The Video Game Crash of 1983 - Gaming Historian

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  • @tjcvader32
    @tjcvader32 Před rokem +177

    In 8 years, this video will be considered history itself. I love it. The "if you liked, rate" really dates this. It's a blast of nostalgia

    • @orlandofurioso7329
      @orlandofurioso7329 Před rokem +6

      The stars are a relic from a more civilized age

    • @KahlessTheUnforgettable
      @KahlessTheUnforgettable Před rokem +3

      Wow! It’s almost as if as things age; they recede back in time and become “historical” by way of being “history” to the observer!

    • @BlackieBloomberg
      @BlackieBloomberg Před 11 měsíci +8

      Guy: Makes observation
      Micropenis-haver: Tries to invalidate him for internet points by reiterating the same observation only sarcastically

    • @Vittoria056
      @Vittoria056 Před 5 měsíci

      in 8 years your comment will be an relic of the internet, which once was looking like today

    • @Intrepid151
      @Intrepid151 Před 5 měsíci

      Star rating > thumbs rating

  • @pakcikjon2358
    @pakcikjon2358 Před 5 lety +1163

    Suggestion: do a remake of this video. The topic is still relevant & can interest today's gamers

    • @aaronh499
      @aaronh499 Před 4 lety +17

      Agreed

    • @Lexilove2016
      @Lexilove2016 Před 4 lety +68

      Why remake it? This is perfectly watchable.

    • @derpinguin7003
      @derpinguin7003 Před 4 lety +39

      Dom the Bomb today’s gamers need more pixels. Otherwise it’s unwatchable for them

    • @mattjohnson8090
      @mattjohnson8090 Před 3 lety +3

      Fuck yeh 🇳🇪

    • @bobbyunavailable
      @bobbyunavailable Před 3 lety +15

      Abg Jon yes, good idea, and give us those “boring” stock market and sales figures this time. :)

  • @Ballowax
    @Ballowax Před 5 lety +680

    I think the gaming historion really needs to remake this video

    • @xenxander
      @xenxander Před 4 lety +40

      Me too.
      Seeing game footage from 2007 - 2009 is so painful now. xD

    • @Goldwelp
      @Goldwelp Před 4 lety +12

      Exactly what I was thinking. I had to check to see why it was giving me Auto 240. This cant be right....

    • @erex0998
      @erex0998 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah

    • @n1njahawkssecondchannel84
      @n1njahawkssecondchannel84 Před 3 lety +24

      Personally I think it’s fine the way how it is yes the quality isn’t the best anymore but it doesn’t stop me from enjoying this

    • @Tretheperson
      @Tretheperson Před 3 lety +2

      I agree

  • @orlandofurioso7329
    @orlandofurioso7329 Před 2 lety +105

    For a 2009 video this is incredibly well made, this dude deserves way more subs

  • @TheInkPitOx
    @TheInkPitOx Před 5 lety +71

    Prehistory: 1947-1971
    Early Days: 1972-1982
    Dark Ages: 1983-1985
    Golden Age: 1985-2000
    Digital Age: 2000-2004
    Interactive Age: 2004-2012
    High Definition Age: 2012-2017
    Smart Age: 2017-present

    • @TheInkPitOx
      @TheInkPitOx Před 4 lety +1

      @ElyC West I start the dark age at 1983, the crash

    • @n1njahawkssecondchannel84
      @n1njahawkssecondchannel84 Před 3 lety +7

      Keith Pixton the new dark ages is 2015-2019

    • @Fondoofus5542
      @Fondoofus5542 Před 3 lety

      I liked to think of the 90s as the beginning of the modern age.

    • @TheInkPitOx
      @TheInkPitOx Před 3 lety +1

      @@Fondoofus5542 The modern age IMO began in 2000 and the launch of the PS2.

    • @NetBattler
      @NetBattler Před 3 měsíci +2

      2024 isn't a smart age unfortunately

  • @BigOlSmellyFlashlight
    @BigOlSmellyFlashlight Před 6 lety +491

    1983: apple computers cost over 1000 dollars
    2018: apple computers cost over 1000 dollars

    • @FoamingPipeSnakes
      @FoamingPipeSnakes Před 5 lety +79

      1000 1983 dollars is a hell of a lot more than 1000 2018 dollars.

    • @AAmoroso
      @AAmoroso Před 5 lety +20

      @@FoamingPipeSnakes but it also costs a lot more nowadays to rent a room in a decent part of town

    • @pastamaniac6794
      @pastamaniac6794 Před 5 lety +5

      Add to inflation.

    • @RazanAr51
      @RazanAr51 Před 5 lety +21

      2019: an apple *monitor stand* that costs 999$

    • @simpleton8554
      @simpleton8554 Před 5 lety +1

      @Teddy James why you lyin...1000 in 4 days?

  • @georgef551
    @georgef551 Před 8 lety +383

    Actually, people that knew people that worked in arcades, or read the paper (yes, even as a kid, usually for the comics), we did know about the crash. I was 11 when it happened.
    I remember one of my cousins worked at a local arcade, and the paper was doing a story on the crash. They asked her about the future of video games. I still remember her quite vividly: "...It is a fad. Video games will be obsolete in 2 years."
    Glad she was wrong, as well as everyone else.
    Still have my 2600, my E.T. cart, and my sister's PAC-MAN cart.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu Před 7 lety +26

      There was no crash in Europe or Japan

    • @Alianger
      @Alianger Před 7 lety +11

      Interesting anecdote but you could dig up such quotes about a lot of things that didn't fade away, like the internet for example. AFAIK arcades did great up until the mid 90s, and longer in japan. This whole thing seems isolated to console gaming in north america only.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu Před 7 lety +12

      I am British and was alive in the 80's. Nobody in the UK even heard of any crash until Americans started talking about it on the Internet. We had 8 bit computers selling millions of games on the ZX Spectrum, BBC Micro, Commodore 64, Amstrad CPC

    • @sagittarius4765
      @sagittarius4765 Před 7 lety +3

      georgef551 yep proved her wrong lol now the video game industry surpasses even Hollywood haha!

