“Crocodile Tears?” Paula Vennells Breaks Down In Tears Mid-Evidence At Post Office Inquiry
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
- Talk’s Ian Collins is joined by assistant editor at the Daily Express Asa Bennett.
Ian and Asa discuss the day’s political stories, including former Post Office boss Paula Vennells giving evidence to the Horizon IT inquiry.
Ms Vennells broke down in tears twice as she was grilled about why she had told MPs that the Post Office had been successful in every case against subpostmasters.
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Seven people took their lives because of her lies jail her.
Her action led to deaths and unjust imprisonments. These are very serious consequence that require prosecutions.
shes only sorry she got caught!!
hold her accountable and send her to JAIL.....
She knowingly ruined lives. Allowing this to slide sends a terrible message.
I personally felt one of the most despicable answers was when she said that she had a conversation with the father of one of the people who had taken their own lives and that there were other issues ,that just sums her up for me
Mr Beer pressed her, she backtracked about thinking someone else, it was sickening her calculated response till Mr Beer caught her... Many regards for posting this it really got to me too
It was not that there were other issues. She was looking and was told it was the PO (Horizon). She made the rest up based on nothing.
Not Christian act to bear false witness, morally false, jail time to repent.
In my experience, this is EXACTLY how the majority of Christians act. Self-righteous, arse-covering twats are rife in churches.
She's a compulsive liar
Of course she knew. The Post Office hired Second Sight to investigate and when Second Sight reported Horizon flaws to the P.O. they were sacked by the P.O.. Angela Van Den Bogerd who has already testified said as soon as she knew anything she would immediately make sure that Pauls Vennells knew too.
Vennells should be jailed and throw away the key, she should lose everything!!!! People have committed suicide for what she has done!!!!
Your are right , be she was far from being alone !
A delay tactic to a difficult question.
She knew it all ? So why come forward now ? She should be locked up.
£4.5 million this ‘priest’ received in salary and bonuses! Disgusting……get her before a judge!!
She took the money she takes the blame.Thats what her bosses said and now those people are dead .
Her pay should be given to the post masters
Love the fact the enquiry put a large colourful box of tissues on her table. Almost like they knew she'd cry.
Her flamboyant taking was all I needed
Mr Beer is a national treasure
Going forward the CEO must have ultimate criminal liability for the actions of anyone in the company that causes the company to break the law. Additionally the limited company is a legal entity and must finance any damages resulting from its or its executives or employees or sub contractors criminal actions. If no individuals within a company can be identified as jointly or severally responsible for the company's illegal actions then the CEO of the company must be equally liable for the result of the company's actions as if they had personally committed those illegal actions. The law requires a change.
Prison Prison Prison
No tears when she accepted the CBE.
No tears when she accepted the bonus paid from the innocent sub postmasters own money.
No tears even when she did find out about the horizon bug.
No tears when she practiced her faith.
No tears when told people had taken their own lives, she even ordered an investigation into their mental health and family.
Only tears when they get caught it seems.
I did read that the Rev. Vennells, has the largest collection of completed Sudoku books and 1000 piece Jigsaw Puzzles in the United Kingdom.
After all, as none of her 'people' ever told her anything, she had to find some means of passing all those long, tedious, days in the plush office, sitting in a comfy chair behind a large, elegant, desk.
"She didn't know"? She was copulatingly well paid to know!
PPL. IN. PRISON ??? FOR. FAR. FAR. LESS
jail time needed
In the NHS we used to say "S*it floats"!!!!!!
Years ago, one of my more cynical lecturers remarked that politics was like cooling dishwater, in that the scum congealed at the top. I believe he would have applied this to the Post Office as well.
At the moment, the Post Office reminds me of a tin can on a firing range which has been blown full of holes... and it still remains standing.
All those involved in causing the post masters to be put in prison or lose everything should each have to serve the total amout of time each post master had to serve and should be fined the total amount, every penny, the combined post masters had to pay in fines and refunds
It was zappsauling today, having to listen to lies to emails I front of her, and to top ot with badly coached gesticulatiln... Belieability zero that's when the laughter kicked in... At the end sir wynn thanked people there for being restrained... Her excuses were insulting to theSPMs and to the public...
Reminds me of sturgeon at the covid enquiry.
Is this why they're emptying the prisons, to make room for the post office bosses.😂
jail time overdue 🤨
She got big jobs because she is a consummate and competent internal politician. If ever there was evidence that competence does not relate to character, this is it. The flaw is, although she was highly competent in manipulation and internal politics, big politics caught her out.
I doubt he would be back at work if he was a roadwork, packer, roofer or laborer.
Prison please
Don't know anything about this, but still trying to find some benefit from the infected blood stuff coming out, myself!
Her legal advice would be not to admit to knowing any of it, as it would be to all other high level execs, thus making future civil action against them that much more difficult.
If she actually was employed in the higher stratum of corporate business for a major company for over 5 years...and never knew the PO prosecuted totally with its very own legal team without plod involvement that is just frankly unbelievable.
Apart from the armed forces and possibly religious orders, I cannot think of any other organization that assumes the role of investigator, judge and jury before hauling victims in to secular jurisdiction...presumably because they had not built their own prisons yet?
Incompetency and utter disinterest beyond the bonus and personal comfort of a CEO that so obviously should never have been in spitting distance of the power to ruin peoples lives.
I know I'll play an ACE.
Arse covering exercise.
She needs jail ,
I would look at the people underneath her, the legal team in particular…
Seems like the excuses are going to be "I Didn't know" or "I was only following orders". That's been used before. Post 1945.
