Personal choice is great but when victims are involved person choice is not an option. There is no justification for taking someone's life when you can easily choose from thousands of wonderful nutritious delicious healthy foods that don't cause suffering and death to anyone. Excellent vegan outreach, your patience is outstanding, I hope they will watch "Dominion" and other videos recommended.
Well said. If you know better, you should do better. Their personal choice is an act of violence, which in most cases goes against the kind of person they want to be.
Saying it doesn't cause suffering and death to anyone is a bit extended . Maybe vegans should be realistic as not to give non vegans any chance. We don't live in a vegan world and so non vegan techniques are used that cause suffering and death to many animals ,even organic would cause deaths , humans presence itself causes death of other animals as we need to make space to feed ourself ,obviously it's not intentional but not going to improve either for animals if you guys going to act like everything is fine. Anyway I can't blame you much, since whatever we are purchasing and doing is causing great suffering to other humans and non humans but it's hidden in a way like animal ag industry ,also not clear alternatives but can be done by reducing consumption to as minimum as possible.
@@abhayagarwal5097 you are right, we unfortunately have to live in a non vegan world . Because of irresponsible farming practices that vegans have no control over, insects , small animals are mowed down, killed by pesticides ,loss their habitat etc. Vegans don't have the answers, we are not perfect, but at least we are trying,which is more than can be said for the majority of so called humanity. The difference between meat eaters and vegans is that vegans don't deliberately abuse and murder anyone. If you really care about crop deaths and I doubt you do ,stop eating meat,70% of crops are grown to feed the animals. How can you morally justify taking someone's life when you can easily choose something else to eat ? There is no justification for it. Do you spend your time speaking out against injustices ? Or do you just like to comment to others that care and are speaking up for the voiceless ?
Hmm, the "I don't want to think about it" excuse. The sleeping beauty defence. Just be unconscious to the terrible world and try and be "safe" your whole life. See how well that works out in the long run.
The appeal to futility is indeed an annoying one. But, I think that Millie got the message eventually. It was her friend that became super defensive in the end Thanks for watching Nataly 🤗💚
Hehe...how cheeky! Thanks for the shoutout Labby Boi! Sorry I didn't make the full premiere. I was at the gym and filming some stuff to help out a fellow Vegen Fwen I'm coaching, but here's some more corns to make up for it! 🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽
Roughly 16:30 - if animal products had a picture of the slaughter process or the factory farm people would definitely think twice before buying it. They did something similar with cigarette packaging here in Australia, they have graphic images of what might happen to you if you keep smoking. (If you want to see the government ad about it, its in my videos called "Quit Now" - yes, its from 2006 😮) That kind of thing should definitely be on all animal products. Full transparency.
I fully agree. If more people knew what they are paying for then less people would buy what these products. After all, nobody likes to see the slaughterhouse footage 💚🤗
If i was cooking a dog infront of most of these people or a nice cute kitten they would probably try and change what i was doing. Its a simple fact. How dare they push their preferences on me hey.
Roughly 19:00...GARYY!!!! And damn, she's still so defensive. Well, if she is so confident of hwr choice, it should be no problem to watch the GARYY speech and Dominion to confirm hwr position...right?
Nice video. When the girl was making excuses about things they use on veg etc in supermarkets, you could have said well what do they put into animals to make them grow faster etc? She just put up the selfish barrier, & was only thinking about herself & her habits, to the point she was on the attack.
I think she would reply with “well, that’s why i don’t buy meat from the supermarket”. But, either way, it’s a good response indeed. Thanks for that 🤗💚
So many people use justifications and excuses and try to rationalise that staying the same is a non action/no worse than they already were Only thing is their "non action" is an act of violence.
@@FreddieAland yet meat eaters still make excuses. This is not about you or me this is about saving animals from unnecessary exploitation and killing.
@@FreddieAl no one's dictating anything and saying insults in your comment shows your true character. People are trying to inform you what's going on in the meat and dairy Industries but you seem to be turning a blind eye to the truth because you are only thinking of yourself and your taste buds. I would never put my taste buds over a life.
@@FreddieAl condescending is all in your head. I did no such thing. I told you the truth and you just don't care. I don't know why you go on vegan sites if you don't feel anything for the animals Terror your own health and the environment. All you're doing is wasting people's time when good people come on here and really need to know the truth. If it wasn't for activists I would never have known the truth myself. It got me to do research to find out if everything they say was true and it was. When did you lose your compassion?