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551 Před 7 lety +1

      Surpassed Hollywood by far.

  • @sacredeight
    @sacredeight Před 8 lety +61

    I like how it says "class dismissed" at the end of the video. Really drives the educational nature home.

    • @sacredeight
      @sacredeight Před 8 lety +5

      By "It", I mean the video. Not Norman himself.

  • @yukowl
    @yukowl Před 10 lety +217

    Gaming company published an unfinished product?........ as if that would ever happen.

    • @yourepostedinthewrongneigh1545
      @yourepostedinthewrongneigh1545 Před 6 lety +10

      OWL
      Four years later that's still a thing unfortunately

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Před 6 lety +9

      That always happens. There is a famous quote from Nintendo from Iwata where he says "One of the most difficult things new designers have to learn is to declare products that they feel need work complete". With modern games you can spend decades polishing it and still find flaws. That is what makes this a much more tricky thing than many gamers realize. All games have glitches, bugs and flaws in them somewhere; it's just a question of how much of that is acceptable. Since it's a relative thing there is no clear answer.

    • @scottbreon9448
      @scottbreon9448 Před 6 lety +2

      Cough EA Cough
      Cough Ubisoft Cough

    • @innactive8909
      @innactive8909 Před 5 lety +2

      *cough*
      Bethesda
      *cough*

    • @brunor.1127
      @brunor.1127 Před 5 lety +2

      @@yourepostedinthewrongneigh1545
      How can a 5 year comment be so relatable

  • @doctor7905
    @doctor7905 Před rokem +12

    It's 2022 and I feel history is repeating itself

  • @wawazaza1785
    @wawazaza1785 Před 5 lety +136

    Me: why is the quality so low.
    Sees 2009: I'am sorry

    • @Aydinnyc
      @Aydinnyc Před 5 lety

      Chif6791 F. Yes

    • @Usario321
      @Usario321 Před 4 lety +3

      Chif6791 F. still, it’s low quality for 2009. It’s 2009, not 2005

    • @wawazaza1785
      @wawazaza1785 Před 4 lety +6

      @@Usario321 but this was his channels early years.

    • @nicewater894
      @nicewater894 Před 4 lety

      You can hear halo 3 from hear....

  • @Prince_Luci
    @Prince_Luci Před 6 měsíci +7

    The fact that the only decent video I’ve found on this topic is almost old enough to drive is wildly upsetting to me lmao.

  • @sharp640SR
    @sharp640SR Před 4 měsíci +3

    14 years old. And I'd still call this quality content. You out did yourself sir.

  • @AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet
    @AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet Před 9 lety +455

    The reasons of "the great game industry crash in 83" are actually so easy to summarize. It goes like this:
    "We don't give a shit about our game and its quality. All we care about is making money from selling it since it looks like the market is huge".
    For example, let's listen to what Atari has to say:
    "So, we are the leading company in the industry with tons of money, all the time in the world, wide market and endless possibilities? How about we hire just a few people to create a game from scratch in just 3 days, then invest millions into producing and marketing millions of copies for this game and face a tremendous financial failure. Wait, we didn't go bankrupt yet? Lol, then let's buy rights from the most promising title in the world, this time we will hire just ONE guy to do all the job in a few weeks and invest even MORE MILLIONS into producing the cartridges of this garbage. Are we bankrupt this time? Alright, weeee!"

    • @folver91
      @folver91 Před 8 lety +34

      Maybe what we could face in the future is a decline of the AAA industry. Games are costing more than movies and the public satisfaction is lower every year. While minor developers are profiting relatively more with more finished and quality games.
      Even though, with the high success games of companies like Rockstar and Naughty Dog, and successful sh*t from Ubisoft, EA, this crisis scenario is nowhere to see in the near future.

    • @tanall5959
      @tanall5959 Před 8 lety +19

      +Fernando Oliveira If there is a 'AAA Crash', it wont be nearly as abrupt as what happened in '83, which was more or less a perfect storm of vicious cycles. A theoretical 'AAA Crash' would more likely be a gradual decline due to consumer fatigue. At least that's the uneducated opinion of someone born in the era of the first crash.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Před 8 lety +2

      +Alexey Filippenko There's also the computers becoming cheaper.

    • @brandonselitetv1436
      @brandonselitetv1436 Před 8 lety +5

      well remember back then almost all of Coleco,Atari,Channel F. and intellevision games(good ones) were made by One person. so E.T. being made by one person isn't bad. plus Howard Scott(creator for ET) was chosen to develop it cause most of his games were a million seller so ATARI thought he wouldn't be a problem

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 Před 7 lety

      '84, actually.

  • @semikruller
    @semikruller Před 5 lety +26

    I was 7 years old when this crash happened. I still remember owning a Coleco Gemini and how it seemed almost overnight we went from video games being $50 upper shelf items to literal 4$ bargain bins. We would go from store to store looking for cheap games; Zellers in Canada was selling off all sorts of stock. I still remember being so puzzled at how/why this was happening. All of this crazy expensive shit I had lusted after was suddenly being sold for almost nothing and my parents were buying dozens and dozens of games. In the end we probably ended up owning around 60-100 games (memory is fuzzy) - we had ALL of the Activision titles, which were great! but there we many of those knock-off games that just sucked! Thanks for the trip back in time - your videos are great!

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 Před 9 měsíci

      I think kids in my neighborhood might have been "renting" video games. That is I saw a lot of game boxes that were taped up in Zayres like they'd been returned. I don't know what the policy was, but could imagine them buying one and returning it for an exchange in 30 days.

