2013 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro II in Honey Burst
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Yo!! What's up, dudes?!?! Checking out my 2013 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro II in Honey Burst. I'm running through a Panama Loco and into the Two Notes Reload box. For a cab I'm using a Rosen Digital Marshall 4x12 IR and TH2 for the stereo reverb.
--Steve
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That overspray could probably be buffed out with a pedestal buffer, or even careful wet sanding with MicroMesh. The headstock can definitely be repaired with a simple lacquer drop fill. Pickguard could probably be buffed out too, but there's always the option of new pup rings and guard. That would just leave the bobbin overspray, but I'd bet it'll wear off on its own.
I was thinking that because I love to work on guitars but I damn sure wouldn’t pay full price just to take it home and have to fix it.
The guitar got goosebumps and they just won't go away. That's what it looks like.
I just bought 2014 Epiphone Traditional Pro Les Paul (Honeyburst). I've had several Gibson's in the past. But the Epi is an awesome guitar for the money. I have two USA Strats which have been sitting around unplayed because I can't put the Epi down.
I have one too, I set it up really nice and it plays like a dream, and it's CHEAP, so I'm not afraid to bang it around a bit.
Yo Steve, what a bummer! That guitars does look and sound great. But thanks all the same for featuring it!
Beautiful guitar. It obviously sat on a guitar stand in a bedroom close to a womans grooming mirror. The spray appears to be dried hairspray. I have seen this on guitars before. Most modern hairsprays dry like a cement. The specs won't buff off because they tack strongly to the finish. They will however wash off with the gentle application of a lukewarm moistened cloth. It will take some work also. A lot of modern hairsprays dry like a strong epoxy. The good thing is that they are not oil based and won't attack the lacquer finish. Awesome videos PixxyLixx! One of my favorite personalities on CZcams.
It’s a gorgeous,I love the patina I would keep it.plus it’s a chevron top 😍
Great buyer beware story it's a Honey Spray Burst Gibson. The sort of damage that's impossible to see when buying sight unseen. I was worried that you have been on a new guitar buying frenzy and that's not you. Nice sound! If you are to buy another, just stick to your $300 limit and pick up a few more guitars
Oh wow, that is a real shame. I have one of these in Merlot with gold hardware and a 50s neck. Absolutely killer guitar, looks fantastic too. Worth seeking out a good one, they are extremely good value for money! I remember at the time (bought it new) you could get every colour with either a 50s or 60s neck but there was limited stock in the UK so it was first come first served, they disappeared very quickly.
Keep it get some more money off,you can get rid of that over spray
I agree this guitar suits you, great sound and you sound super comfortable playing it
+TheSully807 I agree with both these dudes, get more money off and get a pro to fix the over spray. That LP looks good on you...
Get more money off, buff it out, get new pickup rings and pick guard they are cheap. If you can get it for $1000.00 it would be worth keeping for your playing and beater guitar. You can also upgrade the bridge and tail piece for like $100, which a lot of people do anyway
I had a sg I bought from a guy that had overspray on it took it too my luthier and removed all the overspray.
That spray would have been fine by me for an additional $200 off, I woulda totally hit that, killer guitar
I have a 2013 Les Paul Standard, in Honey Burst (My Profile Pic). It has the 60's profile. So I don't think HB was limited to only 50's profile.
You could try using a clay bar on it first(a lot safer than trying to wet sand it off). Body shops use them all the time to remove overspray. Best of luck either way!
That's a shame cus it's a beaut from a distance. Love that flame on it.
Dude, you get some of the best sounds I've heard anywhere from whatever rig you're using. Guitar rig 5,TH2? Really great man!! Dig your taste of FXs. Badass n Rock on brother 🤘
I think you are doing the right thing by returning it. I bought and sold a 2014 LPTPII for less than that in perfect condition a few months ago. The Pro IIs go for less that the Traditionals due to that satin finished sides and back, AND some people hold the "GC Exclusive" as a negative, although they are a great model. You can do MUCH better. That thing has been abused. I ended up with a Traditional (not Pro) for the slightly fatter neck. You need a Gibson Les Paul in your collection! Lots of great ones out there. Good luck.
