Responding to Jordan Peterson on Adam & Eve

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
  • #maklelan1973 ‪@JordanBPeterson‬

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  • @NielMalan
    @NielMalan Před 2 měsíci +190

    Jordan Peterson, the chef of word salads.

    • @Daniel-mw7pu
      @Daniel-mw7pu Před 2 měsíci +34

      Well, what do you mean by “chef”? Chef is French for chief. It means head, or master, or perhaps some kind of authority. But I think we need to see the operational function of when hierarchical systems of authority and power structures where the mastery of the craft and the bearer of knowledge is given decision making capability and agency over a particular domain wherein the epistemological implications are that transverse authorities are disregarded because as it is, there are already too many cooks in the kitchen.

    • @ChillAssTurtle
      @ChillAssTurtle Před 2 měsíci +15

      ​@@Daniel-mw7puwhat did you mean by french? Its not entirely obvious to me or anyone for that matter.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@Daniel-mw7puThe kitchen can handle lots and lots of cooks. It’s the broth that suffers from too many cooks.
      But I would call Pedosan the Cobb of wordsalads, not the chef.

    • @digitaljanus
      @digitaljanus Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@Daniel-mw7pu 👏🤌

    • @user-gk9lg5sp4y
      @user-gk9lg5sp4y Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@Daniel-mw7puWell played

  • @ArkadiBolschek
    @ArkadiBolschek Před 2 měsíci +99

    Gotta respect Peterson's commitment to looking like a Batman villain.

    • @ronaldflint681
      @ronaldflint681 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It wasn't that long ago that he provided the world (when it didn't ask) with commentary on said villain.

    • @marktinkey7433
      @marktinkey7433 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I just commented the same thing...haha

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 Před 2 měsíci +11

      BS.
      Dude looks like at least *four* different Batman Villains, cosplaying other Batman Villains. He's basically Scarface cosplaying Mad Hatter cosplaying Joker cosplaying Two Face.
      Was Crazy Quilt a Batman villain? If so, make it five Batman villains.
      Jorbo Porbo dresses like he was turned into Harley Quinn's Harley Quinn.

    • @EugeniaPortobello
      @EugeniaPortobello Před 2 měsíci +3

      hahahahaha

    • @4saken404
      @4saken404 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@lnsflare1 "Dude looks like at least four different Batman Villains..." lololOMG 😆🤣💀::ded::

  • @simonlegosson7082
    @simonlegosson7082 Před 2 měsíci +151

    Jordan Peterson isn’t a windbag, he’s a hurricanesack.

    • @clifb.3521
      @clifb.3521 Před 2 měsíci +4

      totally stealing that LOL

    • @BrentJohnson-ki7jy
      @BrentJohnson-ki7jy Před 2 měsíci +3

      A regular tornado-tote(bag)!

    • @johnnastrom9400
      @johnnastrom9400 Před 2 měsíci

      Why? Because he does not agree with you nutty left-wing viewpoints?

    • @simonlegosson7082
      @simonlegosson7082 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@johnnastrom9400 Because he rambles on for hours without actually making any real points.

    • @BrightonJames-pz8kv
      @BrightonJames-pz8kv Před 2 měsíci

      @@johnnastrom9400 Because he talks a load of codswallop with overemotional tropes.

  • @dahdahissimo
    @dahdahissimo Před 2 měsíci +68

    "The fruit was inedible." Literally the opposite of that. LITERALLY the OPPOSITE. Gen 6:3

  • @lnsflare1
    @lnsflare1 Před 2 měsíci +86

    "I like the idea that pride comes before a fall," says Muppet Two-Face, displaying his superhuman resistance to irony.

    • @bskec2177
      @bskec2177 Před 2 měsíci +13

      "I know the story doesn't have anything to do with this, but I like it as an idea, so I'm going to say it does, and then because I said it, people will believe it, and when enough people believe it, it will transmogrify into a sort of truth...."

    • @lisaboban
      @lisaboban Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@bskec2177 I came here to say this very thing.

    • @robertbrowne7880
      @robertbrowne7880 Před 2 měsíci +4

      All you have to do is resist it attaching to your metaphysical substrate.

    • @81caspen
      @81caspen Před 2 měsíci +3

      Well, you know, as long as JP *likes* it, well, man, that is real epistemological heft right there. His liking it. That’s grade-A evidence. How much fun it gives him.
      Ask him what theory unifying quantum mechanics with general relativity gives him a little chuckle. Let’s end the debate at last!