  • @GameTesterBootCamp
    @GameTesterBootCamp Před 8 lety +52

    quick note: Chase the Chuck Wagon is worth a small fortune these days.

    • @sanicyouth6540
      @sanicyouth6540 Před 8 lety +1

      It was available only via mail by sending in proofs of purchase to Purina back then.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 Před 7 lety +2

      It's a terrible game.

    • @TortureBot
      @TortureBot Před 4 lety

      $60-130 loose, if you think that's a small fortune. But, yeah, complete in box about $1,000.

    • @osurpless
      @osurpless Před 4 lety

      TortureBot Not only is it a terrible game, it’s highly derivative, which of course is one of the emblematic issues surrounding the Crash.
      It should be forgotten, even to the odd mindset that is the collector who solely wants to put games on their shelves...

  • @sebwan
    @sebwan Před 7 lety +65

    6:32 When he says "take a look at this" and later "notice anything?", but the video is in 240p^^

  • @guc_sl
    @guc_sl Před 9 lety +743

    thx Nintendo for bringing gaming back to life

    • @chargermaster586
      @chargermaster586 Před 6 lety +38

      gucciboi Nintendo didn't do anything but make rules we use today does everyone forget there is a world outside of America.

    • @anotherks7297
      @anotherks7297 Před 6 lety +80

      charger master *facepalm*

    • @joed5150
      @joed5150 Před 6 lety +81

      charger master That's why this video is about the crash in NORTH AMERICA. He says it clear as day at the beginning of the video.

    • @cbbblue8348
      @cbbblue8348 Před 6 lety +10

      Joe D i doubt hes underaged to even to be on youtube

    • @PickleRick91x
      @PickleRick91x Před 6 lety

      NightFans Animation you can be 4 on CZcams what the fuck are you even saying 😂 my neices were on CZcams when they were 4 and two 😂

  • @SamEvansCOM
    @SamEvansCOM Před 8 lety +86

    It's not Tod Fry's fault it's Atari's fault for publishing the prototype

    • @dr.awkward9075
      @dr.awkward9075 Před 5 lety +7

      Toad Fry was shit. His game was shit & Atari was shit. And yes, i spelled Toad Fry.

    • @davidv4018
      @davidv4018 Před 5 lety +4

      I don't think the video suggested it.

    • @PinoyBowlerGS92
      @PinoyBowlerGS92 Před 5 lety +1

      On top of that shit, Ray Kassar was the shittiest President of Atari cause he denied deals and agreements to others. I don’t felt bad for Atari at ALL, I don’t care if people like Mike Matei from Cinemassacre that they are sad that Atari was forgotten. They are a bunch of idiots that they don’t get it that “Atari destroyed the industry”. Why would anyone collect games that one company made a lot of shit in the past ?. Nintendo, Sega, Sony and Microsoft deserves everything for the industry except for Atari.

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll Před 5 lety +4

      @@davidv4018 If anything, the video suggested the opposite.
      Frye: "Hey guys, I've made a prototype for the Pac-Man port!"
      Atari: "Ok, let me see **plays the game** Fine, let's publish it"
      Frye: "Ah, okay... wait, WHAT!?"

    • @AllGamingStarred
      @AllGamingStarred Před 4 lety +3

      @@dr.awkward9075 the poor guy was given 3 weeks or so to make the game. can you imagine the stress? 6507 assembly is NOT easy. it's called a prototype for a reason. So no, Fry is NOT at fault, and you are a DICK to think so. It's fair to say it about atari though and yes, the game sucked, but hey, at least it wasn't raiders of the lost ark, or chase the fucking chuck wagon. I think the absolute worst title for the system would have to be Gravitar. If you want to hate a game, hate that one.

  • @FloatingSunfish
    @FloatingSunfish Před 5 lety +19

    Shipping the prototype as the final product?
    Ridiculous deadlines?
    These stories give us developers the creeps...

  • @fmusopp
    @fmusopp Před 10 lety +14

    wow. i've learned about the crash from several places, but this is the best explanation i've come across. I didn't even know that all those systems were all out simultaneously.

    • @ZA1US
      @ZA1US Před 10 lety

      They may have been available, but that does not mean that every store carried every single one of them, Most people were only aware of Atari, Colecovision, Intellivison and the Odyssey. By the time the Colecovision came out, the Odyssey was pretty much done, so the information presented in the video is not entirely accurate.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 Před 9 měsíci

      Atari had something like 70-80% market share after Space Invaders (1980). So even though Mattel did TV advertisements for the Intellivision, (saying their sports games were better and they had space games too) they'd only sell 3 million compared to something like 15 million Atari 2600s, and 1 million Odyssey² (which was dead by 1980). In 1982 Atari released the 5200 which sold just 1 million compared to 2-5 million more 2600s (mainly due to reduced costs/prices and Pac-Man) and competed with ColecoVisions, also released in 1982, which would only sell 2 million 1982-3. They also faced competition from computers.

  • @RadioactiveSkullSocial
    @RadioactiveSkullSocial Před 6 lety +462

    EA is gonna be the cause of a second video game crash

    • @yourdissapointeddaddy2057
      @yourdissapointeddaddy2057 Před 6 lety +1

      Nuh uh G2A will...

    • @ethanlaborde
      @ethanlaborde Před 6 lety +7

      Radioactive Skull Nah, they’re just one company.

    • @Howlingburd19
      @Howlingburd19 Před 6 lety +5

      Radioactive Skull they ruined freaking Battlefront -_-

    • @Potato257.0
      @Potato257.0 Před 6 lety

      Radioactive Skull lmao

    • @carlweathers5714
      @carlweathers5714 Před 6 lety

      Radioactive Skull you should check out the creative director of rogue raven. That guy fucks shit up on all social media. Has an idea that no one else has and a silent hill style horror game. We as gamers need to get our shit together.

