Helldivers 2 New Warbond May Get Delayed?! CONFIRMED Some Huge Balance Changes Are Coming!

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    Helldivers 2 New Warbond Delayed?! CONFIRMED Some Huge Balance Changes Are Coming!
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  • @light6532
    @light6532 Pƙed 23 dny +155

    Your Balancing Manager is actually the same person who ruined Hello Neighbour 2 with his obnoxious balancing

    • @coolcatmcfat7658
      @coolcatmcfat7658 Pƙed 23 dny +25

      Idk what he’s smoking when he said the eruptor is still a “really good option”. It’s worse than the liberator lol

    • @light6532
      @light6532 Pƙed 23 dny +22

      @@coolcatmcfat7658 exactly. When the warbond arrived. It was so good to use. Yes it can kill ya in close range but what do you expect from explosive.
      Whats funny about it as I been told by a friend. The Balancing Manager only play on 4 difficulty and only 4

    • @TheRiolumon
      @TheRiolumon Pƙed 23 dny +1

      Hold up is that true?

    • @xKontractKi11er
      @xKontractKi11er Pƙed 23 dny +2

      Aw no, my explosive sniper rifle doesn't clear crowds of enemies anymore. Waah. It was never meant to be used for crowds. The only general purpose primary is the Liberator. Every other primary is for specific use. Learn to be good at the game and solid tactics

    • @light6532
      @light6532 Pƙed 23 dny +15

      @@xKontractKi11er yeah ok. Having 3 Bile Titan, bunch of Hunter, spewers puking in Helldive difficulty and All I do is Spam my Stim button is consider being a good tactic while having modifier to make the stratagem look worst. Yeah seem balanced. Spray my liberator with a whole mag and it still alive. Yeah seem balanced at all

  • @mr.l5783
    @mr.l5783 Pƙed 23 dny +34

    Its hard to get excited for a new Warbond when we know the items we grind for may be nerfed.

    • @OutsideTheRopes
      @OutsideTheRopes Pƙed 23 dny

      I feel the same way. And most likely only one of the weapons are actually going to be usable to begin with.

    • @pse2020
      @pse2020 Pƙed 22 dny +1

      Not only that, the fact the breaker is still better then most new weapons is also sad... Nothing is better then the anti-tank, anti material and breaker... :) how ever, i do my own balancing, i refuse to change my play style, so i just change difficulty everytime they nerf or buff something.

    • @vladolfputler5685
      @vladolfputler5685 Pƙed 22 dny +1

      ​@@pse2020Must be fun having OCD

    • @pse2020
      @pse2020 Pƙed 22 dny

      @@vladolfputler5685 ha?

    • @alexpena4091
      @alexpena4091 Pƙed 22 dny

      I stick with the sickle as my primary i tried the shotguns and just ran through ammo to quickly

  • @apersonthatis7007
    @apersonthatis7007 Pƙed 23 dny +186

    Title is misleading, there is a vote going on to decide if the warbond gets delayed, it's not guaranteed getting delayed.
    Edit: title now accurately reflects content in video

    • @VoiceOfSeibun
      @VoiceOfSeibun Pƙed 23 dny +42

      For one thing, Cloud tends to do this shit. No, the Warbond ISN'T getting delayed, and he pissed me off with this. Second, this Zecr guy? Is a total nancy, and I'm sick to death of the complaint sub-culture that's latched onto this game like a lamprey eel.
      Really, dudes, if you dislike playing it so much, go play something else! Go on, make us both happy!

    • @Aggro224
      @Aggro224 Pƙed 23 dny

      What vote?

    • @wanerbdjs
      @wanerbdjs Pƙed 23 dny +10

      ​@@VoiceOfSeibungot a point about the complaints. I won't fault complaints about crashes or performance issues but everytime they nerf or balance the weapons people get way too mad about it.

    • @duross101
      @duross101 Pƙed 23 dny +1

      To be fair everyone is doing this in their titles

    • @Thatbeardedguy86
      @Thatbeardedguy86 Pƙed 23 dny +4

      @@wanerbdjscompletely agree with you. While yeah it may suck, people are way too emotional these days.