    • @andrewclough660
      @andrewclough660 Před 2 měsíci +2

      hahaha perfect mate

  • @archivist17
    @archivist17 Před 2 měsíci +120

    At least JP is now dressing in clown costume for accurate identification purposes.

    • @MCAPrince
      @MCAPrince Před 2 měsíci +11

      You mean he is channeling the archetype of the Jester

    • @thescoobymike
      @thescoobymike Před 2 měsíci +7

      As much as I hate him I kinda like the suit ngl lol

    • @pansepot1490
      @pansepot1490 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ⁠@@thescoobymike lol. I think the dots on his necktie are actually his face. Couldn’t magnify large enough to be sure though.
      However I agree. I always had a soft spot for unconventional styles of clothing and that’s the only thing I admire of Peterson. I think he said that a tailoring company approached him proposing him to wear their suits that they had designed for him. Idk if the same suits are also for sale to the public or it’s just a brand advertising.

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@thescoobymike His new suits are pretty hit and miss, but this is on the better end of that spectrum.

    • @ronaldflint681
      @ronaldflint681 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@thescoobymike Wonder how much of his ill-gotten, exorbitant income he spent on it.

  • @elliottmcfadden6261
    @elliottmcfadden6261 Před 2 měsíci +70

    The real original sin is that suit Peterson is wearing. 😜

    • @epochalypsemeow5732
      @epochalypsemeow5732 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Lol, I dunno. I’d have to go with his horrible Twitter suit for that one! 😂

    • @boboak9168
      @boboak9168 Před 2 měsíci +1

      A bit of pride showing through in his wardrobe? Ironic.

    • @booksquid856
      @booksquid856 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I love the suit! It makes me think of a Jane Austin film!

  • @andscifi
    @andscifi Před 2 měsíci +31

    Jordan Peterson "I like that idea". I suppose that's why you made it up.

    • @Andrew_Warden
      @Andrew_Warden Před 2 měsíci +2

      You beat me to this comment. He says it all right there with those four words.

  • @dylanmcgehee5749
    @dylanmcgehee5749 Před 2 měsíci +46

    That look @ 1:41 is the quintessential intellectual reaction to the majority of JP's rhetoric and nonsense.

    • @2023betterresearch
      @2023betterresearch Před 2 měsíci +3

      You miss it lol by pointing to 1:41. It's actually 1:39 and 1:40.

    • @j8000
      @j8000 Před 2 měsíci +1

      It's also the way laypeople react, unless they're posing as turbo-intellectuals.

  • @PhokenKuul
    @PhokenKuul Před 2 měsíci +15

    Jordan Peterson's fit for the day is Joker visits Smurf Village. The crossover no one wanted.

    • @jamesmcgarity2985
      @jamesmcgarity2985 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Your comment *literally* made me LOL! 😂 Awesome!

  • @RichardRoyster-ys8xw
    @RichardRoyster-ys8xw Před 2 měsíci +27

    Superficial and Sophomoric. 👏🏼 Perfect summary, sir.

  • @gregbuster4187
    @gregbuster4187 Před 2 měsíci +34

    Jordan Peterson enjoys hearing the sound of his own voice, regardless of whether the words he speaks are truthful or fanciful. (The majority of his opinions are the latter)

    • @EmperorofMu
      @EmperorofMu Před 2 měsíci +2

      In spite of the sickening sound of his voice and its tendency towards incoherence.

    • @bensalemi7783
      @bensalemi7783 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Peterson speaks truthful words in the same way that a stopped clock is right twice a day.

  • @PegasusB
    @PegasusB Před 2 měsíci +73

    2:01 "Men's pride motivates them to attempt to appear bigger than they are in the eyes of women". That just about sums up Jordan Peterson.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Good luck with that after Eve saw the serpent. You know the saying? Once you see a snake, you never go bake.

    • @veggiet2009
      @veggiet2009 Před 2 měsíci +10

      I thought this was a surprisingly self aware statement on Peterson's part, is he close to admitting that the patriarchy is an imperfect/sinful system??? 🤔
      Definitely not, but one can dream 😂

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci

      @@infiniti28160vanity is a human trait, no? Why would it be the trait of one of the 78 genders?