  • @XtheshadowlegionX
    @XtheshadowlegionX Před 5 lety +10

    Hey Man, congratulations, 10 years and this vídeo still holds on quality and pacing!

  • @mohammadhussien5223
    @mohammadhussien5223 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The second gaming crash is coming. It's just a matter of time, thank you for this informative video mate and it well made for a 2009 video.

    • @BillRizer-we4iq
      @BillRizer-we4iq Před 3 měsíci

      You mean the third crash the first crash was in 77 it killed the pong consoles it a forggoten crash the second crash is the well knowing one

  • @FrostMonolith
    @FrostMonolith Před 3 lety +5

    as Shigeru Miyamoto said, "Delaying a game's release is worth it, as long it can become the best it can be"
    Atari dealing with dumb deadlines just killed it and everything else

    • @ClassicTVMan1981X
      @ClassicTVMan1981X Před 10 měsíci +1

      Atari would not allow anyone who worked on their games to be given any external credit, out of fear other video game companies may approach them with offers to leave Atari for them.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 Před 9 měsíci +1

      They did release some good games in January-April. But maybe they were still caught up in the idea of Christmas sales, and didn't get that video games could sell year-round.

  • @lukatnthelm4615
    @lukatnthelm4615 Před 3 lety +11

    Unfinished games been put out can’t imagine that happening now.
    Yep
    Of course
    Cyberpunk!

  • @reddude2873
    @reddude2873 Před 5 lety +17

    Gaming historian: *getting mad over crappy game's*
    Avgn:ay ay dont steal my stuff

  • @doanphat1480
    @doanphat1480 Před rokem +5

    Well, it's now 2023. Anyone considered this video needed a remake for the 40th anniversary of the crash?

  • @legoflyingpig
    @legoflyingpig Před 10 lety +10

    I actually get emotional when I think about the nes, it saved my life! I couldn't live without video games. Thank you nes ❤️

  • @SunnyS5
    @SunnyS5 Před 5 lety +65

    Nobody:
    CZcams recommendation feed: WATCH THIS VIDEO FROM 10 YEARS AGO

    • @TortureBot
      @TortureBot Před 4 lety

      Still relevant, as it's talking about history.

  • @reamuji6775
    @reamuji6775 Před 4 lety +13

    you can clearly felt the 2009 vibe on this

  • @CH-uk1il
    @CH-uk1il Před rokem +2

    No matter where our opinions fall on Nintendo. It is the most important video game company. Without them, video gaming wouldn't even exist anymore, the crash never would have ended, Sega, Sony and Microsoft's consoles wouldn't even exist either. Ditto for many beloved franchises like Halo, Mario (obviously), Resident Evil, GTA, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, etc and etc...

  • @GardenCelluloids
    @GardenCelluloids Před 6 měsíci +4

    6:06 This actually aged well… in a way

  • @Jeremyak
    @Jeremyak Před 3 měsíci +3

    Imagine making a game so bad you try to dispose of it like it's nuclear waste.

  • @rizkaarifiandi5670
    @rizkaarifiandi5670 Před 4 lety +49

    im here in October 2019
    holyshiet, 10 years.....

  • @CannibaLouiST
    @CannibaLouiST Před 2 lety +6

    Big companies today are even censoring the old games, and claim they are "faithful to the original", "definitive edition".
    They shall be crushed HARD.

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus Před 7 lety +60

    Thank you for making this video! I'm doing a report on the video game crash of 83 at school and this helped a lot! You will get credit!

  • @joeb2588
    @joeb2588 Před 8 lety +31

    I was playing colecovision up until the NES came out. Believe it or not I wasn't impressed by the controllers or the unit so I held out a little bit. Then I went into a now defunct dept store called Caldors and saw the Sega Master System. That was impressive. That's what I got. Loved it.

    • @Manardo18
      @Manardo18 Před 5 lety

      The master system looks like a pretty good system despite it not being as well known as the nes. Although I have never played a master system game before.

    • @ClassicTVMan1981X
      @ClassicTVMan1981X Před 9 měsíci

      However, the NES beat out the Master System in terms of lasting sales success.

    • @joeb2588
      @joeb2588 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @ClassicTVMan1981X yes, they did use "dirty" monopoly tactics by telling 3rd party developers that they could not develop for anyone else. So Sega's in-house team had to make a lot of titles themselves.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I played the NES games at my uncle's house, but didn't like the feel of the controller. I didn't get the system, and didn't see others playing one in college, so tried computer games. My brother got the SNES by the time I got out of college and bought some games for it.

    • @joeb2588
      @joeb2588 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @sandal_thong8631 I didn't like those controllers either. I thought that d-pad was uncomfortable and took the enjoyment out of the games

  • @Rubberman202
    @Rubberman202 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I've seen people, specifically Europeans, try to downplay the significance of the Video Game Crash of 1983, mostly because it was an American thing and the rest of the world wasn't affected by it. I certainly understand that line of thinking from a European perspective, but the fact that Nintendo, one of the major players in gaming to this day, made a number of business decisions, as well as creative decisions, based on the American market back in those days, I don't think it's as easy to dismiss as non-Americans realize.

  • @Xpert74
    @Xpert74 Před 8 lety +54

    I appreciate that this video acknowledges that video games in general did not cease to exist; the crash was mostly centralized in North America, and for console at that. Some people continue to be under the mistaken impression that video games in general worldwide had a crash, regardless of the platform or region, which just isn't true.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu Před 7 lety +16

      Exactly, it's really annoying why Americans keep perpetuating this nonesne that Nintendo "saved videogames" as if we wouldn't have them. It shows how Nintendo did a complete number on America, almost a North Korean style brainwashing.

