Weight Cutting: UFC’s Disturbing reality
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Weight Cutting has plauged the work of MMA since it's inception. From Cancelled UFC fights to even death, it is a dark and disturbing topic. So join me as we go through all the minute of weight cutting, from the worst we have ever seen in the UFC like TJ Dillashaw and Tony Ferguson, to what can be done to help the situation.
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@@lionelrivera_MMA oh my god mom get the camera it's Lionel Rivera
This comment thread is amazing. Carry on.
@@TroyRobert dad! Come back from the milk store! It's Troy!
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to make weight for no reason
Why does he have to break our heart!
@@MixedMartialAcademic It was the beginning of the end.
Omg I laughed way too hard at this comment. 😂
It is his prophecy to fail 😂
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Tony Ferguson's spiral is one of the saddest things I've seen in combat sports. I really wish he would retire.
He can't
@@_jevenwhy? His contract?
@@millslite2289I think mentally he needs one last win before he leaves the sport, but it might be a while before he gets it. He's trying to win his legacy back but he's losing more in the process, like a gambler.
@@mitchellheffernan3024 yes, he also likes the feeling of pain
Tony's the type of guy who, gains weight in a sauna
TJ looking like Christian Bale in The Machinist
Bro, it’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen.
That's a damn good movie.
or looking like any Army Ranger school student during Florida phase.
Nice to see someone else liked the movie. Bale was 125lbs in the movie and he is fairly tall.
It's so archaic and so easy to solve, I don't understand why nobody's doing anything about it.
Bulimia and binge eating is such an underrated (not talked about enough) issue, in combat sports and in general, it's so debilitating and tolling on your mind and body.
Great video, very much needed topic to discuss.
People think it’s kind of a joke which is just strange. It’s a well documented psychological phenomenon that is affecting loads of fighters for sure.
I'm sure lots of men are secretly binge/purging but it's never reported.
This is why a dagestani will never take a short notice fight or make a quick turnaround
Pretty much, they know what game they are playing
Not Khabib but LHW/MW/WW -probably yes
@@A1v5p9 khabib never took a short notice fight or made a quick turnaround
@@scottc2076 He Did,but it was a long time ago,before the ufc,around 2010-2011 when he was young and also welterweight not lightweight,so you're absolutely right
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they doing it smartly? Khabib himself nowadays walks over 200 pounds and has gotten pretty chunky.
The UFC needs to introduce same-day weigh-ins 1 hour before the event. There problem solved. Weight cutting ruins mma because it turns it into a competition thats not about whos the best fighter, but whos the best at cutting 30+ pounds of water without dying and can perform the next day without being massively handicapped after dehydrating themselves like a prune.
If we got rid of weight cutting, it would solve a lot of problems. Especially this crap where fighters can hop between divisions and try to do this constant champ-champ garbage. Plus it would lead to more exciting fights because fighters are no longer competing while coming back from the brink of death just one day prior. They would perform better! And they would have longer careers because theyre no longer taxing their bodies so heavily prior to each and every contest. It would eliminate weight bullying. The list goes on...
EDIT: Furthermore (since this post has so many upvotes), coinciding this reform, the weight classes should also be reformed. Having such a big jump between 170 to 185, 185 to 205, and 205 to 265 makes no sense. I propose we introduce a couple more divisions to fill these huge gaps, and we segregate each division by 5 kilograms / 11 pounds. This is what that would look like: atom weight would be at 45 kg, straw weight at 50kg, fly weight at 55 kg, bantam weight at 60kg, feather weight 65kg, light weight 70 kg, super light weight 75kg, welter weight 80 kg, middle weight 85 kg, super middle weight 90 kg, light heavy weight 95kg, Cruiser Weight 100kg, and then heavy weight could be 100kg+ with no upper weight limit.
I say this for heavy weight because diminishing returns kicks in hard past the 100-110kg threshold, and more size isn't necessarily an advantage. All of the heavy weight GOATs such as Fedor and Stipe only weighed around 230-240 lbs anyways, and regularly beat guys way bigger than them (see Big Nog vs Bob Sapp, Cain vs Lesnar), so I don't think a super heavy weight division or a weight cap is necessary because all of the best heavy weights tend to cap off under 250 lbs anyways. 300+ pound men are usually slower, less skilled, and have poorer cardio.
