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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 8. 06. 2024
- The ESPN FC crew analyse the Tottenham Hotspur's level of effort in their 2-0 loss to Manchester City on Tuesday before considering who will win the Premier League with Man City (88 PTS) holding a narrow lead over Arsenal (86 PTS).
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Pep will never get a heart attack because his heart isn't stupid enough to attack him
Give pep his blank cheque đ€
â@@greatman5836 go to Communist China....oh wait.... Clubs spend big bucks there too. Only the poor complain about the price.
â@@greatman5836Chelsea and Manunited had more than blank cheques but they are sh$**
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@@greatman5836 Assana spent more in the last 3 seasons than City did. Cry moređ
"The fans wanted them to win the game". Craig...they were singing "Are you watching Arsenal?" When City scored their first goal. How is Postecoglu supposed to coach a team in that environment? No wonder he's pissed.
Yea, his post match press conference is really telling. If nothing improves next year I can see another Conte/Mourinho outburst.
I hope he quits and they hire an average coach like Thomas Frank cuz no good coach will wanna coach for fans that want their team to lose an imports game.
What flimzy excuse. He wasn't go enough to win all the other home games where the fans were solidly behind them. And he thinks the fans made him lose to MANCITY?
â@@Gunner1302What flimzy excuse. He wasn't go enough to win all the other home games where the fans were solidly behind them. And he thinks the fans made him lose to MANCITY?
You people are delusional. In the real world Tottenham is simply a beatable subtop team. Learn to live with it.
Steve and Craig trying to give Arsenal hopeđ
The league is done and dusted
Because until the final whistle on Sunday. There is still that slim chance that chaos happens however unlikely it is.
@@RApollos107 Chaos and City go hand in hand. Even nowadays. The last time City had an "easy" home game to see out the title win, they fell 0-2 behind to Villa. This is one City fan who won't be taking anything for granted come Sunday.
Its still possibleâ€
Far more likely Arsenal drop points against Everton. Though both will probably win.
It hurts more when you have hope
Spurs is even ready to risk their champions league qualification chances to make sure Arsenal wonât win the title
Craig is clueless about football rivalry, no Spurs fans want Arsenal winning the league
he's just clueless in general
And no Arsenal fan wants Spurs to win the league either. But sane and rational people would prioritize their own clubâs success over petty rivalry tribalism. And Spurs fans have shown time and time again that sane and rational do not exist in their heads.
Craig just happened to be genetically gifted at soccer. He doesnât like the sport and thinks people who care about it are dumb. In that way heâs like 70 percent of the players which in a way makes him correct.
@@RApollos107 that was funny.spurs winning anything ....good one .
yep pretty sure Barton saw red 2nd half in that game
I donât think a club with such a loser mentality should be considered Arsenalâs rival
In a vacuum if you asked any spurs fan
âWould you rather lose a game against Manchester city or would you rather have Arsenal win the titleâ - answer is obvious
Wishes are not horses, is that what you watched on TV for 99 minutes?
The problem is that it wasnât in a vacuum, it was win or donât get CL football next season. And not encouraging your team to go on to get back in the game because it means your rivals might (and I need to stress, as an Arsenal fan, that Spurs winning does not hand Arsenal the title) win on the final day is wild.
@@aka_jr they are not getting in the champions league anyways mate.
"Would you rather fail to qualify for UCL and get bonuses or would you rather be a petty neighbour" - the answer is obvious
â@@mak741UCL wasn't even guaranteed. Villa had to lose to crystal palace for that to happen.
It will be poetic justice for WestHam to win city and Arsenal go ahead to winđđ. It will be absolutely fantastic đđ
I hope đ
Rice add-ons at stake!
You live in a complete fantasy world đ
@johnm506 it is a possibility, mate. Forgotten the "Argueroooooo! Moment? No one thought QPR had a chance
Arsenal is a bang average team. We blues aill lunch a epl attack within 3 years time and arsenal would still be fighting for fourth place
Spurs fans are building a 500 feet statue for Son right after tonight đ
Ange needs to leave Tottenham and go to another club that has a winning mentality that includes the supporters
Agree.. love that guy
What flimzy excuse. He wasn't go enough to win all the other home games where the fans were solidly behind them. And he thinks the fans made him lose to MANCITY?.
EXACTLY . . .