    • @PhazonEnder
      @PhazonEnder Před 6 lety +7

      I've never heard anyone claim that Nintendo saved the video game industry as a whole, however they were responsible for revitalizing the home video industry in America.
      If it wasn't for Nintendo there's a good chance that I never would have become a gamer, or at the very least, I would have become one much later in my life.

    • @MRTOWELRACK
      @MRTOWELRACK Před 6 lety +2

      @@alexojideagu Yeah, Nintendo did not save video games. However, Nintendo's business model (topdown quality controlled consoles) eventually eclipsed Europe's microcomputer market and revitalized North America's interest. In the background, home gaming PCs slowly came about but that's another story. Despite Nintendo's insights, both Nintendo and especially Sega alienated their devs to another Japanese titan, Sony. If Nintendo wrote the book on managing video games, Sony followed it up by distinguishing its developer relations through in-person tech support, funding third party studios, and improved censorship policies.

    • @AlexOjideagu2
      @AlexOjideagu2 Před 6 lety +2

      Consoles eventual success in Europe was down to SEGA not Nintendo. The Sega Master System was the most popular console in the UK until 1996, just above the Megadrive. After which Sony took over. Nintendo didn't make a dent until the SNES in 1992. Although the Gameboy was popular that was in a niche of its own.

    • @PhazonEnder
      @PhazonEnder Před 6 lety +1

      ojideagu I'll say it again, Nintendo saved the home video game industry in America. In this context the European industry has nothing to do with this discussion.

  • @UnknownPerson-wc7wf
    @UnknownPerson-wc7wf Před 2 lety +45

    This could happen anytime right now since many company keep releasing broken launch game and people are slowly losing faith to those company. EA, Rockstar, Blizzard

    • @_M41KU_
      @_M41KU_ Před 2 lety +12

      Idk about that, back then most games were shovelware but in our current environment all triple a games differ from quality. Some are bad while others are good. Not to mention how popular indie games have gotten. I don’t see people that have invested years of their lives in videos games quitting just because of EA and some other bad companies.

    • @DogeCoinInvestor
      @DogeCoinInvestor Před 2 lety +9

      Nah, too many consistently good games out already

    • @Sumire973
      @Sumire973 Před rokem +1

      Quality games are still coming out, except in the mobile market, which companies like Voodoo have been ruining for a long time and flooded the market with hyper-casual, always-online, ad-heavy games.
      A crash in the PC and console gaming industry seems unlikely, but in the mobile market it is a very real possibility.

    • @noneofyourbusiness1114
      @noneofyourbusiness1114 Před rokem +1

      I agree it seems like it's just Nintendo and the indies releasing quality

    • @frankiecedeno3724
      @frankiecedeno3724 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Except that gaming is the biggest entertainment industry by a large margin. Sports would have to fail. Movies would have to fail. Books would have to fail before anything touched Gaming.

  • @teresapflaumer5717
    @teresapflaumer5717 Před 2 lety +4

    I got an Atari 2600 with PacMan in Christmas 1982. Mom and I did not have much money at that time, but the effects of the "video game crash of 1983" allowed us to buy tons of games. I think I had over 30 by the end of 1984. So this "crash" was extremely beneficial to our budget. BTW, back then I was extremely obsessed with playing Asteroids, Megamania, Pole Position, and Star Raiders (I collected my scores in notebooks). And PacMan WAS a huge disappointment. But I played it anyway because 1. PacMan was not my favorite game, not even in my top 10, and 2. it was better than the original game that came with the Atari VCS...Combat! I stopped playing video games for awhile until 1993, the year my boyfriend bought me the original NES, which came with Duck Hunt/Mario Brothers. I preferred Duck Hunt, but when I discovered Legend of Zelda and Tetris, I spent the next few years playing those games for hours. I stopped playing home video games by the end of the 1990s. On a rare occasion I would play the arcade Galaga and Centipede games. Now, on Atari's 50th anniversary, I am becoming very interested in the history of not only Atari, but the video game industry.

  • @nick-playercharacter8583
    @nick-playercharacter8583 Před 4 lety +5

    Wherever there's a gold rush, there will always be ghost towns.

  • @kryztyn127
    @kryztyn127 Před rokem +3

    Honestly this is the reason why Nintendo put their seal of quality.

  • @gemmeliusgrammaticus2509
    @gemmeliusgrammaticus2509 Před 4 lety +5

    Great analysis; superb content, even back in 2009. It’s no wonder your channel has been so successful.

  • @spoonScribble
    @spoonScribble Před 9 lety +11

    Thank you for creating this video. Your knowledge assisted me in creating a documentary for National History Day.

  • @TyBarros_
    @TyBarros_ Před 3 lety +5

    I watched this video when I was 8 years old and it genuinely helped shape me as a person. Because of this video as well as similar videos, I became very interested in gaming history as well as marketing and sales. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for making such good content over the years.

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 Před 3 lety

      Awesome

    • @override7486
      @override7486 Před 2 lety +1

      Wait... it's illegal..., isn't CZcams restricted to people under 13yo??

  • @RaxonXVI
    @RaxonXVI Před 8 lety +43

    am I the only one that sees a lot of the mistakes that the 2600 had made in the mobile game scene today

    • @leungchoihung2465
      @leungchoihung2465 Před 8 lety +6

      no
      i see it too
      WE'RE ALL DEAD
      (also, the Chinese gaming market is kinda crashing)

    • @cbbblue8348
      @cbbblue8348 Před 6 lety +4

      Leung Choi Hung 良采康
      Because chinese is too willingly to spend money,
      My chinese friend spend like 1000 usd on Clash royale,note that he is 16.

