What Stryker did to Logan's body
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- What are those screws in Logan's claws? What is the damage his hands take when he protracts his claws? Are there adamantium bullets left in his head? And what the X-rays of his skeleton will tell us. This video answers these and other interesting questions about our old acquaintance Wolverine, don't forget to put a like and enjoy watching.
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What are those screws in Logan's claws? What is the damage his hands take when he protracts his claws? Are there adamantium bullets left in his head? And what the X-rays of his skeleton will tell us. This video answers these and other interesting questions about our old acquaintance Wolverine, don't forget to put a like and enjoy watching.
I wanna know what sharpened those bone claws, there were normal cylindrical shaped bones like bones of fingers, but then they start looking like knives. What sharpened them? What changed their shape?
Logan's healing factor was low to near non-existent because he had Adamantium poisoning which was overwhelming his ability to heal since 90% of the healing factor ability was keeping the poisoning at bay which resulted in why in Logan he was old and he was not healing as fast since by then the Adamantium was breaking down in his body. Adamantium like all metals if left in the body will eventually break down
The “screws”picture is from X-Men 1.
After that, in the comics, Logan lost his adamantium by Magneto, as far as I know and that resulted in that they discovered that his claws were natural and not surgically added to his body….
After that, they had to change that part in the movie-story too, and became much more interesting how his bones were laced with adamantium, and where the adamantium came from.
It’s from a meteorite; it could be as well a part from the Wakandan meteorite: the vibranium that wasn’t as poisonous as the adamantium version, because that one was also found in Africa
@@ernst-janvisscher1366 in marvel 616 his claws were originally bone and a part of his mutation which was an adaptation of the claws being a part of his biology.
i always thought that the reason his healing failed in the movie logan was because his healing factor worsened with age in the movie logan he was almost 200 years old and i believe that his old age combined with his adamantium skeleton now poisoning him was the cause of his healing not being as good as it once was.
also i think the reason his adamantium was slowly killing him was because when he was young and his healing factor was working he would have been immune to the poisoning effect but now not so much.
His claws used to hurt him even when they were bones. The metal just made it all worse and poisoned his body ! Man suffered from beginning to the end of his life!
No shit they hurt, imagine having 3 sharp, pointy things in your arms and every time you wanna use them, they come out piercing through your flesh and any nerves where they’re located. Even if they’re made of wool, that’s still gonna hurt like a mother fucker.
it would have been unnoticeable at first until the metal started breaking down in his body which took decades to happen
@@fangslore9988 The metal isn't what was killing him. His healing ability is so powerful that it's fighting the poisoning non-stop. It's the ''antidote'' in the food and drinks which they implemented to eradicate the X gene that was the reason for his state. It basically slowed down his healing factor considerably.
The metal never poisoned wolverine, he only started to lose his healing factor because of poisoned corn syrup that inhibits mutant abilities.
@@enviousshogun he lost his healing factor which would’ve lead to the metal poisoning.
I have always loved seeing X-rays of Logan’s claws, the way they tear through the bone and muscle has always been simultaneously disgusting and cool as fuck.
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They never tear his bones. They only tear his muscles and tendons..... You clearly didn't read the comics 😂
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Along with Logan’s accelerated healing, he also has an innate ability to spike his adrenaline increasing his speed, strength, and X factor ability, as well making pain irrelevant. He was a perfect subject for the program
Is that his berserker rage thing?
fun fact Wolverine's mutant X gene made him closer to being a wolf or other predatory animal genetically than other humans including animalistic secondary mutations including a much stronger self-preservation instinct as well as heightened sense of smell, hearing and visual equity giving him much better vision than humans this also allows him to see perfectly in the dark without needing torches or night vision goggles he basically has night vision LMAO
Read the Weapon X graphic novel sometime and it’s more from the scientists perspective when working on him and the body horror aspect is intense
Humans can also spike adrenaline :) learn if you wanna. its useful rarely.. unless you do parkour or stuntwork. then its very useful
just dont overdue it and become an addict
@@heroicsquirrel3195 technically yes.. but that was adrenaline rusher under usage of mushrooms during battle lol
I’ll never forget how they had Logan bloodied and horrified at his new claws in the flashbacks of the OG X-Men Movies, and then in Origins he just walks out and looks at them like “huh, how bout that”.
