This (Edible) Mushroom Could Kill You

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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
  • Morels are one of the most commonly eaten wild mushrooms. So how did two people die from eating them at a single restaurant in Bozeman, Montana? Alex & George team up to take a deeper look into mushroom chemistry, identification, and cultivation to get a better understanding of this mystery.
    #mushrooms #poison #chemistry
    Credits:
    Executive Producer:
    Matthew Radcliff
    Producers:
    Andrew Sobey
    Elaine Seward
    Darren Weaver
    Writers:
    Alex Dainis
    George Zaidan
    Hosts:
    Alex Dainis
    George Zaidan
    Scientific Consultants:
    Michael Beug, PhD
    Michelle Boucher, PhD
    Alden C. Dirks, PhD
    Leila Duman, PhD
    Annie Weissman, MD
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    Director of Programming for PBS: Gabrielle Ewing
    Assistant Director of Programming for PBS: John Campbell
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Komentáře • 264

  • @ACSReactions
    @ACSReactions  Před 28 dny +44

    Only eat mushrooms that you’re 100% sure are properly identified, even if you bought them online. Also cook ALL mushrooms before eating. And while we definitely don’t recommend cooking and eating Gyromitra esculenta yourself, here’s how they do it in Finland:
    www.ruokavirasto.fi/globalassets/tietoa-meista/julkaisut/esitteet/elintarvikkeet/false_morel_fungi.pdf

    • @thejlx
      @thejlx Před 28 dny +2

      i love the link from Finnish food authority as well lol

    • @isaacm1929
      @isaacm1929 Před 28 dny +2

      Question: Can you just produce hydrazine at large scales with G.esculenta? Cause if you just need to extract the poison precursor and break down with water, its easier than synthesising.
      Maybe CRISP on E.coli for transfering the genes?

    • @Ismakogie05
      @Ismakogie05 Před 28 dny +1

      Been there, done that, in Finland. Available only in the spring, Gyromintra esculenta is indeed deadly. I once was there at the right time, in May, to picked them myself. I boiled and rinsed them
      several times before cooking. I would not trust eating morelles picked by anybody else!
      In Finland late summer and autumn is a real real festival of forest fungi of all kind. BUT: People know what to pick and eat.
      Interestingly, a well-known psychiatrist, head of the local Mental Hospital in the 70's, was saying that he found autumn fungi hunting in the forest very easy: He could just pick everything left untouched by others!
      I suspect his fungi weren't stricktly for culinary purposes....

    • @agranero6
      @agranero6 Před 27 dny

      I once read in a book called The Secret Life of Trees written by a forest engineer in Germany that some fungi that symbiotic to trees are only poisonous in times of difficulty: if they detect the tree is not receiving enough nutrients and consequently they are also too they become poisonous to kill animals in the region, to fertilize the trees in the forest. The book didn't gave any details as how this process happen.
      But I agree the most probable cause is mixing. Even specialists can be wrong in selecting mushroom, the best rule is never eat wild mushrooms (I know this will not deter people from eating truffles).
      Anyway I only eat shiitakes and shimejis, at least here in Brazil they are cultivated by drilling holes on cut wood that are filled with sawmill and spores, not collected in the wild. Now that I know that cultivated mushrooms wee mixed I am rethinking that.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny +1

      I would be very wary of on-line sources. I am not a sinophobe by any means, but there has been enough history with Chinese industries involving toxic materials where they shouldn't be that I'd be highly concerned with obtaining potentially problematic food from there.

  • @dj_laundry_list
    @dj_laundry_list Před 28 dny +144

    I don't get the morel of the story

    • @ACSReactions
      @ACSReactions  Před 28 dny +86

      amanita few minutes to come up with a clever reply

    • @vinniepeterss
      @vinniepeterss Před 28 dny +3

      😂😂

    • @Skiamakhos
      @Skiamakhos Před 28 dny +32

      @@ACSReactions It's quite demorelising, really.

    • @spodefollower
      @spodefollower Před 28 dny +27

      I don’t think there’s mushroom for improvement on these puns

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate Před 28 dny +13

      good job yall are thoroughly cooking this one

  • @alexixeno4223
    @alexixeno4223 Před 28 dny +39

    Fun(gus) bonus fact! You can't overcook mushrooms. This is not to say you can't burn them but you cannot overcook them like you could with veggies getting too soggy or meat becoming too tough.

    • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
      @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Před 27 dny +2

      And mushrooms don't need oil to fry. If you fry too long and they become really dry you may add water however.

    • @dagordon1
      @dagordon1 Před 24 dny

      Indeed: czcams.com/video/XLPLCmwBLBY/video.htmlsi=-8KC2wIHKmtWZb0l

    • @barrymayson2492
      @barrymayson2492 Před 23 dny

      My mother over cooked mushrooms till they looked like burnt bacon. She heard on tv to cook them well so not poison us.

    • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
      @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Před 23 dny

      @@barrymayson2492 She was a bit overzealous.
      But sounds very caring. Did she do that to All mushrooms or just to the ones that could possibly be sketchy? (Like the ones in the video)

    • @jpdemer5
      @jpdemer5 Před 21 dnem

      @@barrymayson2492 And here you are! Obviously it worked.
      Perhaps the texture will survive overcooking, but surely the flavor can be cooked out of existence.

  • @tedhadley62
    @tedhadley62 Před 28 dny +58

    I read in a mushroom book many years ago that the substrate a mushroom grows on can be important. An edible mushroom growing on the wrong substrate can be made toxic. Another reason to be particularly careful of wild mushrooms.

    • @FrigginCatsBruh
      @FrigginCatsBruh Před 28 dny +1

      That's why I'm afraid to grow the morel spores I have 😭

    • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
      @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Před 27 dny +3

      @@FrigginCatsBruh wood ordinary lumber sawdust do?

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny +2

      @@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 If it were that easy, I think cultivated morels would be a more frequent delicacy.

    • @user-hb5qp1tu8z
      @user-hb5qp1tu8z Před 27 dny +1

      I was reading through the comments for something similar to your response, thinking about the differences I've seen in the physical attributes of the Hericiums by way of different substrates. The taste can even vary greatly from growing blocks of the same substrate, depending on where the fruity bodies are harvested from. I personally feel the mushrooms from the lower regions of the blocks taste far more medicinal, if that may even be in proper context, kind of sounds funny IMHO. Higher water content potentially, IDK, I'm very much a novice hobbyist.

    • @camojoe83
      @camojoe83 Před 27 dny +1

      Cultivating morels from spores is very hard. Best to go pick some and clone those successful fruits. Then you throw the inoculant into suitable woodsy soil with sawdust and wood chips in it and they'll go wild.

  • @rianfelis3156
    @rianfelis3156 Před 28 dny +26

    I think you might be giving "trained chefs" a little too much credit. They are after all trained to make sushi well, not to identify mushrooms. Unless something is obviously wrong, they're not going to think too much about if something from a trusted supplier is exactly what it says. There is just way too much emphasis on doing things quickly and repeatably.
    One other thing might be that only some morels have whatever this toxin is, just like some peppers have a lot more capsaicin than others. As for finding out what it is, firing up the NMRI is expensive, and if the toxin tends to not do much, there really hasn't been demand to figure out what it is. This might change though, so that people can feel safer eating morels, and know just how much cooking it takes to denature this toxin.

    • @fantomlimbs
      @fantomlimbs Před 27 dny

      While it's hard to identify a false morel as an amateur, after handling them for a short period it's pretty easy. Side by side even easier. The caps look different, the inside isn't hollow. When I first started I would have to see the inside to be sure. I've never found a false morel, but after a couple years hunting them I could identify them by pictures. It's hard to describe because they are really similar, but they just don't look right most of the time, and cutting them tells the tale.

  • @SpyGenesis
    @SpyGenesis Před 28 dny +29

    8:55 Never stood up and put my hand on my heart this fast.

  • @gl15col
    @gl15col Před 28 dny +28

    This is strange for sure; my family has eaten morels for probably 100 years but ones we picked ourselves from large forest areas in Michigan and nobody has ever gotten sick. And I can't understand eating them raw, fried in butter till tender they are heavenly.

    • @brentoncarter4275
      @brentoncarter4275 Před 28 dny

      yeh this channel is full of sh*t

    • @FrigginCatsBruh
      @FrigginCatsBruh Před 28 dny +4

      They're like steak flavored bacon 😋

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny

      Agree. The season's almost over, and I still haven't done a chicken/morel risotto. Grrrr!

    • @cliffordwagner
      @cliffordwagner Před 26 dny +1

      I've never considered eating morels raw. Butter is necessary. Save the butter after, it's heavenly.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 24 dny

      @@cliffordwagner I actually once made a steak sauce based on Hollandaise technique with morels using that butter. Not exactly slimming, but rather good.

  • @masondula
    @masondula Před 27 dny +5

    Dude I was 100% certain you had the destroying angel and puffball backwards. I was leaning in close to my screen looking for something I'd missed thinking "well if they have an experienced mycologist working on the video - it's early in the morning so maybe I'm confu... oh you did swap them".
    If you aren't sure, you can always cut them open too (like the lil animation) and generally the amanita in that stage will obviously not be a puffball as far as I know.

  • @bbadamb8675
    @bbadamb8675 Před 28 dny +15

    Love the call out to cook mushrooms because they taste better "fight me." 🤣🤣

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny

      Somewhat odd, since I thought the notion of cooking mushrooms improving the flavor was entirely uncontroversial.

