Why was anyone in the Leafs organization unhappy Dubas left? Dubai left for more money and control. He was orchestrating that move which was dishonorable.
This is GREAT news! Wes Clark drafted with 1st round picks Rasmus Sandin & Timothy Liljegren. No wonder the Leafs have had issues on defense. When the rest of the NHL was going with big mobile defensemen the Leafs were doing the opposite. It is Dubas' style to go after little offensive defensemen. Look what Dubas' first move was in Pittsburgh - UFA Erik Karlsson and it was a disaster. Good riddance. Dub as & Clark deserve each other.
I've heard all about how much of a draft guru Wes Clark is, he was brought in 2018, here are notable Leafs picks since 2018 Rasmus Sandin Sean Durzi Pontus Holmberg Nicholas Robertson Matthew Knies Fraser Minten Easton Cowan Not exactly a banner list is it? Also, nobody from the 2020 draft has played ANY NHL games.
Durzi is a great player, Holmberg was a 5th round pick so that's a straight up slam dunk. Robertson can play just hasn't had the opportunity, you're definitely forgetting Knies has only played 2 years... He could be a phenomenal 2nd line guy. Now we get into the really good picks. Cowan looks like a superstar, minten could be an excellent 3 C if not a 2C. You're lost. For how many crap picks the leafs have had theyve done exceptional
@@darianhepner199 first off, Clark wasn't director of scouting all those years, he was in the role for 3 years, before that it was John Lilley, who was actually responsible for Sandin, Durzi and Holmberg. Wes Clark was a scout and took over the head role in 2021. I already mentioned Knies as a good pick. Cowan is great in junior it doesn't mean it'll translate to the NHL, same with Minten. Time will tell on these guys
@84coleR , Dubas was the biggest mistake that Shanahan made, he had zero qualifications to be leafs gm, his bad trades, trading away of draft picks and overpaying of the ' core 5' have set the leafs back years and made Treliving's job even harder!
If he's that loyal to Dubas, we are better off! I feel there will be more exits this off season or into next season. This is actually good for the organization overall. it stings now, perhaps, but it will allow Treliving to hire his own guys around him.
Only some people have the ability to see the hidden talent of young players. It is hard to explain but people like Wes Clark see that where no one else can.
Its not all wess clarck its a round table group discussion on who gets picked he even said that some scouting staff had there guys they wanted to get its not one guy leafs has people all over the place telling wess on who they like
My view is Marner and Matthews want to play in Pittsburgh for Dubas. It might possibly explain why Matthews has been such a playoff disappointment at centre as a Leaf. 😀
I felt sorry for the Wes. Leafs under Dubas kept on trading draft picks. Leafs have traded away lots of draft picks for the next three drafts. Kinda funny he went to Pens.
Dubai’s lied at his firing, why would he be honest now! Wes will be a loss from what I heard.. mind you we’ve been in the same stew for 9 seasons. What the hell,go for it
It makes no sense to me. Wes Clark was front and center during the rookie draft. He must have known his time with the Leafs were numbered. You wonder what advice he was giving the Leafs during the draft. Maybe the draft picks this year, the players the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Lol.
Was he a relative Nick? Why is anyone upset? Thank god hes gone. What proven rookies over the last 10 yrs has these players made out well? Can you tell me the last roy that the leafs had even in the running? The guys we call up are sent back down after a game or 2. Rubbish...bring in someone with a proven track record.
Name one pick this guy made. I watched the memorial cup, Easton Cowan spent the entire week on his Ass! Undersized for the NHL. A blessing in disguise!
Oh no, how will we ever follow up the success of one playoff round victory in the last 30 years without him.
Exactly!! Move on.
THISSSS, hell be replaced easy
No one is irreplaceable, business's go on.
Why was anyone in the Leafs organization unhappy Dubas left? Dubai left for more money and control. He was orchestrating that move which was dishonorable.
This is GREAT news! Wes Clark drafted with 1st round picks Rasmus Sandin & Timothy Liljegren. No wonder the Leafs have had issues on defense. When the rest of the NHL was going with big mobile defensemen the Leafs were doing the opposite. It is Dubas' style to go after little offensive defensemen. Look what Dubas' first move was in Pittsburgh - UFA Erik Karlsson and it was a disaster. Good riddance. Dub as & Clark deserve each other.
Who cares they will all eventually be fired in Pittsburgh
I've heard all about how much of a draft guru Wes Clark is, he was brought in 2018, here are notable Leafs picks since 2018
Rasmus Sandin
Sean Durzi
Pontus Holmberg
Nicholas Robertson
Matthew Knies
Fraser Minten
Easton Cowan
Not exactly a banner list is it? Also, nobody from the 2020 draft has played ANY NHL games.
Knies, Minten and Cowen could be solid players as they develop, but the other picks are busts as far as I’m concerned.