@@FreddieAl if you are getting superiority out of it that is on you and in your head only. Stop putting words on your comment that has nothing to do with what I said. This is exactly why I would rather talk to someone face to face then there will be no misunderstandings. Again the truth is the truth. And when I say good people I mean people that come on here with an open mind whether they are vegan or non-vegan.
13:54 ask if they would advocate to change someone's opinion if they saw someone stomp on a dog a few feet away from you during this conversation, and when you confront them about the dog they say 'hey, its MY opinion to stomp on this dog and its MY choice' .. Ask if they believe that person should change their opinion or choice ... Or not?
@@veganpowerlab and once they say "well that's different though!!" .... Do not back down. "Ok but we don't make moral decisions on who gets to live/die simply based on differences, because we're not Nazi's right? Now can you please answer the question, because it seems like it would be a simple answer..."
@@FreddieAl exactly, the dog is innocent. Just as all non-human animals are. Nonsense is using poor justifications for perpetuating animal abuse for your sensory pleasure. Choose kindness.
Indeed, but seems like Millie (the girl on the left), even though she used the arguments, and she went through them; she seemed genuine when bringing them up. And she listened and was open. Her friend, not so much
@@veganpowerlab I get the analogy, but just because your value system views we and the animals as equal, doesn’t mean she thinks the same way. I’m not hating on what you’re doing , but there’s no chance that these women or majority of people for that matter think the way you do. If it were to be the case everyone would avoid and meat and meat eaters like they would rapists. Not even inmates treat the rapists as their equals. Now should that majority be thinking the way they do, that’s a whole different conversation. But regardless of that the point still stands that they don’t value these things as equal.
Good job in general, but if I can give advice, focus more in their interest about animals. How much do they care, what animals they care about, why they care about only some of them, how they define animal abuse etc. Also, they don't seem to have understood the supply-demand mechanism. Just say to them "I'm not here to dictate anything, I'm just trying to understand if you care about animals. If you pay for their abuse, that is the opposite of caring."
Roughly 17:20 - Supply and Demand. You should have some AI generated art for supply and demand, or maybe actually for all the common arguments and talking points. Ive made aome actually for a few things like Crop Deaths, i should send em your way (even though you could probably make better ones)
If you wanna join we the free, as I said in the livestream a day or two ago, let me know. I’ll add you to the group, you come to the gathering, if you’re ready you can outreach, if not, well, at least you meet other fellow activists
To be honest with a small mental disability, am not sure if I could do it. I'll plan on some learning more and to observe for a while longer. As a two years old vegan i feel like have much to learn. And because of that small mental disability sometimes it goes slower and needs more repeating then with non disabled humans. I do think you and Sky are the best examples. Instead of all these utilitarian gym bros.
@@VegayUnicornivore sure. Do it at your own pace. Didn’t mean to pressure you. I was actually trying to remove some of the pressure by showing you that sometimes it’s our mind that makes us think we are not ready, when instead we most definitely are. But, either way, when you’re ready, let me know. I’ll gladly add you to our Amsterdam wtf chapter ☺️
Animals being tortured so people can have their taste buds satisfied is so wrong on so many levels. If people had to go through what these animals did you can guarantee they would have all these meat and Dairy industries shut down immediately. You can't disconnect yourself from what you eat because if you're willing to eat it then you should have to see the whole process of it. I have no problem watching plant-based food being processed but can people eating meat watch their process? Society has desensitized so many people and groomed them to believe that animal cruelty and exploitation is okay but it's not. Animals are not here for us to do unspeakable things to them they should be able to have their own life and be happy and have their own families. Go vegan for the animals❤
I am not a vegan because I don't like the taste of a meat burger. I am a vegan DESPITE I like it. For animals. Animals life is worth more than my taste pleasure. And if I can have the same taste without cruelty it's a win win :D
Well done at keeping cool head mate. Listening to these same excuses over and over is tiring. “It’s my personal choice” yeah sure it’s a victimless act. Humans just aren’t as evolved as we need to be yet.
I know what you mean! When I do activism I get this calmness surrounding me. I guess it’s because I try to focus on what the people are saying. Thanks for watching 🤗💚
I don't hide their faces. It's just a circumstantial situation on how it was recorded (I put a tripod somewhere and then sometimes I move further away from it)
@@richa1147 There are 8 billion humans on the planet, , most of them are supporting the eating of animals and 80 billion animals are eating most of the worlds crops. Vegans don't eat these animals and refrain from putting them on their plates. Vegans have to eat something and have no power over what farmers spray their crops with. Vegans cause the least harm. In the future when we don't have all these force bred animals there are many different ways to grow crops without pesticides.