I fight in Thailand, and we do same day weigh ins. Pretty much everyone just cuts less weight, and guys can fight more often. Since there not cutting tons of weight
UFC would never agree to it since they'd have to cancel their card if someone misses it or ruin their credibility if they allowed the person to fight
@@halflucan they already do?
100% agreed & well said. I’ve always thought this. There should be same day weight ins or a hydration clause to where you can’t add back on anymore than 5#.
Yes and then fighters constantly fall out without replacements are cards are ruined and UFC's stock drops and fighters will not eat or drink before a fight and ruin their performance that way.
TJ looking like frank woods when he was in prisoned by Mendez
Dont be doing COD references down here ahaha
@@MixedMartialAcademiche ain’t wrong though
Chad imprisoned TJ?
Joe Rogan made a really good point about it, it's basically sanctioned cheating. A 165-pound guy fighting at 135 pounds has more of an effect than using PEDs. If they can ban PEDs, why can't they ban weight cutting?
You cant kill me
I think TJ going down in weight class might go down as one of the worst decisions in MMA history. I believe (no way to know of course) that the shoulder injury that would haunt him later was, if not caused by this strain on his body, was at the very least exacerbated by it. Going through a camp while in nutrient deficit to cut weight must be terrible for the connective tissue.
I honestly agree, and it's such a shame becuase dispite all his contraversies, he was such an entertaining fighter, one of my favourites always.
@MixedMartialAcademic Ya Tjs fights were always fun to watch. The worst thing about it, is that there was absolutely no reason for him to go down. His coaches/family should have talked sense into him
Why is no one talking about him cheating taking EPO during this camp
why would he be nutrient deficient? This sounds very far fetched...
@timhughes3684 ...because that's cool and TJ a good guy
Can't wait for this one. It is so ridiculous that we have such a double standard with steroids and weight cutting. With steroids, it is extremely hard to stop, but we test them anyway because we don't want athletes to jeopardize their health. With weight cutting, it is extremely easy to stop them from gaining an advantage from weight cutting, but we don't do anything.
Respectfully, this is a crappy argument. No one is mandating people to take illegal substances to gain an advantage. Fighters are mandated to meet the weight limits they sign up for. They choose to compete at a weight they naturally can’t meet because they want the advantage or be in a weight class they don’t belong in. Yes, we should prevent the harm weight cutting cost to fighters but they willfully do it to their own detriment. I AGREE THAT WEIGHT CUTTING IS AWFUL AND SHOULD BE REGULATED BETTER. But claiming a double standard for steroids to weight cutting is absurd. One is illegal and is dangerous to both fighters competing while the other is a poor choice that affects the one doing it.
@@matthewsalesman5225 I agree with this. If you can make weight then I have no issue. The dangers should be discussed, and there should be more regulation as you mentioned
@@akaInfamous
You just need steps to prevent extreme dehydration, like the tests ONE does at Weigh-Ins... Weighing in isn't the issue, having such disparate weightclasses where many fighters are naturally Catchweight so forced to fight down or fight people much larger is what forces people to do this.
@@matthewsalesman5225
I mean, mate, for anabolic steroids anyway what, exactly, is the difference when the major variable is the size and strength of the opponent? The UFC could easily avoid this through hydration testing prior to the fight. Is it fair to smaller fighters that they are forced into contests with much larger fighters when their reputation, and thus livelihood, is on the line?
I mean the notion of PEDs being illegal is largely ridiculous anyway, MMA is an exceptionally juicy sport and the UFC likely binned USADA so they would stop losing money from getting their top fighters suspended due to positive tests. It's largely just social stigma in the extreme around it, and to be honest, using many steroids is far less harsh on your body than a brutal cut that hospitalizes you with the potential for death, depending on dose obviously.
Honestly PEDs should probably just enter the pool as a controlled substance open to fighters in a discrete quantity. MMA is exceptionally juicy sport already, all that testing does is discriminate against fighters not favoured by the organization.
It’s the most insane thing when you step back and look at it:
2 guys who weigh 190lbs, give or take, drain & dehydrate themselves massively to get down to 155lbs.....to then rehydrate in one day and fight another rehydrated guy, both being back up to like 175-180lbs.
