Are Americans Facing Unfair Work Conditions? Ramsey Show Reacts
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Why is he shaming people for having multiple work from home jobs? Isn't this the same man that tells you to work a second job as a delivery driver to get out of debt?
Because he views you as his property :)
because he is a rich out of touch infant in the body of a 70 year old man. He's been utterly spoiled for Decades and people still listen to him?!?
@@briannerk3373 That's because he's mostly right about debt and investing early and often as possible.
@@briannerk3373 Ramsey has good advice for getting out of debt. Once you are, drop him. Absolutely right heâs an out-of-touch boomer
@@briannerk3373 The only things that we agree with him is about debt especially cars as people disregard global warming and borrow money for a big gas guzzling SUV that not only affects global warming, but their own bank accounts...
Itâs illegal to fire people for attempting to organize a union. Unsurprisingly, Dave doesnât mind breaking the law if itâs in his personal interest
He didn't say anything about firing anyone for forming a union. He said if his workers unionized he would shut the business down.
@@howardshowens8263 That is also illegal. Retaliation.
Dave was taking about Proverbs 10:26. Look it up.
How come a CEO owning multiple companies is ok but a salary worker having multiple jobs isn't?
Yes!
If he's not performing, giving his full attention to each employer, it's hard to gauge performance, especially in the beginning few months of onboarding at a new job.
Dave comes from a state where plantation owners could own multiple slaves..
yep, they all sit on 50 or more boards collecting checks from each.
If you were to look at it from Daveâs POV his stance would be he isnât stealing because the effort he puts into one of his companies is his decision of what to allocate to a business is his resources that he owns so he isnât stealing from himself. Whereas an emoloyee is paid to work for the forty hours youâve paid them for assumed for their full efforts for those hours which isnât truly possible if youâre working multiple jobs at the same time. Now if you agree or not is up to you but that would be how he would see it. For me an employer who pays at a level where somebody feels the need to have another full time job is problematic
As a Christian Iâm disappointed in Dave. So someone who has the same productivity but has more time with his family is a scumbag? Someone who can still have the same productivity but has a side hustle to be a ceo one day or support his family is a scumbag? Come on Dave.
There is a difference in being a Christian who asks, âWhat would Jesus do?â to their conscience and a âChristianâ like Dave Ramsey, who are nothing but the Bible thumpers who read Bible to cherry pick quotes to fit their agenda. The formers are good people. The latter are bad people.
*I think* he was referring to the fact that there have been several news articles, and people on CZcams even, posting that they were working two full-blown full-time W2 jobs simultaneously! They were effectively stealing from both employers! As they are being paid for 40 hours of work a week. To work 40 hours for an employer, and work for another employer at the same time, is theft. Now, I support Working from home entirely! But it's those few that kill it for the rest of us.
@@aschmitt89 â How is it stealing if both employers are getting their tasks they are paying for done by someone in a single workday? Why does it matter as long as the work is being done?
If an entrepreneur hustles and juggles multiple tasks and jobs theyâre considered a hardworking genius. If a worker does it, itâs considered stealing. Is it stealing if a CEO is on multiple company boards? How about freelancers that juggle multiple clients? See the Hypocrisy?
@@aschmitt89 as long as they are producing the outcomes that are expected how could it be stealing? No outcomes equals performance plan/being fired no matter what the reason. Thanks for your reply.
@@aschmitt89 Most WFH jobs are salary based employment. That means you're not paid based on 40 hours a week.
As an employer, I have responsibility to my profit margins. I pay my workers enough that they would work hard for me.
As a worker, I have every incentive to get as much money with as minimal labor as possible.
Itâs perfectly capitalistic for a worker to get as much as possible from their resources.
I work from home and I work more NOW than I did going into the office. The kind of role and company I work for would not allow for me to slack off nor it is my personality. I like results and I like to make a difference. Dave, seriously the anti work from home sleuth is getting a little old.
I agree and was thinking the sane thing. I work more now than I did in the office. Responsibilities and process has changed causing additional workload.
I work way more from home too - about 25% to 50% more. Some people are talking advantage but how does Dave support that? Maybe he doesn't know how to use a computer. Employers can see when work is done or isn't, it is pretty obvious.
You work more from home because you cut out longer commutes and you're more refreshed to work. He's sounding like a boomer.
It works for some and not for others. We had workers at my company which seemed to be half assing their work. It felt like they where either playing video games or working another job from home. Some people its great.