  • @forabug594
    @forabug594 Před 28 dny +22

    In addition to the lack of a full scale metabolome/proteome investigation and annotation of the morel, I think it’s also likely that some of the toxins are not always present in the unharmed product rather in a “prodrug” form that isn’t toxic to the host morel cells, so metabolome/proteome annotation might miss them if the researchers aren’t aware of the nontoxic precursors. We see this in other organisms like cyanogenic glycosides in plants.

    • @user-pe4bv7vm2y
      @user-pe4bv7vm2y Před 27 dny +4

      Exactly. That is why some apple juices give me a severe headache. It depends on how they were extracted. If enough of the seeds were crushed in the process and contained enough cyanogenic glycosides which didn't get broken down by heat during pasteurization, my theory is that was causing my headaches. Of course, this is purely anecdotal and a population size of 1 so I could be wrong.

    • @forabug594
      @forabug594 Před 27 dny

      @@user-pe4bv7vm2y Oh man, sorry to hear that that happens to you. I hope you figure out what causes them so you can either avoid them or find a solution.

  • @Thegingerbreadm4n
    @Thegingerbreadm4n Před 28 dny +13

    4:01"you would not have known" *ANYONE WHOSE EVEN REMOTELY STUDIED MYCOLOGY* "YEAH WE KNEW"

    • @ACSReactions
      @ACSReactions  Před 28 dny +16

      Ah, I see our mycologist bait is already getting some bites

  • @me0101001000
    @me0101001000 Před 28 dny +23

    I was foraging just this weekend. I found plenty of dryad's saddles, wood ears, scarlet cups, inky caps, fairy caps, and even some coral crowns. But I was disappointed that I didn't find a Morel. Now I'm a lot less disappointed.

    • @lyndafjellman3315
      @lyndafjellman3315 Před 28 dny +1

      I have morels growing in my garden.

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate Před 28 dny +2

      aw, don't be too demorelised

    • @me0101001000
      @me0101001000 Před 28 dny

      @@alveolate aw come on, there isn't mushroom in this comment section for these puns

    • @isaacm1929
      @isaacm1929 Před 28 dny +1

      @@me0101001000 Nah, cap

    • @FrigginCatsBruh
      @FrigginCatsBruh Před 28 dny

      ​@@lyndafjellman3315how are you doing it? What substrate? Have you already had a successful/safe harvest?

  • @IanGrams
    @IanGrams Před 27 dny +7

    It's nice to see Alex and George teaming up for a video. Really interesting topic, albeit frustrating there was no clear conclusion to the incident. But I guess that's par for the course with science. We have learned much about our world but there's still so much more to learn. I hope some mycologists get to the bottom of true morel toxicity someday.

  • @ronaldlee3537
    @ronaldlee3537 Před 27 dny +4

    Not a wild mushroom eater, but I know people who are, morel mushrooms must be thoroughly cooked. They can not be eaten raw. ETA Personally, I will just buy this stuff from the local Asian supermarket, the last time I look they have like 10 kinds, in addition to the commonly encountered button mushroom.

  • @Axman6
    @Axman6 Před 28 dny +23

    If we’re going to use the Greek ‘octopodes’, at least use the use the Greek pronunciation- oc-top-o-dees
    _ducks before the Grammar police tell me how wrong I am_
    Edit: wrote this before getting to the end of the video, thanks for getting to the truly important topic! Great video ❤

    • @AdrianLee
      @AdrianLee Před 28 dny +4

      Heck, I just commented exactly this 😂

  • @johnford7847
    @johnford7847 Před 28 dny +8

    I remember reading that there is at least one anecdotal case of wild mushrooms gathered and identified by expert collectors which resulted in poisonings. In this case, the mushrooms were taken from a site which had previously yielded this species and been enjoyed without incident. No explanation was put forth to explain this. Good video. The chemistry of fungi is really fascinating and relatively poorly characterized. For example, some fungal pigments are being studied as natural replacements for FD&C food colors.

  • @andiralosh2173
    @andiralosh2173 Před 28 dny +6

    Clearly we need better mushroom cooking education. I suspect people think all edible mushrooms are the same because we're not taught. They should be treated more like meats, in the sense that if you don't know how to prepare them, you... shouldn't be preparing them

  • @karmakazi219
    @karmakazi219 Před 28 dny +6

    G. esculenta is a super-delicious mushroom. I used to collect them, along with morels, all the time (they often grow in the same habitat / season). I never went through the trouble of double-parboiling them but one good parboil + discard the water and soak in fresh water is probably minimum safe practice. I never had a problem with G. esculenta BUT one time, as a kid, my family cooked up a whole bunch of morels and ate them (way more than any normal person would eat in one sitting). I got extremely sick. As I recall, it was mostly just lots of vomiting. I basically spent the night in the bathroom. I'm not sure if it was improper cooking or something else. No one else got sick but I was the only non-adult so I suspect that I just ate way too much. That turned me off of morels for a long time but I eventually came back around and I enjoy them, in moderation, again.