So it’s really like a zero sum game, and actually it’s a negative sum, there really is no advantage when everyone is doing it, weight cutting only serves to diminish the fighters
The funniest part of it being that they often do it to avoid fighting fighters from higher weight class cutting down to theirs, so they cut weight themselves to fight smaller opponents who then also have to cut down etc. So literally nothing changes.
Exactly, it's absurd
Maybe that's why heavyweights always seem to the the most gentle and relaxed: they never have to go through weight cutting.
They're also not very good fighters usually
@@BluemanitouParaon Tom Aspinall can solo the entirety of UFC if you exclude his fellow heavyweight-light heavyweight peers
@@OnlyTheStrongest116 he's like the only top guy rn
Aspinal and DC have a nice lil belly so you know they're eating good and strong as hell
@@BluemanitouParaon That's partly true in MMA, but certainly not in boxing.
When the UFC Lightweight division started, the best were guys like Jens Pulver, Sean Sherk, BJ Penn, and Frankie Edgar. Nowadays, those guys would be tiny for the division and more suited for Bantamweight or Flyweight.
That’s such a great point
BJ was actually pretty big for the division. He fought at light heavyweight against Machida. Dude was a shapeshifter.
It's changed a lot since those days.
@@_GOD_HAND_ yeah that's because BJ Penn didn't want to cut weight. If you look at some guys in Bantamweight (Sandhagen, O'Malley, Vera, formerly Sterling, etc.) they have a much bigger frame then BJ. If they wanted to eat a lot of food then they could come into a fight weighing 190 just like BJ lol. My point is that guys cut wayyy more weight these days compared to back then. He may have been big for Lightweight back then. But today, if he was in Lightweight he would be small compared to Islam, Poirier, and Gaethje.
@@mamadude505 yes it's changed because guys cut way more weight than ever. Weight cutting is continuously getting more extreme.
My first kickboxing tournament I fought at 153 and I walked around at 175 6’2. That last 9 pounds was brutal. Could not sleep because I was overheated. And this was for no money. Weight cutting sucks ass.
Then why do it? I used to wrestle in highschool and hated cutting weight. I'd never imagine doing it again. I went blind twice from how dehydrated I'd get.
That's what you get for trying to be a weight bully. Get better so you don't have to resort to such tactics
Sorry to sound like a dick, I’m an mma fighter and I have cut weight just so I can find fights so I’ve been there but only about 4 kilos
Why cut so much then ?
The focus shouldn't be on the hardships of weight cutting but rather on the reasons WHY you guys even do it in the first place smh all for an advantage? Just fight honestly at your honest weight division
Fighting at 153lbs at 6ft 2 is absurd.
I remember when Rumble couldn't make weight, so got cut, and came back as an amazing light heavyweight. I wish more fighters would think about this.
Beneil Dariush looking like a COD zombie on the scales was probably the most sobering moment in recent memory. Genuinely thought that man was on the brink of death.
Great video as per as well. Wordplay that would make Shakespeare jealous
Yeah, also Emett looking like something straight out of a horror movie at UFC284 Weight in
Thats why heavyweight is bittersweet. Bitter cuz a lot of them aren’t very technical, but sweet cuz they barley cut weight and knock eachother out
Tom's jawline can cut glass Jesus Christ
On a serious note, really great video on a topic that has so much nuance. It's always crazy the amount of effort you put into these
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Insane to me that you've just uploaded this, about 5 days ago I submitted my dissertation on this exact thing. The psychological effects of weight cutting on combat sports athletes.
Fantastic video
Another banger man. Some of the best journalistic MMA content out there keep it up.
I think just adding more weight classes and not doing anything else is just going to allow some fighters to cut more to have an even bigger size advantage. If you want to stop weight cutting, you have to take away the advantage of weight cutting. Do cage side weigh-ins without the opportunity to put the weight back on. If fighters continue to dehydrate after that without getting an advantage then that is their own fault. As long as we give fighters the choice to not dehydrate without taking a competitive disadvantage, I don’t care about fighters choosing to dehydrate for NO advantage. We shouldn’t ask smart fighters to set themselves on fire to keep the dumb fighters warm.