Logan is suffering from amnesia, and those scenes are dreams not flashbacks. What little he can remember is all twisted together with his confused horror at what he's had to suffer through since losing his memory, and his assumption that no one would go through that willingly. Imagination makes half-remembered trauma worse.
@@dahken417...or they were actual flashbacks, and a different director decided "screw continuity" (which ironically could've been the catchphrase of the franchise).
@@iceman00behave I'm giving you an in-universe explanation. Who gives a crap what the director thought about continuity?
@@dahken417he had those flashbacks the moment he entered the pool chamber. He started to remember
@dahken417 because it's actually a retcon, like many things in X-men. to say that they were dreams, that's not been established in the movies
The amount of pain that Wolverine has endured would be beyond anyone else.
And the pain he's gone through has to give him some mental strength we can't fathom.
How he's not as insane as Deadpool says something about that mental strength also.
I believe that the reason he is able to go through those mental things is because his healing factor heals his memory too. (Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe I read or heard it somewhere)
Wolverine survived being Gassed and a Atomic bomb. The Adamantium rip from his Skeleton.
now imagine the pain frank castle endured and hes a normal human being 😂
@@VIRGINCYCLOPStrue man. Frank is a beast, marine vet, and now a vigilante which is a label he didn't want but the label he got, like daredevil, murdock didn't choose daredevil but hells kitchen called him that and he accepted it. Frank didn't call himself the punisher but it's what the people call him and he accepts it. Frank has been through a lot
I think it's more plausible that the claws with the screws are a practical set Hugh Jackman was using while filming and never intended for a closeup. This was before the advent of Blu-ray and 4K television made super detailed scrutiny possible.
I love this explanation because it sounds like such a classic movie making quirk that fans or subsequent writing dont know any better and ends up incorporating as part of the lore.
It's this. LMAO. They're not in any of the other movies.
Especially since the screws aren’t present in other films, along with the exact claw designs repeatedly changing until The Wolverine and Days Of Future Past established a set design kept by future installments, including the latest Deadpool film involving an alternate version of the character.
This is the real explanation lmao, they were screwed onto the rig that makes them appear to "bend" from magnetos powers. They simply have screws because they had to attach it to the animatronic and thought they wouldn't show up on film
I mean film has more details than digital and this was in theaters
Rogue: "when they come out, does it hurt?"
Wolverine: *"EVERYTIME."*
Damn Right.💯🙌🏽😤😮💨😌
Dumbledor said calmly
I think that’s one of the main reasons I love Wolverine as a character half his ability is body horror
2:13 Which is why Logan is the only one who's able to survive such a procedure, his regeneration is working on overdrive trying to keep him alive, and he almost did die during the procedure.
What bout lady deathstrike or victor creed?
@@Cool_story_bro_nobody_cares well they have the same abilities as logan anyway lol
@@Cool_story_bro_nobody_caresin x-men origins Wolverine victor was told he would die that his body wouldn’t be able to take it. In the comics I don’t think sabretooth was ever interested in the experiment
Yeah, it's clear the writers of the first and second X-Men movies were going with the claws being artificial implants which is far more brutal and traumatic than just coating his bones. They full on surgically twisted and distorted his body like nazi scientist all because he could heal. Now that's horrifying. It's actually implied that they're not naturally a part of him when in a flash back he's screaming in horror at the sight of them. They were obviously going with the pre 1993 comics before Magneto stripped his metal. I'm thinking that they may have not even known?
The Origin comic came out after the first movie, and I’m pretty sure that’s the first time it was explained that Logan had bone claws originally.
I’m fairly certain they were originally going with the idea that the claws were implants, because Stryker even said in X2 “you were an animal then, you’re an animal now, I just gave you claws”.
Pretty nonsensical to say if he already had them.
@@alexman378well, if the claws originally were just bone and easily broken like we see in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, then Stryker would’ve given him claws that are actually deadly weapons on a massive scale
@@Gibbypastrami That’s different. That would be “I just gave you *stronger* claws”. The way he phrased it, was as if they didn’t exist before.
Take th claws with a grain of salt IMHO. I personally like that he had them originally as bone. But not everyone does and he has been retconned to he'll and bad
Well, his original "claws" had very little slashing capabilities.
Only in more recent examples has his bone claws been depicted as bladed.
In most versions after the bone claws origin, they're more or less foot long bone spikes.
So striker saying "I just gave you claws" makes sense. As now he's able to use them is a slashing fashion, as opposed to needing to directly hit his target.