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo Před 28 dny +21

    3:49 baby Destroying Angel sounds the same as Baby-Destroying Angel, which sounds like a Biblical punishment come to life 😳

    • @AlexanderTzalumen
      @AlexanderTzalumen Před 27 dny +1

      Well, it's more than toxic enough to totally destroy several babies.

    • @chrisbalfour466
      @chrisbalfour466 Před 27 dny

      @@AlexanderTzalumen Who feeds mushrooms to babies? Baby food is mush, not mushrooms.

  • @ubiquitous_phd4243
    @ubiquitous_phd4243 Před 28 dny +14

    8:25 even if the methyl groups are implied, a great many of us write them anyway to avoid confusion, particularly in public education/teaching contexts. I’m sure there are plenty who feel strongly about not using a “methyl cap,” but I’m a proponent of them as it encourages clarity and a lack of ambiguity, particularly when looking at structures drawn in a hurry or without a lot of care (as many students, grad and undergrad alike, are want to do).

  • @zachb8012
    @zachb8012 Před 28 dny +6

    Why would you even want to eat raw morels? The whole point of the morel is that they soak up all the sauce and have a pleasant texture.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny +1

      Actually, you want to keep the sauce very simple else it overwhelms the flavor of the morel.

  • @danbance5799
    @danbance5799 Před 28 dny +20

    "All mushrooms are edible. Some are only edible once." And this is why I'll never eat wild mushrooms.

  • @squessi
    @squessi Před 28 dny +9

    Growing up my uncle would bring my grandma morels he'd gathered by the bag full. I can't remember the specifics of it but I recall she'd soak them in salt water for like a day and do some rinsing process before she'd fry them all up. I don't seem to recall anyone in my family ever getting sick, so maybe there's something to that process. Delicious mushrooms!

    • @octosquatch.
      @octosquatch. Před 27 dny +1

      That's to get the little worms out

    • @camojoe83
      @camojoe83 Před 27 dny

      That just kills the hugs. Not even real necessary if you cook em.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny

      @@camojoe83 I'm not sure I want that extra protein, and without a brine soak, there's a good chance of sand in the food which is rather unappetizing.

    • @camojoe83
      @camojoe83 Před 27 dny

      @@christopheroliver148 i didn't say not to cut and rinse em, lol.. they're full of ants sometimes.. the brine soak is just bad for your blood pressure 95% of the time. You want em salted? Salt the butter you fry em in.
      Besides, saltwater soaks ruin the spores, and that's the only reason to spend any time soaking them, really.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny +1

      @@camojoe83 Odd that my mother's cardiologist wasn't hyperfixated on salt. The rather light brine soak at most seasons the mushrooms slightly, and you adjust your seasoning during the rest of the preparation.
      Since they are going from the brine directly to the pan, I don't see what you're on about with spores? Are you just trolling me?

  • @tedbomba6631
    @tedbomba6631 Před 26 dny +3

    Well, my love for Morrell mushrooms has suddenly ended unless I am doing the preparation and final cooking of them.
    Thanks for this excellent video to all of those who brought it to our attention !

  • @velisvideos6208
    @velisvideos6208 Před 28 dny +6

    Thanks for this very informative video. Here in Finland we really do pick and enjoy the G. Esculenta. In our obscure language they are called "korvasieni", which literally means ear mushroom. Well, they do look like malformed ears, don't they? Anyway, I have always wondered who, why and when realised they have to be boiled twice before consumption. Is this ancient knowledge or just a recent innovation?

  • @nathanielgregg543
    @nathanielgregg543 Před 27 dny +2

    Mushrooms are good at having compounds in them that are very near to ones that kill animals. This means if they stay around their siblings, they will having plenty of food to eat. So mushrooms that live near a lot of their relatives learn how to become toxic to the animals that are eating mushroom indiscriminately. That’s why some mushrooms use so many sexes to reproduce, they are trying to protect as well as reproduce.

  • @bentompson5994
    @bentompson5994 Před 26 dny +3

    When he did the Puffball comparison I was instantly like whoever made this slide clearly cannot be trusted!
    You guys really had me there.😂
    Very good video from identification, preparation, supply chain and gene transfer....Great Job

  • @Ittiz
    @Ittiz Před 28 dny +9

    @4:00 I was like yeah, he's got that backwards ☠

    • @Thegingerbreadm4n
      @Thegingerbreadm4n Před 28 dny +6

      I know, anyone who knows anything about mushrooms knew that.

    • @FrigginCatsBruh
      @FrigginCatsBruh Před 28 dny

      Yeah that part was stupid. If he didn't mislabel them I knew which was which, had me second guessing myself 😅

  • @playgroundchooser
    @playgroundchooser Před 28 dny +5

    Damn, I loves you guys! What a great episode.
    I hadn't heard half of that, and I live an hour away from Bozeman. A+ reporting.