Good point about more weight classes, I guess it just furthers my point that athletes are always going to try and break the system.
@@MixedMartialAcademicI think it is an example where the "system" then needs to adapt to address the loopholes being used by athletes - especially if it's harmful to them.
How u trying to fight for something nobody but yall want lmaoo none of you are competing in these fights but feel a need to tell someone else how to fight fair that's the problem yall think it matters what yall think 😂😂 yall soft so to yall it's omg he weighs 20 more pounds on fight night then this guy n alot them guys lose who are bigger so idk understand yall point make it safer for fighters who don't want that to find a more dangerous loop hole like what 😂😂😂 moronic
I really can't believe they are going thru this 24hrs before getting into a MMA fight!? That's gotta be the WORST thing ever. Why can't we adjust the sport to keep different people near their normal "in shape" weight? There can still be the range of divisions but off set what those divisions are. No grown pro athlete male should ever way 125! I weighed that in the beginning of High school and I'm only 5'7".. *BTW I like the skateboard in the background. I grew up skateboarding since HS. Only stopped a few yrs ago at 31 when I ruptured my ACL and couldn't skate after the surgery
"No grown pro athlete male should ever weight 125 pounds"
125 pounds isn't an unhealthy weight for a shorter man. What's unhealthy is the practice of cutting excessive amounts of water and body fat from your body to make weight, only to gain that weight in the next 24 hours to fight at a much heavier weight.
@@mitchellheffernan3024there are very small fighters that truly shine at that weight class, look at Demetrius Johnson.
@@mitchellheffernan3024 Even the avg skinny high schooler is like 150lbs. 125lbs is extremely skinny for any adult male unless they're below 5ft 5.
@@MR12AMAZING hence "shorter man"
When everyone is a weight bully at 155 who is doing the bullying?
It's an airheaded, meaningless term.
Hi thanks for the documentation iam actually doing a Presentation for my a level exams in germany about commercalisation in the ufc and how it affects the fighters health your videos really helped thanks.
Glad i could provide any assitence on that, good luck with it! You'll smash it
Thank's man
I like this idea of same day weigh ins. Everyone wins, fighters have to fight at a reasonable weight cut which is essentially just their in shape weight, less tragedies, fighters can likely be more active and fans see fighters at peak performance. It’d take 6-18 months to figure out everyone’s new weight class but it’d be sorted out and we’d all forget about the current system in no time.
Same day takes away far too much focus from the fight. Fighters ONLY concern on fight day should be fighting. Period.
Just limit how much weight they can gain after initial weigh-ins. It’s much less stressful to make weight then limit how much you gain, than it is to have to be an exact weight just an hour before a fight.
I fight in a month and it’s all same day weigh ins, it’ll be interesting because it’s my first match where this is all happening so I will hang around and see if there’s any weight misses and whatnot mines heavyweight so I don’t have a concern
@@SnailHatan it wont take nothing away from the fight, their only concern should be to maintain their normal/everyday/training weight. Its better than the current format in everyway
people will still cut and attempt to rehydrate that day, many would go into the cage still dehydrated. Its good to give the fighters atleast 24 hours to recover after weightcuts
Amazing video! I've also heard people talking about how 'gangster' it is to make weight on short notice and thought the same, that it's crazy and irresponsible. Can you imagine the best Olympic athletes in 100m or a marathon or any other number of sports doing this to themselves and then trying to compete and be the best they could? Then you add the brain trauma... it's a crazy situation and needs to be stopped.
Thank you for making this video! Its crazy that the best attribute that a fighter can have for mma isnt their strength, or power, or cardio, or fight iq, but the ability to cut 30 pounds of water without dying and then performing well the next day witbout being handicapped after dehydrating themselves like a prune. Weight cutting definitely ruins the sport because it turns it into a contest of whos the best weight cutter first, and whos the best fighter second.
The fact that soccer kicks and grounded knees, two techniques that have killed no one are illegal, yet weight cutting, which actually has killed fighters and sent them to the ER is allowed and encouraged is ridiculous!