He should not criticize those who choose to eat meat, just as one who eats meat should not condemn a vegetarian. Eating meat or refraining from it does not make one a better person. Neither should one’s diet become the prime concern in his life.
@@veganpowerlab As for cruelty to animals and misuse of earth’s resources, God has promised to bring an end to this corrupt and greedy system and to replace it with the new world of his making.
@@olitambasakan8839 Maybe god is already trying to replace the system by making people vegan. Think about it: god's perfect world was vegan (the garden of eden); if he wanted to change the world, wouldn't it be better to change the people, not replace them? So, what is your excuse for not being vegan?
@@veganpowerlab Becoming a vegetarian is a matter for individual decision. And God will not replace its people and He will not change the word He say's "Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you.”
Because it happens, so hello there. And I know too, meat comes from animals killed in slaughterhouses, and the point of veganism is that in a world where we have no need to breed animals for food, slaughterhouses should be a thing of the past. Eat plant based (whole food plants is the best) for health and the planet, and be vegan for animal rights💚🐶🐷🐥✊️💚🍓🥑🥦🥔🌮🍔🍦🍜
Meat is best for humans. IMO let vegans be vegans. They will pay the price with their health down the line.(Too many examples to count, lol) But telling how others should live their life, big NO.
@carothehonestpeanut no. I would rather keep eating meat. Those healthy goo alternatives are worse than Macdonalds. Also, I don't know what you're trying to accomplish with all those emotes, but it's not helping you.
@@Chickenfriedpenguin Haha I thought about it not "helping" me like that, idc - but it was actually to hint to people like you, that the "healthy plant goo" is still proven to be better than meat for health, first of all, second, it is not needed overall and you don't have to eat it, it is a treat. Bet you havent tried much tho lol. A whole food plant based diet is what does your body best! Veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds, spices. And, we go places like mcd to get pleassure, how about removing animals from that instead of paying for their abuse and using health as an excuse?
@@Chickenfriedpenguin Vegans don't go vegan because they suddenly wanna change their diet up and stop eating the fatty and salty things they know in their life, so I get ya. But it is about taking the animals life into consideration, in a world where we actually have no need what so ever to breed and slaughter them..
@@sulev111you're not a carnivore because that would require you being able to shred flesh off of an animal without cooking it. Meat causes heart disease high blood pressure diabetes and some cancers. Also the meat and dairy Industries are part of the cause of climate change. Eating plant-based is a win-win situation. Meat eating only causes disease and violence.
@@veganpowerlab this study doesn't even include carnivores and is intertwined with IPCC propaganda about how to assess emmissions. Do you even realize that it makes perfect sense that someone who eats plants and meat together has the biggest impact? That is what your study shows. Nothing else. Pathetic. And I don't need studies to know what makes sense and what doesn't. Plants are grown on fields - covered with pesticides - and each year they use FERTILIZER or that ground will not grow anything. Add in the biodiversity damage a field does. Now compare that to animals grazing and shitting-fertilizing. It's what animals did millions of years before humans. And they aren't bound by climate and soiltype. There isn't even a competition. Keeping animals is 100% better for the environment than growing plants.
It is clear that the slaying of animals to serve human needs is not against the will of God. His Word, however, does encourage showing consideration for animals. But it does not require us to “love” animals to the extent of putting them on the same level as humans. Why, while Adam and Eve were still in the garden of Eden, God apparently caused animals to be slain to provide coverings for them. In particular does it seem to show a lack of balance for persons to crusade energetically against the killing of animals for food while having no objection to blood-spilling wars that cause untold misery, hardship, suffering and death to millions of men, women and children, by means of guns, torpedos and bombs.
Who said anything about putting them on the same level? Is it really that hard to not needlessly exploit, abuse and slaughter them? Does your god really want you to needlessly kill animals?
@veganpowerlab This is not to say that the provision to eat meat is a license to indulge in the needless spilling of animal blood for the sheer thrill of the hunt or to display personal prowess. Nimrod evidently did this. The Bible identifies him as “a mighty hunter in opposition to God.” Even today, excitement over hunting and killing animals can easily develop in some. But such a spirit goes hand in hand with wanton disregard for animal life, and God does not approve of it.