In origins, he's seen mostly using the bone to puncture things, preferring to throw his body weight into each blow for full penetration.
After his skeleton is bonded, he begins using the blades more to swipe and cut through things.
It's awesome you are one of the few people to get it correct about the genetically altered corn syrup weakening Logan and not Adamantium poisoning. Also, there was one unfired adamantium bullet left in the gun Stryker shot Logan with. Though it was never shown, more than likely that is the bullet Logan kept with him all those years.
A theory is that his body constantly fights against his adamantium, which in turn put his healing factor in overdrive and made it fail on him.
I always thought it was a mix of both
@mariushaeberle85 this is what I believed. That the GMO corn syrup weakened Logans healing ability to where the adamntium actually began to poison and weaken him.
actually it was the adamantium the altered corn syrup doesn't affect mutants with healing factors due to their immunity to poisons. the adamantium was breaking down in his very body causing metal poisoning which his body would try to heal and as it progressed it would have overwhelmed his body's natural ability to heal since he would have been fighting fatal levels of adamantium poisoning at that point in his life. he even said he already knew what was killing him as he rubbed his knuckles, he didn't know about the corn syrup at that point implying it was severe metal poisoning since all metals break down eventually and when they start breaking down they will then break down faster and faster as time goes on, this is proven through titanium hip replacements
@@fangslore9988 yeah but later on the guy explains to him how it's in all energy drinks and other food items. Just because he didn't know about it before it doesn't mean that it wasn't affecting his healing ability.
@@cyclonehebb06rt it doesn't shut down powers it prevents the X-gene from being present in infants, they never said it takes away their powers, and remember all the food Logan was eating Caliban and Xavia was eating, and Xavia was suffering the accumulated effects of over-using cerebro during the crisis trying to track down mutants. the mutant population was also hunted by the company to create a mutant blood bank to clone mutants for the weapon X program's revival. if it could cure mutants of their powers than Xavia would have lost his powers and the same with Caliban which didn't happen.
Dr. Rice: I believe you know my father from the Weapon X Program.
Logan: Yeah. He's the asshole who put this poison in me. I think I might've killed him.
yes, Logan knew very well that the Adamantium was killing him, metal does break down in the human body and metal degenerates as it breaks down so longer its there the faster the process happens if Logan didn't have a healing factor the metal poisoning most likely be deadly
@@fangslore9988 What if Vibranium was implanted inside of Logan?
@davekisman2763 Isn't Adamantium stronger than Vibranium?
@@TheGoldenSwitch I don't think so. It's been seen inside Stryker's lab that adamantium can be kept past its boiling point quite easily, in a small vat. also, in Wolverine (the one in Japan), it was seen that an adamantium blade, just heated to red hot, cut through adamantium like it's nothing.
On the other hand, look at Ultron's Vibraniun form in Age of Ultron. Towards the end of the final fight, Ultron takes Iron Man's repulsors, Thor's lightning, and Vision's mind stone beam head on, and the metal is only just then starting to melt.
I don't know much about toughness, and I've not read the comics for either franchise, but if Vibranium has a much higher melting point than Adamantium, it can be assumed it's an overall tougher material.
@@TheGoldenSwitch in the comics adamantium is an alloy made from Vibranium
Did they ever elaborate on how the adamantium transformed Logans bone claws into fully sharpened blades?
Or is that just a cool thing nobody ever questioned?
His original claws were more like giant pointy fingerbones, not sharpened blades like a knife.
In the original weapon x comics it was visually explained, as when Logan first came to after the adamantium process, his claws were spiny and bony, just metallic, and the scientists, after observing the claws, decided to forcibly hold his claws out while he was semi conscious to sharpen them, and to implant control devices in him, and from that point forward in the comics, his claws had the knife-sharp look.
That xray shot of his claws coming out is one of my favorite shots in film history. When i saw that in theaters i was amazed. Felt like i could understand the pain he feels.
Great video. Ngl Wolverine definitely had a lot of pain during the Logan movie. Almost every single day he would have to wipe the blood off before retracting the claws injuring his hand in the process.
not just that but metal poisoning from the decay of his adamantium skeleton enhancement must of had a lot of other symptoms. he a few times looked like he was also ready to be sick
@@fangslore9988 True.
Logan's got to be the coolest superhero whose powers nobody wants
What?! I mean if we are talking strictly just his powers I don't know who wouldn't be signing up for healing factor and bone claws. I mean you don't have to use the bone claws if it is extremely painful but I would rather have bone claws and not need to use them over not having bone claws and find myself in a situation that calls for bone claws.
