As much as I enjoy the modern day F1 Gladiators, this is so very special, this is balls out racing and it's a great feeling watching this ( never seen it before ) just clips, I got so excited watching this race it was like watching a modern day grand prix but just so much more fun, thanks for sharing, this it made me feel like a young kids again, there are some cool things I miss from the 70's and this is right up there.
Well Reutemann in the first start. Then it seems that they started again in the same positions of the classification and lost their third position. Today it would be done in another way. What a mess did Scheckter.
Why didn't someone strangle Baxter before the start and let the race run in silence until Graham took over when his car inevitably broke down ? BTW if 'Yody' (oh dear oh dear) hadn't crashed Jackie would have won by miles...
Damn, listen to these cars. Those are "real" engines!! Look at the power slides, almost all the way around, every lap, every turn. The tires weren't mad to grip completely. They lasted a whole race, on average. The drivers spent as much time glancing in the rear view mirrors as looking forward. This is how F-1 should be. Not the crap we have today, tires that completely dictate races, cars that barely slide, all look the same (as opposed to every single car in this race in 1973 being different), all looking like electric slot cars. Big fat tires. Just can't get any better.
He died next year actually. He made fatal mistake joining Shadow with its fragile cars. With Mac he would be alive and well for sure until his end of career.
Revson got screwed out of the drive with McLaren. Fittipaldi suddenly left Lotus and went to McLaren, bringing with him Marlboro sponsorship. Something broke on Revson's car during pre-season practice at Kyalami, S. Africa, sending Revson into the armco barriers. These are the same armco barriers Jackie Stewart kept demanding !!! If there had been a run-off area, maybe Revson would have made it. His car caught fire and there was no rescue equipment or fire trucks. There are pictures of Hulme in short sleeves and Hill in his full uniform trying to get to Revson's body. He had no chance. For everyone saved by those armco barriers, another person got killed by them. Helmut Koinegg driving for Surtees was beheaded when he went underneath one of them at the USGP. Cevert was also killed by them, being essentially cut in half. I know Stewart meant well, but lining dangerous corners with them was absurd. I can't believe there wasn't a better way, even way back then.
William - Very interesting points. Yes I agree that run off areas are much better, but of course one of the problems with these old circuits was there was no room for run offs - for example where Cevert crashed there had to be a barrier because that bit of track was above ground - it was called 'The Bridge'. However, another point against barriers is that, as John Surtees recently said, they were deadly for motorbikes, as shown in Monza in 1973 when two riders were killed in one incident. Catch fencing seemed a good compromise, what do you think ?
William - Me again - plus some drivers died becauuse the barriers weren't fitted properly, not because of the barriers themselves - Rindt and Williamson for example - I know Williamson was scandalously allowed to burn in his car but if the barrier hadn't 'given way' when his suspension failed his car would almost certainly not have overturned.
Yes, damn good points. You're right, the barrier that Rindt hit was not far enough flush with the ground, so Rindt's wing went under the lower level of armco and hit a wooden post, immediately stopping the car and ripping off the entire front end. It was so violent that Rindt submarined in the car, going so far forward that he cut his neck on the harness and maybe something else. If he'd had been wearing a 3-point harness as Jackie Stewart wore, he might have lived, but he evidently didn't like them. Still, the injuries to his feet would have been severe enough that he'd have never returned to racing, only staying as long as he did because Chapman promised to give him a car, in the Lotus 72, that truly could bring him the championship; it did, but not before killing him. The mechanics, on Colin's insistence, had drilled too many holes in the front drive shaft that it was weakened and broke, sending Rindt into his spin. I've talked to any number of mechanics for other F-1 teams from that era and they all have told me that mechanics and drivers knew too much lightening of Lotus parts was being done and that some other teams intentionally built their cars stronger and heavier even though it might cost them 1 sec here and there.
I've always thought that Jackie's first start here was every bit as good as Senna's in Donington in 1973, yet it seems that only Senna's is remembered. What a pillock Raymond Baxter was with his 'Pete' Revson and 'Yody' Scheckter and Francois 'Sevaay' and his constant boring naming of corners because he had nothing interesting to say. Why wasn't Graham Hil simply allowed to do the commentating by himself ? I bet if the wonderful Graham had lived he would have become the main BBC commentator alongside the many other things his awful death prevented him doing.
ysgol3 Ye But the Tyrells had fewer reliable issues and that, (along with Stewart's driving skill) brought Stewart to the Title. Fittipaldi and Peterson were great drivers, but I think Stewart was better. Kinda reminds me of Senna's 1991 WC victory, where his McLaren was 2nd best alongside the Williams, but managed to win due to skill and fewer reliablity issues than the Williams cars. Furthermore, Senna was also better skillwise than both Mansell and Patrese, who were great drivers.