Frickley Athletic it is then! Not much rivalry there apparently, so he should be OK
â@@nmelionochie8133exactly, now the fans being blamed as if they were the ones of the field đ€Ł these Arsenal fans man
Craig made a brilliant point Tottenham fans worrying about arsenal winning the league when they need to worry about themselves and trh to win an actual trophy
Craig doesnât understand you fool brilliant point how ridiculous is that.. When you invest your life and money in your club all your life it becomes your religion.
Rivalry has existed forever and you never wish good on your rivals geographically and will accept anything to not help them achieve their goals.
Tottenham are on a journey they have decisions to make for next season and from where they were after last season 5th place finish is a good achievement.
As for Arsenal 700 million spent and still going to be holding absolutely nothing to show for it so maybe they need to look at themselves rather than relying on others to help them achieve their goals.
@johnm506 lol, you have the mentality of a Ioser must be a Tottenham fanđ Nobody said anything about wishing ur rivals well, so idk what you're on about there.... we all understand rivalries and what they mean to players and fans. Even tho to Craig's point Tottenham haven't been much of a rival and i agree with that point!
I get not wanting ur rivals to win a trophy and wanting to have a hand in stopping them from doing so, but Tottenham had the chance to do just that by beating arsenal when they were in their home stadium a few weeks ago. That to me would be something Worth celebrating, beating ur rivals infront of ur fans and effectively ending their title charge, but they couldn't do that could they? So instead they had to bend over backwards and let another team beat them to achieve that effectively proving that they're nothing more than a banter club.
This is why I said Tottenham haven't been much of a rival, because they couldn't do it themselves. And I'm not even an arsenal fan, but I think it's genuinely sad that Tottenham and their fans believe that the only way they can actually compete with their biggest rivals is by losing to another team and at home too? talk about not having any shame, pride or dignity. I mean there were actually spurs fans celebrating the goals and defeat as if it was some kind of awardđ€Ł I swear only a club that's used to mediocrity could look at that as a win, but like they say "it's the history of the Tottenham" đđ
Yes, arsenal spent a lot of money but are they not making progress? And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they win the community shield against man city at the start of the season? Might not ve much but its silverware. Makes no sense for you to say they need to look at themselves when they've been doing just that hence why they're actually able to competing for the league against man city.
every team relise on other teams to help them I'm sure Tottenham were relying on Liverpool and other teams to beat villa so they could have a chance at top 4. Also, a few weeks ago man city were relying on other teams to beat arsenal so they could drop points. It's literally apart of the game so stop being a hypocrite just because it's arsenal and you don't like them for whatever reason.
Bro spurs players were literally playing like their parents were at gun point, fouling city players and stuff but ppl will give a blind eye cause itâs against cityđ
Faking to show eager but they didn't care to score at all
You are right there my brother and this Craig burley guy well, why is he is so sneaky Everytime in jabbing Mancity he never put his animosity for Mancity clearly but he definitely doesn't like this team
It's clear that this Craig burley is not happy about Mancity winning the league but it is not about being happy about someone but about the reality of how good they are on the pitch not emotions unfortunately
Naah they wasted chances. Spurs will always be spursy
Son 1v1 and he makes those but he smokes it. Could've chipped it but went low. He always makes those. Oh well, enjoy no European football next season. Hopefully we play them in 2 cups next year and eliminate them and also play them to send them out of the europa league spot. Enjoy mediocrity for the next 5 to 10yrs
In most of the predictions, Dan Thomas was spot on in many or was the closest. How is that possible when others are ex-professionals and Dan is a journalist? He predicted 2-0 and all others predicted one goal for Spurs (2-1 or 3-1).
Even pep fainted when he saw son 1 v 1 đđđ son
Y'all acting like Spurs didn't lose 4 in a row prior to their win against Burnley, some people really expected (mostly assna fans) spurs to win against City out of all the teams lol
No Craig, the fans did not want them to win. They wore throwback sky blue Spurs shirts and celebrated the man city goals. Dont lie now. They did what they said they would do.
Always happy to listen to Craig
GIVE CITY THEIR CREDIT, THESE ESPN PUNDITS CAN BE SO ANNOYING!!
Yes for 115 charges absolutely đđđđ
Which credit d*mmy? It's a staged loss
@@funkymax1 has nothing to do with what happens on the pitch. Grow up!
