatever the CCP asks for in terms of data is legally required for bytedance to give them.
@@Ben-M112 and CZcams is an American country,that is why almost all my political comments get dëleted.
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts
"No one steals taxpayers data but us"
I can see Vine making a comeback filling the space that Tik-Tok once occupied.
CZcams owns Vine Intellectual Property.
It wont
Well it just be the same content then
@@danishbutter1847 no they dont vine been gone over 10 yrs ago
hear me out, someone help me make “Leaf”
People are also saying "why don't we just buy TikTok" and forgetting how the owners have to actually agree to it first lmao
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a twin girl 😘
Ya and how America only accounts for 10 percent of there users, I don't think they will sell.
@@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 you are two people?
@@damintten The United States is more than 50% of TikTok’s users my guy.
And the owner is the Chinese government.
7:20 oh no. Congress has said that “this is a plan to make tik tok better. Tic…tac…toe…a WINNER” they won’t say it’s a ban.
By better, they mean getting a piece of the pie. 10% for the Big Guy.
It's all called "anti free speech disorder" Nicknamed any child into an soulless freak with tyrant's cyber blood
I genuinely want it gone. I'm not lying when I say Tiktok is full of P DO PILES. I've been trolling with some weirdos who want to excuse grooming with their age of consent shenanigans and how it used to be norm back in the days, and I responded like "well surprise surprise, they're still kids 💀"
They don't take that fact very well
Personally I think people have been stealing cars before TikTok
No way
Whats the problem? Filthy Frank predicted this in 2016 with his Facebook video so why are people surprised?
The hilarity of tik tok being the ad that played after the video ended, is simply delicious
Misuse of comma 🫵
@@yungtux8770Don't translate...
भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्ग मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु..
.. ..... Enejjeehhehs
@@yungtux8770I’m, sorry but, one, can, never, misuse,,,,, a, comma yeah
@@yungtux8770not the punctuation police too🚨🚨😂😂😂😂
@@yungtux8770dude nobody gives a shit 😂
"Id rather sell my data to good ol American Instagram servers than Chinese servers". In the end, you data is still getting sold to someone 😔
Yeah but america can't use most of that data except in subtle ways. Chinese government doesn't have any restraint at all.
@SirBladewind You make a good point
Damnn, so anyways TikTok bye bye
@@SirBladewindwhat do you even mean by that
The US can't ask Facebook for literally all data, that's unconstitutional. But China can ask TikTok for everything, and they'd have to.
Its crazy to think I started using TikTok and now I think Charlie's videos are slow and started watching them at 1.5x
All this is going to do is make instagram reel’s significantly more popular lmao
which is so much worse
@@nentai5859 It's the same crap. So far YT shorts is the best and that's saying a lot.
we dont want that
Propganda is going to spread
literally the point, us tryna get the chinese app banned so their own apps get more active
Large data brokers (who have extremely detailed profiles on you), are very much not against selling your data directly to China, this legislation pretty much does nothing.
Nuh uh
@@Visi0nss ok what does it do?
Yep. And if TikTok divests to a US company, they'll just continue doing the same thing but with different goals.
In fact I trust China more than I trust our own government and corporations at this point. China just wants to make our kids stupid so they can pull ahead. DC, Silicon Valley and the big CEOs want far worse.
It does something. It stops people from being brain rotted zombies who base their lives on a TikTok trend.
It all goes back to china, but it’s great to see such a brainrot platform go down.
I don't mind if Tic Tok gets banned
As a person who hates tik tok, I have a bad feeling about this.
As much as I hate TikTok, I can't deny that this could set a fairly dangerous precedent for social media apps. Brainrot will always exist, and if TikTok gets banned, creators will just migrate to CZcams shorts, similarly how Yahoo Answers shut down and caused the people posting there to move to Quora.
Quora needs putting down bad bro 🤣
Yep. And what do people think Republicans, who are in the middle of massive semi-religious censorship movement, are going to do with this precedent?
I notice CZcamsrs are more logical than Tiktokers so I doubt we will let it brain rot hard because it would most likely get shut down by just pure common sense lol.
Except it’s owned by an enemy of the United States to create massive amounts of propaganda and harvest data illegally
@@deathlord3991Look at youtube shorts.