    • @marktinkey7433
      @marktinkey7433 Před 2 měsíci

      Because gay people don't exist and apparently never have.

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@infiniti28160 I would associate vanity with the vain, because it's not inherent to either gender or sex except in so much as the local social norms incentivize it.
      If you looked into a room full of women covered head to toe in black Burkas, would you say that they are inherently more or less prone to vanity than male Andrew Tate stan dressed like the Joker cosplaying Two-Face?

  • @seanalexandre5299
    @seanalexandre5299 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Peterson never ceases to amaze me. I've never heard anyone that can say absolutely nothing with so many words.

    • @boboak9168
      @boboak9168 Před 2 měsíci +1

      And such unwarranted confidence!

  • @maskedsaiyan1738
    @maskedsaiyan1738 Před 2 měsíci +44

    The Bible seems to mean whatever its readers want it to mean. It’s like a Rorschach test.

    • @Jd-808
      @Jd-808 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yep. Peterson’s doesn’t come out too well

    • @JopJio
      @JopJio Před 2 měsíci +1

      And every generation claims to have the perfect understanding in comparison to all other generations before

    • @toniacollinske2518
      @toniacollinske2518 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Well, really that's true of all literature

    • @PhokenKuul
      @PhokenKuul Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@toniacollinske2518 That's actually a really good point, however, most literature is recognized as fiction whereas the bible is, well, not, I guess.

    • @eeyoreofborg
      @eeyoreofborg Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes, but contrarily, it also never quite seems to say what people think it says.

  • @jerryhayes9497
    @jerryhayes9497 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Jordan Peterson has always been a clown 🤡 , and now he's dressing appropriately

  • @ThatEvilGnome
    @ThatEvilGnome Před 2 měsíci +12

    Wow, he's even dressing like a comic supervillain now.

  • @MarcosElMalo2
    @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci +21

    If the fruit was inedible, then what’s God’s problem? Why even bother with the prohibition? He might as well have said, “Don’t eat the sun.”

    • @bskec2177
      @bskec2177 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Those rocks on the ground, don't eat those either.
      Will they give me magic knowledge?
      No, they're just rocks. They'll break your teeth.

    • @ronaldflint681
      @ronaldflint681 Před 2 měsíci +1

      We can't expect an analysis by Peterson to actually reach such depths. His gig is tickling people's ears and collecting millions.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ronaldflint681He looks like a professional tickler. Junior Division.

    • @jm329
      @jm329 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Genesis 3:6 “When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. “

  • @nicholasbanton
    @nicholasbanton Před 2 měsíci +10

    Jordan Peterson is a man who speaks with such confidence. Like some kind of confidence man. Like some kind of conman, one might say.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci

      Until he gets weepy.

    • @ronaldflint681
      @ronaldflint681 Před 2 měsíci

      He's a sophist. Gets paid to sound wise while not actually having to know anything.

  • @jamesjarvis3486
    @jamesjarvis3486 Před 2 měsíci +49

    On the behalf of Canada I would like to apologize to the world for Jordan Peterson

    • @robertbrowne7880
      @robertbrowne7880 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I like to simplify it and blame Calgary.

    • @user-bw3du1cc8e
      @user-bw3du1cc8e Před 2 měsíci

      Apology not accepted!! At least, not without groveling and reparations.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Well, then do it, don’t say you’d like to do it. Apologize. Say you’re soorry.

    • @johnrichardson7629
      @johnrichardson7629 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That's okay. You also gave us Eugene Levy. I forgive you.

    • @RD-jc2eu
      @RD-jc2eu Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@johnrichardson7629 And John Candy...

  • @Zeett09
    @Zeett09 Před 2 měsíci +14

    That suit. I can’t take him serious.

  • @johnburn8031
    @johnburn8031 Před 2 měsíci +19

    I don't have enough salad dressing to consume Jordan's word salad!

    • @Cornelius135
      @Cornelius135 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That’s why he dressed so well for you in that suit

  • @scienceexplains302
    @scienceexplains302 Před 2 měsíci +6

    *Peterson seems very proud* of his argument. But pride in others is bad, right Jordan?

  • @damianabbate4423
    @damianabbate4423 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Thanks so much for this Dan! When i first saw Peterson talking about this, my spidey senses went off. But I couldn't take it apart like you can.

