I really like mangini alot but Portnoys phrasing is just phenomenal as far as that dream theatre songs go I mean look what he did to revs parts in nightmare. There is no comparison. Truly I e of the best minds alive today now that Peart is gone
@@californiasux9826 I agree but I admit that Mangini's phrasing from Distance over Time and A View from of the Top of the World shows that he improved a lot as a composer.
The new generation will never realize how pioneering Portnoy and Petrucci were in their fields. Even in 91, playing stuff no one else was and on 7 strings with tones that wouldnt be seen in mainstream until Nu-Metal music in 95-97. Not to mention the musicality of Portnoys double bass grooves and stacks. When I listen to Petrucci’s riffs isolated from context in 94 its like holy sh*t thats actually “metal” lol
Thats another reason why i compare them with Rush so often. Regardless of the obvious Rush influence in DT, they were both real musical innovators in the type of stuff they did.
***** Nah. He chose to endorse Mapex drums and DW drum pedals since there were so many offers being thrown, he thought something like "Why not?" and signed with Mapex. Mapex flopped his agreement and he broke off to be with TAMA drums in time for the Falling into infinity recordings.
Not on concerts, though. Not that I play 1/10th of what he plays but on live concerts he usually rushes. Drummers like Gavin Harrison are true time keepers. Even Mangini maintains a more accurate tempo in concerts.
@@dcairol yes! I’ve been saying this for years. His live playing is very rough at times. It’s a discipline problem. He’s not being artsy. His figures and fills are often very rushed. Similar to how younger drummers starting out have to break habits. He got better in the last decade for to be in your 50s with these credentials thats a little awkward...
Probably my favorite DT-track because of the absolutely beautiful drumming. This song hasn't gone out of my head since I first heard it 20 years ago, and I listened to it 100+ times since. All hail King Mike!
When I saw this 10yrs ago, it inspired me to be a drummer... I don't know why but I think MP is the most charismatic drummer in the prog-rock/metal genre to have ever lived.
Saw them on this tour (awake) 3 times in small venues plus a special "Home for the Holidays tour" in CT. They played A Change of Seasons live for the first time. The crowd went nuts!....was awesome!
that dude is like an angel .. besides his godlike percussion skills .... this is a classy man... good soul ... love the hair back then,.... I hear NY in there .... you remind me of home dude.. 💙🤙
This song is basically an education in how to write seminal catchy drum parts. One memorable part after the other. Something that sadly was lacking in Mangini era DT.
Compared to other songs of DT (until now), idk but i found that Erotomania is one of my all time fav prog rock/metal song and it's indeed a special song, a song that has this very special drum line, i mean every part of this song need to play like this to give the same feeling in the song by the drummer, also don't forget the personal flavor that Portnoy gave in this, other surely can play the exact drum parts but won't be able recreating the same vibe as Portnoy.
Yeah Portnoy was sponsored by Mapex for a short while, but they screwed him around after he got the kit and said he had to sign a 3 year deal for the full coverage of the cost, or something like that as the story goes, so he came back to Tama, plus Tama had just launched the Star classic maples at that time around 96 or so, google it if I am not 100 percent accurate though......
GuitarSlinger2112 Exactly. I don't know why you'd want a drums only track in a learning situation anyway. Taking away the rest of the instruments takes away the context. Use sheet music to learn difficult patterns and licks, and maybe even move towards a track WITHOUT drums to apply your own interpretation while playing or even recording.
For 9 years now I've been sticking up for mangini. But The more I listen to the newest album. The more I agree with you. They have lost their way. Portnoy had the personality and the creativity that is missing from dream theater.
I like Mangini, but Portnoy is more than just a drummer. I respect the fact that he did so much to contribute to DT. He is on better terms with Petrucci and Rudess. I just wish he and James LaBrie would work their shit out.
He's actually using 24" basses here. These as well as the ones on the Purple Monster (and its clones) were 24". He went down to 22" for his main kick drums starting on the Siamese Monster. IIRC, he says on his website that he prefers the "punchiness" of the 22's to the 24's.
@@claudespeed13579 Those were 24s as well, and that was the Purple Monster. As much as Portnoy is one of my idols, I'm really not a fan of his bass drum sound most of the time in general (too dead and slappy sounding), but I definitely didn't like the sound of the ones on the Purple Monster Kit...too many ugly low mid frequencies and high mid slap. Plus he used Pinstripes on the kicks on that kit IIRC, and not only do I not like Pinstripes, but I don't like two ply heads on bass drums in general, so that's a double wammy. Probably my favorite kick drum sound of Portnoy's is on the Live at Budokan album. That was probably the best overall drum mix IMO on any of DT's live albums and the mix overall was one of the better live mixes too.