I despise TikTok and will never use it. However, when the government starts banning things like TikTok when does it stop. They could use the same logic for CZcams as well. Parents need to step up and be parents and make sure they know what their kids are doing online and stop making the government do it for them
It stops when the app is American
They can’t use the same logic for CZcams because it’s not owned by our enemies.
This. The US government can coerce/extort/force American companies to take down things or "misinformation" they don't like. They can't do that with a foreign company. Tell me, which app have people been using to expose what's been going on in Gaza, which makes the US look very bad...?
@@sadlennie9320 the logic hurt my little American DNA cell
Exactly! Kids should not even have a damn smartphone until atleast 16. My 14 year old brotherhas a flip phone which he is grateful for. And now he is one of the only kids in his school that actually have intelligence😂💀💀
This is not fair. I run a business on TikTok. Now me, including a bunch of other people who grew their business on TikTok are going to have to go to a 9 to 5
I’m wayyyy late to the game but I’m enjoying your YT channel and Twitch as well. I see why u have so many fans. Thanx brother and keep it up!
I’ve been conflicted about this the whole time for the same reasons
I hate TikTok with a passion, but I think society alone should be the judge of which platforms live and die rather than out of touch 60-80 year olds who post “how to open pdf” as a Facebook status
Didn't ask. My content is far superior and has more value than anything this youtuber has ever produced so get over it!
@@PWRGEUTTP No one asked
The impetus for this comes from 30-somethings with the Department of Homeland Security being uncomfortable with the idea of 170 million Americans being broadcast the truth according to the CCP. It's being forced to divest because the Chinese government has used it as a platform to disseminate propaganda and misinformation to American citizens.
@@PWRGEUTTP Oh shut the fuck up, bot.
@@CircusFoxxoThank you! I’m surprised people don’t know this.
Now imagine if the government put all this energy towards issues like unaffordable healthcare, groceries, rent, inadequate education, wage stagnation, immigration, mental health crisis, etc. 'Ya know, stuff that matters.
Didn't ask. My content is far superior and has more value than anything this youtuber has ever produced so get over it!.
Nah ban guns they are scary 😨
but have you considered that "china bad"
naw thats not happening
I mean fearing a foreign adversary harvesting all of your data seems pretty legitimate
This bill is about a lot more than just tik tok
Help those who are homeless and poor and actually help improve America and its citizens ❌
Ban TikTok ✅
It’s not like they aren’t trying to pass laws to help homeless and poors, but lots of bills targetting to help poor people were rejected by Americans, mostly conservatives
@@pnoodl3s775 the laws be like 100 dollars to homeless/infarstructure 10 trillion to israel and ukraine.
You can't have a functioning society without poor people. You have to have poor and rich. And almost all homeless people are homeless because they're drug addicts or alcoholics and would rather pay for their addiction than bills. That's their own fault.
@@breadogi7118 if $100 for the poors can’t even be passed then there’s no point trying for anything more. Idgaf about what happens with Israel, it’s whataboutism. I’d love for us to reduce military spending for education and healthcare but that ain’t happening, with any president
@@1DeathScythe36people who think like you are a cancer on humanity. Literally. You'd rather offer justifications instead of help (hurdur someone has to suffer so i can make money off of them cause i value money over humanity) Yeah there's drug abuse and alcoholics rampant in the homeless however instead of, idk, offer any sort of compassion, you'd focus on the fact they made shitty choices and "deserve" what they got. Just why are humans like this?
WW1: Wrong Turn
WW2: Rejected form Art School
WW3: TikTok was banned
You can't pay attention in class or finish your homework on time. Your goofy ass ain't starting WWIII.
Underrated
Wrong turn 😂😂 took me a second for it to hit me. but that's an amazing way of summing up how ww1 started.
@@GenuinelyHorriblePerson can someone explain I’m just a stupid Native American
@@highcapnativeheir to the throne was in open top car, got shot by serbian nationalist, people took it as an excuse to start WWI which would have happened anyways, this was just the catalyst
People getting concerned about data being collected haven't read a single one of the terms and conditions of facebook, twitter, microsoft or google, or even looked into where that goes.
Literally everything's on the Internet lol
Everything thing collects now, with Google being one of the worse
Those are American companies, thus it's ok.