  • @misinformationwithrandy
    @misinformationwithrandy Před 28 dny +9

    77 people... [camera jumps] "You know they didn't have 77 bathroom stalls." Ha ha ha!

  • @caitygart
    @caitygart Před 28 dny +5

    I must say I absolutely love the outfit. That top and those earrings are perfect for the video!

    • @IanGrams
      @IanGrams Před 27 dny

      Much agreed, Dr. Dainis is quite good at finding topical earrings or clothes for videos 😁

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny

      I just looked. Call me completely unobservant, but I didn't even notice when I first viewed the video.

  • @vizanonn1728
    @vizanonn1728 Před 28 dny +3

    They are definitely not one of the worlds most sought after, and eaten "wild" mushroom.... But they are tasty, and with a death rate less than that is way less than someone who is walking across the street.... I think its okay.

  • @orobeam
    @orobeam Před 26 dny +2

    I grew up in montana and have eaten morels all my life without issues (that i noticed? Lol??)...but now I have a new fear unlocked.

  • @user-ow2yr4nu4z
    @user-ow2yr4nu4z Před 28 dny +2

    My dad grew up harvesting and eating these shrooms and had always told me not to eat them raw. I actually hunt shroom but these don't grow here and I only will harvest saffron milk caps (very easy to.identify non are poison but partly toxic so you could feel sick but not die) and some boletus mushrooms. O forgot my dad always said to stay away from the false morel the Coral mushroom.

  • @JWentu
    @JWentu Před 27 dny +1

    Love you guys and the way you explain things

  • @NiallBoggins
    @NiallBoggins Před 26 dny +1

    I've eaten morels a few times that I've picked, with not a single problem. I always cut them into slices and fry them in butter. BUT, a friend of mine put some raw morels on a salad, and from what I heard, that was a very unpleasant experience. Waking up in the middle of the night with a pounding headache and vomiting.

  • @ka-mai
    @ka-mai Před 28 dny +3

    Sorry, a salmon-en-morel sushi? That just spells disaster.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny

      I like a good sashimi, but that combo does indeed sound wretched even if completely food safe.

    • @ka-mai
      @ka-mai Před 27 dny

      @@christopheroliver148 it was a 'salmonella' joke XD

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 Před 27 dny +3

    It's blowing my mind that people will just eat raw mushrooms. First of all, that doesn't even sound appetizing, but secondly...I mean, they grow in dirt. Just like other veggies, they can be hard to clean completely and still contain bacteria from the dirt, and that doesnt even include the other substrate issues with growing mushrooms if you aren't careful (And while I hate "China = Bad" xenophobia, the chinese market does have a LOT less regulation around stuff like that).
    Cook your dang mushrooms people!

    • @johnnyfish6051
      @johnnyfish6051 Před 26 dny +2

      Raw button mushrooms are served in salad bars .

  • @mencken8
    @mencken8 Před 27 dny +1

    While I was growing up, morel gathering was a springtime activity regarded by some as an official state pastime. We got morels, ate morels, knew and were related to people who hunted and ate morels. Never once remember hearing of anyone getting sick from doing so. Perhaps some people are eating them raw, which we never did.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny +1

      The thing that always struck me as strange were the folk who gathered them just to sell. I can understand selling as they command a high price, but I can't imagine not keeping at least a few for oneself.

    • @mencken8
      @mencken8 Před 27 dny +2

      @@christopheroliver148 I never heard of anyone selling them, either. What we found never lasted long enough to sell!

  • @Rungus27
    @Rungus27 Před 28 dny +1

    in the case of the morel, is it possible that what's making people sick is an enzyme that's denatured by heat rather than a discreet toxic organic compound? Perhaps there are conditions that make the morel express these enzymes when they are stressed by something in it's environment.

  • @christopheroliver148
    @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny +1

    Maybe it's just me being a Michigander, but for me, the distinction between the true morels and false is perfectly clear. Sadly, the season is drawing to a close.

  • @chrisn8349
    @chrisn8349 Před 27 dny

    This format is great, looking forward to watching more videos like this.
    (Also that "puffball" did not not look like any puffball I've ever seen.)

  • @bersl2
    @bersl2 Před 28 dny +1

    I don't eat mushrooms at all because they all give me indigestion, but this sure doesn't make me jealous of missing out.

  • @EasterWitch
    @EasterWitch Před 27 dny

    My grandmother taught me how to pick and cook morels (I grew up in Northern Scandinavia). Even with the so called "safe" morel I would still parboil them the same as so called "false" morels.
    Oh, also: I was so confused when you called the wrong mushroom a puffball, because I saw immediately which was which.

  • @KristiChan1
    @KristiChan1 Před dnem +1

    Definitely dislike how vague the conclusion was by the FDA, CDC and Montana Health.