I'd rather have his powers than Daredevil's.
We know they didn’t remove his bone claws and they were coated with adamantium as they grow back through the remains of the metal ones that were cut off in the Wolverine.
Yeah and his skeleton can grow back (because it’s a part of his bones and mutation now.) This guy just wants to believe his own theories lol
yeah but the wolverine was done by different people
I feel like the second xman movie, Logan had organic claws. They were shaved down slightly, and acid etch them, letting what ever structure or coating placed around it to fully bond with the bone. Basically veneers from hell
I prefer how in the comics the claws ejected from above his fingers not between the fingers.
facts. His healing was better in Clairmont days & more grounded.
Looks like everything else peaking in the 90's.
Nah. It doesn’t make sense. Coming between. Makes more sense
@@chespiarce00and looks more evenly distributed across the hand.
@@chespiarce00Mutant powers don't make sense but we love it anyway.
To each their own I guess. But looking at how the claws would realistically look like leaving his hands, I feel they went with the best visual representation of his claws popping. It would look weird coming out the top, but you also have to keep in mind his claws were curved then. With his straighter claws, it makes sense for them to come out between his knuckles. It's in a more secure place and looks sturdier
Isn’t the whole point that Wolverine was able to get the adamantium is because of his healing factor being so strong? So even if it fills the bone, his healing factor essentially ensures that only the bone is bonded and his marrow is kept safe
I believe it's theorized a few times that his healing factor relies on his bone marrow, like the OP said in the video with the clone, they fucked his healing up I think by letting it into the marrow. Our bone marrow is where all the info and stem cells are stored, all the stuff Logans body needs to know how to regenerate the damaged cells of any injury, and what state they were in immediately before injury. Thats how I've often seen the regrowth of his hair and beard to his normal style explained, cause how would the healing factor know, and why would it grow the hair beyond just the follicles, since the hair outside the body is just useless tissue and such
I prefer the version where Logan has bone claws which are removed and adamantium blades are attached to where the claws should be
That’s literally not what happened. Wolverines claws are part of his mutation. He can regrow bone, bone=skeleton, skeleton=adamantium
In Wolverine, after cutting of his adamantium claws, you can see that there is still bone inside the claws
This is why the scene of his claws getting cut off in The Wolverine always confused me, because after that, he still has the bone claws. It’s not like Stryker gave him new claws made of metal, he just coated the bones in metal, so wouldn’t he lose his bone claws too? Maybe I’m just an idiot, but that always frustrated me.
I'm pretty sure he did lose his bone claws but I think it's implied that later magneto and Xavier repaired it or something. Idk I always hated that too tbh
He have regeneration.
@@faiz5456the problem is the adamantium itself, we are not shown or it isn't implied that he can regenerate his adamantium skeleton in the movies (maybe he was able to at some point in the comics, haven't caught up on my X-Men) so while there is a possibility that he can regenerate his claws, it would just be the bone version of it unless the adamantium has fully integrated itself to his bones in a perfect symbiosis of sorts on the cellular level
@@mateushenriquepinheiro3197I actually remember something along those lines where eventually after the adamantium was inside of logan for so long his healing factor converted it into this organic version of adamantium called adamantium beta I think.
The claws were coated with the adamantium, so when the claws where cut off, the bone claws inside the coating were now free to grow, so they grew back out of the holes left behind from being cut in half in the first place
John - What did they do to you, man?
Logan - Don't ask.
I like to think that at least in comics, part of Logans mutation is that the bones, muscles and tissues of his fore arms are arranged in a way thay the claws can come out without destroying his wrists and fore arms.
That was always how I'd presumed it worked too
I thought that the adamantium sealing his bones inhibited his white blood cell production, which is used to fight infection.
His healing factor compensated for the reduced natural healing, but as the modified foods suppressed his healing factor, he was slowly dying.
Ironically had he chosen to go to Canada, or live on the boat, eating healthier would have allowed his healing factor to return.
Now that you mention it, his wrists would swell when he uses his claws, and his forearms would be massive compared to normal people (muscle movement dedicated to extending and retracting the claws)
he most likely had adapted to the pain while still there it would be not as painful
The adamantium bullets were a profoundly stupid idea. If adamantium bullets could penetrate adamantium, his claws would cut through the adamantium coating of his bones on the way out as opposed to pushing the bones out of the way.
its a comic book character
@@alexhodder4918 no shit, Sherlock...