  • @Brutuscomedy
    @Brutuscomedy Před 2 měsíci +5

    Elmo says, "Nice outfit and shoes, Jordan!"

  • @blacksquirrel4008
    @blacksquirrel4008 Před 2 měsíci +6

    “…Peterson’s grift of white evangelicalism.” Meow! That cuts deeply.

  • @nobodyk4407
    @nobodyk4407 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Hey, I was in the class that you talked with today. It was great thanks for answering our questions. I’m not sure if you’ll remember but I asked about the leviathan/ sea beast again thanks for making time for us!

  • @SkywalkerSamadhi
    @SkywalkerSamadhi Před 2 měsíci +12

    wtf is Peterson wearing? What happened to that guy?

    • @tiredoftrolls2629
      @tiredoftrolls2629 Před 2 měsíci +9

      A woman probably suggested some fashion updates and he decided to do something completely opposite because women don't tell him what to do.

    • @jamesthedog7783
      @jamesthedog7783 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@tiredoftrolls2629 right on! Probably accurate AF.

    • @Nolrai12
      @Nolrai12 Před 2 měsíci +3

      He became a bat man villain. Like full on.

  • @c.a.t.732
    @c.a.t.732 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Well, it depends on what you mean by "responding"...

  • @lde-m8688
    @lde-m8688 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I know we aren't supposed to comment about appearance, and I am commenting on his suit, not his appearance. What is going on with that suit?

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @VoodooChild333 Yeah, but I like K-pop. I was thinking more of a suit on a morning sport show or something? Regardless, it's not a great look for old Jordie there.

    • @lysanamcmillan7972
      @lysanamcmillan7972 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lde-m8688 If you've seen the Colin Baker episodes of Doctor Who, I have one word for you: Mel.

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lysanamcmillan7972 Ha ha ha, wow I forgot about him. But a time lord can clearly pull off the look, not so much Jordan though. The only thing more wacky than his suit is his ideas.

  • @ChristopherJones-qv7mz
    @ChristopherJones-qv7mz Před 2 měsíci +4

    Why is he dressed like a Batman villain?

    • @digitaljanus
      @digitaljanus Před 2 měsíci

      He stole his professorial salary from the taxpayers of Ontario when it turned out he spent decades using his academic position to rail against Marxism without having read any actual Marxists.

    • @ronaldflint681
      @ronaldflint681 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He might be.

  • @theoutspokenhumanist
    @theoutspokenhumanist Před 2 měsíci +3

    Everyone semed to be in love with Peterson for a while. Thank goodness most of us have woken up. He uses too many words to say little and what he does say is worthless. A perfect example of presentation over content.

    • @keith6706
      @keith6706 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Peterson is the contemporary example of the W.C. Fields quote "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit". He makes himself sound smart and going on at length about something, and it often takes time to figure out what exactly he's saying. He thrives on people arguing philosophical points of what he said instead of doing what they should do, as Dan did: pointing out that his very basis is wrong and he's just making crap up.

  • @Spiritof_76
    @Spiritof_76 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Jordan Peterson just spouting a stream of consciousness, playing word association games with himself. Nothing to see here, folks, move along, move along...
    "...like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now, where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones..."

  • @jamesmecalemusic5055
    @jamesmecalemusic5055 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Not many would take on Peterson! Good job Dan!

  • @booksquid856
    @booksquid856 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I love Peterson's suits now. Yes, the haters will make fun...but his style is awesome.

    • @lysanamcmillan7972
      @lysanamcmillan7972 Před 2 měsíci

      It takes chutzpah akin to how he lies for a living to dress like that.

    • @booksquid856
      @booksquid856 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lysanamcmillan7972 jealous, eh?

  • @OuryLN
    @OuryLN Před 2 měsíci +6

    Oh, I would have said he’s batshit crazy!

  • @doofusrick5998
    @doofusrick5998 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Only JP could go on a ten minute monologue about some esoteric biblical allegory in Genesis only to end up at "trans people bad"

  • @haramanggapuja
    @haramanggapuja Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love it! Well said, well spoken & right on!

  • @samuelcookphippen
    @samuelcookphippen Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesomeness

  • @randykrus9562
    @randykrus9562 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Peterson makes it up as he goes. Word salads are a quick fix for his audience and he knows it.