@veganpowerlab As for cruelty to animals and misuse of earth’s resources, God has promised to bring an end to this corrupt and greedy system and to replace it with the new world of his making.
Number one the wars that you talk about have nothing to do with the people advocating for animals. That is your government and they are the ones you should be saying this comment to. And number two you are wrong and using blasphemy against God's word by saying that God thinks we should kill these animals and exploit them and torture them the way we feel. God never asked man to produce gas Chambers nor did he ask them to mass-produce animals into existence and put their hands up the anal canals of a cow and impregnate her unnaturally and to take her babies away from her and kill them. Also the Garden of Eden is the way that God wanted it to be in the beginning in the first book of Genesis. If you truly believe in God you would know that when the Garden of Eden was made it was made where plant-based food was all that Adam and Eve and all the animals ate. Again because man was a sinner and allowed Satan into their realm is when all this violence started. When people go to heaven there will be no more violence no more animal killing and everyone will get along peacefully and eating plant-based food only. Did you ever think you were being tested down here to see what you would do with what he gave you? God gave us dominion over animals but not domination. Satan has made some people turn a blind eye to what really is going on because he enjoys the suffering of animals and people. So instead of getting mad at people trying to save animals why don't you get mad at Satan because he's the evil one.
Personal choice is great but when victims are involved person choice is not an option.
There is no justification for taking someone's life when you can easily choose from thousands of wonderful nutritious delicious healthy foods that don't cause suffering and death to anyone.
Excellent vegan outreach, your patience is outstanding, I hope they will watch "Dominion" and other videos recommended.
100% you are right! If your personal choice infringes on someone else’s right, it should not be a choice to be made!
Thank you so much 🤗💚
Well said.
If you know better, you should do better.
Their personal choice is an act of violence, which in most cases goes against the kind of person they want to be.
Very well said 💚
Saying it doesn't cause suffering and death to anyone is a bit extended .
Maybe vegans should be realistic as not to give non vegans any chance. We don't live in a vegan world and so non vegan techniques are used that cause suffering and death to many animals ,even organic would cause deaths , humans presence itself causes death of other animals as we need to make space to feed ourself ,obviously it's not intentional but not going to improve either for animals if you guys going to act like everything is fine.
Anyway I can't blame you much, since whatever we are purchasing and doing is causing great suffering to other humans and non humans but it's hidden in a way like animal ag industry ,also not clear alternatives but can be done by reducing consumption to as minimum as possible.
@@abhayagarwal5097 you are right, we unfortunately have to live in a non vegan world .
Because of irresponsible farming practices that vegans have no control over, insects , small animals are mowed down, killed by pesticides ,loss their habitat etc. Vegans don't have the answers, we are not perfect, but at least we are trying,which is more than can be said for the majority of so called humanity.
The difference between meat eaters and vegans is that vegans don't deliberately abuse and murder anyone.
If you really care about crop deaths and I doubt you do ,stop eating meat,70% of crops are grown to feed the animals.
How can you morally justify taking someone's life when you can easily choose something else to eat ?
There is no justification for it.
Do you spend your time speaking out against injustices ? Or do you just like to comment to others that care and are speaking up for the voiceless ?
Oh man that got me sweaty. Some people are so afraid of change they hide from facts right in front of them.
Indeed! One of the girls got really defensive when she saw that the other girl got it
ok you are malnourished
I think it started to click for millie. She seemed really honest and genuine. She realized her dissonance. That's how it started for me.
I noticed that too. She seemed very genuine and was asking questions as if she was actually interested.
Hmm, the "I don't want to think about it" excuse.
The sleeping beauty defence.
Just be unconscious to the terrible world and try and be "safe" your whole life.
See how well that works out in the long run.
17:21 that frustrates me☹️☹️☹️😥😥😥
Yes, animals will be killed, unless we take a stand and speak up💚💚💚🐄🐖🐔🌎🌎🌎 Vegan for life🌱🌱🌱💚💚💚😊😊😊
The appeal to futility is indeed an annoying one. But, I think that Millie got the message eventually. It was her friend that became super defensive in the end
Thanks for watching Nataly 🤗💚
Millie is future vegan, it's just a matter of when.
Great outreach, well worth watching and i thought you did really well! ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much, Kerri! I appreciate you 💚🤗
Hehe...how cheeky! Thanks for the shoutout Labby Boi!