I mean do you want the enemies of America to have your data?? That’s fucking if you do
But it does not go to china
Like most things, the problem isn't the thing in question, it's the people using it.
" find joy and be inspired.... also have every single keystroke you've made since you downloaded the app analyzed and saved to a server, dont worry we promise not to do anything with this information worth trillions of dollars"
Dude whenever I go on CZcams shorts tiktok reels etc I just start scrolling and a few brainless minutes or seconds later I’m like wtf am I doing and I stop 😭 it’s actually so bad the way it’s set up for you to not want to leave the apps.
What about the students being arrested on universities for just occupying space? 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 they had to barricade the police out of the school.
@@supervillainnova8352 bro what are you talking about? 😂 that has nothing to do with Tik Tok. WTH! Lmao
But yeah same here zcouchGD I’m always ashamed whenever I go past a certain amount of videos. I’m like what the fuck am I doing here. 😂
That’s exactly how it’s set up. To be addicting as possible. I personally think we should have a global ban on videos below 1 min or maybe more. It really fucks up your brain
@@supervillainnova8352yes let it be known the reason for the tiktok ban is to prevent people from seeing these events unfold. The gov literally said theyre either banning it or they can sell tiktok to meta. Ppl have no idea the real purpose behind this ban, which was attached onto a foreign aid package to israel !!!
Honestly, I would be happy about this if I didn’t know how many small businesses were kickstarted by TikTok. My own family members have been able to get traction on their business because of TikTok and let’s be real Instagram is just not good for that.
Ban that china spyware
Exactly, I don’t think congress understands how vital something like TikTok is to small businesses. I’ve actually found several great businesses in my state thanks to it. I’ve even bought books from several authors. It’s just sad that US companies fail to do something better than a foreign app, which should be the other way around.
Theres thousands of ways to get your business out there just be creative
@@Dirty-Leprechaun but the thing is its harder on other platforms to get traction, Instagram is horrible for that, and X is horrible as well. There are no other apps that actually put your work out there. I'm a small business and Instagram has gotten me no traction while TikTok has helped me get some people interested.
@@outdatedbear6716 again just gotta be creative and try new things tik tok has gotta go
The ad I saw before this video was a TikTok ad 💀
I love the tik tok add in the sub screen
I'm one of the people in my age group that never got into tiktok, even an old coworker of mine was suprised I never really used tiktok and said he would spend up to 8 HOURS straight on it, but i couldn't say anything as I'm literally on my phone/videogames as much lol
Bruh thank god I only watch on IG Reels 😇
True, all that time I'm usually reading or playing games with friends.
I really dislike short form content
I think gaming and watching TV shows are a bit hit different to tiktok. Shows and games at least engage the brain while I think tiktok has the effect of putting people on auto pilot which isn't great.
I've never liked tiktok, and have never installed it lmao
I tried it out, quit right after a few scrolls
Feel like I’m living through some sort of moment in history
Mostly about government being so obsessed w social media
Technically we’re always living in a moment of history.
It's about freedom of information. Tik Tok is like hijacking the world establishment of American operating systems.
Not much more is needed than the current user-base to introduce their own device and circumvent everrything.
Expecting a total boycot of China electronics and software this year.
This is far from anything new. This is just yet another tech company that will be replaced by another.
This isn’t going to take away TikTok it’s going to make China sell the app to US stakeholders.
It’s pretty plain that China controls the app either partially or fully and amplifies discourse that makes US citizens more divided than ever on purpose and pushes destructive trends. If US stakeholders get it, it will likely change and be more like how reels is, which is just regular amounts of divisive and stupid and keeps them accountable for the ways app affects us whereas we can’t really sue or punish a Chinese company operating in China.
*citizens are obsessed with social media
1:42 i like how the biggest person in the picture is holding the sign about tiktok growing their business 😂
i think people are forgetting that youtube shorts exists
I know, it’s the same thing
@@jeremys3951 personal opinion I think the content on tiktok is better. on CZcams shorts it's nearly all made by channels with 50k+ subscribers and so tik tok content just feels more, human
@@jeremys3951it’s arguably worse
That was CZcams’s idea, yet i dont like yt shorts
@@stavkous4963 wdym by youtubes idea l
Ironic how much censorship is brought up in regards to banning the app, yet the app has the highest amount of word censorship I've ever seen, which is where creation of infamous terms like "un-alive" and "neurospicy" came into popular usage
This.