  • @stephenleblanc4677
    @stephenleblanc4677 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Aside for SOME of his self-help, everything else Peterson says in 95+% inane... or flat out lies. I HIGHLY recommend the entertaining and informative video "A Brief Look At Jordan Peterson" on the Some More News.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Just how great is that 5% that you consider non-inane. Iirc, it seemed like harmless platitudes. Make your bed in the morning, etc. nothing that was especially insightful. Then he became the white night of inceldom.

    • @stephenleblanc4677
      @stephenleblanc4677 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MarcosElMalo2 I wrote "aside for some of his self-help." Watch the Some More News video. Jordan has big (terrible) opinions on climate change, economic policy, etc.

    • @lysanamcmillan7972
      @lysanamcmillan7972 Před 2 měsíci

      @@stephenleblanc4677 The Wisecrack channel has a few on him as well, including deeper dives into his specific areas of being terrible at it. Knowing Some More News, they likely reach compatible conclusions.

  • @toritori5835
    @toritori5835 Před 2 měsíci +1

    “She can speak for the poisonous & inedible.”
    But they ATE it and did not even get sick (let alone die) from it. I don’t think that was the author’s point.

  • @johnmichaelcule8423
    @johnmichaelcule8423 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I think he may have read an executive summary of a Wikipedia article on the subject of the theology of the Fall.

  • @aliciastanley5582
    @aliciastanley5582 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That was very informative and enjoyable.😁

  • @QuinnPrice
    @QuinnPrice Před 2 měsíci +1

    Peterson is the king of word salads. He's the poster child for finding a crowd to lead rather than standing for something and letting the crowd gather.

  • @MinhNguyen-sz7jy
    @MinhNguyen-sz7jy Před 2 měsíci +1

    listen to JP make me remeber how I had to write nonsense for a literature class. Requirement: write a 5000 words essay to analyze a 50 words poem

  • @tomdukowski
    @tomdukowski Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you!

  • @boxcardboard5594
    @boxcardboard5594 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Oh it so sucks when there is that single dude listening who actually read the text, understood it, and remembered…
    Poor JBP.

  • @michaelcox8506
    @michaelcox8506 Před 2 měsíci

    Sick T shirt! Also the unpacking of existential concerns is fine or whatever.

  • @FernLovebond
    @FernLovebond Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ooh, someone call 911! Peterson needs rescuing from these devastating burns.

  • @StudentDad-mc3pu
    @StudentDad-mc3pu Před 2 měsíci +1

    I wouldn't buy a used car from anyone wearing that suit!

  • @BabyHoolighan
    @BabyHoolighan Před 2 měsíci +1

    That hit home like a Wanted Poster.

  • @dethspud
    @dethspud Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nailed it.

  • @AlexLee-tk3is
    @AlexLee-tk3is Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dr. McClellan, what are your thoughts on the new X-men '97?

  • @jks612
    @jks612 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Hold on. I'm calling Webster to see if he'll put Peterson's face in the entry for casuistry.

  • @toniacollinske2518
    @toniacollinske2518 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dayum. Take no prisoners, Dan. PS: I utterly adore you. Peterson, the grifter

  • @apropos4701
    @apropos4701 Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you listen even for a few seconds, you can pick up whom Jordan Peterson worships. It's not the I Am. It's the I Like That.

  • @MM-jf1me
    @MM-jf1me Před 2 měsíci +2

    Of all channels I am subscribed to and enjoy, this one consistently has the meanest comments -- if people aren't insulting each other in the comment section, then of course many must insult whoever Dr. McClellan is responding to. Is it really too much to ask that folks remain civil and discuss and debate others' ideas instead of their personal appearances?

    • @williamspears1627
      @williamspears1627 Před 2 měsíci

      A person's fanbase is often a reflection of who they are.

    • @beerboots
      @beerboots Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@williamspears1627That's not the fairest generalisation in this case. Keep in mind that Dan specifically covers controversial content, so by nature of this fact, that controversy will play out in the comments.

  • @k98killer
    @k98killer Před 2 měsíci +1

    The captions mistake "etiologies" and instead transcribe it as "ideologies". This is the second or third time I have noticed this. Hopefully this can be fixed in the future, because it would be quite confusing if I couldn't hear what you were saying.

  • @mdug7224
    @mdug7224 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Rudyard Kipling also came up with some tales to explain animals. I am sure JP could produce a long, wrong rant about them, too.