Force from a fired projectile is stronger than force from moving muscle.
I never liked the adamantium bullets because the comics gave a much better explanation to how he lost his memory.
The Weapon X comic and novel detailed about how he was found outside of a bar, given enough tranquilizer to kill several elephants, kept in a tank while they kept him under. He was injected with nano technology first before the adamantium to ensure that his bone marrow was left intact. The adamantium was then fused to his bones. Logan was still under at this point and he was then taken to another area of the lab, a helmet was affixed to his head in order to reprogram him to be a government weapon. He was made into a killing machine until he ultimately rebelled and escaped after decimating the lab.
The metal in his body keeps his healing factor locked on overdrive and makes sure he doesn't succumb to metal poisoning.
Of course, having it on overdrive means that it'll burn out much quicker than normal. Logan's mutation (besides the animal senses) is basically just our natural human ability to heal turned up to 1,000. Hell, I remember a comic series where he lost an eye. We couldn't grow one back, but he could. It just took a while. He went by Patch at that time.
His healing factor has been vastly inflated over the years.
Not to mention, the amount of force required would be wayy more than what a handgun round could muster. Maybe some brain damage from the concussion of the bullet ricocheting off the skull, but it shouldn't be able to penetrate just because it's the same material.
The mystery regarding the Weapon X surgeries and body horror surrounding it are so interesting and fascinating.
In the comics, X-23 actually has her claws removed, laced with the adamantium and placed back in which I think the movie also showed a bit of
I've never noticed the base of his claws having screws and hardware in X1 until now. That's such a cool detail. I always lamented the movies removal of the comic ports and moving the claws to being between his knuckles rather than back of hand. I like the read that the blades were surgically grafted onto his bone claws to bring in a little of that comic port influence. All of the trauma with popping his claws also make sense to me in the idea of mutations being random genetic happenstance, a lot of mutations and gene expressions aren't necessarily productive or reduce the quality of life in creatures and end up not being passed on especially if the mutation ends up traumatizing or killing the animal.
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Wolverine has always been the most relatable comic book character. He is just like us except he has a better healing factor and a metal skeleton.
The novel of the Weapon X comic book explained in great (and gruesome detail) how the scientists worked around the metal functioning harmoniously with his bone marrow
4:48 it makes sense that she has a lot more bones in her hands because throughout the movies she’s always cracking her fingers
I love the concept of a character who has to eviscerate themself to use their powers. they do it really well in Chainsawman
X men 1 and 2 really had some borderline horror moments. Both wolverine's operation and that creepy wheelchair dude who almost overpowered professor X
Your one of the only people on CZcams that I’ve ever seen talk about how Logan can totally fuck up his claw display if he does it with his wrists bent 😂
The Marvel TTRP Game published by TSR in the 80’s. Every time the claws were popped out caused damage, didn’t mater much in game terms because of the regeneration. Also if Wolverine just used fists extra damage was caused because of the harder fists.
6:30 - That's how I always assumed the process worked, even as a kid reading the comics: the metal was applied _over_ the bones, not injected _into_ them. He's essentially wearing body armour... only it's internal, and more "skeleton armour". That's why his body and flesh still gets damaged (albiet briefly).
This channel really likes the word "body"
I just always wondered why there was never any blood on his claws when popping then in and out
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because the wounds would heal around the blood vessels immediately as the claws extended then when they retracted the lacerations heal to reconnect blood vessels and other tissues
I think the pain he feels now when he pops his claws only fuels him.
What if Deadpool/wade Wilson had adamantium procedure done to him? He's been dismembered plenty of times. Be interesting how he would react
Pretty badass that he feels significant pain every time he uses his claws. The rage he uses could be explained by that alone 😂
Thought it was canon that the adamantium poisoning was what was ultimately slowing and deteriorating his healing factor over time
It is. The food didn’t weaken him
@@Mitchell999the food is what was weakening his healing not the adamantium
@@wukongthemonkeyking249 thought he would have some sort of immunity against it with his healing. He mentioned to the doc that he knows what’s killing him saying “its in me” pointing to the adamantium. I mean the adamantium definitely weakened him and poisoned him as well. How much though vs the food? Idk. If he didn’t eat the food would he be better off? Would the adamantium still be to much?