Pixxy
Kudos for looking at the best value vs performance model Gibson out there that also includes binding and nibs like the Standard.
I own 3 of this model..a 2012,2013,2014 and they are everything you could want in a Gibson with tone,playing feel and appearance.
I had the hum on my 2012 model and I fixed it by using shielding paint in all the cavities.
If you take out the battery the guitar still works and the boost knob becomes a kill switch.
The other great value Gibbo from around the same time is the Signature T which is similar..but does not have a boost but still gives you the 57 pickups,nibs and splits.
The last three numbers are 522 that's the number of guitars in that run which is high,all the best woods,parts have already been used up.Some guitars with blemishes are called factory seconds,they also most always are high numbers.Peace Out.
That over-spray is a damn shame! That guitar sounds great!
I have a similar guitar, same model but 2012, it has a beautiful plain top, almost perfect, except for some imperfect binding scrapping. But it sounds AMAZING! great guitar, solid, consistent, well built, reliable, no problem at all. But I get this mister, for the money you pay, you expect it to be flawless, specially on the finish.
This would make a great "Gooch of the Week" segment on the Dave's World of Fun Stuff channel.
I have cherry wine red 2013 trad pro. Awesome guitar..Best tone you can get!!
My 2013 Gibson Les Paul Trad PRO 2, in Heritage Cherry Sunburst, has the fat 50's neck profile. I have a 2013 SG Standard that has the slim 60's neck profile. Trust me, the 2013 Heritage Cherry Sunburst finish Trad PRO 2 has the 50's neck profile.
Are you completely sure it's some sort of spray? I've purchased vintage (and even newer) guitars with big dust globs (which look similar) built up simply from exposure, and it never comes off with silicone-free polish. The trick is a plain white toothpaste (none of the fancy flavors or enhancements). Apply just a pea-sized amount per side, spread around with a paper towel, let it sit for a couple of minutes, remove with a damp paper towel, quickly dry with a paper towel or clean cloth, and quickly apply polish. That's always worked for me, so you might as well try it!
The 2015 LPJ is an awesome guitar. I Think a lot of people were put off by the 12 fret inlay, but they are excellent guitars. And I got mine for £325 used the SAME YEAR it came out from Andertons. Which means that the set up was outstading.
Boston English:
Tuner = Tuna
Tunah = Tuner
Go figah....
At 9:06 I get what your saying. My 2012 Gibson Les Paul Studio also makes that non stop humming, but when I plugged in my Jackson it went away. I think it may be a Gibson thing, but isn't a humbucker suppose to "buck" the hum haha.
Try to get a 2013 LP standard, the specs on those are really good
+CanOfPeas Why? Interested to know your opinion. I've heard they have a lot of tone/feel issues from guitar to guitar.
That guitar sounds amazing
The over spray is not a big issue, you can sand it with a 1000, 1500 and 2000 water sand paper and the just brush up it, you won't damage the finish laquer.
I picked up a mint 2011 Gold Top studio 50s tribute for 599 there and I am very happy.
+Michael Collings wut?? where?
gc used right on the rack. I even went home overnight and it was still there in the am
+Michael Collings you took a real chance going home. I've fucked myself like that before.
I know lol , I wasn't even looking for one so I left pondering and researching. Then followed by panic attacks and not believing I didn't buy it.
Luckily it was like a tues afternoon to wed morning I went back . If it was the weekend it would have been gone.
I completely understand you're wanting to return it. But to me, that's a guitar I would buy and use as a workhorse, I wouldn't even worry about resale. you wouldn't be afraid to ding it up
A light polishing with Laquer thinner will clean off the overspray just don't rub too hard and deep. You want to just press firmly enough to wipe off the surface crap (overspray). Use the Laquer thinner sparingly. Hope that helps. It should come clean pretty quickly. Do that and get GC to refund a few more "C" notes back into your pocket.
I'm don't really care much for some finish imperfections in the case of this Les Paul. If the imperfection does not impede playing capability and it sounds great, I could care less about about the finish. It can easily be buffed out if needed be. If you bought it brand new, than it's a different story.