  • @VulcanLogic
    @VulcanLogic Před 2 měsíci +2

    What does he mean, "Adam listening to Eve?" Read the text of Genesis 3:6. Adam saw and heard the snake speech and everything. She didn't have to bring the fruit back to camp; he was standing right next to her the whole time. She didn't say anything to him; she didn't try to convince him to eat it with her "feminine wiles". She just made a handoff and he ate it.

    • @williamspears1627
      @williamspears1627 Před 2 měsíci

      You're blatantly wrong about this one. You guys are such contrarians. Don't Believe me? Read Genesis 3 for yourself. Adam obviously wasn't there when she was speaking with the serpent. He was around in the sense of being somewhat nearby that section of the garden, but he was not present.

    • @VulcanLogic
      @VulcanLogic Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@williamspears1627 Genesis 3:6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, *who was with her*, and he ate it.
      Thanks for playing, though. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.

  • @68chewy
    @68chewy Před 2 měsíci +1

    Jordan Peterson is the guy who likes apples in Good Will Hunting all grown up.

  • @iamdanielmonroe
    @iamdanielmonroe Před 2 měsíci +3

    Over the years, I have been and still am to a degree a fan of Jordan Peterson mainly because his teachings and lectures have helped me navigate through rough or confusing parts of my life as well as the sense that he is genuine in his good will towards individuals bettering themselves, but even I admit that he often (especially recently) is very prone to word salad and making a ton of philosophical leaps and presuppositions in order to make his points. I prefer him when he’s in his more psychological and scientifically backed lane than when he’s mapping his philosophical leanings onto ancient stories and traditions. That’s when he starts to lose me.

    • @lysanamcmillan7972
      @lysanamcmillan7972 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That is the tragedy of Dr. Peterson. He started out a well-respected psychologist. Then he got infected by evolutionary psych and the descent began.

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@lysanamcmillan7972 As far as I can tell, Jorbo Porbo hasn't been within fifty light years of Evolutionary Psychology. His schtick has pretty much exclusively been Jungian philosophy, which is essentially attributing human psychology to a combination of memes and effin' magic.
      Edit: the closest he gets to it is his whole obsession with lobsters, but that entire bit is an extremely superficial way to say "the hierarchical structures that currently exist and coincidentally place me near the top for being born a white cis man are natural and good and anyone that tries to change it even to better their own position is objectively wrong, because lobsters naturally have heirarchy!" Actual experts in both evolutionary psychology and lobsters pretty much flat out call him a quack on that entire analogy.

    • @iamdanielmonroe
      @iamdanielmonroe Před 2 měsíci

      @@lnsflare1 From what I’ve seen, this is a complete strawman of his position. His reference to lobsters is only meant to highlight the fact that hierarchies are not a new human or an even particularly capitalist invention. His point is that they’ve existed even within the nervous systems of prehistoric animals ie; the lobsters. He neither defends it or opposes it…he merely states the fact of its existence to people who want to tear down the idea of hierarchies because from their perspective the whole concept is an evil western capitalist invention.

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@iamdanielmonroe And, putting aside that his description of how lobsters behave is apparently incorrect, and especially his citation of how serotonin affects lobster brains is relevant to how serotonin affects the drastically student human brains, that's his response whenever someone asks him something along the lines of whether or not people are wrong to want to try to change the current systems, making it a deflection tactic that says nothing.
      It also has absolutely nothing to do with actual Evolutionary Psychology other than him incorrectly describing lobster biology instead of citing works of fiction as is his normal modus operandi.

  • @MichaelWalker-de8nf
    @MichaelWalker-de8nf Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dan, you are metal, as always 🤘🏻❤️ data smashes dogma 😈

  • @toomanymoose
    @toomanymoose Před 2 měsíci +1

    haha the response at 1:40 is all we needed

  • @daniellamcgee4251
    @daniellamcgee4251 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Please keep these stitches of J.P. coming!

  • @sammysamlovescats
    @sammysamlovescats Před 2 měsíci +1

    Tangentally related question to how later Christians interpreted thing
    I've seen a fair amount of apologetics that say when in Isaiah it says "I make evil" the word used there is also used for things like natural disasters and thus the passage is only talking about those kinds of things. Is there truth to that, or is it just apologetic sleight of hand?

  • @squiddwizzard8850
    @squiddwizzard8850 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm a big fan of snakes. Both in that I am extremely fond of them and also I am both tall and wide.