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When I first started competing as an amateur kickboxer and MMA athlete, I knew virtually nothing about cutting weight, so I was extremely reliant on my training partners who had more experience than me. I cut 18 pounds in 72 hours, and felt like I was dying! Turns out, I really might have been. I have no wrestling background, so I had no frame of reference, and it was absolutely brutal. And by professional MMA fighters standards, 18 pounds is nothing. As I continued to train and compete, I got my "walking around" weight down to within 7 pounds of the weight class I'd be fighting in, just because I made changes to my diet and cardio regimen. Long story short: cutting weight sucks, and it's not worth whatever advantage it gives you, which I wish I knew when I was a young man hoping to be world champ someday. Spoiler alert: I retired after 4-3 record in amateur MMA and 6-3 as an amateur kickboxer, due to some scary post-concussion issues (another serious problem in combat sports), so "world championship fighter" was never in the cards for me.
Man if we could abolish weight cutting, ufc would be so much better. Same with fixed gloves. Hoping the new ones are good
Can you explain the new gloves please?
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To end the nonsense, they should weigh in as they walk into the cage to fight.
It's a good suggestion
I agree I would like this but the issue is there would also have to be anti-dehydration protocol. People know the dangers but will still cut weight to have an advantage. Even if they get no chance to rehydrate. They will still risk it for that perceived advantage
@@DaLeprechaun Two dehydrated rounds would be excrutiating. That would probably work itself out.
@@ElevatedAgenda you're right and I would hope it would. I am being a bit of a devils advocate. In the end I do just want the weight cutting problems to be resolved
People would suddenly be very surprised to see every division under 145 disappear. Along with a ton of fighters showing up at heavyweight.
Thanks for the video. Good stuff. I started competing in kickboxing as a teenager, and I don’t think I’ve ever had a healthy relationship with my weight ever since. It’s been fifteen years and I still weigh myself every day to manage weight, because I’m still fighting.
The weird thing is that you can’t really stop as long as you’re active. I do a lot of BJJ now, and they often have ~10kg weight classes. You don’t wanna be on the wrong side of that limit.
Thank you for making a video about this. So many people pushing it too far, both pro and AM
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145lb class for women would 100% make WMMA more interesting.
We don’t need a bunch of extra divisions tho, maybe one for men at 165. And one for women at 145.
That would allow the best and most violent female fighters to come in feeling good and get Kos
Nah. There are few good 135 women. The champ Raquel kinda sucks. 145 there’s nothing.
More weight divisions don’t stop cutting anyways
People like Joe Rogan that say cutting large amounts of weight is a bigger advantage than steroids have little to no perspective on how brutal weight cutting is. If you use steroids you don’t make yourself easier to knock out and the majority of negative effects on your body are long term not short and long term like weight cutting. Incredible video as always you always cover the less flashy but equally as important aspects of the sport.
Thanks for the comment! We could make content that stimulates the algo, but where is the fun in that brother, we want to get into the weeds!
None of the potential "benefits" outweigh the simple fact that weight cutting also reduces Cerebrospinal fluid in your brain... the fluid that both protects the brain from injury, impact and ensures proper neuron firing. It takes DAYS to weeks to fully recover diminished cerebrospinal fluid losses from dehydration.. not 24 hrs. This means every fighter that undergoes water dehydration to make weight is also reducing cerebrospinal fluid in their brain, meaning they are VASTLY more susceptible to knockouts because they no longer have adequate fluid in the brain to protect it and are also fighting at diminished mental capacity as their neurons cannot fire efficiently, which is what is used often to make split second decisions in combat in relation to gauging when to strike , dodge, block etc. Slow neurons = slow fighter.
As viewers, we are literally watching INFERIOR fighters if they weight cut. Their brains are more vulnerable and incapable of making ideal rapid decisions in combat to fight at their most efficient level. Not to even mention the fact that any doctor will tell you the BODY alone CANNOT recover from the damage done in just 24 hrs of rehydrating. It too can take days or weeks to fully recover. We are watching inferior fighters when they weight cut when gauged from a medical / physiological perspective.
@@Hathur if what all just like that than nobody would be doing weight cuts... It is a whole lot more individually variant how much this happens.
I am glad you are giving this attention. Its insane and they need a new way of doing weigh ins.