I bought pickups and wiring (including pots & jack) of eBay that were taken out of the same model guitar. The guy who sold them to me said that when he took out the pickups he was shocked to find ground wire from the bridge wasn't connected. So it could be the same on this hence the hum.
Well that's an absolute shame, a stunning finish from afar. I'm keeping a screenshot of this for future reference when looking for a Les Paul haha.
2013 was a really good year. No end of really great sounding guitars that year. Quality was shit but the tone was ace. Good batch of mahogany I guess. Its kinda weird actually - as that guitar has the same 'tone' as my 2013 does even though my 2013 was a deluxe. Its very distinctive.
I got a 2014 Traditional and I absolutely love it... I totally get what you're saying about the 50's neck, I love it too.
I got mine brand new... and I plan to look after it for a long time, I hate those problems on the headstock.... or the spray... I just hate it.... I could not stand looking and feeling that every time I picked it up to play it, so...... get rid of it.
Out of curiosity.... have you ever tried an Edwards Les Paul???? really good and CHEAP for the quality level, by far... the best Les Paul ever to be made other than Gibson
Replacement? ...Firebird!
Glad you made the video. That guitar was clearly owned by some with literally more money than sense. What a shame.
I mean, it’s a used guitar. All of that adds to its story. Plus you had the guitar so close to the camera and you could still barely see the overspray it’s not that important. But if it is to you take it to a luthier and get it buffed out. 1300 bucks for a Les Paul traditional is a great deal! I would deal with the little bumps and bruises that it has for that price. I have the exact same traditional as the cherry burst you talked about in this video. They are great guitars!
Steve, the very first video that I ever saw of you, was you playing a Chibson Les Paul. Your tone was absolutely massive! I was hooked! I couldn't help but notice that with this Les Paul, it was evident that you were inspired to play differently what what I've seen you play for quite some time. I think you are more of a Les Paul guy, than you want to admit. And personally, so am I! I think you "need" a Gibson Les Paul.
my 2013 trad pro 2 has the 50's neck profile(thank god)in cherry sunburst.i thought that all the finishes came with either neck.could have been wrong though . I'd definitely keep that les paul as a project guitar. :)
The guitar center that's closest to me which is in Allentown PA has a 2011 standard which is in great shape and a 2008 I believe 1958 reissue on the used wall. You should look into those. The 2011 is marked at $1700 but I'm not sure of what the '58 is marked at. I played the 2011 and its got a larger neck on it. Feels like a 50s neck
Still sounds good. As for the accidental over spray, one day to strip a bit polishing paper & reassemble and you've got a good guitar.
Can't you get a dude to fix the finish???? It's a lovely guitar and you are clearly taken by it. Surely it would not cost that much to get it fixed????
A new Fender Telecaster *AND* a Gibson Les Paul.... your wife really loves you Steve! (or she's not a subscriber and you know how to get the guitars straight into the basement without her seeing!) \m/ :D
Did you try a damp cloth just in case it's a water based overspray?
I suspect in the right hands that would clean right up... It would be a PITA, but it would clean and buff nice.
Sure sounds good.
I couldn't keep it either, it would definitely bug me. I was fortunate enough to buy an LP (2016 Plain top Traditional) and friggin love it. Although I never plan on selling it, resell value still matters to me if you shell out that much for a guitar. You could complain get em to come down more and fix it, it does sound great. Love your vids man!
One telecaster and a les paul in less than a month? Holy shit, deep pockets sir...and a Wonderful wonderful wife lol
+The Cantrell Project the wife part is just as important as the funds...lol
Pix....get another Les Paul. That Paul suits you to a T. That's the best sound I have ever heard coming from your fingers. Spend the money. Sell something! Much love.
It sure looks beautiful.
Push-push! Wow damn! I didn't get that on my 2017 standard. Honestly though, I only use that true bypass one that it has, or whatever that control is. Then only rarely. There's a million of sounds in that guitar if you just use the selector switch + volumes and tones.
Buy an SG. I bought the limited edition SG standard in aged cherry and maple neck for real cheap off Craigslist. Only used 11 months and nothing wrong with it except some scratches which are only visible up close.