@@stevenporter863 It is a little thing called stats. Your personal experience does not reflect the whole.
Read the title and immediately knew what Dave was going to say. đ€·đœââïž
I expected him to dance around the answer quite a bit and hint towards "people dont wanna work these days" because he's a cheap capitalist business man.... He danced the night away lol
Sounds awful to work there
@@jcman240 yep and high turnover at Ramsey
I'd like to remind everyone that most CEOs and business owners can manage and own multiple businesses and ventures. If CEOs can work at multiple companies and have massive incomes from each, I think it's only fair that workers should get to work at multiple jobs at the same time.
There's a difference between holding down multiple jobs and actually being on the clock for multiple jobs at the same time. Clock out of one job before clocking in for the other. This is not what some people exploiting WFH are doing. I have no problem with WFH, but there are people who abuse it. There should not a an overlap between "shifts" you work.
It's unethical if your employer expects you to work full time and you are not.
@@jrwntctv8091 If they get their work done then it doesn't matter how many jobs they're doing. CEOs pad the clock like crazy. I remember Elon Musk talking about "working" over 100 hours a week, which is obviously not true. People like Dave Ramsey were given their fortune by their mommy and daddy and have never done an honest days work in their lives.
@@ryuranzou Well that's the biggest load of garbage I've read in a while.
@@raiden031 not to me lol, fuckem
I'll tell you what's unfair work practices. When your employer gives you a payroll check and it bounces every time. Perfect way to solve that is to quit.
Yes, if u have another job..
I had a employer bounce a check one time on me I found another job and they were out of business within a couple months if the company can't make payroll it's a sinking ship and it's time to bail before they take you down with them
@@kbanghart so better to volunteer for free? Working for a company that can't pay you is the same as being unemployed
@@dogguy8603 good point lol. I guess what I meant is, assuming they are still viable and will still pay hopefully soon.
Dave, I'm watching your channel while on the clock working remotely from home.
That's the way you do it đ
What do you do?
@@cerealis_5432 Financial Analyst
I see why I stopped watching this show months ago . Only here because of Joshua Fluke đ€Ł
@@andrewvincent7299 why not a 4 day work week? I believe that America needs more family values, that's why we should support a 4 day work week
You should STILL watch him. He is right. You are a fool and ignorant
I use to take my children to work.
Me too man lol
They are both on each end of the extremes. In most jobs you can't take another full time job without affecting productivity. But also if you're doing enough for both jobs to not get fired, why not? Same with the job hopping thing. I've see friends who successfully job hopped and gotten much higher pay and also some others who have job hopped but they were laid off and have to work their way back on track. So it's really down to the individual person's risk tolerance and luck.
Having multiple work from homes jobs is not stealing from either employer. If you can complete your 40 hour work week in 20 and do another 40 hour work week in 20 hours for another employer, good on you.
@@wordsalad01 nah, that aint capitalism - that aint capitalism at all.
@@wordsalad01 then I'll work somewhere else and you can have someone that will make you wait 40 hours for 20 hours worth of my work.
then increase your rate in which your paid. Charge 20. Pick up another job. and be honest. Thief
@@wordsalad01 the issue is your management. If my work is done, it is done. If I pick my nose for 20 hrs or make money what's the difference? You need better management. You have done 40 hrs worth of work in 20 hrs. Sorry for being productive buddy.
Yeah if you get all of your assignments done on time who cares how long it takes you. Dave should keep that opinion to himself.
Americans work a lot of hours compared to many other countries. No longer possible to live off one income. Now we are forcing mothers back to work because of unaffordable conditions. Sad times. God be with us watch over us all.
This is partly due to our desire to have more and fancier cars, bigger homes, etc. We've increased our lifestyles greater than incomes have increased.
And if we continue down the road we're on, your children will have to start work at 16 to help pay your bills!
@@linuxsurfer2002 When wives stayed home, a house had one bathroom, one TV with an antenna, and one phone. People had very few clothes. Nobody traveled. Going to a restaurant was rare.
Sure beats working in the coal mines like my grandparents
So true , my how times have changed. Anyone remember in the 1970âs there were âparty linesâ and I donât been birthday đ. We shared a line with another family. Now everyone has their OWN phone.
Disagree on the WFH stuff .. No point commuting 2-3 hours a day (plus the $$ to do so) to sit behind a desk in an office full of people I won't interact with anyway when I can just as easily be at a desk at home. And even if Ramsey's is a great place to work, not all other places are.