Sorry I didn't make the full premiere. I was at the gym and filming some stuff to help out a fellow Vegen Fwen I'm coaching, but here's some more corns to make up for it!
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Awesome mike being awesome 🤗💚🤗💚
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Awesome work cip , very good 🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄
Thank you so much, Martin 🤗💚
Thank you for standing up for animals ✊✊✊✊
Thank you for watching and commenting 🤗💚
Nice work Cip! 👍🌱💯💚
Thank you so much, Donna 🤗💚
Roughly 16:30 - if animal products had a picture of the slaughter process or the factory farm people would definitely think twice before buying it.
They did something similar with cigarette packaging here in Australia, they have graphic images of what might happen to you if you keep smoking.
(If you want to see the government ad about it, its in my videos called "Quit Now" - yes, its from 2006 😮)
That kind of thing should definitely be on all animal products.
Full transparency.
I fully agree. If more people knew what they are paying for then less people would buy what these products.
After all, nobody likes to see the slaughterhouse footage 💚🤗
Vegan for the animals 💗💗💗💗
Vegan for them ✊💚💚
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Ulf the legend! 🤗💚
@@veganpowerlab The myth the legend 🤣💚😁
You're doing really great, thanks for sharing!
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If i was cooking a dog infront of most of these people or a nice cute kitten they would probably try and change what i was doing. Its a simple fact. How dare they push their preferences on me hey.
Exactly! It’s such a double standard against the farm animals 😢
Roughly 19:00...GARYY!!!!
And damn, she's still so defensive.
Well, if she is so confident of hwr choice, it should be no problem to watch the GARYY speech and Dominion to confirm hwr position...right?
Yeah! She was super defensive for some reason! I can’t understand why. But, this confirms that no matter how nice you are, people will get defensive
Thank you for standing up for non-human animals.
Always 🤗💚✊
Thank you for this video. I loved your conversation! 👍👍
Thank you so much 🙏💚🤗 appreciate you watching and commenting
Bro - Amazing activism as usual.
I appreciate your encouragement 🤗💚🤗 thanks for watching and commenting
Nice video. When the girl was making excuses about things they use on veg etc in supermarkets, you could have said well what do they put into animals to make them grow faster etc?
She just put up the selfish barrier, & was only thinking about herself & her habits, to the point she was on the attack.
I think she would reply with “well, that’s why i don’t buy meat from the supermarket”.
But, either way, it’s a good response indeed. Thanks for that 🤗💚
Great outreach you did, and what a contrast in openness.
Exactly! Surprising just how open one girl was and how triggered the other one was.
Thank you so much for watching and dropping a comment 🤗💚
@@veganpowerlab Yea it was interesting to watch, they really effected eachother.
You did it so well, straight to the point... no faffing. Good work brother
Thank you so much 🙏💚
The girl on the right is sooo defensive. This conversation seems to be triggering her.
Indeed. She got even more triggered when her friend got it
I just love your activism style, you deserve way more views and subscribers! ❤
That is the nicest compliment you could’ve given me 🤗💚 i appreciate you
Stick around. In time, i hope I’ll grow.🤗
So many people use justifications and excuses and try to rationalise that staying the same is a non action/no worse than they already were
Only thing is their "non action" is an act of violence.
Freddie, jeffrey dahmer said the same thing
@@FreddieAland yet meat eaters still make excuses. This is not about you or me this is about saving animals from unnecessary exploitation and killing.
@@FreddieAl no one's dictating anything and saying insults in your comment shows your true character. People are trying to inform you what's going on in the meat and dairy Industries but you seem to be turning a blind eye to the truth because you are only thinking of yourself and your taste buds. I would never put my taste buds over a life.
@@FreddieAl condescending is all in your head. I did no such thing. I told you the truth and you just don't care. I don't know why you go on vegan sites if you don't feel anything for the animals Terror your own health and the environment. All you're doing is wasting people's time when good people come on here and really need to know the truth. If it wasn't for activists I would never have known the truth myself. It got me to do research to find out if everything they say was true and it was. When did you lose your compassion?
@@FreddieAl if you are getting superiority out of it that is on you and in your head only. Stop putting words on your comment that has nothing to do with what I said. This is exactly why I would rather talk to someone face to face then there will be no misunderstandings. Again the truth is the truth. And when I say good people I mean people that come on here with an open mind whether they are vegan or non-vegan.