    • @davidv4018
      @davidv4018 Před 5 lety

      Mobile is usually free, they make profit with microtransactions: to get there, first you have to get a taste of the game you are going to be addicted for a while. I guess if the microtransaction in mobile gaming goes down, it will be in a slow fashion: it won't just crash.

    • @OniLordMiki
      @OniLordMiki Před 5 lety

      No there's lots of other mouthbreathers who parrot the same shit too.

  • @bLaaaaaah20
    @bLaaaaaah20 Před 7 lety +25

    I was born in 1995 and I came out the womb straight to the PS1, man I had no idea about this video game crash but this was very interesting indeed.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu Před 7 lety +13

      The Crash was only in America. Europe had a massive computer game industry and Japan had a healthy video game industry

    • @RhythmGrizz
      @RhythmGrizz Před 6 lety +1

      I was born in 95 and ps1 was my first console too.
      Although I gravitated towards nintendo as I got older.

    • @scottbreon9448
      @scottbreon9448 Před 6 lety

      alex ojideagu
      America and Canada, although here in Canada we didn't get it as bad as they did in the US

    • @bENOFFICIALMASSIVE
      @bENOFFICIALMASSIVE Před 5 lety

      Don't worry I was born 79 and didn't hear about till not long ago but I'm in Australia. Our first console was an Intellevision and then I got an Master System 2, Megadrive and I even was lucky to get a GameGear. Full SEGA but I love Nintendo more now. My bro had a Gameboy. I did play Nintendo as a kid but not many people had them.

  • @e8root
    @e8root Před 3 lety +4

    NES was successful because it was actually good console and had good games on it

  • @jaazminnrene
    @jaazminnrene Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm here in the future and I would love to see this video remade! I didn't realize it was an old video until you covered which consoles are the current leading consoles, lol!

    • @Bagel_Chip
      @Bagel_Chip Před 2 měsíci

      So why does it need to be remade? History doesn't change.

  • @orwell_fan
    @orwell_fan Před 5 lety +1

    Man this video is 10 years old, and its pure gold, your videos are great man!

  • @Slash27015
    @Slash27015 Před 4 lety +3

    10 years after upload, this is still a fascinating documentary.

  • @MattMcIrvin
    @MattMcIrvin Před 5 lety +8

    A thing that accounts of this often miss is that the economy was also generally bad. There was a brutal US recession in 1981-82, and the unemployment rate was still really high through most of '83. Consumer confidence wasn't high. It's kind of amazing that the videogame business was booming for as long as it was.

  • @ZagnutBar
    @ZagnutBar Před 5 lety +1

    At the Portland Retro Gaming Expo, Tod Frye claimed that the Pac-Man "prototype story" is not true, and that the real reason for the strange port is multifaceted.
    1. Ports of arcade games were new at the time, and programmers were still figuring out how to do it (I find this story a bit spurious since Space Invaders and Missile Command were great arcade ports, and they were released for the Atari years before)
    2. According to Frye, Atari mandated that only "space games" were allowed to have black backgrounds in an effort to prevent screen burn in, which was an issue with CRT televisions of the day.
    3. Frye admits to simply not understanding what elements gamers would feel were important, like the different fruits, tunnels on the side, and blue maze walls with a black background.

  • @dr.awkward9075
    @dr.awkward9075 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Here is a list of Atari's mistakes. Let me know if i left anything out.
    1978: Warner Communications hires Ray Kassar to run Atari.
    1979: Atari does not value David Crane & he leaves to form Activision.
    1980: Atari makes Pac-Man & it sucked.
    1981: Atari makes Donkey Kong & it sucked.
    1981: Atari makes Centipede & it sucked.
    1982: Atari makes Zaxxon & it sucked.
    1982: Atari makes Donkey Kong Jr. & it sucked.
    1982: The Atari 5200 is released & it sucked & failed.
    1982: Atari makes E.T. & it made me cry when i got it in my Easter basket in April 1983.

  • @arthurchase8988
    @arthurchase8988 Před 5 lety +4

    I can't believe you were making videos 10 years ago! (I discovered Gaming Historian recently)

  • @nrais76
    @nrais76 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I was 7 in 1983.

  • @russellcountyonline
    @russellcountyonline Před 2 lety +2

    us older folks think 2009 wasn't that long ago, and then we see video quality.

    • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
      @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Před 2 lety

      This video was uploaded in 240p quality. Even in 2009 we had 1080p. This guy probably couldn’t get a 1080p video on CZcams at the time of upload.

  • @toddhouchin3252
    @toddhouchin3252 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I like the pic of the NES10 at 9:41 with the cut fourth pin.

  • @MikeCantGame
    @MikeCantGame Před 4 lety +5

    This is a great video, but I would love to see a remade version of this and some of the other older videos. Would be a fun idea i think...

  • @2timesNOLA
    @2timesNOLA Před 2 lety +3

    The video game crash of 2025:
    *micro-transaction*

  • @KUwUpa
    @KUwUpa Před 2 měsíci +1

    I got curious and looked up the crash of 83 to find an essay talking about it. Wow this video is _old._ Interesting to find relics of older youtube.

  • @ivybrandyn
    @ivybrandyn Před rokem +1

    I can’t believe this popped up on my feed. I‘ve been blessed by baby Norman. 😭

  • @pcpAnim
    @pcpAnim Před 11 měsíci +3

    A lot of parallels to the games industry today.

  • @BOTFGJSMJ
    @BOTFGJSMJ Před 10 lety +20

    Now days... I wish we could go back when the SNES, Gameboy, and N64 was at the top of the line. :/

    • @yourdissapointeddaddy2057
      @yourdissapointeddaddy2057 Před 6 lety +5

      Please no, I don’t want to get my fat ass up just to blow on the cartridge to play a damn video game.