Dude. First off I have to say .. I hope this video blows up because you did an OUTSTANDING job on this man. Well done, and you got a new sub out of me!
Khabib VS Tony in his prime
Would’ve been such a great banger
I think Tony would have done the most damage to khabib ever by an opponent but still lose by submission
Khabib would have gotten his shit rocked, khabib had practically no striking game and tony was excellent at takedown defense. Khabib no fighting tony saved his legacy.
@@moonie1825 Tony was excellent at takedown defense? Based on what performance?
Yeah right bro.
Tony is the kind of guy who got the shit beat outta him by Gaethje, arm snapped by Charles, kicked into orbit around the sun by Chandler, choked out by Bobby AND Nate, wrestlefucked by Dariush, oh yeah and smacked around by Paddy.
And to think people actually thought he could beat Khabib. 😂 I digress.
@@1974Imperiumliterally all of those fights happened past the age of 36 how is that prime tony
@@moonie1825Khabib made Conor quit. Tony wasn’t the hero to avenge Conor’s humiliation. 😂
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Bro you are a great writer! This video encompasses exactly how I feel about weight cutting. Great video and channel 👊
Great video. I found myself agreeing a lot, you were speaking my thoughts as I was having them!
Best idea I can think of to fix it is that they get on the scale on the night of the fight and need to weigh in at the limit for the class
I would love to see this cocept play out in a promotion, I honestly think it could work, but I hate to think of fighters trying to push that boundry. Hydration test and same day weigh in, and weight checks through out the year. But is that over the top?
@@MixedMartialAcademicit might be necessary for fairness and the safety of the fighters
Fighting with a dehydrated brain is way more dangerous
Jesus Christ. What these fighters go through for weight cut is horrendous. UFC is just giving me more reasons to support and become even bigger fan of ONE Championship more and more.
They don’t do that out of touch, barbaric nonsense over there. And have a wider range of weight classes
Well documented and informative video lad. Thank you for bringing these things out to the light for fight fans who aren’t ware this stuff.
....not to burst your bubble, but check out some videos actually taking a look at ONEs weigh in policies. Luke Thomas has some good videos about it.
It’s not as good as it seems. They still have guys cutting weight, despite their “hydration testing”, plus ONE is not transparent with the actual details and info of the whole processes
Don’t get me wrong though, I enjoy ONE very much, they have a great mix of kickboxing and Muay Thai with 4oz gloves .
But they are just as suspect as any other promotion, when it comes to their practices
No they are not like other promotions. I'm sure they have fighters that screw the system. However, even if it's flawed, they are making a real effort to restrict and eliminate weight cutting. Even if they are not eliminating it outright, they are making a public effort to put a stop to it.
Ones weight in system is a bit of a joke. If it even happens, a hydration test is pretty easily fooled
Good on you for presenting a possible way to improve the situation. The more the fans are made aware of this the more they will push for changes. The sport is never going to make these changes as long as they money is flowing, they don't care until they start worrying the fans will turn on them.
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Ryan Garcia beat Haney, The ref, The Judges, The fans AND Weight cutting 👑💯
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What kind of advantage is it to appear heavier, when you are so weakened by weight cuts??
I think the effects are more so long term that short, there still are short term effects, but yeah the advantages outweigh the negative for the better part of a career it seems
Being bigger is a strong advantage when it comes to power but the weight cut fucks your cardio
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i dont get it man...its mental regardation...why dont they fight at their natural weight classes, viz a viz, tj at lightweight, islam at welterweight and so on but rather whine about weight cutting, like bro either fight at your natural weight class or just retire smh
Because people would still cut, claim it’s their “natural weight” and then rehydrate and come in even larger.
@@zim-zf7mq if they can...then more power to them but clearly fighters like tj shouldn't drain to featherweight but to lightweight , islam to welterweight and so on
solid video. Great research and explanation on this topic.
A very meaningful MMA video. Thank you for another high-quality, highly informative video.
I think a same day weigh in might be a solution. Fighters will still cut weight of course, but it will be very risky to go as hard as when they have 24 hours to recover. The risk to reward ratio for every additional pound of weight cut would be much higher.
I think they should do it right before the fight with no chance to gain the weight back. If you take away the advantage of dehydrating over dieting, fighters will stop dehydrating and they can be in fighting shape well before the fight with no draw backs.