Plus the office Poltics and đ at the hot đ„” woman
There are people abusing WFH though.
â@@jrwntctv8091 Howso? Honestly, if they get done what needs to get done, who cares? And should that ruin it for those who don't abuse it? And per some of the other comments (which I agree with), what about those who actually do better in a WFH setting? Your point kinda just tells me that that going into an office is punitive.
@@rakeau No it shouldn't ruin it for those who don't abuse it, which is why those who don't abuse it should not tolerate such behaviour.
@@jrwntctv8091 Who gives af though?
Dave needs to get with the times. Modern work is broken so we fix it. Itâs doesnât have to be the way itâs always been, 8-5 with two weeks vacation isnât working. Itâs destroying families, itâs depressing people. more of a hybrid schedule isnât a bad thing
George was so proud of quoting that Proverb and Dave just moved on lol
Enough with the working at home isn't actually working. So out of touch and seeing his model of "must be in my building" as the only model.
Justin Case:
He wants people in his building working, because it gives a reason for the building. His wealth is primarily in commerical real estate. Also residential real estate, but not as much.
@@missireason8998 so his reasoning is entirely selfish - yes that is what we are establishing here.
We work 39 hours per week, 25 days paid vacation, high quality medical cover and full dental, pension
I live in France. Kind of normal here.
Wage in $US?
And what do you own?
Yeah and median income is like $22k a year. Anybody in the US could take 25 days off and make 22k if they wanted to
@@jdtreharne the real difference is that you got a lot of welfare helping you when you are unemployed, sick, old etc... while in US you are on your own. For example I always hear that in US you need a 401k where you need to invest, in Europe in general (at least my own country) we got real pension... We pay a lot of taxes while working for that, but we don't need to think about it, investing etc...
Even if there is something like that it's 100% optional and it is just a plus to the pension.
Most people here don't need to pay for a sanitary insurance, we already pay taxes for that.
You don't ask for days of vacations from your work, it's your right in your contract.
The employer cannot even fire you without a reason and he will need to tell you weeks before.
And while you're unemployed you can go to free courses to be able to work again while the welfare provide...
Almost every public school is good so you don't need a student loan at all.
I'm not saying is the perfect world, but I think I prefer it to the US way.
25 days! Wow. Standard is 10 here.
I don't think the anti work movement is about not working at all, that's unrealistic. I think a lot of it is about the exploitative nature of work many people have to do now to make a living. Some will say "Well get a better job then", but someone still has to do those jobs
More people should make it a big project to quit bad jobs. I had jobs I disliked and stayed at for various reasons. Leaving is better if I don't like it. Improving a bad job or staying because they need me is a bad idea.
Then they should have a title that is a better reflection of what they do. If you are correct about that, the title they have doesn't describe what they do, which means the phrase was coined by an idiot and they went along with it, making them idiots too.
The title is there to trigger boomers.
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@@jrwntctv8091 âWorkreformâ is another very similar community on that site that is basically the same thing
Clearly Dave has never worked a day in an Amazon warehouse.
You donât have to work there if you donât olike it
Thereâs literally nothing stoping you from telling Amazon to F Off and going somewhere else
I work there and im pregnant it has taken a physical toll on my mind, body, and baby. I would have belly pain at work
I worked at one and it was one of the easiest and highest paid job I ever did
Dave IS the Amazon warehouse!
This is how I get to appreciate more that I'm living and working in Europe, where I have 23 days of paid annual leave and paid maternity leave, plus a 40-hour work week.
The US is very backwards when it comes to many things.
I used to work around 40 hours a week and had time to raise my family with plenty of money. In 2022 I am forced to work 72 hours a week with no relief in sight. Management does not care and will fire you in a second if you complain. I'm sorry but Dave is wrong on some of this but right too. Pretty well everyone wants to work and support themselves but not many want to be treated like this.
The con is a low salary so idk.
@@mattd.4133 Find another job then - sheesh
@@MrTmenzo most Americans have a low salary or pay too
Was he helping the lady when he fired her for getting pregnant outside of marriage?
nope, now that baby has to suffer. So much for being "pro-life" huh.
@@dachicagoan8185 you're splitting hairs with that argument. We all know what pro life and pro choice mean.
They have their terms of employment and apparently she broke it.
thats what I was thinking about when he talked about firing. although firing is a negative action, hopefully for her, there was a better job for her somewhere else.