@POPmaster11 lol...actually the main point of this is to WATCH MP while playing the drums...reason? There are some drum parts which are pretty hard to understand just by listening them...THATS y people come to see him playing drums...or maybe some ppl who are not drummers just like to watch him play...and i have watched mp without sound, its still amazing
for those of you who wanna criticize portnoy,portnoy was 28 when this album was made and you people knocking him wish you had the talent and success that mike has.
The Mapex drums on this album sound pretty good. I'm not playing live and don't have time crunches so it almost makes me want to get a Mapex kit. My TAMA Rockstar kit has lasted almost 20 years, though so that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
The most important thing about Portnoy isn't his technique
it's that the drum parts he wrote for Dream Theater are all SO DAMN TASTY
Yea he's really good at coming up with awesome drum parts.
I really like mangini alot but Portnoys phrasing is just phenomenal as far as that dream theatre songs go
I mean look what he did to revs parts in nightmare. There is no comparison. Truly I e of the best minds alive today now that Peart is gone
@@californiasux9826 I agree but I admit that Mangini's phrasing from Distance over Time and A View from of the Top of the World shows that he improved a lot as a composer.
And Classy
Exact ingredients, taste delicious, rather than too much taste. hehe
The new generation will never realize how pioneering Portnoy and Petrucci were in their fields. Even in 91, playing stuff no one else was and on 7 strings with tones that wouldnt be seen in mainstream until Nu-Metal music in 95-97. Not to mention the musicality of Portnoys double bass grooves and stacks. When I listen to Petrucci’s riffs isolated from context in 94 its like holy sh*t thats actually “metal” lol
Thats another reason why i compare them with Rush so often. Regardless of the obvious Rush influence in DT, they were both real musical innovators in the type of stuff they did.
Right! Gen z people only know k pop
Erotomania's drum lines are absolutely amazing. But that final solo is freaking mind-blowing.
If Mike sat any higher, he'd be standing.
LOL I always said that! Looks very uncomfortable
looks so weird haha
I actually read somewhere that he complained about having back problems after sitting so high.
***** Nah. He chose to endorse Mapex drums and DW drum pedals since there were so many offers being thrown, he thought something like "Why not?" and signed with Mapex. Mapex flopped his agreement and he broke off to be with TAMA drums in time for the Falling into infinity recordings.
Ben Michalowicz I think he also said it helps with double bass too
He's a master time-keeper,,,,with style....in any time signature!..
Mike isn't a master time-keeper . HE IS THE TIME-KEEPER JAJA
Not on concerts, though. Not that I play 1/10th of what he plays but on live concerts he usually rushes. Drummers like Gavin Harrison are true time keepers. Even Mangini maintains a more accurate tempo in concerts.
@@dcairol yes! I’ve been saying this for years. His live playing is very rough at times. It’s a discipline problem. He’s not being artsy. His figures and fills are often very rushed. Similar to how younger drummers starting out have to break habits.
He got better in the last decade for to be in your 50s with these credentials thats a little awkward...
@@dcairol Mangini actually plays with a click in his ears. Portnoy does not
This original instructional VHS video probably cost $350 in the 90s. (always loved this song. so amazing)
He can't go 3 seconds without hitting a cymbal, and I love it.
That is why he has so many cymbals.
Listening is a skill, try it some time!
Not true: 7:32
@@lebassdesign4850 thats 1 second
@@fxexpert4541 fuck off
Probably my favorite DT-track because of the absolutely beautiful drumming. This song hasn't gone out of my head since I first heard it 20 years ago, and I listened to it 100+ times since. All hail King Mike!
When he appeared on the scene I'd never heard someone play like that. And truly landmark of a drummer in music history that influenced countless.
That drum solo at the end is INSANE !
+blastdude89 does it remind you pretty closely of the live version of enigma machine's solo? i kept hearing bumbumbumbuuuuum
blastdude89 That drum solo is fit with the song.
When I saw this 10yrs ago, it inspired me to be a drummer... I don't know why but I think MP is the most charismatic drummer in the prog-rock/metal genre to have ever lived.
Saw them on this tour (awake) 3 times in small venues plus a special "Home for the Holidays tour" in CT. They played A Change of Seasons live for the first time. The crowd went nuts!....was awesome!
Wow! Where did they play in ct? Toads?
This is my comfort music.
One of the most creative drummers in the world !
One of the greatest drummers of all times. Man, I miss that late 80s/early metal-stuff like this. No one can top them
PLEASE!!!! MORE FROM THIS DVD!!!!
Your the best man!!
How jazzy they were with Portnoy. Happily I saw them several times those days.
I copy that. Man was it FUN to watch this guy with Dream Theater.