  • @KSTEW53UTUBE
    @KSTEW53UTUBE Před 2 měsíci +1

    Drop the mic dan!!!!!!!...BOOM🎤

  • @ContradictionKid007
    @ContradictionKid007 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nice x-men shirt. And Jordan has on a nice suit. This is a very well dressed CZcams video.

  • @stephenwodz7593
    @stephenwodz7593 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Taking on Jordan Peterson is really punching down.

  • @RealTrentertainment
    @RealTrentertainment Před 2 měsíci +1

    If Peterson truly has become popular with evangelicals, I'm honestly a little surprised. They typically like a straight-forward, literalist view of the text, right? I would have thought that evangelicals would reject Peterson's more "creative", metaphorical interpretation. Perhaps they just find him politically or socially useful?

    • @Mikeypem
      @Mikeypem Před 2 měsíci +2

      I think that’s a really good point. Interestingly, evangelicals have done this for decades with C.S. Lewis. The guy is their patron saint of apologetics and yet he thought most (if not all) of the Old Testament was myth.

  • @randykrus9562
    @randykrus9562 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dan just brought the hammer there at the end.......

  • @_S0me__0ne
    @_S0me__0ne Před 2 měsíci +1

    I liked Jordan Peterson for about five minutes, especially before i deconverted from Christianity. Once he really got popular in certain circles and he started going off the deep end and spouting things outside his expertise and knowledge I fairly quickly stopped paying attention to him.
    He's almost like a neo- William F Buckley Jr

  • @schalkvanheerden315
    @schalkvanheerden315 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It also doesn't say that Adam and Eve was made perfect. Whatever. Points for trying to Jordan Peterson on this one for me, because although he fails miserably at making logical sense of it to me, at least he's choosing to derive some kind of value from it as he always does. I can respect that. Can't say the same for that suit though.

  • @kreyolLA84
    @kreyolLA84 Před 2 měsíci +1

    👌🏾

  • @timdevolldable
    @timdevolldable Před 8 dny

    We negotiate with texts to gain knowledge, which was in essence , the pride of interpretation that the snake gave Eve .
    Before the fall , there was nothing to interpret, or negotiate. that’s the point of the story- in my interpretation of course. Christ died for believers and non believers. The new covenant is very clear in why/how it predicts a second coming also.

  • @ds6972
    @ds6972 Před měsícem

    That look at 1:39. I cant stop laughing.

  • @lukedmoss
    @lukedmoss Před 2 měsíci

    Sooo what do YOU think is a better interpretation of Genesis 2-3 ?

  • @TempehLiberation
    @TempehLiberation Před 2 měsíci +4

    Peterson out here not doing any favors to Jungian's to be honest...

    • @ritawing1064
      @ritawing1064 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Goodness knows they need all the favours they can get.

    • @BobbyHill26
      @BobbyHill26 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Are there any jungians doing favors for themselves?

    • @lysanamcmillan7972
      @lysanamcmillan7972 Před 2 měsíci

      Jung was racist and pro-fascist. This is why Peterson kisses his gravestone.

  • @user-gk9lg5sp4y
    @user-gk9lg5sp4y Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you put two children in a room with a cake and tell them not to eat it, guess what? It's your effing fault when they do eat it.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci

      But according to Jeepersen, the cake is inedible. So it’s more like putting the children in a room with a bowling ball and telling them not to eat it.

    • @user-gk9lg5sp4y
      @user-gk9lg5sp4y Před 2 měsíci

      @@MarcosElMalo2 And yet they ate of the cake and gained the knowledge of good and evil

    • @jm329
      @jm329 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MarcosElMalo2But he was wrong about that. “When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. “

  • @X_Baron
    @X_Baron Před 2 měsíci

    Interestingly, the serpent seems to be trying to appeal to Eve's pride, but that's not exactly why Eve eats the fruit, and even less so with Adam.

  • @psifiusc
    @psifiusc Před 2 měsíci +1

    I like seeing Dan taking on clowns like Peterson rather than rando tiktokkers or whatever. Peterson's nonsense at least comes with some unearned status and "credibility" that Dan can shatter with -- in this case -- a baffled smirk, followed by the reasoning that supports said smirk. Watching Dan engaging with, especially when it becomes a back and forth, pitiful nitwits who are out of their depth just feels sad.