@@JFDSmit-rm6tw You cannot fire a woman for being pregnant even if it is your "terms of employment". The law is the law. DR cannot override the law.
If you are getting paid by the project then how much time you spend on it is irrelevant.
as long as u getur done by the deadline of course
I think most people only listen to Dave these days because he says dumb stuff, and itâs great for their (other content creators) channel ratings.
Working multiple jobs is stealing : Dave Ramsey, Owner of Multiple companies
Where nobody actually works.
What other companies does he own?
Not everyone works for company that does this kinda stuff for them. Especially with shareholder companies.
Then don't work there. Then start a business and become an employer. Oh, did you just want to show up for the paycheck? Well, then it is their house; their rules. Being the change is hard work. Complaining is easy.
Then quit!
@@jonrussell739 Commenting is easy too.
@@jonrussell739 That is not the point.
@@j.hyatt2776 LOL!!!! If they are online why donât they take their own advice?
That is a great quote "Leaders go first" My former job at Louisville Slugger should have taken that advice. They got rid of $10 hr workers while the higher ups kept their salaries
And usually they get big bonuses after those layoffs
@@pagalhokya yup, the Hillerich family didnt lose a dime of their millions but let go loyal workers that made $10 to $15 an hour that worked there for years
Nortel did the same thing.
Go Bats
@@t206kid $10 an hour??? Some of the red States really need to up their minimum wage.
This highlights some of the biggest issues with people who claim to be religious.
The misreading of whatever scripture they allegedly adhere to so they can justify their personal beliefs.
You hear the âJesus what a communistâ line from some people as if his sharing with his local community meant he wanted people to live under a communist dictatorship.
Alternate readings of scripture an inherent feature of Christianity. It's how you end up with all the different sects of the religion - it's the same text and different humans putting their own spin on in it.
Nothing new here. The American worker has been under the bus since 1975. There are very few actual good companies out there.
What are the actual good companies?
@@LittleMopeHead The US military industrial complex
@@jonzehcnas lol until you retire and need healthcare. Or have a family. Or active duty. Lol
Most Americans work for small businesses.
Start your own!
Using the living conditions of palestine vs israel to make your point on work ethic is a bit too greasy for me. There are a billion factors at play in that region of the world and work ethic ranks very low on that list of factors. If that issue could be solved by 'just getting jobs' it wouldn't be a problem. It's a wild over simplification that you didn't need to make in order to make your point. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour Ramsey.
Shows his ignorance on the subject đ
Couldn't say it better myself
Totally agree. Didn't finish the video after that foolish comparison.
@@pagalhokya yea I would never want to work at Ramsey, their turnover is high anyway
Totally agree!
Unemployment is at a 50-year low - the anti-work "movement" is a straw man to allow Dave to rant.
Now do labor participation rate đ
Yeah, after the interview one of their mods gave, I'll bet you want to pretend it was a LARP.
LOL...look at the dude sitting Dave listening to this when he said I will fire someone that voices an opinion outside of what I think...
I missed a whole year with cancer. I lost no pay and my employer took a collection which they matched as a gift. It was enough to meet all my co-pays and deductibles. Back working hard for two years now.
Congratulations on beating cancer đ„°
itâs not about having to work. itâs about the work you put in and then when you need a raise and or promotion they make excuses. tbh inflation itself is a reason itself to give out raises
Try to remember: Nobody owes you anything and nobody is coming to save you except yourself.
Dave relies on thousands of unpaid volunteers to get his work done and build his business, especially within the church. FPU Coaching smells like an MLM
Truth đŁ
How about this Dave, if it weren't for Unions and Strikers no workers would have Sunday off to go to Church. Look it up. It's true.
Effectively dealing with the modern work environment is actually pretty simple for most people: save your money, and don't have kids. That's the only way to get enough downtime to recover from the relentless, unforgiving, soul-crushing, ever more demanding character of modern capitalism.
Oh no! Evil modern capitalism, haha
I'm pretty sure people had it way worse 100, 500, 1000 years ago, and had less food in the fridge, oh wait, they didn't have fridges.
7:45 Dave just thinks people want to B>I>T>C>H and complain because they want to provide for themselves and their families.
And don't worry, saved the video for posterity.
45 million American jobs are going to be automated or outsourced by 2030. Remember that people there's not enough room for all of us to have meaningful work that isn't 50 hours a week in non specialty labor.