  • @xephyrexe5246
    @xephyrexe5246 Pƙed 23 dny +24

    Warbond is not getting delayed. I just voted on the poll for it to release tomorrow and it was at 74% as opposed to 26% for the option to delay it.

    • @Omni0404
      @Omni0404 Pƙed 23 dny

      A pack of apes is not going to vote for delayed gratification. This way the players can't push back afterwards since it was "player choice."

  • @Hypedkat
    @Hypedkat Pƙed 23 dny +70

    warbond at this time is over 70% for the release of it tomorrow đŸ’›đŸ–€

    • @zacfor4454
      @zacfor4454 Pƙed 23 dny +10

      That's good, I don't see a reason to delay it for no actual gameplay reason like bugs or something. If it's finished they should release it on time

    • @cmac1600
      @cmac1600 Pƙed 23 dny

      In fairness, buying the warbond is optional. So we won't have an issue with it really.

    • @zeroxexe111
      @zeroxexe111 Pƙed 23 dny

      If we waited I wonder what would've happened?

    • @skylerspurlock4755
      @skylerspurlock4755 Pƙed 23 dny

      Good!

    • @billschulz1304
      @billschulz1304 Pƙed 23 dny

      Should be a 3rd option we make all the previous war bonds unlocked feel like shit to sell the new ones.

  • @aaronolson6736
    @aaronolson6736 Pƙed 23 dny +8

    Deep Rock Galactic's approach to mods was embracing their modding community, lobbies are tagged whether they're using mods or not. For Helldivers2 it would probably be a toggle on the Galactic War map to show/hide missions using mods, either modded lobbies won't be tracked for the war or make sure mods are purely cosmetic.

    • @Dodman531
      @Dodman531 Pƙed 22 dny

      Cosmetic mods would go quite hard

  • @Deram1Axres
    @Deram1Axres Pƙed 23 dny +14

    I want the warbond tomorrow thats for sure, just finished getting medal capped for it. Also, since this last major patch, anyone else feel like they are getting at least 3x the amount of patrols even on lower difficulty when playing solo (which is a lot more than going from 1/6 to 1/4 as they said) and the AI seems to just always know where you are even when not alerted? I just can't get away from patrols, they spawn and immediately go to me even if I haven't shot once in the map, if I circle around them, I can watch on my mini-map as they do a 180 even though again, I haven't made any sound. I drug a patrol across the entire map, they were never in the alerted state, but constantly followed me. This kind of defeats the point of a sound system if the AI will just slowly track me the entire time anyway, sure they aren't running, but I can't engage any target without the 1-3 patrols following me getting involved. Even when I do the extraction I get overwhelmed with 5-6 patrols immediately spawning where as before it was usually 2-3 at a time and more can in, at least the cluster exists as that wipes out most of the little guys, but still a major increase in enemies. I have only tested this on T5 and t7 difficulties solo, but it seems like they either heavily buffed the patrols on accident or lied on their patch updates. đŸ’›đŸ–€

    • @E3.20
      @E3.20 Pƙed 23 dny +4

      Nope, I’m with you on that patrol tracking you despite you being stealth. I was playing 7.

    • @barstoolbanter7212
      @barstoolbanter7212 Pƙed 23 dny +2

      Killing over 1k enemies on difficulty 5. Absolutely insane.

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat Pƙed 23 dny +2

      600 bugs dead in EVERY challenging misssion solo, and I try to actively avoid too many fights so I can cover more ground. I’m barely hitting 650-750 in a 4stack on suicidal+.
      My duo friend is a few kore missions away from a table flip as every time we play we get swarmed and patrols spawn behind us then engage with hunters/missiles/machine guns from an area that was clear 5 seconds previous.