  • @75viking75
    @75viking75 Před 28 dny +2

    I’m from Michigan and up here in the northern forest, we eat morels every Mother’s Day! My family has been picking and eating them for generations. However, the picking season is only for a few weeks in late April/early May for the entire year…

    • @75viking75
      @75viking75 Před 27 dny

      For clarification, we always fried them in butter… the limited availability would also seem to suggest that even if there is bioaccumulating toxins, unless you eat them raw, you should be fine. Our family hasn’t ever had any problems related to a morel dinner. As well, these meals often weren’t dominated by the fried morel side dish, annually.

    • @christopheroliver148
      @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny

      @@75viking75 Depends on the toxin. If the soil had heavy metal accumulation, I'd be wary of taking edible mushrooms from there.

  • @like90
    @like90 Před 28 dny

    One time we picked morel mushrooms, but we never ended up eating them because they kinda freaked me out.i always felt like i missed out, but now I'm really glad we didn't eat them.

  • @attekinnula4406
    @attekinnula4406 Před 27 dny +1

    Yeah, we eat Gyromitra esculenta here in Finland. They're a REALLY delicious, especially as a creme-based soup 🙂. I regularly harvest and eat them, so do plenty of people, and they're regularly served in restaurants. But yes, you do need to know how to prepare them because - as said here - they contain neurotoxins. I actually googled to find out news of poisoning cases, but couldn't find any (did not do a thorough check) and I think they would be all over the news here, at least if something like would happen in a restaurant.

  • @DH-bf9xb
    @DH-bf9xb Před 10 dny

    Great video! Question... does it matter HOW you cook them? Is it the heat or the heat + water... as they're normally boiled. I sometimes over roast mushrooms in oil.

  • @maxnova9763
    @maxnova9763 Před 23 dny

    7:11 Skipping over this story is almost criminal. I can’t be the only one who wants to know more about that devastating mayhem.

  • @bruhhhh625
    @bruhhhh625 Před 27 dny

    improper food storage really likely imo because mushrooms can have other species spores on them, left out or in a humid environment I can only imagine that there is a possibility of something growing on the morel that could be potentially toxic.

  • @cliffordwagner
    @cliffordwagner Před 26 dny +2

    You [rude person], I was seriously questioning my identification on the puffball when you had them reversed. Not fair.

  • @polcastillo6272
    @polcastillo6272 Před 24 dny

    Great video. Tot i que molt inesperada la dita 😂 11:08

  • @fredochs
    @fredochs Před 26 dny +1

    Can't we just send this video to the CDC and say "Hey, could you include an appendix to your report?" Please? :)

  • @pdubb9754
    @pdubb9754 Před 27 dny

    In my area, Gyromitra escuelenta appears at the same time as Morchella elata. Probably true in most regions where they co-occur. But they are pretty different in appearance. When I see the false morels around the pines in my yard, I know it is time to go to my spot to look for the black morels. Good to hit on the point about not eating raw.

  • @evanbasnaw
    @evanbasnaw Před 27 dny

    4:18 Perfect score for me, but I've been looking at morels my whole life.

  • @jessstuart7495
    @jessstuart7495 Před 27 dny +1

    And that's why I deep-fry all my morels!

  • @brandonkelley6500
    @brandonkelley6500 Před 27 dny

    Loved the inaturalist hoodie... I have the app and its really cool. Great for trying to identify bugs around the house, or what I like is mushrooms and flowers on hiking trails. I think I first learned about the app from an "Its okay to be smart" video (before the name change)

  • @JuliusUnique
    @JuliusUnique Před 28 dny

    morels grow next to the street in my area at tiny gras spots in the city, which I wont eat since they are contaminated with street air and dog pee, but I also know a spot at an apple tree where I found 3 morels

  • @bmiller949
    @bmiller949 Před 24 dny

    I am so glad I can recognize the correct mushroom for Psilocybin.

  • @johnnyfish6051
    @johnnyfish6051 Před 26 dny +2

    Verpa bohemica is a morel. Gyromitra is commonly eaten in the USA. They where artificially grown in China??? How did the CDC get a Chinese co. to cooperate with them on distribution of there product?? I dont think so.

  • @johnfoster6412
    @johnfoster6412 Před 24 dny

    When I was a kid, we had to stay at a neighbour's place while my little brother was born 180 miles away. While we were there we were fed morels - and I'd never tasted anything so great. I was about 10 years old. When Mum came back we asked for morels to eat. It turned out that our neighbour had been giving bags of them to Mum for months, who had promptly thrown them away because "they looked poisonous".

  • @bonnieballew7762
    @bonnieballew7762 Před 24 dny

    We always soaked our morels in salt water for at least a half hour before cooking them. They have little white worms in them that the salt water drives out.

  • @octosquatch.
    @octosquatch. Před 27 dny +2

    Many wild mushrooms should never be eaten raw, morels included.