This is the biggest threat coming down the road and nobody is talking about it.
The work from home is not stealing if you're getting the work done. For me personally, I did that during the pandemic as an (poor) accountant, and I learned it wasn't for me. I got distracted by my home chores and realizing I needed to cook dinner. For me, I have to be on the job site.
Exactly. It's not for everyone.
He said it's stealing if you work multiple full-time jobs WFH
@@gemalhorne9089 And if you are doing them. It not not stealing.
Dave Ramsey is a multi millionaire through real estate, specifically commerical real estate.
Real estate wealth is how he built, expanded Ramsey Solutions. He is not a baby steps millionaire, this is just the 'product' he sells to buy more real estate, including the land and building that houses Ramsey Solutions.
Working from home impacts commerical real estate negatively. Corporate office space goes empty. He is going to be against working from home, no matter what.
I didn't realize he was so anti union. I should have, but I didn't. Disturbing. I am truly considering no longer watching.
I am in a family of coal miners, and unions have saved their lives from unsafe working conditions ignored by the coal companies. Before the unions, miners had to pay for the tools they used to mine the coal.
Imagine looking at your auto deposited check on your mobile phone, and see the amount less than it should be. When you pull up the check stub, you see deductions for the pens, paper, internet etc.etc. you used while at your employer's office. You don't have these items, they belong to your employer, you were charged a rental fee of sorts to use them to make a profit for your employer. This sh*t is what was done to miners for years. Oh, and they also had to shop in scrip (a token). I could go on, but I am sure you get the point.
@@gemalhorne9089
Doesn't he and his minions (oh, sorry, the other personalities) promote multiple jobs to get out of debt? Hypocritical, conflicting with his own advice, huh.
I work from home. I have two jobs and I am not stealing from them. I perform all of my duties for each employer. Wow. Just absurd.
The problems start where treating people with dignity and respect is less important than profits or even just the leader's ego. His comments about working from home show he doesn't trust his workers and, therefore, doesn't respect them.
Get skilled enough where you don't have to work for dictators.
You should probably move to a nother country where it will be better for you.
Or maybe there shouldnât be dictators at all and there should be common labor laws passed to protect workers.
@@craighendricks2994 Like in the US- we have no dictators and we do have common labor laws.
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Ouch. This is bad. Stick to getting people out of debt.
long answer yes.
The biggest problem is that the corporations do not want to change and get with the times allowing people to telecommute in air commute.
One of the reasons behind this is that there is an economic interest in the property values. The values would go down if people were allowed to telecommute via zoom call or Skype.
Large corporations are taking advantage of that, and getting rid of their real estate.
Itâs very clear Dave has never actually been on or read anti-work Reddit.
It's very clear that Reddit is a waste of time.
@@jrwntctv8091 Dave Ramsey's ramblings are a waste of time
Catholic and Christians go together like fish and fowl. I grew up catholic, my grandmother thought of "christians" protestants as blasphemers.
Dave has a Protestant work ethic and can explain it well. Anyone in the Anti-Work Movement is against the work ethic, along with the unions.
Blasphemer how.
@@jonymanay The right kind of Irish are all Catholic.
@@rebeccalindley153 unions protect workers, tell my family who were teamsters for years and worked hard to bring home a paycheck that they have no work ethic
@@dogguy8603 Unions never protected the workers that I'm aware of, but they are really good at stealing pensions. And, I don't know anything about your family, are they in the anti-work movement?
đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł this was the funniest show Iâve watched so far
I think Dave is assuming the worst here. Most people who are overemployed are not "cheating" their employers, they are simply working every minute of the work day. I had a job where I always finished my work around 1pm, but I had to be in office to answer the phones until 3pm - My boss was totally aware, but I took on client work to fill that time. I was still working and actually worked even harder. I even ended up automating some systems so I'd be done with my "day job" by 11am and took on a 3rd job. This is the reason I was able to get out of debt. Not every job require 100% attention for the full 8 hours. This is becoming more and more common as people work from home and find ways to speed up their deliverables.
Most of us are hired mercenaries. Few really believe in the mission of the company but instead are there to extract value and will leave when a better opportunity presents itself.
There's a place for that. Doesn't work for every company.
I know military vets from marines and army that now live in Bulgaria and other parts that say they have a higher quality of life in Europe then they ever did in the usa. They donât go broke from medical treatment. Guaranteed one month off paid vacation. Great jobs there, and if you have a baby you get more time off with your newborn. America is seriously lagging behind.