Wonderful outreach as always! Love you Cip, from: A secret admirer ;)
Thank you so much Corvid for moderating 💚
@@veganpowerlab It's my pleasure ^_^
Thank you for streaming! 💚
13:54 ask if they would advocate to change someone's opinion if they saw someone stomp on a dog a few feet away from you during this conversation, and when you confront them about the dog they say 'hey, its MY opinion to stomp on this dog and its MY choice' .. Ask if they believe that person should change their opinion or choice ... Or not?
That’s a very good point!
@@FreddieAl I see you're doing the rounds and promoting animal abuse
@@FreddieAl Freddie, if you can't answer "YES , CHANGE THEIR OPINION!!! DONT STOMP DOGS!” then you should go seek help immediately
@@veganpowerlab and once they say "well that's different though!!" .... Do not back down. "Ok but we don't make moral decisions on who gets to live/die simply based on differences, because we're not Nazi's right? Now can you please answer the question, because it seems like it would be a simple answer..."
@@FreddieAl exactly, the dog is innocent. Just as all non-human animals are. Nonsense is using poor justifications for perpetuating animal abuse for your sensory pleasure. Choose kindness.
Wow. How many typical carnist arguments did they use? A whole bingo card by the sounds of it.
Indeed, but seems like Millie (the girl on the left), even though she used the arguments, and she went through them; she seemed genuine when bringing them up. And she listened and was open. Her friend, not so much
I wonder how she feels about rapists? I guess its their choice.
Exactly! Seems like it’s only a personal choice until it infringes on her own rights
Comparing rapists with nutrition is intellectual dishonesty. Sorry, do better.
Stupid comparison
@@timefficient do you not understand the analogy?
@@veganpowerlab I get the analogy, but just because your value system views we and the animals as equal, doesn’t mean she thinks the same way.
I’m not hating on what you’re doing , but there’s no chance that these women or majority of people for that matter think the way you do. If it were to be the case everyone would avoid and meat and meat eaters like they would rapists. Not even inmates treat the rapists as their equals.
Now should that majority be thinking the way they do, that’s a whole different conversation. But regardless of that the point still stands that they don’t value these things as equal.
Good job in general, but if I can give advice, focus more in their interest about animals.
How much do they care, what animals they care about, why they care about only some of them, how they define animal abuse etc.
Also, they don't seem to have understood the supply-demand mechanism.
Just say to them "I'm not here to dictate anything, I'm just trying to understand if you care about animals. If you pay for their abuse, that is the opposite of caring."
I loved this outreach, you did a great job. I also liked your answers to the bible pushers below.❤
Thank you so much! 🙏🤗 glad you enjoyed it
Roughly 17:20 - Supply and Demand.
You should have some AI generated art for supply and demand, or maybe actually for all the common arguments and talking points.
Ive made aome actually for a few things like Crop Deaths, i should send em your way (even though you could probably make better ones)
That’s a really good idea. I’d like to see those. Do you have instagram?
@@veganpowerlab I do not.
I have CZcams, email, discord and Patreon I guess.
Verry inspirational. I really like your style. As somebody who is considering doing activism this could help me learn allot.
Hey! Glad to hear it! You should give it a try. 🤗🙏 are you in NL?
@@veganpowerlab yes i am
If you wanna join we the free, as I said in the livestream a day or two ago, let me know. I’ll add you to the group, you come to the gathering, if you’re ready you can outreach, if not, well, at least you meet other fellow activists
To be honest with a small mental disability, am not sure if I could do it. I'll plan on some learning more and to observe for a while longer. As a two years old vegan i feel like have much to learn. And because of that small mental disability sometimes it goes slower and needs more repeating then with non disabled humans. I do think you and Sky are the best examples. Instead of all these utilitarian gym bros.
@@VegayUnicornivore sure. Do it at your own pace. Didn’t mean to pressure you. I was actually trying to remove some of the pressure by showing you that sometimes it’s our mind that makes us think we are not ready, when instead we most definitely are.
But, either way, when you’re ready, let me know. I’ll gladly add you to our Amsterdam wtf chapter ☺️
Be Vegan, live vegan, love vegan 💚💚💚💚💚💚
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There is definitely some great seed planting in this conversation! 🌱
She's too dim to realize that she doesn't have an argument.