Great sounding les Paul. I'd keep it and ask for more of a discount. The guitar was probably a satin finish all over which is why they tried to spray the gloss lacquer on it. If they had only done it properly
Maybe try out some clay bar and lube to get some of that over spray off. It usually works well on car finishes but not too sure on guitar finishes..
that over spray problem is an easy fix!! take a very fine wetsanding paper , then wax and buff it out. good as new !!
get a Cort CR250 for your next axe!!! I bought one few months back. happiest purchase in a long time!
I just bought a new studio. Pick it up Monday!!!
Keep looking for a gibson. I actually started looking to add one to the stable too. I also think I see to much road rash on it for that price.
Fretboard have spay on it? I had a late 1990's Les Paul JR. I loved that was the only Gibson I bought.
Breathe Steve breathe 🤟🏽
Beautiful sounding Gibby! I got that one plus 4 more, Luv them...It would of been worth it to get it refinished for $500. Awesomeness flamed top! \m/ \m/
Ya know, after watching this video it was making me wonder because years ago my mother had these battery operated air fresheners, and every so often they'd automatically spray air freshener, and I remember having a couple of CD's laying around, and that spray would do the exact same thing as on that Les Paul, and I could NOT get those spray marks off of the CD's for anything. They wouldn't play either, they were ruined, so I'm wondering if this guitar could've been the victim of something like that????? I'd really hate to think someone would be dumb enough to spray a lacquer or something that close to a $2,000 guitar, but I'm sure there's plenty of people that dumb lol, but it still makes me wonder if that guitar was a victim of those damn air fresheners.
I had the same problem with finding a used LP on GC used. I ordered a 2008 Gibson LP Standard Silverburst Limited Edition and it came in horrid shape. I ordered a few more traditionals after that and still nothing. I even found a GC that was selling one that was used as a brand new, out of the box guitar, and that was the end of it. I bought a Gibson SG Standard 120 in heritage cherry and I couldn't be happier
+Adam Nihei GC often sells used guitars and tells customers they are new. They usually do this with online or over-the-phone orders. This actually happened to me with a Fender Telecaster that I ordered from GC online.
The guitar had issues with the electronics as well as cosmetic damage. The Fender rep who straightened everything out for me said that he once worked at GC and it was common practice for employees to open up boxes to play new guitars they were interested in. They would then box them back up and sell them as new.
My guess is, my Tele was damaged by an employee. It took me ordering THREE Teles before they got me one with no flaws, still sealed in the original Fender factory box, and giving me a HUGE discount as well as a bunch of GC store credit.
I wonder if the gunk on the Trad Pro II in this video is nothing more than soda that an employee accidentally sprayed onto it while goofing around in the storeroom.
+nitegoat1369 I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I have nothing against GC, but I've had more bad experiences than good. I remember I called up a GC store inquiring about a Gibson LP Traditional II that was listed in 'New' condition on GC's website and the sales rep who I talked to said joyfully "Yea! It's a new guitar, it was just returned by someone by its previous owner." Like what? I'm paying a new price premium for a used instrument?
Honestly I'd rather deal with online only websites such as MusiciansFriend or Sweetwater and risk having to return the instrument (no problem with their friendly return policies) than deal with GC's in store service. My SG I got from a smaller website called American Musical Supply was only opened up so that the website could take actual pictures of the instrument to post online. When I received it, the instrument came in its original box without a single fingerprint to be seen. I'm never had problems with online purchases for musical gear.
+Adam Nihei I swear, GC hires idiots for the sake of plausible deniability.
Im surprised that you didn't notice that when you first tried it out Steve.
That really sucks that the previous owner ruined such a gorgeous guitar.... is there no way to remove the lacquer without damaging the finish?
I'm in the market for a new ax, but can't decide. I presently play a Strat. Out of the two you have in the video, (minus the overspray issue) which guitar do you prefer? The Gibson Les Paul Trad or the Fender Telecaster?
Damn shame that was a nice finish 2 at least u can look for another I am sure Nick in the states is selling his exact same model in Inverness green I think someone in the comments mentioned it 2 it's awesome
if that came like that and wasn't disclosed they have to refund your shipping cost. I hope they gave it back to you. I've had issues buying from GC used and they've always refunded the shipping cost if there was an issue that wasn't disclosed
I've gotten some great deals on GC used but then there are others that just didn't pan out. They seem to have very little interest in accurate disclosure. I'd never buy a used Gibson Les Paul without touching it first in person.