  • @erikjohnson9223
    @erikjohnson9223 Před 23 dny

    NMR would only be useful after some sort of very thorough / multifactorial separations operation (probably various forms of chromatography). It will help identify pure compounds (at least if they are already known and have a published spectrum), but mushrooms (& any life form) are a complicated mix of many chemicals. Overlapping spectra tell you basically nothing.

  • @manualdidact
    @manualdidact Před 28 dny +1

    Issues like this make me glad that I find all spore-releasing fungal reproductive organs to be disgusting ingredients that ruin any meal I find them in. Living with this epicurean disability just feels safer than actually wanting to eat things that appear indistinguishable from other things that can kill me -- or worse, give me sudden public diarrhea out of range of a bathroom.

  • @DeRien8
    @DeRien8 Před 26 dny

    ABSOLUTELY knew that the labels for puffball and destroying angel "egg" were switched!! Puffballs sort of have a muffin-like shape from the base, especially when they're not massive. The mushrooms that emerge from an "egg" like the destroying angel, stinkhorns, etc. have that eggy shape because of the stalk developing inside and putting more vertical pressure on the outer membrane than they do to the sides.
    Of course, I have the benefit of foraging/studying mushrooms for decades, with plenty of puffball encounters of many species. I can easily imagine a complete novice seeing a potato-y lump of fungus and assuming it's a puffball.

  • @Curly3107
    @Curly3107 Před 26 dny

    Verpa bohemica is not toxic and tastes similar to morels. However, you should avoid foraging them as they are quite rare in most regions.

  • @willcool713
    @willcool713 Před 27 dny

    The morels here locally are about five times that size, or usually more. I've picked and eaten them many, many times. They are super easy to identify correctly. Industrially packaged wild edibles are rarely safe, in my experience -- trust is not highly valued in business. Wild crafted items can be okay, but you've gotta watch the source. In this case, I suspect it was a pest that left residue -- some snails or slugs could do that easily.

  • @herzogsbuick
    @herzogsbuick Před 23 dny

    ooo speaking of chitin, what about people who eat softshell crabs for instance? or insects? is that bad?

  • @SamRossman
    @SamRossman Před 27 dny +4

    My grandpa would always harvest and eat false morels, like his whole life despite his ENTIRE family begging him not to. Dude lived to 97 and died of lung cancer even though he never smoked…. Life is bonkers.

  • @jpdemer5
    @jpdemer5 Před 21 dnem

    These days, you fire up the GC-MS. (The NMR comes later, if you run into anything new.) Seems like an easy, and useful, publication for whoever wants to do it.

  • @msaditu
    @msaditu Před 28 dny +1

    Can we all appreciate Dr. Dainis's shirt and accessories? 😊🍄

  • @exiletomars
    @exiletomars Před 27 dny +2

    This video does not mention the name of the Montana restaurant that had the health code violations and two people dying due to eating at it. The restaurant is called Dave's Sushi and is still open.

  • @ClumsyPineapple
    @ClumsyPineapple Před 27 dny +1

    Submit a FOIA request to find out what they tested for, maybe? Because now I want to know.

  • @michaelniederer2831
    @michaelniederer2831 Před 27 dny +1

    Good report well presented, and I didn't even mind that it was light on the chemistry. Thanks.

  • @hybridizedhere
    @hybridizedhere Před 27 dny

    Clicked on this video and didnt expect it to mention the incident with Daves sushi
    Basically noone eats there anymore from what ive seen passing by now
    I live in a family of foragers and it was alarming that they let that happen, guess its not common knowledge that you have to basically char shrooms to make them safe to eat

  • @dondobbs9302
    @dondobbs9302 Před 21 dnem

    It's Octopi and did they test for Botulism? (I would hope!) Chinese suppliers and they're cultivated, not (local? really?) foraged. What did they grow them on/with? How were they preserved and packed? I'd be worried about dried then reconstituted raw ANYTHING.

  • @michaelmcchesney6645
    @michaelmcchesney6645 Před 28 dny

    While I enjoy some mushroom flavor in some foods, I am not a big fan of eating mushrooms themselves. This video has made me even less inclined to do so. Ironically, I was planning to cook one of my favorite dishes for dinner as soon as I finished this video. To make it, I mix a container of sour cream with a can of Campbell's condensed cream of celery and a can of Campbell's condensed cream of mushroom soup. I then cover some sliced chicken with the sauce, bake it for 45 minutes, and serve it over rice. I'm still going to make that for dinner, but I think I'll bake it for at least an extra 5 minutes.
    Oh, and I would go with octopi rather than octopuses or octopodes.

    • @jevinday
      @jevinday Před 28 dny

      The only time I've eaten mushrooms is for psychedelic effects, I hate the taste 😂

  • @arizona-explorer
    @arizona-explorer Před 28 dny +1

    Perhaps you should consult the great Paul Stamets. He is one of the leading experts.