@@Mutex50 Exactly. They should weigh them several times in the build up to the fight to make sure they are on track. As long as the fighters are within some % of each other on the night of, the fight can happen.
Hydration tests should be mandatory.
I agree, it’s a shame there are known ways around it
It is,but not in UFC,in ONE Championship
And the ‘known ways around it’ can be potentially more dangerous
@@christypan2556 One championship solved this issue. More weight classes and hydration tests.
I've been getting my friend into MMA. He asked me about weight cutting and why fighters do it. This doc is perfect! Good timing for us. Thanks
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The fix for drastic weightcutting is a weigh in shortly (e.g. 2 hours) before competition. That still allows an athlete to cut 3-4kg if they need to, but beyond that and you cannot rehydrate fast enough to be in shape. There is absolutely no reason not to do this.
Because fighters will still dehydrate themselves for the competitive advantage. Would be even more dangerous than having cuts as a result.
It’s why boxing made the shift cuz too many people in lower classes were dying.
A more substantial version of one champs solution is a good avenue to pursue
If you can't see the multiple reasons not to do this, you're not thinking clearly
@@MMAVoodoo well, there's the drawback that with shorter weigh ins, missing weight is more likely and happens on a short notice. But this already happens - so the fighters and their teams will just have cut less weight.
Then there's the drawback of a fighter actually attempting the same weight cut they did before. But that's actually no longer an advantage, because they'd be fucked in the fight.
So, go on, what am I missing?
@@IsleyNumber1 cutting weight still provides a competitive advantage. Fighters would just choose to enter the ring dehydrated, which can have fatal effects on the brain.
Boxing did have same day weigh ins, people in lower weight classes kept dying, hence they moved them to the day before.
Having a guy rehydrate 15+ pounds is quaint by comparison
@@RD-wg9em Ahh yes, the well known advantage of coming so dehydrated you might die from being hit
Truly, something must be done to stop boxers from ekeing out that advantage
first time in a CZcams video where the credits start rolling and i’m just sat there thinking wow do i rlly wanna do this not the rest of my life, i make 155 walking around at 190 and am seriously considering welterweight but everyone there is so much more dense then me. Amazing video
Awesome doc. Really informative! Well done
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you 🙏
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Hope you enjoy it mate!
Make weigh-in on fight day. Problem solved, I would think.
I'd love to see that play out for sure!
Horrible idea.
ive always thought its crazy that any kind of weight cutting exists in mma. If you fight at 70kg you should be 70kg in the ring, why have weight classes otherwise? there are lightweight fighters that actually belong in middleweight, so whats the point? Fighters should fight at their natural/actual weight
Your cte video help the people around me to understand a little bit what I'm going through I'm showing the signs of stage 2 I don't want to leave the house anymore give me bad anxiety mood swings migraines light sensitivity insomnia maybe sleep in an hour or two at night foggy vision. Not looking forward to leaving the house tomorrow to go to the psychiatrist and the therapist cause me severe anxiety that makes me sick my to my stomach so severe I end up just heavy sweating and cramping really bad.
Weight cutting isn't killing MMA, either as a sport or a business. It's bad for the participants, which is another matter.
It is tho.
It's not concern trolling its a fleshed out point of view that many people agree with, Drama added to a video isn't view chasing it's storytelling. Don't conflate the two. If I wanted to view chase I'd make documentries on fighters every video bub.
Appeal to authority, concern trolling, hyperbolic (what ever that actually means); brother you are just saying things other people have said. None of those things happened in this video you melt.
Dana/UFC isn't to blame for fighters killing themselves
If a fighters is having trouble making weight that's a sign they should change
If you want to fight at a certain weight it's your job to make it
Yes but a point the video was trying to make is that multiple of the weight brackets are too far apart, so someone who’s natural weight sits in the middle is at a larger disadvantage because they have to change their weight the most. Yeah it could be a case of ‘life is unfair’ but this is a sport basically defined by the champions in each weight class, so there’s no reason to not just make things less arbitrary by making more weights accessible to more fighters actually fighting at their IDEAL/PRIME weight (more impressive results 👍)
I know and I still disagree@@hata6290
Too many weight classes is bad for the sport also even if the ufc uses 22 weight classes like boxing you will still have this problem
Cutting weight isn't complex.