@@funkymax1 4 in a row, you can cry now
â@@funkymax1Innocent until proven guilty
Tottenham motto should be from this day "DARE TO LOSE" instead of Dare to Do
Literally no one knows what you're on about mate, haha
@@garfield2193 I do.
Should be "LOSERS"
so Arsenal should dispatch of Everton but itâs absurd to think city could dispatch of West ham?
Crazy how Haaland is still getting criticized for scoring both of those goals for being âtoo easyâ when in reality this was a massive game for City who havenât managed to beat Spurs at their stadium since the Pep era and this game was not only a massive title decider but a historical decider to do what no other epl club has done which is to win 4 titles in row.
So Haaland has finally performed in a big game.
Lolđ đ đ đ
No one responds anymore because of the KDB assists. We have become so used to it
He's performed in big games before.
They beat them the last time they played there.
@@jake6887so when he doesnât score, heâs a ghost. When he does, itâs cause the people around him. When will guys admit heâs world class?
City today is just like Max Verstappen in F1, Lando said: âwhenever I finish behind Max, it feels like a winâ. City is just too good man, thus no need to shame for Arsenal and Arteta, theyâve done a great job, in a different universe or era they might win the league today if its not for City.
Spurs' fans don't care about their club. They care more about hatred than winning or progression! It's disheartening for a manager that wants to see the club progress!
What flimzy excuse. He wasn't go enough to win all the other home games where the fans were solidly behind them. And he thinks the fans made him lose to MANCITY?..
You don't know what you're talking about - the proper fans, the die-hard life-long fans - wanted Spurs to lose last night BECAUSE they care so much about their club...and the deep, deep rivalry that goes with doing so. Ange is NOT a life-long supporter, he's the club's manager, so of course he's not gonna understand
After Liverpool vs Tottenham game that VAR sent two Liverpool players off I knew that City will win the league. My friends laughed at me then. Add Oddeaggard dribbling with the ball, no penalty; Dukku no penalty in the last minute.
It's faith that Ortega came in to save the 3 certain goals.
No it wasn't, it was just v good goalkeeping. Even before the match, I was of the opinion that Ortega is the best keeper at the club
Why would Asernal put their fate in other teams to beat City for them ?
Arsenal must shoulder the responsibility for squandering their opportunities in recent seasons, coming close to success only to falter when it mattered most.
why is no one saying that arsenal could draw or lose again s everton
Because they won't genius.
Because these arsenal fans believe they r the best in the league and other clubs r nobodies but i know Everton ain't losing without a fight dont know y they think they will have a easy game against Everton đđđđ
â@@youandme9569 so which team do you think is more likely to lose the game? Bear in mind, one is undefeated in the PL in 2024 and the other is not
â@@mugiwarasan23Not much of a difference. Arsenal only lost 1 game in 2024. You're acting like they've been awful or something.
@@silverheart7964 I know. But for some reason, some of these people are SURE Arsenal is beating Everton, but Man City MIGHT drop points. I want to understand the logic behind that seeing as City hasn't lost a single game since the year started and City doesn't have a reputation of losing title clinching games either
Akanji should be replaced with stones in the last match against West ham .. akanji clearly was really nervous in the match against spurs.
Silly from ESPN
Did arsenal beat man city both legs ?
Thinking be hard for some.
The win and drew
Barton was sent off halfway through the 2nd half, FYI.
That 2011 side is no way even pale shadow of this city side, it will be easy peasy win for city Arsenal should worry about Everton remember last season what the did
Greyđ
Man that arsenal game at st James park has come back to haunt reteta
Is it just me, but the last 2,3 season of PL were very tough, especially last 2-3 weeksđ đ
I'm sorry to say but spurs fans are really ignorant because city winning will not give spurs a ucl spot or Arsenal winning the league will deduct points from spurs and the players too buy in the idea đ đ
Joey Barton got sent off in the second half.
Son would've scored that if the game was at a different time of the season, it was no point scoring that, a draw does nothing for them. I'm not saying he missed on purpose though
Totally pathetic
The love they have for their club is nowhere near the hate they have for arsenal
Rubbish - the stronger the love for their own club, the stronger is the hate for Arsenal. The two are connected. The only Spurs fans that wanted to get a result vs City last night were the half-arsed, don't-really-care brigade
Spurs players really wanted to win this game with all seriousness. Yes, some of the fans didn't care about losing this game, but Spurs players were playing all their best to win this match.