    • @ACSReactions
      @ACSReactions  Před 28 dny +10

      Fun fact: one of the scientific consultants for us on this video was actually a mentor of Paul Stamets.

    • @ACSReactions
      @ACSReactions  Před 28 dny +5

      We take factual accuracy seriously, so if you find any specific factual errors, please let us know!

    • @TheCian19
      @TheCian19 Před 28 dny +1

      ​@@brentoncarter4275it's not clickbait

    • @munyor8135
      @munyor8135 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@ACSReactionsnear 4:29 upper right corner isn't a Verpa sp.too? It's not a Gyromitra

  • @ep7672
    @ep7672 Před 27 dny

    It blows my mind that we can pinpoint a toxin after bad symptoms, but it is unlikely to perceive the problem before human consumption when it happens. It sounds extremely risky

  • @msaditu
    @msaditu Před 28 dny

    I have a bag of dried morels in my pantry. I am throwing it out now.

  • @FrigginCatsBruh
    @FrigginCatsBruh Před 28 dny +1

    Octopi, fight me.

  • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
    @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Před 27 dny

    Musings on multi-faceted morals of morels, with multiple meticulous medical morsels makes my mind markedly mirthful.

  • @kuronosan
    @kuronosan Před 28 dny +2

    tag team

  • @joeanderson8839
    @joeanderson8839 Před 25 dny

    I would eat morels if I harvested and cooked it myself. I would make sure I positively make an identification. I would eat a small amount of well cooked mushroom before I ate this small amount. Then I would wait to see if I had a reaction before I ate more. Even if a mushroom is safe to eat, food poisoning and other environmental factors can cause poisoning in any food you eat. Mushrooms are more related to meat than plants. I would not eat a raw hamburger that I found in the woods.

  • @RippieFarmer
    @RippieFarmer Před 27 dny

    Any wild edible mushroom not cooked properly can be toxic.

  • @XSpImmaLion
    @XSpImmaLion Před 28 dny

    I'll be sticking to tame champignons and Japanese mushrooms.... which I'll still thoroughly cook because why raw?

  • @tomarmadiyer2698
    @tomarmadiyer2698 Před 28 dny +1

    7:06 to 7:35
    Glorious

  • @kevinroberts781
    @kevinroberts781 Před 28 dny

    It grew in contaminated soil or it wasn't the mushroom at all

  • @rubezahlmountainworks7974

    I ate one yesterday!

  • @quinn2826
    @quinn2826 Před 27 dny

    Actively begging u to tell me WHERE you got your mushroom shirt

    • @ACSReactions
      @ACSReactions  Před 26 dny

      It is from Anthropologie! I rented it specifically for this video but love it so much I’m keeping it!! -Alex

  • @ket7926
    @ket7926 Před 22 dny

    ok hear me out,
    AI would be great here to identify the small differences in the images of real mushrooms and identify dangerous types that are mixed in
    I need an app like that

  • @octosquatch.
    @octosquatch. Před 27 dny

    I most definitely knew wich was the puffball. Not that hard if you know what to look for.

  • @canerbakar-jv2si
    @canerbakar-jv2si Před 25 dny +3

    Mushrooms did wonders in my life. I suffered severe trauma several years ago after divorce with my husband. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Spent my whole life fighting cptsd. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my son recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

    • @bellodavid7749
      @bellodavid7749 Před 25 dny

      So great to hear. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here. and mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on this planet i wish people would all realize. they could solve a lot of problems, more than just mental treatments, environmental clean up; the possibilities are endless with fungus.

    • @OskhelDavid
      @OskhelDavid Před 25 dny

      Hey mate! I have severe anxiety and depression and
      take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those
      psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Belgium don't know much about these. I'm so glad they help you. Really need them too.

    • @DericBush
      @DericBush Před 25 dny

      YES very sure of Dr.medshrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

  • @atalhlla
    @atalhlla Před 24 dny

    Um Akshullee, it’s “oc-top-oh-dees”…
    Octopodes NUTS

  • @christopheroliver148
    @christopheroliver148 Před 27 dny

    Methinks you meant "just because it's _uncommon,_ doesn't mean it's _incorrect."_

  • @af-gt9lu
    @af-gt9lu Před 28 dny

    i literally just bought a pack of dried mushrooms 6 hours ago............ now im scared to eat them cause apparently i cant trust distributors enough

  • @nanwelch1394
    @nanwelch1394 Před 28 dny

    Perhaps the morels were growing next to a poisonous plant/herb....

  • @faenethlorhalien
    @faenethlorhalien Před 28 dny

    Having literally anything else you can eat, why do so many people in rich countries still keep risking it and giving shrooms a chance? They're not a sane dietary choice, for fuck's sake. Eat a steak. Or a slab of tofu.