This is like the biggest non-argument ever, and especially ironic, when you’re mentioning it on a platform that has also experienced multiple phases in which certain words were deemed not advertiser friendly. I vividly remember when some CZcamsrs were using ‘game-ended’ and CZcamsrs today still need to censor their curses. Tiktok is not the pioneer of restricting or punishing content that contains strong vocabulary, and to think so is really really funny.
@heyitskukii there's "advertiser-friendly"/"child-safe" censorship, and there's tiktok-level censorship where you can't say anything relating to being LGBTQIA+ or neurodivergent(beyond ADD/ADHD) because words like "autistic" and "lesbian" are censored and shadowbanned (e.g. why some people say "acoustic" or "tism/tistic" instead of autistic)
Right !
@@Ariaea11 the term acoustic was literally a meme in one of the trends on the app just because of how similar it sounds. In terms of shadowbanning, I've seen numerous neuro divergent and lesbian creators on the app, have you used it or are you judging from an outside perspective?
I don't think you understand how much Garfield likes lasagna mister
Real
You are not immune
garfield is arguably the worst cartoon character ever
@@gvs6462 Have you forgotten about Caillou or Scrappy Doo or the new "Velma"????
As a lego stopmotion shorts creator I guess it would help me, but I totally understand your point, freedom is Garfields lasagna
Fun fact: In the time it takes to watch this video (without pausing), a TikTok kid will have watched through around 20-25 short videos
I swear I've been seeing headlines about them signing this and TikTok getting banned every other week for the past year.
I feel you but this time it’s the real deal if TikTok do t get sold/bought by an American company within 9 month it’s over
Didn't ask. My content is far superior and has more value than anything this youtuber has ever produced so get over it!
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आशासे भवतः दिवसः उत्तमः अस्ति :)
It's because they are banning it so people cannot get access to news about the genocide against Palestinians. That's why you are all of a sudden seeing headlines; it's because in recent months people on TikTok have been making videos on what is actually happening over there.
@@Zaay446hope you do too :)
Finally, my friends will listen to my stories without subway surfers
CZcams shorts:
😭😭😭
Instagram reels, Facebook reels, and yt shorts...btw they have worse fyp videos than tiktok 😂
@@devoursilentyour defense its irrelevant. its specifically being canceled because its a chinese owned company and the u.s government knows it’s a security risk. not about what is being produced on the platform😭 like do you not pay attention
@@devoursilent TikTok was one of the prime driving force of that garbage content though, well rather Vine was the start, but TikTok took up the mantle and managed to evolve it into something much worse. Then everyone else thought they had to do it too.
Tbh I only downloaded TikTok because people keep sending me them
“God dammit and god bless” 🤣
The fact that this ban only applies to TikTok and yet Wish, AliExpress, Shein and Temu are still allowed who are doing the same thing with our data says to me that there’s a different underlying reason that the government is banning it. It’s not just China getting our data, it’s something else.
As someone who stays far away from TikTok, I have no way of knowing what that reason really is, but I agree that it’s definitely an attack on personal freedom.
Ya I seriously have a problem with Shien, literally just China dumping their garbage on us.
It’s because it’s literally rotting the minds of kids in the country.
Exactly. Not to mention, even if we banned all those Chinese sites, American companies sell our data to grey market data brokers and China could easily get it from them. No, this is 100% a cash grab for the big American social media magnates and attack on free speech, particularly the already disenfranchised younger generations
who let you cook
It doesn't matter. The government banned lawn darts, Four Loko, Juul and a million other things too. It's still a commerce issue and not a speech issue.
The only thing I learned is that they can lump like 17 bills together and basically force you to sign it because the of optics.
good ol logrolling bills
Back before most of us were even born a politician slipped in a trivial bill to see if his colleagues actually read what they're passing.
They don't.
I can tell that you flunked AP Government and Politics.
@@rawhidelamp no if a bill with multiple things is passed, the president either signs the bill or vetoes the bill they cannot choose items in the bill that they like or dislike. Governors on other hand, you have the ability to do so but the president does not.