Arsenal blaming Son as if he shd ve pressed a magic button to make Ortega disappear from his way b4 kicking the ball.
Did u watch Aston villa vs Liverpool last night? The first goal the gk let in vs Villa n a sitter missed by Villa?
Didn't Arsenal miss chances vs Villa when they lost to them?
FAshould deduct City and Tottenham 3 points each for ruining integrity of the premier League
Tottenham fans after the season ends will be saying to Arsenal fans That they have not won a single trophy đđđđđ
Liverpool had a better season
This rivalry was leading this game and people can't speak well about this game, Spurs was the better side in this game and City played bad especially in the 1st half and people talking about rivalry making it looks more of Spurs lost on purpose but Arsenal was bad against United and won
Spurs played well in the first half but there were some very questionable performances from some spurs players . Romero was deliberately trying to get himself sent off in the second half and as for Son , we will never know but this game has confirmed certain suspicions Iâve had about football players
MBAPPPE TO CITY COME ON PEOPLE LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN
Fascinating how the panel is talking up the potential problems WH could create for City yet thereâs virtually no talk of the problems Everton could cause for Arsenal. On paper, both should beat their respective opposition Sunday, but both WH and Everton could be tricky too. There are no given wins in the PL and anyone who think City or Arsenal are guaranteed to win this Sunday could be sorely mistakenâŠ
Everton are much the poorer of the 2 away teams though. West Ham on their day can beat anyone.
Son read the script correctly đ€Ł
There is nothing to discuss. City will win no matter what. Waste of time to discuss this .
Because they cheat
What about the 115 charges against Man City?
Son missed the chance on purpose or the atmosphere created by their fans.. on normal days, he would put that chance away.. FACT
How can Craig be that off when he's played in London for so long. You can clearly see Jurgan would have deliberately lost if he were playing today.
And no, Son 100% missed that on purpose.
Craig doesnât like soccer. He thinks itâs stupid and consequent finds the fans unimaginably dumb. Jurgen likes the sport so he understands fans/ rivalries. Honestly Craig is probably closer to the truth. Sports are dumb and the players barely care anymore so why do fans care.
I feel for Ange!
What flimzy excuse. He wasn't go enough to win all the other home games where the fans were solidly behind them. And he thinks the fans made him lose to MANCITY??
Spurs wonât even qualify for the Conference League. Play stupid games won stupid prizes.
Craig city can also dispatch west ham. Everton can also beat Arsenal .
As a Barcelona fan and a glory hunter of City since last June (excluding last October when they lost a few games) thank you Oilchester C115y for giving me something to celebrate this season đ
Oh it's eL-raL's fake copycat đđ
Imposter đđ
Who cares about dead club. Stop crying đđ
Does Man City not having any rivals in the Premier League give them a significant advantage over the other classic âBig 6â?
Son had it all in his hands đ
He had bigger fish to fry
This game was fixed, period..Spurs players didn't want to score,Son has scored so many goals in that similar position...I think money exchanged hands,he didn't try to chip Ortega.. just hit the ball towards Ortegas leg
Now it doesnât matter if Arsenal win vs Everton. Just win against WU. Thatâs it.
9 times out of 10, Son chips that in.
Ange is Better at Man United
Dan !!! Please remove Jurgen Klinsman from ESPN FC... he is messsing up the fun and great minds of the show!
..He considers rivalry over rational and concrete thoughts! We as viewers do not need him on the show! We want pundits or commentators who are rational and professional in the material they deliver to knowledgeable audience!
Any Spurs Fan Would Rather Lose Fifty Goal To Nil To Man city Than Beat Man City And Hand The Prem Title To Arsenal!! As A Spurs Fan I enjoyed Losing Yesterday!!!!!!!! And am sure Man City Fans Would do the Same if it meant Man city Losing would ensure that Man United Lost the Prem Title!
Son not missing on purpose boy burley you sure boy
Espn is making every odd for Westham to cause an upset at the Etihad where the tittle is at stake
People pissed at Spurs for letting this one slip away donât realize Manchester City is one of the best teams in the world right now. If it wasnât for Ancelottis deep park the bus in the UCL they wouldâve gone through. Well oiled machine that deserves this PL title. Arsenal shouldâve just won more games and spurs still get Europa soooo
Son just had 1 job and did it like a K-drama mob boss đđ„
I though that German guy has problem with pep
Son Heung-Miss - now the biggest legend in Spurs history đ
He actually didn't miss his shot... it was saved.