She can still be hauled into court. It’s up to a jury to decide whether her evidence is false. There is a mountain of evidence to suggest it is false. I doubt the authorities will make the attempt, it would probably be down to JFSA to bring a private prosecution against her.
There are moments where her flashes of anger are barely, but quickly, suppressed. Noticeably when the gallery dares to gasp at her clear nonsense.
There was a beautiful moment when she was spouting her belief that the Post Office “IS” a part of the community and “IS” a wonderful organisation etc. In the background you can just hear Jason Beer say “WAS”. She actually acknowledges it with a cynical nod.
A cunning and ruthless individual, perfect for the clergy.
This may be a first in this extremely sad scenario. Watching Paula Vennells give evidence on her first day to the Horizon enquiry, I actually believe we should consider the strong possibility of her suffering from 'Anosognosia'. It's a neurological condition, more often attributed to someone who has had a stroke. However, whichever way, questions are put to her about her responsibility in all of this tragedy, she has a genuine blind spot as to her own culpability! Like someone who suffers amnesia after an accident, I believe her loss of memory and genuine inability to recall her own responsibility is down to a genuine neurological condition. I really don't believe she is an all out vindictive person. I do think, during the course of events, she discovered she was out of her depth and panicked. Should this enquiry go to a trial in court, I do think a Psychiatric evaluation might reveal she is sadly, more mentally disturbed than this enquiry might reveal, based simply on her gross naivety and incapacity to handle such a huge crisis. I think, fearing for her position and the huge consequences of her lack of leadership, she became so confused, there is nothing she can honestly say in her defence.
Were this to go to a court of law and a Psychiatric evaluation reveals a hypervigilant narcissism, her accusers may need to reconsider, how much she deserves to be pilloried. Understandably, there is a huge amount of anger, especially from the victims. However, rather than directing that anger to the one person, who may genuinely have a personality disorder, that forbids her to see her own wrong doing in this, there are many other players in this, who seemingly suffer from selective amnesia and should be held to account. In particular, those inspectors who bullied the Postmasters into agreements that saw them in courts and in some case, imprisoned.
It seems to me there is currently a distinct evil phase going on in the world. Everyone, especially the Media Monster, is looking to blame someone, anyone, for the World's ills. No matter the rights and wrongs of this tragic case, let us not lose sight of the fact that Paula Vennells is still a human being. She may be a very ill human being but still a living breathing human being, who, at this moment must feel like the most hated person in the world and to add to the tragedy, she doesn't understand why!
This is all very well but the fact remains that she was paid significantly with bonuses and had considerable power for several years and evidence shows she lied to parliament and did everything to protect the PO Brand to the detriment is Sub POs. The bigger issue here that Corporations will always protect themselves at the detriment to the individuals. Paula should not escape being held accountable but unfortunately due to the way that the system works in the Uk I don’t think anyone will be held accountable.
Vennals- Dunning Kruger,- Common Purpose hatchling ( possibly)..
If Spain chooses to accept the state of Palestine. Then its about time Basque gets its independence as well as Catalonia.
Why on earth are you here? This is about the Post Office scandal.
No one believes her.
I suspect that she doesn't believe what she is saying, either. Carefully scripted by her lawyers in an attempt, probably, successful, to avoid criminal charges.
Now just imagine how civil servants behave....
maybe there will be prosecutions at the DVLA for giving up during covid? After pretenting to work from home civil servants made up the HGV driver shortage to undermine brexit.
Unlawful influence of an MP - I can't understand why the media aren't covering the Mark Davies (Communications Officer, ex employee of Jack Straw, then Straw's wife Alice Perkins who sat on the Board of the Post Office). An e mail was shown to Davies whilst he gave evidence, smugly telling Paula Vennells and the rest, that he knew the Labour MP on the committee and would have a word with him before the Committee, intimating Davies might persuade him to not to press certain issues.
You dare to question the integrity of Labour Royalty? Shame on you!!
@@dovetonsturdee7033 please tell me you are being sarcastic!
@@Wearmouth Indeed I am.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 not sure how you feel, but this Election is terrifying me. I was brought up in a Labour heartland, they were perceived as the "good guys", by my workingclass community. Now all I see are London centric left wing elites, who have no problem profiling my demographic as far right extremists, when the truth is in their eyes we were not born into the right class!!!
Psychopaths are very cunning and crafty. Paula Vennells knows exactly what she's doing, using manipulation and deflecting responsibility off herself and rather unto others. Every move is calculated, planned, manipulated, and controlled. You see her doing this over and over again in the Inquiry. She's a master chess player in this exercise. Let's hope Sir Wyn will checkmate her.
well she is former clergy so she is either deliberately delusional to suit her agenda or an experienced grifter and liar probably both.
Crocodile tears? No. I think the tears were genuine. Why was she crying? I think she was finally overwhelmed by the situation. This is not to defend her actions or lack of action. But she is being grilled and humiliated in the full glare of national publicity. She has been the focus of press attention for a long time. Yes yes all of her own making but we all have our breaking point. I think she reached hers during the inquiry. Unless she is a total monster along the lines of Myra Hindley (and I do not believe that) I think she also has personal regrets for the terrible suffering that the subpostmasters have undergone. Her actions and inactions can be explained as a combination of self-interest and incompetence. Once you make a decision to lie, one lie follows another and it becomes hard if not impossible to back out. Whatever. But I'm perfectly sure the tears were genuine.