Yes and Bulgaria is on the cutting edge of a lot of frontsâŠâŠ.taking it easy gets one mediocre results. It appeals to a lot of people, though.
@@bigpicturethinking5620 who takes it easy? And how does that equate mediocre results?
Bulgaria is at the bottom in the EU standard of living rank. So, no one in Bulgaria has a higher quality of living than in the USA. Not everything is money and what you can buy with it, so a slower pace might work for some people.
Stick to debt counseling Mr. Ramsey and not politics. Itâs easy for Israel to look clean and prosperous when the US gives billions to israel year after year while Palestinians get little to no support and are under occupation. Also as a Christian man, i would think that youâd be against the oppression and murdering of Palestinian Christians instead of praising Israel. Youâve just lost a fan sir.
I mean Dave is an employer, you expect he will come clean with this question ? Lol đ€Šđ»ââïž
I feel bad for George, trying to come up with little jokes and witty remarks to fit in!
George is such an a** kisser. Should be ashamed of himself
Spoken like a man who is worth $500 million lol. Rather shutdown the operation than allow a union lol.
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Notice Dave didn't say he would find out the workers' grievances? Notice he didn't say he would fix things? The formation of a union would just lead to him closing up shop. So much for loving people and helping workers.
Now the world knows how to close Ramsey Solutions, attempt to organize.
He's absolutely right. He owns the company, built it up with blood, sweat and tears.......and has earned the right to do what he wants.
Any entrepreneur would do this. Even the self-righteous people commenting here.
@@ecitygirl410 You won't run a successful business with that attitude
@@ecitygirl410 who is self righteous? If I wanted union, and I wasn't getting it, I would leave and take my talents and go work where I could find one.
@@ecitygirl410 you're correct. Unions are not needed. He keeps workers happy or they would quit and find other jobs especially with the workforce shortage. Unions are just determined to hurt the business and the people running it and took the risk to start the business in the first place.
Dave is right when it comes to loving oneâs workplace, but he left out that corporate America often lays people off just to increase their stock price. Thatâs certainly loving your team well. đđ
Guess its easy to sit in front of a mic and judge others when your parents gave you tens of thousands of dollars to get started.
I think his father gave him a cool million in the 80s to start out with. Dave comes from a rich family. He is not a self-made millionaire. I wish more people knew what we knew about him.
Answer the question mr Ramsey
Imagine taking life advice from a random boomer that got lucky in real estate and now runs a business where he doesn't give inflation raises, but also claims to be a christian.
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That's basically what I expect from the garden variety christian. Arrogance, name calling, endless hypocrisy, constant gymnastics to make excuses for their evil god, and a remarkable indifference to human suffering.
The work place isn't what it used to be that's for sure.
If they're working from home, and you can't tell that they aren't, who cares, Dave? Very different story if you CAN tell, either because their work is subpar or they aren't doing any...but that's no different than working in the office. Surely you can see if/how well the tasks that you assign your workers are getting done, can't you?
That Israel / Palestine example has to be one of the most moronic things I have ever heard.
That's because Dave's stupid religion believes that one group is better than the other. That the evil christian god shows favoritism to the state of Israel. And that the US should also continue to show preferential treatment to the state of Israel.(In the name of his imaginary god.)
When I'm grilling I think of "Don't muzzle the Ox while it treads the grain". Grabbing "test bites" while grilling is biblical đ„łđ„łđ„ł
Boomer Dave at it again with his 1970's ideals. whats up with the shaming people that work from home? ugh dave we're in 2022 now. it's not 1972. come on dave.
He wants it to be 1852
If I'm getting paid to perform a job and **not** simply for the hours in the day, then having more than one job at the same time isn't stealing unless I'm not performing as agreed.
If you work at a car dealerships auto body department you can definitely profit from the way things are billed that makes it similar to me to the guy working 20 hrs and getting paid for 40. There is a standard time allotted for a specific job. If you go over the time allotted to do the repair you still get the same amount of money as the guy next to you that did it in half the time and now that same guy is almost finished with his next car repair and out earning you. Am I making sense? :-)
Spoken like a true millionarie, thank you for showing us your true color
See, you had me until you started talking about working multiple jobs and calling it "stealing." It's not a lack of integrity or "stealing" because the worker is taking into consideration their own financial wealth. Also everybody who WFH doesn't not work, only a few people do. Sounds like you're being a boomer again.