@@Mitchell999 Yea it is the food actually, yes his new skeleton is making his healing factor work 24/7 but that isn't what's killing him rather it's specifically the corn syrup he's consuming on a daily basis as well as some of the other food. There's a big misconception about the adamantium, if it was that alone he'd quite literally be immortal and never age a day, but it's due to his healing factor working 24/7 that the food he's intaking is capable of affecting that much.
It's been a while since I watched the movie but if I recall they explain that "The boss made them change some ingredients etc of the corn syrup* also that boss they were talking about runs Essex, who in the comics is Mr.Sinister, so yea they more or less explained what was the main factor killing him in the movies.
@@Mitchell999 Also yes & no, he'd of been better off not eating food however that'd of been another layer of pain for him that'd of become increasingly worse over time, after no one like going extended periods of time without eating/drinking
Got to wonder what the original idea for “you volunteered for it” was gonna go. After all it was clear from x2 that this was a long and horrific procedure and his brief horror at seeing his claws so you have to wonder how far that “you volunteered” was stretched.
In the comics Logan’s healing factor replicates adamantium so I always thought spare adamantium was recycled
Thanks for this Wolverine video explanation
The attention to detail is insane
One of the greatest superheroes and he suffered his entire life because of the pain he felt from his own abilities. Kick-ass abilities, but still painful. All Wolverine all day long
It’s weird when you say that his body doesn’t reject the adamantium bullets like his survival factor is a living thing that recognises the potential for having this super metal grafted to his bones.
I say survival factor because In one comic Logan was decapitated and woke up in the presence of nick fury as a head.
Logan asked how he was even talking let alone breathing, nick said that the pours in his skin were being replacement lungs absorbing oxygen around him.
Knowing that his healing factor is capable of such things why doesn’t his survival factor grown new tissue out of the gaps in order to split Logan in half so he can essentially shed the skeleton.
If it is holding onto the adamantium bullets it might be trying to patch up the holes in Logan head and cover it with the adamantium bullet since there would be a regular bit of bone not covered making it a clear weak point.
Another comic had magneto remove Logan’s metal however it resulted in logan essentially evolving as his survival factor spent all its time on the metal like multiple people trying to fit through the same door and it just kept piling on.
The "survival factor" thing you talk about is only in the ultimate universe. 616 and every other continuity is a healing factor, so referring to it as a survival factor is factually wrong unless you're talking about the ultimate version of the character.
I think, the adamantium bullets stay for far longer than lead ones, but they do eventually come out. Not because his body rejects them, but because the new tissue pushes it out. I imagine he wakes up one day and finds an adamantium bullet by his head.
that's a fucking genius angle i never thought of. they poisoned the food supply to stop mutations, but no one talked about what that food does to people who are already mutants. it would explain why logans healing factor weakens so much in addition to his aging as well as xavier etc.
If he was in water would he sink due to the weight of the metals?
In the comics, Wolverine has claimed he hates water because he can drown like anyone else.
Yes, that’s why he’s shown to be afraid of flights. If the plane fell, and he landed in the ocean, he’d drown repeatedly for eternity, and nobody would be able to find him.
@@alexman378 we actually see that a few times in the comics, one time he was able to walk back to shore with much struggle but the distance between him and the beach wasn't so big, so he didn't sink as deep in the water but he still drowned a few times. Another time was when the plane he was in was destroyed, Logan made it back to the beach thanks to a Shark grabbing him with his jaw in an attempt to eat him, while fighting the shark Logan used this opportunity to get the animal to go as close to land as it could while they fought. Another instance is when Wolverine is shown fighting in a large river, while he does somewhat sink he can still swim rather well although with more effort than any normal human would, his weight also helped him move against the river's flow
@@hokutoshinken-chrisarmstro131That doesn’t make sense as we’ve seen him swim in the comics many times before. He got used to the weight of the adamntium to the point that he got near superhuman strength.
One of the funniest moments is when Mistique was mimicking X-Men members and Cyclops is so ready to open his visor, but stops when he realized the Wolverine in front of him is the real one when he says “you’re a dick.” As both of them don’t get along at all 🤣
The screws we could see when magneto was flexing wolverines claws were a production slip. They were part of the props used in the scene and the post production team just didn’t catch them to scrub them from the shot.
In the comics, it's said that the Adamantium and bone are basically the same thing, so all the bone functions still work like normal while being unbreakable.