  • @mistersmith8962
    @mistersmith8962 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Jung and Archetypes ...everywhere

  • @timothyshaw5498
    @timothyshaw5498 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well, he needn’t burden himself too much with this effort; if Trump and white evangelicals have already shown us how easily & even eagerly they are to be grifted.

  • @bipolarrambling242
    @bipolarrambling242 Před 2 měsíci

    Oh I love that you called him out as a grifter.

  • @brock2k1
    @brock2k1 Před 2 měsíci

    This is a much better look for Dan, when he opposes influential speakers. Some of his videos, where he is opposing some guy in his mom's basement, are like shooting a cannon at a mosquito.

  • @nancyhope2205
    @nancyhope2205 Před 2 měsíci

    Years ago I liked Paterson a lot and I owe it him that I started link up more idea and topics. Since he was so very sick he has come back as a believer it seems. Rationality flies out window. Early Peterson before he got sick is useful.

    • @rugbyguy59
      @rugbyguy59 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Maybe on his 12 rules advice (I'd question that), but he was always off the wall with his takes on current events philosophy, and his interpretations of the Heroes Journey

    • @nancyhope2205
      @nancyhope2205 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rugbyguy59 like I said, look at him 5 years ago and before.

    • @matthewgagnon9426
      @matthewgagnon9426 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@nancyhope2205 He came into prominence by lying about a hate speech law.

    • @nancyhope2205
      @nancyhope2205 Před 2 měsíci

      @@matthewgagnon9426 yeah, it was too much for him. He became inflated and then broke down.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@rugbyguy59What, do you think that “refusing the grandma’s pubic hair” isn’t part of the heroic cycle? That’s one of the major turning points.

  • @68chewy
    @68chewy Před 2 měsíci

    Concerning the 'toiling laboriously for food'. I've thought for a while god created man to be his gardener. Would like to know if there is a "why" god created man in genesis, or a school of thought about that.

  • @tbishop4961
    @tbishop4961 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Er muh gosh.. those blue shoes and clown suit 🤦‍♂️🤡😭

  • @beerboots
    @beerboots Před 2 měsíci

    Please do more videos addressing Peterson's Bible grifting. People who just make shit up and speak it authoritatively need to be taken down a notch and viewed through the lens of discretion.

  • @SuperBC10
    @SuperBC10 Před 2 měsíci

    I’ve always thought that JP uses his apparent “Christian” beliefs as a method to get a lot of people on board to his way. Very much like what everyone who is a supposed “Christian” does to but in a different way.
    Things like hypocrisy, dogma, self serving and delusion is the order of the day.

  • @eeyoreofborg
    @eeyoreofborg Před 2 měsíci

    Dan McClellan drinking game:
    1 drink every time Dan says etiology.
    1/2 drink every time Dan says laughable/laughably.

    • @lysanamcmillan7972
      @lysanamcmillan7972 Před 2 měsíci

      Sip on "the fit today is." Full drink if said fit is not a comic book character. Sip on "OK, let's see it."

    • @eeyoreofborg
      @eeyoreofborg Před 2 měsíci

      Sip gin on "gin/ginned up".

  • @MusicalRaichu
    @MusicalRaichu Před 2 měsíci

    1:40 That's what I did when I heard it too.

  • @GhostGXr
    @GhostGXr Před 2 měsíci

    I wonder if inference is actually taught in biblical and religious learning avenues. It doesn't seem like it is. A considerable amount of literature is actually very symbolic, and even Jesus uses parables and stories to tell a greater tale, which he probably adopted from the ancient Egyptians for the same reason. We can't take everything literally.

  • @KasperKatje
    @KasperKatje Před 2 měsíci +3

    Inedible salad...💬🥬

  • @hissupremecorrectfulnessre9478
    @hissupremecorrectfulnessre9478 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Kermit the Fraud.

  • @mindtruthwordlife505
    @mindtruthwordlife505 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Nailed it

  • @ApPersonaNonGrata
    @ApPersonaNonGrata Před 2 měsíci

    I extra

  • @bardmadsen6956
    @bardmadsen6956 Před 2 měsíci

    I watched a number of his lectures of mythological psychology before I said a word, then blocked. Only his way or the highway. Same thing with scholars that obviously have not a clue to what Tauroctony symbolizes and don't want to hear any other ideas.