Is it me or did that overspray affect the sound? Just didn't sound as warm as a typical les paul to me.. we will never know though
+Peter Dunbar No I don't think it affected the sound. I think its the effects and the crunch of the amp making it sound a little sharper
Last thing if you ever see anything from Cheektowaga, or Buffalo GC , let me know I can always check it out for ya....👍
I have the same in tea burst. Nice guitar.
Thanks for the review..... Great sound setup!
Still is a good looking guitar! and sounds nice.
If the tone is right, why can't the cosmetics be ignored? you may get another discount from GC when pointing out the defect. As a collector, I would understand that the guitar should be perfect, but as a player?
That would buff out with some 3M Finesse polish. If I got a REALLY good deal on the guitar, I wouldn't mind fixing those things.
You should just get another Ibanez. They never let you down. :-) Or an ESP. Some great new ESPs on sale right now (MH1000 series) for about half price. Really pretty guitars.
Love the honey burst, if you get another one...make sure its a honey burst. hahahahah
That Hum would drive me crazy lol
The logo looks like a tuner scratched it. It's a shame,
you look good with a LP !
I got screwed on a used Les Paul from Guitar Center recently too bro. I was told it was in Mint condition, but the thing had been worked on and it wasn't even the right guitar...
What amp and pedal would you have to get to make a Gibson Les Paul not sound like a Gibson Les Paul?
that's a shame, I haven't had any luck with guitar center either, all I get from them is used peddles and effects, new subscriber here, saw you on TTK a week or so ago
RIP LES PAUL
I'd have kept it. That can be fixed for that price.
think it could be hairspray? try wiping it off with damp towel?
Hey Pixxy, have you heard of Edwards LP's? Might want to check them out.
is it possible to fix it? like remove the over spray with super fine sand paper, then buff out the nitrocellulose underneath?
That Tele is awesome.
hey pixxy ...have you ever tried any of the Brownsville les pauls...the nicer one with the inlays and binding...I know there cheap....like to know your opinion ...on feel playability ....thanks
Hey dude, I've got a question about Les Paul's. I have a 1969 Deluxe Gold top (the one in my profile pic) and I recently found out that it was a "pancake body" with a 3 piece neck. Does that make it less expensive then a solid body? I've found ones on ebay for 7,000 dollars in worse shape than mine but I don't know if they are solid body's or "pancake body's".
buff it out bruh! sounds fantastic!!!
the new sg's are great for the money
The guitar is not ruined just the finish. That can be corrected.
i've heard more expensive "new" les paul's sound half as good as yours.
What about another Prestige Ibanez of some sort? Or hell, maybe even something crazy like a USRG.
My 2014 Trad Pro II (50's neck) is one of the finest guitars I have ever played or heard. Mine was still sealed with the "blue tape" in the box. It seems Gibson got it right with the Trad Pro II.
That's a REAL drag that GC didn't tell you about whatever that gunk is that's all over your guitar. They should hook you up with a new Trad Pro II for the same price you paid for the damaged one they sold you. Or, they should drop the price to $800 and you could keep it and take it to a luthier and have them remove the gunk. It's really a shame because the guitar in your video sounds great, except for the loud hum/white noise.
Could just be the wiring in whichever room you were shooting the video. I know my Trad Pro II makes a lot of noise in my spare bedroom, but is completely silent in my living room. It was also completely silent in the 'Platinum Room' at GC. I thought maybe it was the battery causing the noise from mine, so I removed it, and it didn't make any difference. So I plugged in my my 2009 Gibson Traditional, and it too was hissing like a cobra. The wiring in my spare bedroom must just be for shit. Good luck with everything.
Did you not call them first before ordering it I always do that and make them send pictures to my phone
+Bierce88 I did. I even asked how it looked. After a little pause he said "Great." :/
yea thats why I force them to send me close ups if they dont im not interested
suprised isn't the word!! it's nice though!