Not true, there were 4 separate bills. 3 of them were foreign aid and this was the fourth one.
as someone who doesnt use tiktok i couldnt care less
We celebrate the banishment of tiktok with confetti 🎉
my friend, when her phone turned off you could see tiktok burned into her screen…when it was on it was still there.
Crazy that this is more important to congressmen than issues that effect the day to day lives of the Average American
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a twin girl 😘
tik tok is a containment site for you zoomies, now you will spread and ruin everything else as always
Congressmen when housing prices are spiking: 🙈🙈
@@capital_of_texasmore like 🤑🤑🤑
Don't translate...
भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
Glad to see Democrats and Republicans could agree on something for once. Now if they could put this much energy towards something that actually mattered that'd be great
i doubt it because it's all "different people GOOD!" and "different people BAD!!"
Yeah but that wishful hoping.
Imagine if this energy went towards after school programs or access to clean water
Well... the problem with the ban is that it sneaks in a bunch of other garbage with it. Sending tons of mulla overseas.
😅 i disagree i believe this is just texbook censorship the us is trying to force bargaining chips as well
Very in support of this, I hope similar things happen to non educational CZcams shorts and reels, and other brain rot content like cocomelon
If the app is such a security risk that government officials can’t even have it installed on any device, I feel like that speaks volumes about why it’s getting banned.
Who exactly would be an "approved buyer" and how could anyone trust the vetting process if there even is one?
Israel is the only 'approved buyer' in the US government's eyes. Its all a scheme to continue the ethnocide of the Palestinian people. This ban is all AIPAC money.
The bill states that it would be any company not within China, Russia, Iran, or North Korea. So approved just simply means that its country of origin can’t be one of the four mentioned.
US company.
Someone who can be held accountable by our laws and statues if they do shady stuff/allow illegal content on the app.
Disregarding the privacy and data mining, this is about being able to enforce our laws when the company hosts genuinely damaging content that has farther reaching consequences for our populace (like trends that result in injury or death/breaking laws/harming others for clout).
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger
Sounds like soft censorship
This happened with Chelsea football club during The Ukraine Invasion as their owner was Russian.
The UK Government forced him to sell the club and it was brought by an American owner
I am a teacher and while I have seen the detrimental impact TikTok has had on students, I see this as primarily a parenting issue where kids have unregulated access to the internet. Before TikTok, when I was in middle school and high school, kids were still recording themselves doing dangerous things online (like setting themselves on fire and snorting things). Kids just posted it to other sites or shared it through texts instead.
Additionally, our data is constantly being used and sold through U.S. companies as well, and the amount of misinformation that is shared on other social media sites is comparable.
Unfortunately, while TikTok is full of garbage, it also gives users the ability to share first-hand experiences that other platforms don't allow (like first-hand accounts of things happening in Gaza right now), and I think that's the real reason behind the ban. There has been a lot of social unrest as average people become more connected and find power in bettering their community by opposing current systems of power.
If our government actually cared about our data, they would regulate other social media sites more. If they cared about children, they wouldn't be dissolving public schools and promoting unregulated access to firearms. If they cared about mental health, they would make therapy more readily available. I seriously doubt this ban is due to user data concerns.
Yes we know Republicans generally don't care about that helping kids or Americans. But that doesn't mean this isn't a great thing!!
Also don't lie and say tiktok isn't influencing kids to destroy bathrooms or steal Kias. Don't be a lair
it's probably because they don't want our biggest adversary in economics having something more successful than anything owned by the us
@@Lawrence_Zhou no
It's 100% because of Gaza like you said. Look at how many pro Israel groups are lobbying congress to ban Tik Tok. Actually insane.
We now know that Charlie's sona would be an eagle.
Missed opportunity to say "I love Freedom even more than Eren Yeager"
Sadly, this is the fastest I've seen a bill go through congress and signed by the President. There's hundreds of actually pressing matters that could've been passed in place of this : /
Because Israel
It's because of ukraine getting demolished by russia
It's cuz of that damn phone you always on
@@gapsule2326 It's 100% because of Israel. They're upset that young people get news from Tik Tok that exposed all of the war crimes they are currently Committing. This is the only reason.