Dave, I mostly agree with you. One question: How do I find time to start a business while I am working full time, and also while not taking away from my productivity at my job?
If you work 40 hours a week then that leaves 128 hours a week to find time to start a business.
@@georgelane9738 We have so much more time than we realize.
I work to live, I don't live to work. Sorry Dave.
Exactly
Why are you apologizing to Dave? Lol
Sorry is for you, not Dave
The people commenting negatively here, donât own a business, or even manage oneâŠI guarantee that. Otherwise, you would think this is the BEST Dave Ramsey rant everâŠI do. Preach it!!!
I own a profitable business and find 90% of Dave's advice moronic, out of date, and self inflating. Using the imaginary christian god as a foundational tool to manipulate desperate people. While being a hypocrite in the process.
They obviously have not read a single post on r/antiwork
There is nothing on reddit that is worth reading.
@@jrwntctv8091 ok?
This is an absolutely absurd Rant by Ramsay. I strongly DIsagree with his analogy and Message here. Like as if Ramsay is not part of multiple Projects. What a joke.
Dave once again speaking on stuff he doesn't know about. Anti-work has nothing to do with people believing they shouldn't work and be given stuff by society (at least the majority of them don't believe this). From my understanding, it involves labor activism and the goal to achieve fair working conditions. People are tired of feeling like wage slaves.
Also, the whole "go find another job" is just like saying "go live somewhere else" when you criticize your country. Not everyone can simply just go get another job for a multitude of reasons just like it's not easy to just get up and immigrate elsewhere. Is it wrong to want to have better working conditions or a better country to live in? No, it's not. So stop using the whole "go find another job" argument.
Donât work there then
@@austinthomas2732 See my reply to myself.
@@safye4 Iâm glad someone said it because They always say be your own boss then like you can creat a Fortune 500 company in a day
@@safye4 When I get hired, I tell My employer, "Be Nice"
If I quit, I will have another job that pays more for doing less
before the sun sets today.
honestly, can you do full time at three jobs? how would the schedule even work. What he is saying is that those jobs will overlap making you choose which one to do. Is easier to get away with it at home than in an office from 9-5. Thatâs what Dave is saying.
there was a commercial for home lock on your show today what do you think of them?
I just knew Dave was gonna go off as soon as I read the title. Lol.
And he was wrong
I think Dave is only considering small busninesses and not these giant corparation which definitely take advantage of people. When a corp gets too big, the employees become numbers on a spreadsheet. There is no love or support. There is no family. Just expenses
If I complete my assigned tasks that were given to me, how is it stealing to have multiple jobs at home??
depends what your contract says. If it goes against your contract, then yes you're stealing. Stealing fundamentally is about consent.
"Your brain is going to rot inside your head!" LoL!
Definitely not. Most Americans don't toil in sweatshops and mines for 14 hours a day making $10 a week. American workers have never been more cozy.
What do you all think about FTO (or Flexible Time Off)? Many companies are switching from PTO to FTO or "unlimited" PTO.
Where can I get a job with unlimited time off? I will put an application in right now. I always wanted a job where I could get paid and never have to go to work.
@@jimdango123456 same herw
@@jimdango123456 I am pretty sure "unlimited" means that as long as you get your done and have obvious contribution to the company, that you can request time off and it isn't counted per day. That's why he put it in quotes. You can usually see this arrangement in a successful startup before they get the corporate structure.
Old man yells at cloud
There is production based pay and time based pay.
Production based pay: People should be paid 40 hours salary for 40 hours of work while meeting quality expectations. If it takes someone 30 or 50 hours to do 40 hours of work, they get paid the same. If the person working 50+ hours wants to work 40 hours, they get paid less. The opposite for the faster worker.
Time-based pay, your ability to do the work faster or not doesnât matter, itâs probably less stressful for most people, but your company owns your time during the hours you work.
Every one I know working from home loves it say they work 20-25 hours of work get paid for a full check lol must be nice mayne they need to get a 2nd 20 hour full time job
â@@laurens.2503 It's not stealing. Please, explain how it's stealing.
If you're getting your work done, you get paid, doesn't matter how long it takes.
If I work 80 hours in a week, on a salary, I get nothing extra. Why would I do more to get paid the same? If I can do my job in less time, I'll do it.
Stop saying ignorant stuff. You're stuck in the past.