If you happen to be too small for a certain weight well you got two options
1) suck it up and try to find a way to win
2) ask for a release and find some other promotion where the competition isnt elite
Keep doing this man , I love you videos .
Excellent video. Great editing. 👌
Thanks very much mate appreciate it!
Bro if you're fat then you're fat we don't need to change what words we use because somebody's feelings get hurt, if they weren't fat then they wouldn't feel bad about it. I'm sick of Americans pushing this policing of words on to everybody. Fat shaming works, if you care about somebody and they are over weight shame them for it because that means you care.
Hope your wife is okay mate!
And I'm not American
Yeah stop telling truth so you dont offend somebody 😅
What does my wife have to do with anything? You called out tjlovesfights for using the word fat but why? You made it seem like he was adding to the fighters struggle by using the word fat which makes no sense.@@MixedMartialAcademic
If you think I was specifically talking about the word fat that I don’t know what to tell you mate. In the video is referenced to scientific peer reviewed research papers that specifically say that with out a doubt it has negative effects for combat sport athletes mental health. I’m not just making things up. But then there people like you who think “fat shaming” works. Like I say hope you treat people in your family with that same energy lol.
Love your videos, but regardless of how extensively bad that weight cut was for Tj Cheatershaw, it’s argued he never would have been able to make it without the substances he was using.
I don’t agree platforming that individual in any regard, for any individual. He deserves to be erased from modern MMA.
The other story’s are great to be highlighted, dangerous but this system has gotten much better than it previously was. Hopefully up to new days.
Good video.
Great job on this 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you mate appreciate it!
Amazing video as always
I like how you went into the reasons why fighters cut weight, often other discussions on weight cutting just conclude "fight at your walkaround weight" without acknowledging this would be accepting an insane and dangerous disadvantage.
Unfortunately now almost every athlete in ONE is using some version of the technique outlined in MMA on point's video in order to make weight so large and dangerous weight cuts are still happening, although the intention to do something about it is a positive step. And the danger of same day weigh ins comes with the reduced recovery window where fighters will still cut weight but not fully recover by fight time. Over time they may realise to cut less weight, but I think the transition period would involve a lot of danger.
So what's a better solution? I dont know 😂 it seems like fighters will cut weight for literally any proposed solution, so its the million dollar question. Anyway, great video, very well made. 👏
How are ONE fighters able to do the same extreme weight cuts while there's hydration testing?
@@MMAVoodoo czcams.com/video/XORKwmGmsKA/video.htmlsi=eyswqAfyBOtsWIFX
I'm really glad you made this video. There's a massive portion of MMA's audience that are overly insensitive, and it's cringe. They look so stupid, thinking it makes them look tough.
We like to stay grounded here, nothing wrong with a bit of emotion and sensitivity. Appreciate you brother
So glad you made this video
i love all ur videos man
GREAT VIDEO MATE 👊🥊🏴
Really nice video :) I think that your points about the pride-based subculture that's come with weight-cutting is something that a lot of people don't talk about (or, rather, don't talk about out loud) and I'm glad that you highlighted that.
I remember hearing Rogan and Cormier(?) talking about how some fighters are so much "mentally tougher" because of how much weight they have to cut a while ago and it's always bothered me.
Great video mate. I wish they could stop the weight cutting too, but I doubt they ever will. These fighters will pay for it in years to come, and the fans will be gone. 😢
Brutal.
Hugh Respect to you bro.
For your love of sport.❤.
Love and support from Himalay (India)
Amazing documentary sir. I had no idea how horrible weight cutting is for the fighters health and life.
Beautiful articulate words! Well done!
Thank you kindly!
The way this guy explains the stories is so intriguing
Amazing breakdown 🙏🏾
Appreciate that, thank you!
i'd personally like to see as josh said same day weighins - our family does judo and most of the tournaments we go to do mat side weighins - show up an hour or 2 before your fight, weigh in, warm up then fight - simple and straight to the point - there's very little if any weight cutting and i love it
Excellent content my dude
Much appreciated! thank you