It will just be replaced by an identical service under a different name. Social media will never die so long as the public at large feeds it our time and attention.
Yeah first it was Vine, then it was musically, and now it Tiktok. Same shit, different name
@@antimatter3084 tf is musically?
An identical service able to be regulated by US citizens. Still a win.
Yes, but it will be controlled and filtered by US moneyed interests. Censorship rarely ever works out in beneficial ways.
This is only happening because they support the Gaza genocide and the IDF soldiers keep posting war crimes.
@@tonedeaftachankagaming457 A social media service regulated by its citizens is a fantasy story. A new service will just be another corporate data harvesting machine like Tiktok but served up by the nation that claims moral superiority while having no right to do so.
This is one of the biggest blessings i ever received 🙏🏽
dude it’s been 8 years and we’re STILL talking about finger family
What’s really confusing is that people see this as a good thing because kids are gonna go outside now. No they are not they are going to be on CZcams. I don’t understand why some people think that CZcams doesn’t give people brain rot. Literally what people complain about tiktok other apps do. TikTok doesn’t have a magnet that sucks on to people. YOU can put your phone down. YOU can go outside and read books. Hell you can do both, you can like tiktok and read! Did people forget booktok exists. It’s messy but hey they are still books
Brain rot started on yt goofy, TikTok just sucks and we’re glad it’s gone
For real, people on tiktok are just gonna move to another platform.
the main problem with shit-tok was the fact that your data could/or have been sold to China, whereas in the other cases like YT shorts, your data is at least sold to somewhere else
Because it's generally not a good idea for a democracy to have one of its biggest social media platforms controlled by a DICTATORSHIP.
We should recognize there's not really a moral equivalence between the two. Especially when we know they use it to suppress info about genocide going within their borders and we know algorithms can be used to subtly influence people through subtle changes in the algorithm or by design.
"It's Tiktok's fault that I have addicted to it!"
Are we going to have bad lawyer commercials saying you could sue TikTok or something for the defects it caused in your child instead of the old “Mesothelioma” or asbestos ones?
"Has your child been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Tik Tok Disorder? You may be entitled to financial compensation."
I’m a lawyer, not a criminal
The ban isn’t about brain rot, it’s about geopolitical security risks.
@@n1njachikinno its about Israel and the youth's changing political worldviews
ADHD isnt bad tho. Its just something you learn to live with. Its not gonna kill you. We live in a fast gig economy so having short and constant need for productivity is a product of the environment not TikTok.
I am interested to see what happens after tik tok gets banned
I never actually thought this ban would go through tbh. Granted some of the previous bans were for government devices, but those should be expected. The banning of TikTok as a whole for everyone would’ve never been something I actually expected.
Chinese company talking about how Americans are losing their voice. What a wild time to be alive.
so true lol
Chinese have more freedom of speech than americans. In China you cant critsiz: Chinese government. If you do you get a fair trail and pay the fine/go to jail. In the US you cant criticize: the goverment, women, trannies, gay ppl, black ppl, brown ppl, the jews, elections, s*x education for children, fbi, war in the middle east, ukraine and the list go on. If you do you have no right for a fair trail, you get doxed by media, and lose job.
also the way TikTok said it made it sound only Americans use the app like oh if you shut us down billions of americans will lose their voice like why are they all of a sudden pretending America is the only country? if they leave it open for other countries we have VPNs now, Americans can easily just you know switch to EU and enter tiktok
This hurts even more for me
It's stationed in Singapore and predominantly ran by Singaporeans. China doesn't even allow tiktok on the mainland.
"Nobody spies on US citizens but us!" - the US Government.
Rather be spied on by the US government than the chinese government
@@liamvanderkolk5936 id rather be spied on by no one. Just install tails.
Yes, that is the idea.... I'm a big woke liberal, but still yes, that's what a government is. Edgelord nonsense!
@@liamvanderkolk5936and now all you will be fed is American propaganda and get censored information this isn’t a good thing
Yeah ? And how is your comment something to put up AGAINST that quote ? I would understand the point of your comment like 10 years ago , but if you haven't noticed Russia started a war in Ukraine and if Russia had a way to spy on American citizens , i dont think you or any other person in the country would be happy ! And you may ask - "What does Russia have to do with anything ? Tiktok is Chinese !" well maybe the fact that China is literally planning to attack Taiwan and maybe you would be aware of that information if you weren't getting your news from Tiktok , which bans any mention of Taiwan because Chinese government doesn't approve of it .