The drum sound is AUTHENTIC!! 😌
one word for u sir mike ........EPIC .. as always
Mikey is like Bill Bruford, Terry Bozzio, Neil Peart and Dave Lombardo rolled in one... Gotta love it
While his inspiration is from John Bonham
Maria Bethania on drums.
KKKKKKKK
HUEHUEHUEHUE
Felipe Espinola ... Kkkkk
até hoje eu racho o bico desse comentario
kjkjkjkkjkkjkkkkkkkkk
I love this song so much
Magic MIke in the Magical nineties..
... and as a king of drums, mike actually deserves a throne
Me: 7 cymbals is enough
Portnoy: 68 seems right
i absolutely love his mapex kit in this clip
Even out of Dream i'll never forget my master!!! my teacher
He's BACK!!!!
there is never a better drummer than him. there never was and never will
+TheSwoleRice John Bonham.
+TheSwoleRice Even MP says that Donati is the man.
+TheSwoleRice erotomania the most simple song ever i can play it with my eyes closed its so easy
+jorge cabrera is that supposed to be a sarcasm
+TheSwoleRice Marco Minnemann, Neil Peart
MP - Progressive Drum Concept
JP - Rock Discipline
JM - Progressive Bass Concept
that dude is like an angel .. besides his godlike percussion skills .... this is a classy man... good soul ... love the hair back then,.... I hear NY in there .... you remind me of home dude.. 💙🤙
He was a major stuck up asshole when I met him
This song is basically an education in how to write seminal catchy drum parts. One memorable part after the other. Something that sadly was lacking in Mangini era DT.
This song is so patient.
Spinning the cymbals at 5:13! Love it. I do that when I play.
welcome back Mike!
Me encantaba su sonido Mapex. Un genio, como siempre Mike
I love the epic 2 minute drum rapage there at the end
one word : beautiful
2019 Yeahhh!!!
No we are in 2020 now
Mike Portnoy my favorit
These VHS era tutorials.....One of the very few reasons I prefer technology over old school. I need the synchronicity of each hit!
Love the early years Mike better than now.
Mike Portnoy is Incredible drummer..
Love the way he rocks long rocker sleeves shirt with sneakers and short spandex. It’s all rock n roll baby
That is mike!! Awesome!
This video is a damn legend!
Compared to other songs of DT (until now), idk but i found that Erotomania is one of my all time fav prog rock/metal song and it's indeed a special song, a song that has this very special drum line, i mean every part of this song need to play like this to give the same feeling in the song by the drummer, also don't forget the personal flavor that Portnoy gave in this, other surely can play the exact drum parts but won't be able recreating the same vibe as Portnoy.
Yeah Portnoy was sponsored by Mapex for a short while, but they screwed him around after he got the kit and said he had to sign a 3 year deal for the full coverage of the cost, or something like that as the story goes, so he came back to Tama, plus Tama had just launched the Star classic maples at that time around 96 or so, google it if I am not 100 percent accurate though......
You are correct.. in fact the tour manager ended up paying Mapex for the drums that the Gibson custom guitar shop built (U.S. Maples Series)
Big mistake from Mapex looking back...
Tama is anyway better than Mapex
Tama had more punch on DT recordings Portnoy did anyway especially bubinga shells
Beautiful!
6:46 - I love that one last syncopated hit on the hi hat before the finale
Nice spot. Yeah, the smallest things are sometimes the greatest impactors 🔥
DRUMS ONLY= DRUMS "ISOLATED", THIS IS THE FULL INSTRUMENTS TRACK
I'd say the drums are pretty isolated in proportion to the rest of the track. Why so quick to cry foul? It's a great video regardless. Just enjoy it.
siempre busque el track sin tambores para tocar sobre el resto de instrumentos
If you can't hear the drums have been lifted in this mix you might want to put away your sticks and sell your kit.
GuitarSlinger2112 Exactly. I don't know why you'd want a drums only track in a learning situation anyway. Taking away the rest of the instruments takes away the context. Use sheet music to learn difficult patterns and licks, and maybe even move towards a track WITHOUT drums to apply your own interpretation while playing or even recording.
+GuitarSlinger2112 To be fair the title does say drums ONLY. That means no music no matter how quiet.
before there was the dance of eternity there was this thing called a mind beside itself and that's just the first part!
What do you mean?
+Stekmund Jacobson "A Mind Beside Itself" is the name given to a trilogy of songs on Awake(1994), the songs are Erotomania, Voices, and The Silent Man
A mind beside itself is an epic piece from the awake album, and erotomania is the first part of the epic, that's basically what I meant
+Spooky “Scary” Skeleton Thanks for explaining!
+Jose Elías Pallares Yeah now i understand
He is still alive and well now but I think that was the best time of his music career.
Incredible drumming...
Forever Mike Portnoy..!