I like to think his body ever so slowly absorbed the adamantium bullet and used it to make him even stronger.
i think that if he can survive with adamantium bullets in his brain, he could have them removed telekinetically
The amount of damage from the claws to the hand is so insane you just have to laugh 😂
I see the only way for it to work, would be, that, because adamantium is indestructible, then it doesn't matter it it is even a millimeter thick, it will work. Also, that where is muscles attach to his bones, those portions would be skipped over and coated around with the adamantium. So basically, his claws and his muscles attached to his bones, would remain and the claws would be fuzed together when they were so close together in Logan's forearms. This would actually work, and Logan's bones wouldn't have adamantium interwoven, so that his bone marrow wouldn't be compromised.
The Vibranium component of adamantium would allow all that to bind to the metal as vibranium is very accepted by organic structures.
@@FilthyToes14267 I guess I meant to say that I ont think that his bones became spliced with adamantium. That it didn't penetrate, but was woven around the bones, like how a piece of chicken is completely covered in the deep fryer with oil
Original power hurt to use, tortured, and experimented beyond imagination. Power constantly repairs nerves under stress, new version causes more pain, including any "tugging" on the claws, and has been seen to be put through some of the most painful stuff on cinema. We've seen him break so many bones but I think Beast curb stomping his claws when they were bones really drove it home how much he goes through.
No wonder he was finally ready to sleep. I always thought he would be able to gain a pain tolerance, but that healing factor is a double edged sword.
I know the movie portrayed it as if they replaced his skeleton with adamantium, but wasn't it just supposed to coat his skeleton. I remember seeing something in a comic where magneto ripped logans adamantium skeleton out, but Logans healing factor basically regenerated his skeleton back. Logan was no longer poisoned by the adamantium so he grew stronger while also becoming more animal like slowly losing his sense of self just like his brother.
As adamantium is virtually indestructible and the skull is covered by a thin layer of flesh, it’s safe to say that when Logan is shot in the head, the bullet deflects off of it as it can’t pancake against the skull. Lead bullets, by comparison, pancake against the skull and Logan’s healing factor ejects the flattened bullets from his skin while healing.
If the bullets are still in the Logan actually makes sense because I remember in the movie is they said the only two things I can actually break adamant TM is extreme heat. I don’t remember how hot but I thought I heard someone say it’s impossible temperature for something to get that hot, but isn’t the sun. And the next only thing that can pierce adamant TM is adamant TM itself. So those two shots. The two shots to the head that Adam Antium bullet pierced his skull so that’s why they would still be there. Well, Lad it’s not strong enough the Piers for the metal, so it stays on the surface that’s the explanation.
Nothing happens with adamantium bullets in his brain since adamantium can't pierce adamantium so the bullets just bounced off. No idea hot the film makers are doing with their logic but its quite bad.
The Hacksmith Industries channel recently created their own version of wolverines bones by coating them in nanovate alloy. I'd like to imagine that the Weapon X program did this to Logan with Adamantium, so instead of replacing his bones and bone marrow completely with Adamantium, they just coated over them. Thus, preserving Logans anatomical functions, allowing his healing factor to work
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Personally, while I love the emerging from the tub scene in origins. I really wish they had given us a dark gritty green tinted. Hard version
he has to self-harm just to harm another.
someone: Ohh...Wolverine is so cool, I wanna be wolverine...
Me :......Do you???
Logan deserves better I wanna ease his pain 😩😥 this why I love Wolverine as my fav marvel character
Wolverine will always be my favorite marvel character, I’m glad he’s back in Deadpool three
logan's bones still have a small core of marrow, and the general structure of a bone with the ability to produce new red and white blood cells, but that's only because his healing factor was producing marrow faster than the molten adamantium could melt it away.
Two things:
1. You mentioned “X-23” when referring to “X-24”, as Laura is X-23.
2. The adamantium bullet in Logan is not the same as the ones in Origins. Logan has rounded revolver rounds, designed to blow chunks out; whereas Origins have armor piercing rounds, designed to lodge in
Otherwise a really great video. Always found it interesting how Origins decided to retcon Wolverine’s anatomy (once the graphic novel of the same name was released), affecting the design element shown in previous movies, but then to even acknowledge that they would ignore various design elements (the bounding process). Regardless, loved your analysis on this topic
X-Men fans who only know the lore through the movies may not understand just how much of a sick f*** William Stryker was when it came to his experiments on mutants + his sheer hatred & dehuminization of them. The things he subjected mutants to make Francis's torturous treatments on Wade Wilson to unlock his mutation look tame in comparison. Bolivar Trask, who created the Sentinels that almost wiped out mutankind, doesn't approach Stryker's depths of brutality.