    • @ShinobiGunZ
      @ShinobiGunZ Pƙed 22 dny

      i agree the patrols are way to much. i was doing easy mode just to farm some SC for next warbond and i swear there were 3 patrols constantly following me but not engaging and if one got alerted the other 2 patrols joined in and i seen patrols spawn on top of me even tho there wasnt any enemies around this was on diff 7 in a 3 person squad with friends. and being able to finally play with my friends we normally are in a 3 person squad the enemies dont give any breaks in between killing patrols to call a resupply since our ammo got confiscated by the devs

    • @Deram1Axres
      @Deram1Axres Pƙed 22 dny +1

      @@ShinobiGunZ Ya, I switched to the Blitzer against bugs completely because of these ammo changes. Solo I'm constantly out because I'm the only one shooting and in groups it makes it easier for everyone to have some ammo off if at least one person is using an energy primary.

  • @Newt211
    @Newt211 Pƙed 23 dny +27

    I wasn’t crashing pre patch, now I am. Yay

    • @zeroxexe111
      @zeroxexe111 Pƙed 23 dny +1

      You ARE WORTHY!

    • @SilverSkywalker
      @SilverSkywalker Pƙed 23 dny +2

      I've crashed so many times since that update. Ridiculous. Smh.

    • @thrillconfirmed23
      @thrillconfirmed23 Pƙed 23 dny +1

      100% same here. Out of 70 hrs of playtime I had crashed once. Update hits, I literally crash mid-game 4 times in a row!


    • @RJ-mh3ox
      @RJ-mh3ox Pƙed 23 dny

      Just fixed my shit and now this đŸ€ŠđŸœâ€â™‚ïž

  • @praxus7168
    @praxus7168 Pƙed 23 dny +8

    Regarding balance, what if chargers and Titans were dynamic to a mission like shriekers and stalkers are? I propose the addition of a web chart before dropping into a mission that shows enemy air, armor, large, spawns, and numbers. Is air presence high? The team should bring more lasers and air burst. Lots of armor? Bring arc and anti-armor. Are the enemy numbers out of control? Might be a good idea to bring the machine guns and corrosive strike to thin them out faster.
    To condense a big idea down to a few sentences, if the enemy forces are dynamic, and doesn't always require dealing with heavy armor, we can better diversify our load-outs so as to not always rely on a meta cause the meta will change with each mission.

    • @SilentSpeak
      @SilentSpeak Pƙed 23 dny +4

      Too bad people never take time to read a long comment. You have a genuinely solid good ass idea right here. I can honestly say I never thought of it before and it sounds perfect for the game right freaking now

    • @TheRealDraigen77
      @TheRealDraigen77 Pƙed 23 dny +2

      The devs could also see what planets/missions are actually getting played and figure out that getting swarmed by 5 bile titans and 8-10 chargers and dealing with chaff all at once just isn't fun.

    • @xKontractKi11er
      @xKontractKi11er Pƙed 23 dny +2

      Exactly, this game is more than just point and shoot. Tactics are a big part of winning

  • @thisguy7078
    @thisguy7078 Pƙed 23 dny +35

    I’m excited for the new warbond but I do wish they fixed and balanced the weapons to a more fun degree. Instead of just nurf hammer into the ground! đŸ–€đŸ’›

    • @CloudPlays
      @CloudPlays  Pƙed 23 dny +4

      Yeah I agree with all this

    • @zacfor4454
      @zacfor4454 Pƙed 23 dny +3

      I mean they do? Try the Blitzer buff or the laser cannon buff. Or the plasma shotgun but I can't remember the name of....

    • @kaloifortich4491
      @kaloifortich4491 Pƙed 23 dny +2

      so many of the guns were improved in the last patch. only bow and eruptor were badly balanced IMO.

    • @rickyknox3374
      @rickyknox3374 Pƙed 23 dny

      @@zacfor4454honestly we should never have to pay for content that’s not finished yet. They release stuff nerf it and maybe buff it to something worth buying 1-2 months later? Thats a recipe for player animosity if there ever was one. The first couple times it was ok “new game” but now it’s looking like it’s gonna be a continuous theme for every warbond to have decent stuff we like get nerfed after we spent the money. Guarantee there’s ALOT of players that bought the most recent warbond for the erupter are pissed and all people that don’t have money to throw away or are on a tight budget(most people) are gonna think twice before buying that content. I’ve bought all the content up until now, they’ve done the Same exact thing every time. If I keep buying them and they keep changing it on me I’ll have myself to blame. I can’t be the only one that feels this way and I bet if they look there’s gonna be a ton of people tht have bought them all and tomorrow won’t be in. I’m sure I’ll give in eventually but if they don’t prove me wrong this time I won’t be buying anything else. If they clearly don’t respect my opinion or the time I spend playing the game then fuck them