@@laurens.2503 oh itâs stealing lol they donât answer the phones do half they work they used to but these companies so desperate they donât say anything
@@laurens.2503 stealing implies that someone has been deprived of their property. So try again and this time show how that situation is depriving someone of their property.
@@safye4 If you are being paid for 40 hrs and only work 20 hrs it is called time theft. Yes, it is stealing. Look it up.
@@k_469 No, getting paid to work 40 hrs and only working 20 hrs is called time theft. It is stealing.
Dave please read the comments and understand that you are an out of touch millionaire. The working people will never be on your side on some of these working class issues because you do not have the right perspective.
That was the biggest rambling answer Iâve ever heard. Didnât address the question at all
I hate working for jobs that if you ask for a bigger ladder they say no I just quit those jobs.
What happened where everyone on the internet is saying Dave "get a second job" Ramsey is telling people that a second job is akin to stealing? This episode blew up like crazy. But he does not even say that.
My dad is at least 3x more productive while working from home. He is in his 60s jsuk
Wow. What a rant. I didnt think I had come across a more out of touch position dripping with dogma then I saw this. You're living in the 1920s, come join us in 2022.
I like also how Dave Ramsey demands unconditional dedication and long hours as if under those conditions, lots of people wouldn't just find a better offer elsewhere. There are always places that pay better than Dave Ramsey style burnout mills.
Well with how Dave speaks whether you agree or not he is open to you leaving if it isnât your fit. And if you look at the hiring process they have in place they are up front about what they expect and what working there is to the point before you even have a job offer they have you show them your budget using what theyâll be paying you and if it doesnât fit they donât hire you. So honestly while his practices are weird and can be concerning thereâs something to be said about the fact that he doesnât hide the ball about it so if you take a job with him you know what houre signing up for and choose if thatâs what you want or not.
Who decides what's fair? For my part, in my working years I learned high-value skills (industrial machinist in high school, then Marine Naval Aviator and CPA, then just CPA) and could always find a job that seemed to offer attractive conditions. (As an aside, in twenty+ years in Naval Aviation I never met anyone like the characters in Top Gun, even though I sometimes flew the aerial refueler for them. My time in little fighter jets showed me that movie-type tactics would be ineffective and even risky at those altitudes, but they look good in a movie.)
Guys just become debt free and then you can job hop without worry pog
My company gives Lifetime Family Healthcare, if you retire after 20 years of employment,
It is called "The Golden Hook".
A $300K benefit.
He talkes about the income inequality in Israel, but I think there may be income inequality in the USA too.. I might be wrong but I'm not sure.
Dave... How is someone working multiple jobs any different than a business owner having multiple businesses?
its all about consent. If you're breaching your contract it really is analogous to stealing
It depends, when a store joins a union and is immediately shut down you could argue that not only is it unfair, its against the law. There are multiple industries such as Trucking and Teaching that are probably unfair and you can see that in number of openings for both positions.
Being a person of faith has little to do with it, businesses are built on gross sales- expenses=profits. We are not slaves, we come to an agreement with an employer that I agree to work for them in exchange for monetary compensation. If I don't like the work conditions or my employer changes the agreement, I can leave and find something else at any time, and I have done so over the course of my career.
As a practicing Catholic for 64 years I can assure you that the 'catholics' to whom you are speaking are misguided. The Church does not promote this viewpoint. What your friends are promoting is called Liberation Theology and this viewpoint has been rejected by the Church. The document Rerum Novarum clearly outlines the moral obligation of the worker to employer and employer to worker, which must be based on mutural respect and love. Jeez, it is so annoying when people get it wrong and make us all look like idiots.
Do you agree with all the children being molested there? Why the church is not sued into oblivion is crazy
@@alinatamashevich3354 good Lord. ALL the children, really??!! Stop with the hyperbole. All institutions, incl. the Churches are guilty of bad actors (priests, ministers, lay workers, etc. etc.) And let us not forget the Public School system. Shall we start counting up the victims there too? Boys and Girls Club, Boy Scouts, afterschool sports programs......
@@alinatamashevich3354 And, NO I do not agree with child abuse. Jeez.
r/antiwork has NOTHING to do with not wanting to work
then perhaps the folks should use different terminology than âanti-work.â
Then it has a stupid name that doesn't reflect what they're about and are going to get judged on that name. Not wanting to work is exactly what the title says and therefore will be the first impression they give others.
Another Dave rant! Maybe he has a guilty conscience. Of being a bully.