  • @ClassicTVMan1981X
    @ClassicTVMan1981X Před 9 měsíci +1

    Part of the reason the 1983 video game crash came to be was that for many of the 2600 titles, the developers of those games were given only a fixed amount of time to program them, and only between 2K and 8K ROM to work with for each title.

  • @rodrigofigliolini4963
    @rodrigofigliolini4963 Před 4 měsíci

    I showed my English students this video once, and we spent an entire class talking about it. Much better than boring exercises. Thanks a lot, man. Wish you the very best.

  • @navbuoy
    @navbuoy Před 9 lety +3

    I recall as a kid around '84 - once packed arcades being completely empty even closing down. My friends with Atari systems had on average 5 - 10 cartridges already. As bad as the games were, they were still better than Pong. That was the standard at the time. Arcade games were to home console games like summer movie blockbusters were to weekly TV shows. We knew the home consoles didn't have the power that the arcade machines had but we accepted it. Home computers just blew away most of the consoles of that time. Soon, we all had home computers while our Atari systems collected dust.

  • @GabeTheLemurPlayed
    @GabeTheLemurPlayed Před 3 lety +3

    This hits differently in 2021

  • @Retro90sgamer
    @Retro90sgamer Před 6 měsíci +1

    Cool look at the gaming industry back in the day! Great content yet again!

  • @animegurl23579
    @animegurl23579 Před 8 lety +5

    Thanks so much for this video!! I'm writing my IB Extended Essay on the impact Nintendo had on the Video Game Industry in the 1980's, so this video helped a ton!! :D

  • @melvincordova7097
    @melvincordova7097 Před 5 lety +4

    You should either remaster this video or re-make it somehow to a better video quality. I like your work regardless.

  • @VezerloProductions
    @VezerloProductions Před 7 lety +6

    Norm, you used the AVGN Joke at 6:05. Just pointing that out from his colecovision video which came out on the 25th of september.

  • @michaelschwartz8730
    @michaelschwartz8730 Před 4 lety +2

    I lived through the horrors of 2600 Pac-Man in the 2nd grade. I'm still emotionally scarred. In comparison, E.T. was a masterpiece...if only because there wasn't an incredibly fun arcade game to compare it to

  • @CraftyPeach1
    @CraftyPeach1 Před 8 lety +5

    PC Master race in 1983. 8:03

  • @Walt_Xander94
    @Walt_Xander94 Před 10 lety +94

    I hope a Video Game Crash happens nowadays. DLC is getting out control, some developers & companies give less & less and keep doing do because fanboys defend them, some video games STILL get rushed resulting in glitches & bugs and do I even have to mention the bullshit money-grubbing practices?
    And odds are Capcom, EA, Sega, M$ & Activision and other greedy, terrible companies are going to be the cause of it.

    • @Patchuchan
      @Patchuchan Před 10 lety +8

      Same here gaming is in a terrible state right now.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 Před 10 lety +6

      It won't. All that would happen is that the market will shift to a different market just like it did in 1983.
      Gaming NEVER CRASHED, EVER. It crashed NOWHERE. Gaming went from being on consoles to being home computers. The industry did quite well on computer platforms such as the Commodore 64, DOS PC, Amiga, Macintosh, Apple II thanks to games from EA (which got their start doing computer games for the C64), Lucasarts (known then as Lucasfilm Games), Sierra, Epyx and more.

    • @Walt_Xander94
      @Walt_Xander94 Před 10 lety +11

      snake2006 When did I say anything about gaming itself crashing? I hope a Video Game Crash happens today just like it did back in the 1980s, the video game market desperately needs another change, companies are getting greedy when it comes DLC, games are still getting rushed out the door & now microtransactions are getting bad thanks to the developers of Angry Birds Go charging $100 for *one* thing, which is unlocking the best car in the game.
      After the last Video Game Crash, Atari left so this time, companies like Capcom, Activision, EA & M$, they need to go before they make things worse than they already are.
      Like the $100 microtransaction I just mentioned, people will say "You're not forced to buy it", but blind loyal fanboys will buy such crap, encouraging the developers to keep doing that & it will affect the rest of us because developers would start giving less & less, hoping their loyal fanboys will continue buying their crap and other companies & developers would copy their tactic, just like how other companies are copying Capcom's Disk Locked Content practice.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 Před 10 lety +3

      Atari never left until 1996, the real Atari anyway. Gaming never crashed ever, it's a myth. Gaming was doing just fine all that happened was a market shift.
      Same thing will happen again if they keep this shit up. You are right about DLC being way over used. I never liked the idea to begin with because I knew from the start this will be abused and it was. I remember when you could unlock higher diffculty, different costumes and stuff, now it all needs to be paid for and it's sickening.
      Eventually the bottom is going to fall out and that will be the end of this bullshit Gaming costs have skyrocketed because most developers and publishers aren't budgeting properly. Look at Payday 2, 1 day on the market and it made back it's money so from there out it was pure profit. They knew who their audience was and made the game to cater to that market without going over budget. That is what developers should be doing instead of trying to go after COD's market share which is beginning to drop as proven by the lower sales of Ghosts this year.
      They have also got to stop milking series to death. Does Ubi Soft really need a new Assassin's Creed every year? Do we need a new COD every year? NO. That is why Rockstar is smart, they could do a GTA every year if they wanted but they won't because the know people will get burned out and the quality suffers. That is why they take their time with their games, and it shows. More developers would be smart to do the same thing, but they won't because they are greedy.

    • @Walt_Xander94
      @Walt_Xander94 Před 10 lety

      snake2006 All of that is agreeable but at least with the Assassin's Creed series, the story can be set in pretty much any time period if done right. After ACIII, a Pirate theme wasn't so far behind & we got ACIV, which is fun, so far nothing feels rushed to me,
      I just hope Ubisoft doesn't start rushing things, betray their loyal fanbase & the Assassins Creed series ends up like CoD. The last thing I want to see is a great video series crash & burn, that happened to the Ultima series.