@@B.B.1961he literally shot it straight to the GK he has to be trolling lol
â@@chaditaqi2911so kolo muani shot it straight at the keeper? Spurs had a good performance just that city haters will blame everything and anything other than the fact that we deserved to win, vicario saved spurs many a times eitherways shoulda ended 4-0
Premier League is a snooze. Without Klopp City would have won the league by February each year
As much as it seems a near guarantee that Man City will win the league. It still feels like all the pressure is on them on Sunday. Arsenal will play with really nothing to lose because they could lose out on the league regardless of their result against Everton. But Arsenal have the GD advantage locked up if City draw with West Ham, City have zero room for error. Yeah win and City are champions. But now itâs literally City drop any points and Arsenal win the league if they beat Everton.
What's there to admire about Arsenal except what happened 20 years ago?
Is that a question
Am an Arsenal fan, we lost to Villa at home, that cost us.
We will be back stronger next season.
You lot say this every season just to be second best đ
This ESPN team making it seem like it'll be easier for Arsenal to beat Everton than for City to beat West Ham. đđ punditry at its best
Future looks bright for Tottenham
You cannot go toe to toe with city and if try you lose . Why Arsenal didnât try to win at Etihad rather than relying of spurs.
Spuds are useless not only for themselves but for other teams as well! Period.
The way Tottenham played I had a wild guess that they r playing for City to win n to spoil Arsenal party. Specially the second half it's anyone's guess
Son missed that chance on PURPOSE đ
Ortega.đ„đ„
Hear his mindset... Irrational and not a true professional. Nobody should hire him as a manager! What if he was in Ange shoes? Would he consider the non-sensical ideas of irrational fans!.. Ange is a professional and wants hos team to win not lose!
Spurs a small team
Ange deserves better. That manager deserves to manage a better club than that pathetic football club called spurs. I also don't understand this so called North London rivalry. I mean geographically, yes. But in terms of titles won, spurs are nowhere our rivals. Arsenal with this ever improving squad is gonna win big titles in the next 4,5 years. So if spurs fans are ecstatic that they've prevented arsenal from winning the league, well, This team is going nowhere. It will come back more strongly next season. Can't say the same about spurs thoughđ
Ange for Man Utd
Itâs easy to win when youâre cheating.
Did Man Utd want to loose versus Arsenal?
I love Villa more than Spurs from a Man U fan đđ
Pundits say what Ever City are Winning a 4th Title Period
It must be nice being city and having no rivals.
At the end son did what is right, not letting arsenal win, thank you son................................................
35 dollers đ it's ÂŁÂŁs
West Ham will beat us đđ c'mon we are friends. No disrespect to West Ham my neighbor and favourite in London.
Craig loves Arsenal
"Heung Min Son is not missing that chance on purpose"
Just watch the replay. Just see how tame the shot is. Just see how close to the keeper it is. Comparing it to the Martinez save is laughable. The ball didn't even go beyond Ortega's upper thigh.
All while he has the near post wide open to curl it in with his strong right foot ?
How many times have you seen that in 9 yrs ?
A 30+ year Son trying to save face with the fans by not doing Arsenal the biggest favor ever VS another chance at playing in the UCL ???
It's not as bizzare as one may think.
Is Spurs Real Madrid? You people talk like they play better than Man City
Enem Madrid don't play better...parked the bus and won on penalties...fair play still
â@harshdeshmukh66 That was Real Madrid plan, the goal is go through and they went through
Newcastle 1-0 arsenal..... hahahaha. Three checks by var to give Newcastle that goal
You play a sport to win not lose!.. It was great that the USA federation got rid of him! Such small mindset by a person who play for Germany and other clubs...
Thatâs funny everyone gets paid regardless so clearly thatâs not why they play the game.
Craig talking đ© as usual, the meaning tribal rivalry is different from rivalry based competing for cups, Tottenhamâs rivalry with Arsenal is based tribal hate, unless you a fan of both clubs you wonât have clue simple
Childish rivalry...no respect for the game