Durzi is a great player, Holmberg was a 5th round pick so that's a straight up slam dunk. Robertson can play just hasn't had the opportunity, you're definitely forgetting Knies has only played 2 years... He could be a phenomenal 2nd line guy. Now we get into the really good picks. Cowan looks like a superstar, minten could be an excellent 3 C if not a 2C. You're lost. For how many crap picks the leafs have had theyve done exceptional
@@darianhepner199 first off, Clark wasn't director of scouting all those years, he was in the role for 3 years, before that it was John Lilley, who was actually responsible for Sandin, Durzi and Holmberg. Wes Clark was a scout and took over the head role in 2021.
I already mentioned Knies as a good pick. Cowan is great in junior it doesn't mean it'll translate to the NHL, same with Minten. Time will tell on these guys
Dubas isn't going to be running things for long in Pittsburgh anyways lol. He is over hyped and not that great of a GM imo
@84coleR , Dubas was the biggest mistake that Shanahan made, he had zero qualifications to be leafs gm, his bad trades, trading away of draft picks and overpaying of the ' core 5' have set the leafs back years and made Treliving's job even harder!
If he's that loyal to Dubas, we are better off! I feel there will be more exits this off season or into next season. This is actually good for the organization overall. it stings now, perhaps, but it will allow Treliving to hire his own guys around him.
He left because Tree told him to pick bigger players. Clark LOVES small players. No lose here at all.
Only some people have the ability to see the hidden talent of young players. It is hard to explain but people like Wes Clark see that where no one else can.
Devastating? The leafs have a brutal farm system with a couple of exceptions and Dubas is the most overated GM in the NHL!
I'll disagree. Dubas isn't overrated by 99% of fans. Most folks don't think is a good GM....he may not even be an average GM.
They should be getting rid of anyone and everyone associated with Dubas in the front office.
Its not all wess clarck its a round table group discussion on who gets picked he even said that some scouting staff had there guys they wanted to get its not one guy leafs has people all over the place telling wess on who they like
Wes Clark will be seeing yeah
My view is Marner and Matthews want to play in Pittsburgh for Dubas. It might possibly explain why Matthews has been such a playoff disappointment at centre as a Leaf. 😀
Perhaps a replacement from the Hunter brothers? Mark, or Dave? (London Knights)
During Kyle's time, no wonder why we had issues with other NHL GMs
The actual downsize is that he will also know the Leafs' intelligence on next year's draft.
Don't be sad about losing anyone associated with Dubas.
Daddy Dubas is poaching.
Wish dubas would take Shanahan next
Shanny for president of Pens
Who cares, easily replaced
Why are people making a big deal out of this .. who cares
Wes Clark is gone!? Cancel the parade.
Nick, you are praising Wes too much. He had more misses than hits. He drafted too many smurfs.
Damn, Pens looking like a future 1st round playoff team.
Take the job Darius ans Nick. you guys lnow your stuff
Life goes on he was not the savior, take him dubas both of you will be fired 3 seasons from now
They may be fires in time for the leafs start of the rebuild...again
I felt sorry for the Wes. Leafs under Dubas kept on trading draft picks. Leafs have traded away lots of draft picks for the next three drafts. Kinda funny he went to Pens.
If Ballard was still alive he would just get the peanuts, popcorn, ice cold drinks guy to take over.
Spezza Wes Clark who's next dubas
Dubas is invading the leafs😢
Money can buy more scouts. Its not like he drafted a Elite player ever in the 2nd round or later rounds.
Knies,sandin,liligren,durzi,cowan,minten plus this years draft
Dubai’s lied at his firing, why would he be honest now! Wes will be a loss from what I heard.. mind you we’ve been in the same stew for 9 seasons. What the hell,go for it
Oh well. Move on.
Yes leafs cap guru dubas is waiting for you
Good all this guy did was draft small forwards ... Change everywhere is needed now shanny needs to follow him out
Tree will bring one of his own guys and maybe he might be a better scout than Wes was
Did he help draft Those 170 pound 5 foot 10 finish defenseman. Good riddance
It makes no sense to me. Wes Clark was front and center during the rookie draft. He must have known his time with the Leafs were numbered. You wonder what advice he was giving the Leafs during the draft. Maybe the draft picks this year, the players the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Lol.
Wes Clark came across as an arrogant S.O.B. of course he's going to Pittsburgh. Stop saying you hope he does well.
Was he a relative Nick? Why is anyone upset? Thank god hes gone. What proven rookies over the last 10 yrs has these players made out well? Can you tell me the last roy that the leafs had even in the running? The guys we call up are sent back down after a game or 2. Rubbish...bring in someone with a proven track record.
Yeah wes clark wasnt good, sandin,liligren,durzi,cowan,minten,knies
Plus this years draft.
Name one pick this guy made. I watched the memorial cup, Easton Cowan spent the entire week on his Ass! Undersized for the NHL. A blessing in disguise!
Did he get up and keep grinding every time? The he’s not as big. Bitch as Bitchell Marner
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