+NEW CHANNEL, READ MY FEED Thanks for your interest, sorry I stand by my comment (!) Stewart was also a rainmaster (as in the Nurburgring 1968) and, as I said, Fittipaldi has said on camera that the 73 Tyrrell wasn't as good as the 73 Lotus. When Jackie passed Ronnie at Becketts close watchers could see Ronnie shaking his head in disbelief, indeed there's a lovely film of Ronnie + Jackie chatting before the restart with Ronnie congratulating JYS for his start.
As much as I enjoy the modern day F1 Gladiators, this is so very special, this is balls out racing and it's a great feeling watching this ( never seen it before ) just clips, I got so excited watching this race it was like watching a modern day grand prix but just so much more fun, thanks for sharing, this it made me feel like a young kids again, there are some cool things I miss from the 70's and this is right up there.
I'm really impressed with the level of camera work, pit reporters, blimp shots, etc. for a race from 1973! Great stuff
love the engine sounds and the racing is sublime
21:26 "original commentary by Raymond Baxter and Graham Hill"
21:32 Graham Hill clearly at the wheel of his Embassy Shadow.....
Fantastic! Love the commentaries. "gap is 3 seconds and a bit" Graham Hill "steering rack fell off"
Silverstone looked so different then to how it is now. And how on earth did Scheckter survive that horrible crash?
QUE BIEN HABIA LARGADO EL LOLE EN LA 1ER LARGADA...!!
Those Lotus are amazing.
Listening to the names is heartbreaking: Hunt, Peterson, Revson, Cevert, Hulme, Regazzoni, Hailwood, Pace. All gone now.
And breathtaking. Just look at them sliding the cars in almost every corner.
You missed out Graham Hill
Awesome😎
SIMPLY AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!
you have others races from this era ?
Baxter is the best F1 commentator ever. He captures the drama completely.
Certainly more appealing than Murray Walker.
I wish I knew the commentator who called the Group C races in the early to mid-80's. He was really good.
This was also Roger Williamson's first Grand Prix, the next race in Zandvoort he would have that terrible accident.
still much better than modern F1.
glad to see this,this should be available on dvd?
A cette époque il y avait des accidents à chaque course (avec ou sans tués)..
Well Reutemann in the first start. Then it seems that they started again in the same positions of the classification and lost their third position.
Today it would be done in another way. What a mess did Scheckter.
"Flag out and a way we go!!"
no safety reg in those days, people taking photos on the apex of the first corner. mad
And filming too. best shots ever!
Jody strike ....haha
7:06 massive crash that causes a red flag
Why didn't someone strangle Baxter before the start and let the race run in silence until Graham took over when his car inevitably broke down ? BTW if 'Yody' (oh dear oh dear) hadn't crashed Jackie would have won by miles...
I forgot to mention Baxter's ridiculous Emerson 'Fittipauldi'.
Damn, listen to these cars. Those are "real" engines!! Look at the power slides, almost all the way around, every lap, every turn. The tires weren't mad to grip completely. They lasted a whole race, on average. The drivers spent as much time glancing in the rear view mirrors as looking forward. This is how F-1 should be. Not the crap we have today, tires that completely dictate races, cars that barely slide, all look the same (as opposed to every single car in this race in 1973 being different), all looking like electric slot cars. Big fat tires. Just can't get any better.
its raymond baxter commentating
Good old Revvie.
Sadly, he'd be dead within a few months.
He died next year actually. He made fatal mistake joining Shadow with its fragile cars. With Mac he would be alive and well for sure until his end of career.