Animals being tortured so people can have their taste buds satisfied is so wrong on so many levels. If people had to go through what these animals did you can guarantee they would have all these meat and Dairy industries shut down immediately. You can't disconnect yourself from what you eat because if you're willing to eat it then you should have to see the whole process of it. I have no problem watching plant-based food being processed but can people eating meat watch their process? Society has desensitized so many people and groomed them to believe that animal cruelty and exploitation is okay but it's not. Animals are not here for us to do unspeakable things to them they should be able to have their own life and be happy and have their own families. Go vegan for the animals❤
Very well said 🤗💚
I am not a vegan because I don't like the taste of a meat burger. I am a vegan DESPITE I like it. For animals. Animals life is worth more than my taste pleasure. And if I can have the same taste without cruelty it's a win win :D
Exactly! 🤗💚
Well done at keeping cool head mate. Listening to these same excuses over and over is tiring. “It’s my personal choice” yeah sure it’s a victimless act. Humans just aren’t as evolved as we need to be yet.
I know what you mean! When I do activism I get this calmness surrounding me. I guess it’s because I try to focus on what the people are saying.
Thanks for watching 🤗💚
Something is missing in the school system for people to not be able to reflect on perspectives.
Poppy getting personally attacked I think
7:33 .,. odd how they let go hands as then noticed the camera
Why don't you show their faces?
I don't hide their faces. It's just a circumstantial situation on how it was recorded (I put a tripod somewhere and then sometimes I move further away from it)
so no animals die with vegan food? what about pest control on those crops?
Most of the worlds. crops are fed to 80 BILLION animals. So veganism will always be a choice. that causes less harm.
@@jonjonwp im sure more than 80 billion insects and rodents die worldwide growing crops
@@richa1147 Yes and they are mostly killed to feed animals. So vegans will always be causing the least harm.
@@jonjonwp how on earth is that less harm?? the life of each insect/rodent killed surely matters to a vegan doesnt it??
@@richa1147 There are 8 billion humans on the planet, , most of them are supporting the eating of animals and 80 billion animals are eating most of the worlds crops. Vegans don't eat these animals and refrain from putting them on their plates. Vegans have to eat something and have no power over what farmers spray their crops with. Vegans cause the least harm. In the future when we don't have all these force bred animals there are many different ways to grow crops without pesticides.
Fight capitalism first. Can they?
Would you fight capitalism before you fight for human rights?
@@veganpowerlab This fight can happen simultaneously.
He should not criticize those who choose to eat meat, just as one who eats meat should not condemn a vegetarian. Eating meat or refraining from it does not make one a better person. Neither should one’s diet become the prime concern in his life.
It’s a good thing veganism isn’t a diet
When someone's life is at stake it is no longer your opinion it is everyone's concern.
@@veganpowerlab As for cruelty to animals and misuse of earth’s resources, God has promised to bring an end to this corrupt and greedy system and to replace it with the new world of his making.
@@olitambasakan8839 Maybe god is already trying to replace the system by making people vegan. Think about it: god's perfect world was vegan (the garden of eden); if he wanted to change the world, wouldn't it be better to change the people, not replace them?
So, what is your excuse for not being vegan?
@@veganpowerlab Becoming a vegetarian is a matter for individual decision. And God will not replace its people and He will not change the word He say's "Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you.”
That was one of a tougher conversations but awesome work. Think you plant some seeds even if they did come across as stubborn meatflakes.
don't know why this is recommended to me.
i eat meat i know where it comes from and i still eat it.
Because it happens, so hello there. And I know too, meat comes from animals killed in slaughterhouses, and the point of veganism is that in a world where we have no need to breed animals for food, slaughterhouses should be a thing of the past. Eat plant based (whole food plants is the best) for health and the planet, and be vegan for animal rights💚🐶🐷🐥✊️💚🍓🥑🥦🥔🌮🍔🍦🍜
Meat is best for humans. IMO let vegans be vegans. They will pay the price with their health down the line.(Too many examples to count, lol) But telling how others should live their life, big NO.
@carothehonestpeanut no. I would rather keep eating meat.
Those healthy goo alternatives are worse than Macdonalds.
Also, I don't know what you're trying to accomplish with all those emotes, but it's not helping you.
@@Chickenfriedpenguin Haha I thought about it not "helping" me like that, idc - but it was actually to hint to people like you, that the "healthy plant goo" is still proven to be better than meat for health, first of all, second, it is not needed overall and you don't have to eat it, it is a treat. Bet you havent tried much tho lol. A whole food plant based diet is what does your body best! Veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds, spices. And, we go places like mcd to get pleassure, how about removing animals from that instead of paying for their abuse and using health as an excuse?