1:10-1:20 listen to that china hi-hat dance. So niiiice!
Yes that is so tasty
Mike Portnoy dando o seu melhor.
Legendary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lovely playing of Erotomania in spite of the same drums solo for more than 20 years
That Snare sound man!!!
Bentornato Mike 🖤
Mike! Mike! The song- MIKE!! THE SONGS OVER! This dude
beautiful song
Guy is on another level
Wow, MP is really is sitting really elevated. Thats some unique positioning I have to say
We need him back in Dream Theater.
For 9 years now I've been sticking up for mangini. But The more I listen to the newest album. The more I agree with you. They have lost their way. Portnoy had the personality and the creativity that is missing from dream theater.
@drealmerz7 z most likely true. But, it would be amazing to see Portnoy return. I like Mangini. Just don't think he belongs.
First cd I bought was images and words ever since then I was a huge fan of mike
I like Mangini, but Portnoy is more than just a drummer. I respect the fact that he did so much to contribute to DT. He is on better terms with Petrucci and Rudess. I just wish he and James LaBrie would work their shit out.
It's never gonna happen
THE BEST DRUMMER OF THE WORLD
Great drumer Mike yes!!
Es muy creativo, es un genio!
O melhor. Sempre!
Amazing!
is that thorin oakenshield? :D
Andri Yanto thorin high as fck playing drums and shit. hha
Buddy you nailed it LOL 👍
Ahahaha
Andri Yanto hahahahha
Portnoy Oakenshield
PERFECT!
Looks like he was going through his alcoholic period there. Amazing playing as always.
Still 2021🔥🔥🔥
My nostalgic nineties
he is the best drum writter in the world.
ratatap better than Mike Machine!
Emperors new groove
Back when Portnoy played Mapex and Petrucci played Ibanez.
Good old day.
"I've played tama drums since I was 17"
Either puberty hit mike like a ton of bricks, or he bent the truth slightly haha
And he's playing a Mapex kit in this video lol
David Ortega probably because he was doing a thing or something with his sabian partners or whatever
Actually he can't even say Mapex name, because of his Tama's contract. Not even show this footage
He started on Tama, went to Mapex and then back to Tama. Check out I&W Live in Tokyo to see his earlier Tama set.
Nice little tribute to The Professor at the end of this. That’s why he wears a Peart #1 shirt in the LTE drum cam.
i could be happy with the half of the half of all his set ¡¡¡¡
Mike's hair here is beautiful
Drinking game: drink a shot everytime Mike says "and"
the best mike!
thank god there are the subtitles!
Mike love the stuff your doing, but miss your presents in DT!
Mike is the best
Portnoy is like Samson, he gets his power from his hair.
Mike loves his symbols👍✌️
nice kit!!!!
He's actually using 24" basses here. These as well as the ones on the Purple Monster (and its clones) were 24". He went down to 22" for his main kick drums starting on the Siamese Monster. IIRC, he says on his website that he prefers the "punchiness" of the 22's to the 24's.
My favorite is whatever he used on Metropolis Part 2
@@claudespeed13579 Those were 24s as well, and that was the Purple Monster. As much as Portnoy is one of my idols, I'm really not a fan of his bass drum sound most of the time in general (too dead and slappy sounding), but I definitely didn't like the sound of the ones on the Purple Monster Kit...too many ugly low mid frequencies and high mid slap. Plus he used Pinstripes on the kicks on that kit IIRC, and not only do I not like Pinstripes, but I don't like two ply heads on bass drums in general, so that's a double wammy.
Probably my favorite kick drum sound of Portnoy's is on the Live at Budokan album. That was probably the best overall drum mix IMO on any of DT's live albums and the mix overall was one of the better live mixes too.
@POPmaster11 lol...actually the main point of this is to WATCH MP while playing the drums...reason? There are some drum parts which are pretty hard to understand just by listening them...THATS y people come to see him playing drums...or maybe some ppl who are not drummers just like to watch him play...and i have watched mp without sound, its still amazing
Little slower than original.
+Sam Nammur i noticed that as well
Better for us to understand how Portnoy does his magic haha
I learnt this song and that fact annoys me every time I play this version
Is it me or does it seem like it's slowing up
@@chriscasarcia9341 it's actually speeding down. (Duh)
for those of you who wanna criticize portnoy,portnoy was 28 when this album was made and you people knocking him wish you had the talent and success that mike has.
Curtindo em 2019
awesome
My grandma slays this jam!
crecí oyendo Mike Portnoy y creo que moriré oyendo a este mismo maestro!!!!
The Mapex drums on this album sound pretty good. I'm not playing live and don't have time crunches so it almost makes me want to get a Mapex kit. My TAMA Rockstar kit has lasted almost 20 years, though so that's probably not going to happen any time soon.