Revson got screwed out of the drive with McLaren. Fittipaldi suddenly left Lotus and went to McLaren, bringing with him Marlboro sponsorship. Something broke on Revson's car during pre-season practice at Kyalami, S. Africa, sending Revson into the armco barriers. These are the same armco barriers Jackie Stewart kept demanding !!! If there had been a run-off area, maybe Revson would have made it. His car caught fire and there was no rescue equipment or fire trucks. There are pictures of Hulme in short sleeves and Hill in his full uniform trying to get to Revson's body. He had no chance. For everyone saved by those armco barriers, another person got killed by them. Helmut Koinegg driving for Surtees was beheaded when he went underneath one of them at the USGP. Cevert was also killed by them, being essentially cut in half. I know Stewart meant well, but lining dangerous corners with them was absurd. I can't believe there wasn't a better way, even way back then.
William - Very interesting points. Yes I agree that run off areas are much better, but of course one of the problems with these old circuits was there was no room for run offs - for example where Cevert crashed there had to be a barrier because that bit of track was above ground - it was called 'The Bridge'. However, another point against barriers is that, as John Surtees recently said, they were deadly for motorbikes, as shown in Monza in 1973 when two riders were killed in one incident. Catch fencing seemed a good compromise, what do you think ?
William - Me again - plus some drivers died becauuse the barriers weren't fitted properly, not because of the barriers themselves - Rindt and Williamson for example - I know Williamson was scandalously allowed to burn in his car but if the barrier hadn't 'given way' when his suspension failed his car would almost certainly not have overturned.
Yes, damn good points. You're right, the barrier that Rindt hit was not far enough flush with the ground, so Rindt's wing went under the lower level of armco and hit a wooden post, immediately stopping the car and ripping off the entire front end. It was so violent that Rindt submarined in the car, going so far forward that he cut his neck on the harness and maybe something else. If he'd had been wearing a 3-point harness as Jackie Stewart wore, he might have lived, but he evidently didn't like them. Still, the injuries to his feet would have been severe enough that he'd have never returned to racing, only staying as long as he did because Chapman promised to give him a car, in the Lotus 72, that truly could bring him the championship; it did, but not before killing him. The mechanics, on Colin's insistence, had drilled too many holes in the front drive shaft that it was weakened and broke, sending Rindt into his spin. I've talked to any number of mechanics for other F-1 teams from that era and they all have told me that mechanics and drivers knew too much lightening of Lotus parts was being done and that some other teams intentionally built their cars stronger and heavier even though it might cost them 1 sec here and there.
MCLaren was damn safe even those days.
whats the average age of these guys?...
How did F1 go from THIS, to the crap they pass off as F1 today?
Ronnie Peterson ?
Hi Name is Ronnie Petterson, PETTERSON .
7:10 The young driver would later say "I made a mistake" Anybody get the reference?
Jody Wrecker
why wasnt jackie in p1 at restart?
only 1 lap raced, re start over full distance
I've always thought that Jackie's first start here was every bit as good as Senna's in Donington in 1973, yet it seems that only Senna's is remembered. What a pillock Raymond Baxter was with his 'Pete' Revson and 'Yody' Scheckter and Francois 'Sevaay' and his constant boring naming of corners because he had nothing interesting to say. Why wasn't Graham Hil simply allowed to do the commentating by himself ? I bet if the wonderful Graham had lived he would have become the main BBC commentator alongside the many other things his awful death prevented him doing.
*1993, you mean.
Randall Dubin Yes I do thank you Randall. I also forgot to mention 'Denny Hooolme'
***** Sorry, you're wrong. It's well known that the 73 Lotus was better than the 73 Tyrrell. Emerson Fittipaldi has said so no TV.
ysgol3 Ye But the Tyrells had fewer reliable issues and that, (along with Stewart's driving skill) brought Stewart to the Title. Fittipaldi and Peterson were great drivers, but I think Stewart was better. Kinda reminds me of Senna's 1991 WC victory, where his McLaren was 2nd best alongside the Williams, but managed to win due to skill and fewer reliablity issues than the Williams cars. Furthermore, Senna was also better skillwise than both Mansell and Patrese, who were great drivers.
+NEW CHANNEL, READ MY FEED Thanks for your interest, sorry I stand by my comment (!) Stewart was also a rainmaster (as in the Nurburgring 1968) and, as I said, Fittipaldi has said on camera that the 73 Tyrrell wasn't as good as the 73 Lotus. When Jackie passed Ronnie at Becketts close watchers could see Ronnie shaking his head in disbelief, indeed there's a lovely film of Ronnie + Jackie chatting before the restart with Ronnie congratulating JYS for his start.
Shit