Even the abuses Deadpool 2's Headmaster put Rusty through aren't on the same level of damage (This is NOT to say or imply that different forms of abuse aren't equally valid, of course; I'm only specifying differences in physical trauma). The Headmaster is in some ways closer to Stryker in the comics since the movies don't emphasize his religious fanaticism. In the source material, he not only believed that mutation is a plot by Satan to destroy humanity from within.
He murdered his wife & son shortly after childbirth upon learning that Jason was a mutant. Stryker was like a Nazi scientist on steroids and would've fit right in with HYDRA, had their values aligned. It's horrifying to think about the mutants who suffered treatments even more agonizing than Logan's (i.e. the "failures" that helped Stryker work out the kinks for Adamantium implantation). To this day, he remains one of Marvel's most morally reprehensible characters.
the destroyed ligaments and damaged bones or whatever would explain why he cant move his wrists at all (or he isn't supposed to be ably to)
The bone claws didn't exist in the 1980's Marvel A to Z. That series of comics discussed the powers of most of the most prominent characters. Wolverine's claws were not bone but were added during the weapon-x program. The claws were deployed via bionic housings in his forearms. His healing factor made adding the claws possible.
its crazy how he will heal those wound but will be opened up again every time
Interesting to read the comments. I always thought Logan had a backstory that really didn’t mean a lot for him. I mean he lost his memory which would be the worst. But he keeps blaming them for the claws, not because they’re Metal but because he has claws. It’s only later we find out he had claws the whole time.
I just want to know if the adamantium was fused with his skeleton, how did he get perfect blades from his bone shaped claws?
Logan always had claws, even way back when his name was James. His claws were originally bone before the adamantine was put in his body and covered his bones. The X-Men Wolverine Origin movie was trash compared to the comic book. Also Sabretooth and Wolverine weren't originally brothers in the comic books.
You can hardly blame him for drinking so heavily with what hes gone through
this video needs to be examined further after the opening credits from Deadpool and Wolverine!
I’ve been a huge wolvie fan my entire life. I was explaining to my youngest how having an accelerated healing factor could make you incredibly strong by constantly repairing the damaged muscle tissue. Also, how painful those claws would be as the same said healing factor would repair your nerve damage over and over. Ouch.
the level of physical pain logan went throughout the x men series was insane.
gotta love that both of marvels biggest healers (wolverine and deadpool) are in constant pain
Its always disturbed me that idk if this was shown in the comics if logan doesn't straighten his wrist right his claws could straight up bust through his wrists
I like to think it's like regular casting iron the hot metal entered his skeleton, burned away the bone and took its place
He has his bone claws in his adamantium ones. When that japanese guy, he saved in ww2, tries to steal logans healing factor, he cuts the claws and drills into the bone marrow of them
Man thank goodness for that super healing cause if his flesh never healed that fast oof the pain would literally be agonizing rather then a couple seconds
The claws don't hurt, Logan regenerates, and because he has lived so long and been attacked in several brutal ways, the pain has become tolerable for him.
The books go into detail. At one point he sweated out nano machines or something close to it during the Weapon X program he was forced into
In the comic, Logans healing factor changed the adamantium to adamantium beta.
“Adamantium Beta functions like True Adamantium but does not inhibit the biological processes of bone.”
-Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z #1
It splits his knuckles and seperates ligamets
The doctors didn’t do much anatomical planning
Logan’s healing factor did most of the work
This is why he was the only one who could survive the procedure
Think about lead poisoning. The metal gets into your body and it mimics essential cells/nutrients/proteins used to build up and maintain your body. However with a human it damages us.
Theoretically due to Logan’s healing factor however he could counter this and his body can actually use the metal as these proteins and nutrients without damaging his body.
Just a thought.
whos here after the Deadpool & Wolverine movie xD
The nitpickingest of details of thought of recently is that shouldn't any x-ray or show of Wolverine's skull have a hole in the adamantium showing the bone where he'd been shot before? Like yeah the bone heals back but not the metal
Well, he didn't need to remove the bullet from his body to obtain it. You said Stryker only put 5 bullets in him from his revolver. meaning that there was one more left unfired.