@@Chickenfriedpenguin Vegans don't go vegan because they suddenly wanna change their diet up and stop eating the fatty and salty things they know in their life, so I get ya. But it is about taking the animals life into consideration, in a world where we actually have no need what so ever to breed and slaughter them..
Because I know carnivore is healthier and I care about the environment :)
If you care about the environment you should be plant based PMID: 37474804
@@veganpowerlab Nah. You should be highly animal based.
@@sulev111you're not a carnivore because that would require you being able to shred flesh off of an animal without cooking it. Meat causes heart disease high blood pressure diabetes and some cancers. Also the meat and dairy Industries are part of the cause of climate change. Eating plant-based is a win-win situation. Meat eating only causes disease and violence.
Any empirical evidence to back your claims about the environment? Cause, I provided you one study
@@veganpowerlab this study doesn't even include carnivores and is intertwined with IPCC propaganda about how to assess emmissions. Do you even realize that it makes perfect sense that someone who eats plants and meat together has the biggest impact? That is what your study shows. Nothing else. Pathetic. And I don't need studies to know what makes sense and what doesn't. Plants are grown on fields - covered with pesticides - and each year they use FERTILIZER or that ground will not grow anything. Add in the biodiversity damage a field does. Now compare that to animals grazing and shitting-fertilizing. It's what animals did millions of years before humans. And they aren't bound by climate and soiltype. There isn't even a competition. Keeping animals is 100% better for the environment than growing plants.
It is clear that the slaying of animals to serve human needs is not against the will of God. His Word, however, does encourage showing consideration for animals. But it does not require us to “love” animals to the extent of putting them on the same level as humans. Why, while Adam and Eve were still in the garden of Eden, God apparently caused animals to be slain to provide coverings for them. In particular does it seem to show a lack of balance for persons to crusade energetically against the killing of animals for food while having no objection to blood-spilling wars that cause untold misery, hardship, suffering and death to millions of men, women and children, by means of guns, torpedos and bombs.
Who said anything about putting them on the same level? Is it really that hard to not needlessly exploit, abuse and slaughter them? Does your god really want you to needlessly kill animals?
@veganpowerlab This is not to say that the provision to eat meat is a license to indulge in the needless spilling of animal blood for the sheer thrill of the hunt or to display personal prowess. Nimrod evidently did this. The Bible identifies him as “a mighty hunter in opposition to God.” Even today, excitement over hunting and killing animals can easily develop in some. But such a spirit goes hand in hand with wanton disregard for animal life, and God does not approve of it.
@veganpowerlab As for cruelty to animals and misuse of earth’s resources, God has promised to bring an end to this corrupt and greedy system and to replace it with the new world of his making.
Number one the wars that you talk about have nothing to do with the people advocating for animals. That is your government and they are the ones you should be saying this comment to. And number two you are wrong and using blasphemy against God's word by saying that God thinks we should kill these animals and exploit them and torture them the way we feel. God never asked man to produce gas Chambers nor did he ask them to mass-produce animals into existence and put their hands up the anal canals of a cow and impregnate her unnaturally and to take her babies away from her and kill them. Also the Garden of Eden is the way that God wanted it to be in the beginning in the first book of Genesis. If you truly believe in God you would know that when the Garden of Eden was made it was made where plant-based food was all that Adam and Eve and all the animals ate. Again because man was a sinner and allowed Satan into their realm is when all this violence started. When people go to heaven there will be no more violence no more animal killing and everyone will get along peacefully and eating plant-based food only. Did you ever think you were being tested down here to see what you would do with what he gave you? God gave us dominion over animals but not domination. Satan has made some people turn a blind eye to what really is going on because he enjoys the suffering of animals and people. So instead of getting mad at people trying to save animals why don't you get mad at Satan because he's the evil one.
Not an overwrought skoolgurl, so not vegan. Peer review has WF omni. better.😎👍
What about the victims that die needlessly for your choices?
@@veganpowerlabI choose to thrive rather than merely to survive, which I deem to be reasonable.
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme you can thrive on a plant based diet, don’t kid yourself!
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme but, would you eat humans “to thrive”?
@@veganpowerlabMy instincts & the HB both shout "NO!". Although I'm not restricted to it, God's list of food animals (Lev. 11) is sound.