  • @TheTwitchkid
    @TheTwitchkid Před 11 lety +3

    Finally, a show where someone is genuinely informative without attempting to bullshit history with some fumbling jokes.
    You, sir, have acquired yet another subscriber~!

  • @julianb4245
    @julianb4245 Před 4 lety +1

    3:07 My mouth was wide open for a good minute, I couldn't believe how bad it was

  • @franz486
    @franz486 Před 4 měsíci +3

    So to summarize: "this game is shit im never buying a video game again"
    *video game crash occurs*

  • @Tornado1994
    @Tornado1994 Před 9 lety +3

    While the Crash was occurring behind the scene during the 1983 Fiscal year. The effects didn't hit until the Spring of 1984.

  • @LeviAckerman-lb3zr
    @LeviAckerman-lb3zr Před rokem +4

    Now we’re bombarded with games with micro transactions.

  • @josephpasquarella2123
    @josephpasquarella2123 Před rokem +2

    Nintendo essentially saved and created the entire modern gaming industry we enjoy today

  • @redapplefour6223
    @redapplefour6223 Před 6 lety +2

    wow, this is the most 2006-09 thing ive seen ever lol, your new content is unbelievably better in script, presentation and all that stuff. this isn't a bad video but dang, time really does wear

  • @captainobvious9233
    @captainobvious9233 Před 5 lety +21

    I think another crash is on the way, though not as big as the 1983 one.
    Consumers are being alienated by cheap cash grabs, overhyped games not meeting expectations or just being downright terrible, bone headed moves like the recent Diablo Immortal situation with Blizzard, micro transactions, etc. There is a balance between earning a profit and pleasing your customer base. Unfortunately, corporations are so out of touch with their consumers, it's sickening.

    • @ryanchungus8972
      @ryanchungus8972 Před 5 lety +6

      Hopefully it will lead to the destruction of capitalism, and the free market.

    • @dajourphil0soph3r36
      @dajourphil0soph3r36 Před 5 lety +4

      Captain Obvious I think the top dogs just need to fall. When an entity tries to outright prevent competition from being able to take place, they are ultimately attempting to place themselves in a higher position of power and control of their consumers.

    • @Jake-ln6zk
      @Jake-ln6zk Před 5 lety +6

      I don't think we'll see another crash like in 1983, but the big AAA devs and publishers will get a nice kick in the teeth soon if they don't pull their heads out of the sand.
      I do think that out of touch point applies both ways though. Most gamers are pretty clueless about how the industry actually works and want the moon on a platter, and devs/publishers need to start taking feedback more seriously and not just push whatever they feel like. There is some give and take that needs to happen.

    • @Avada_ontop
      @Avada_ontop Před 2 lety

      I doubt that’ll ever happen, games are waaaaaaay too big

  • @brpadington
    @brpadington Před 9 lety +10

    I enjoyed the Atari version of Pacman at the time. I love the chomping sound on it. Ms. Pacman came out later and it was a lot better and about as good as you could possibly do on that platform.

  • @GrandAngel
    @GrandAngel Před 3 lety +1

    So basically, it mostly went like this.
    Company: make game by deadline.
    Producers: *reads* but here it says that the deadline is tomorrow.
    Company: I know what I wrote, do it.
    *2 copies sold*

    • @Gevs
      @Gevs Před 3 lety

      *2 get returned*

  • @BowserTheThird
    @BowserTheThird Před měsícem +1

    Imagine being a time traveler and fixing all of Atari’s mistakes

  • @elgordo2162
    @elgordo2162 Před 2 lety +3

    My take away: as long as there was personal computer and video games, there was always a PC Master race

  • @gamewizardks
    @gamewizardks Před 8 lety +7

    The console market crashed, but videogames in North America were still alive on computer platforms during this time, especially the Commodore 64. It really never took that long for the console market to recover, either. By 1986, Nintendo had already gained an enormous foothold on the market.

  • @kylew.4896
    @kylew.4896 Před 4 lety +1

    Refreshing apolitical history: the gaming historian and new discourses in cultural history

  • @somethingsomething9008
    @somethingsomething9008 Před 3 lety +2

    Companies called Nintendo assholes for their publishing control but they actually saved the industry by it

  • @consolewarrior7145
    @consolewarrior7145 Před 4 lety +4

    Just remember if it wasn't for Nintendo games would be dead today

    • @n1njahawkssecondchannel84
      @n1njahawkssecondchannel84 Před 3 lety +1

      console warrior oh yeah it would be dead you know why people still look up to Nintendo because of how they change the industry.

  • @neilh184
    @neilh184 Před 6 lety +4

    5:14 I had this exact console growing up. With the Atari expansion on the front.
    Watching these vids is amazing. My sister and I grew up playing that exact pac-man And I even beat E.T. I was pretty young. 7 or 8. So they didn't seem like bad games to me at the time.

  • @user-nj3kh9tu3n
    @user-nj3kh9tu3n Před 8 měsíci +1

    Wait, 14 years ago??? This man never ages 🤨🤨

  • @lightwishatnight
    @lightwishatnight Před 5 lety +1

    This video is 1 month away from being 10 years. Man o man, what a ride it's been. Here's to 10 more.

  • @SadoMessiahLP
    @SadoMessiahLP Před 10 lety +20

    5:55 He says the exact same thing as AVGN in his intellivision and colecovision review....

  • @davidcurtis8427
    @davidcurtis8427 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Ahh glorious 240p

  • @MarkMcDaniel
    @MarkMcDaniel Před 5 lety +1

    That remixed Gyromite music midway through took me back. Loved that game!

  • @alexmason4223
    @alexmason4223 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Such a nostalgic video, and very well done. It made me think back when I was 7 and got my first console (N64)