And even in the time of peace , why do you think Chinese would collect data about AMERICAN citizens ? Knowing that China is the closest ally to Russia , and i'm an immigrant from Russia btw , and let me tell you - Russia deems the US as a NUMBER ONE enemy of theirs . And so does China ! So when your enemy collects your data , believe me , its really NOT a good thing , and its insane that i even have to explain this to you...
Facebook and Instagram have ads about shit I've talked about in my living room... TikTok gives me thirst traps of Astarion and Shadowheart 😅
as if youtube itself doesn't have shady stuff on it
Charlie… tiktok isn’t the only thing killing peoples attention spans, CZcams Shorts, Instagram Reels, Facebook Reels.. they’re all the same 😭
edit: anyone says “well if tiktoks didn’t exist these wouldn’t either” CZcams was guaranteed to have Short form content and also if Vine and Musically didn’t exist neither would Tiktok, your point is flawed, if you hate the “origin” of brain rot, blame Vine
Exactly! These sheeple need to open their brains and realize tiktok is only "bad" because they don't understand it and they only see the bad side of it. Like every single platform has a "bad side".
yea but all those things were inspired by tiktok and its popularity. not saying theyre not bad, but if it werent for tiktok, those features probably wouldntve been implemented.
@@Hallunixating so if we’re going off of that, Vine and Musically are the real enemies, they started it all
@@Hallunixating guarantee, at some point, short form chontent would have made it to these platforms, regardless of tiktok. Shoot, it was a thing during vine, and musicaly. Way before tiktok. Blaming tiktok does nothing 🤷♂️
@@orlandoservin5492 i see your point, very fair
“Silence” yeah not like those 170 million people will just move to another platform.
Yeah right? It’s a ridiculous narrative to push
it’s easily the greatest algorithm for getting your voice out there. you can post essentially any kind of statement and get hundreds of views
@@evanb5401 that isnt a good thing, thats exactly why our nation has been so easily divided by memes and misinfo cause any idiot can influence a mass
Most other platforms (ignoring kick) have moderation and standards. You won't get away with the criminal shit tiktokers do for views. Also they have age requirements for making content so that gets rid of so many pathetic clueless teens who think their "harmless pranks" are just content for views.
Well there going to be all around less brain rot so w cope
Keeping my attention span longer than a cringy tiktok short became worthwhile, because now everyone can learn the right way
Insta/youtube lobbying goes hard
"I love it more than Garfield loves lasagne."
Dude's voice actually sounds like Garfield, a bit, kinda... like I reckon he could do a crazy good impression!
Real
Lasagna*
@@pnut3844able well, technically the correct spelling is in fact lasagne.
@@martinmlakar123laser beams
@@pnut3844ableit’s spelt weird aye
I hate the whole “attention span” thing like Vine didn’t exist.
Attention span has continuously been getting worse, we’re just now suddenly noticing.
At least vine was much better
@@Randommangorar Was it really tho? People really be spinning in circles without realizing, and this is coming from someone who grew up on MLG and YTP brainrot
It really wasnt. The only difference i see was nobody was throwing away their life away for a 10sec vid, every other day. @@Randommangorar
@@randomstormtrooper3345 I grew up and still watch YTP and trust me, it's miles better than tiktok and actually involves a good community and passion put into the random humor.
real honest, everyone needs to open a book (or comics/bandes dessinées if you're too visual)
this shit heals the brain, just have to find what each of us likes
I was on TikTok for quite a while. It’s been two years.
Since I left that shhet
It's important to note that bytedance, tiktoks parent company, has a CCP chapter in their company. This isn't some innocent little company
The confliction within me runs rampant.
Don't translate...
भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a twin girl 😘
@Vuuduu no thanks I'd rather die
I get what you're saying, but TikTok isn't just free speech. It's a psychological weapon created by a known enemy of the West, while their domestic version is a completely different product. No conflict for me, good riddance.
A thousand times this.