    • @xKontractKi11er
      @xKontractKi11er Pƙed 23 dny +2

      This community is what's wrong with the gaming community. We have an excellent game, excellent and communicative Devs. Yet all we do is freaking complain about anything they do. It's sad and why AAA Devs barely listen to gamers.
      Yall are never happy

  • @warnpeace5294
    @warnpeace5294 Pƙed 23 dny +8

    The enemy is putting on more armor and our ammo supplies are dwindling we have to be more strategic with our attacks going forth Divers. (Explaining the nerfs)

    • @xKontractKi11er
      @xKontractKi11er Pƙed 23 dny +1

      Exactly, this game has more to it than just point and shoot. There are supply lines, Super Colonies, and the further you go from Super Earth, the harder the enemies become.

  • @Moodyman90
    @Moodyman90 Pƙed 23 dny +4

    While not a hard rule, primaries and support weapons should be able to do one of two jobs very well. One is chaff clearing, so your lowish damage, high rate of fire, large ammo capacity and/or AoE/DoT weapons. Think the Breaker line of shotguns, flamethrower, Stalwart machine gun. The other is "threat removers", so low rates of fire but huge damage and tends to have low ammo capacity. I don't think I need to list examples of this outside of EATs. The issue that I see the community have and I share in their opinion is that certain weapons that are really good at one tends to get nerfed and in the case of the Eruptor, nerfed in a way so that it can't even do what it's intended to do. When you need to mag dump the Eruptor, a five shot, six magazine, bolt action so slow to fire weapon, into anything classified as "medium" to kill it, you've made it bad at it's one job. Related to this is actually the crossbow. The crossbow is suppose to be, on paper anyways, on part with the Eruptor. I mean, it is now, but that's not a good thing. The one thing the crossbow was good at was dealing with the numerous smaller threats when grouped up, but then they "balanced" it to be just for "medium" threats and it's just not good at that. I'm not saying they should make them one shot any non-chaff enemies, but they should be able to take down their intended target within three hits to the weak point at most.

  • @rclsm1021
    @rclsm1021 Pƙed 23 dny +3

    The balancing manager has to get the axe aye. All he does is playing the whack on mole with whatever weapon is more used, therefore keeping every weapon mid to garbage.

    • @lowjack6634
      @lowjack6634 Pƙed 22 dny

      Fire or demote him.

    • @TheRonan92
      @TheRonan92 Pƙed 22 dny

      All you did there was explain weapon balancing using different vocab hahahahahaha

  • @keldon_champion
    @keldon_champion Pƙed 23 dny +2

    I think the issue that is hurting helldivers 2 the most isn't the changes they have made it's that it is constantly changing, it seems like every other week they screw with everything. I haven't been upset by any of the changes but they change things so often that it feels like every time I figure out what I like they change it which is really frustrating.

  • @moremoneyplease6838
    @moremoneyplease6838 Pƙed 23 dny +15

    it's very hard to find my roots again and Actually have some fun, when everytime i Actually have some fun with a weapon, or a planet in this game, LITERALLY THE NEXT PATCH they absolutely assassinate the weapon/stratagem/mission i enjoyed to make it as anti fun as possible.

    • @burn1none
      @burn1none Pƙed 23 dny +8

      you really have to hide the fun from the devs in this game it's wild man

    • @xKontractKi11er
      @xKontractKi11er Pƙed 23 dny +3

      Yall are over reacting. They are trying to balance the weapons to make it more tactical rather than just a dull point and shoot game. Hence why you have support weapons and strategems. Your primary isn't the only way to kill things.

    • @cheapwine3365
      @cheapwine3365 Pƙed 23 dny +4

      @@xKontractKi11er definitely not an over reaction. they are making this game harder than most people want it to be and are over-nerfing instead of doing it in small increments. the majority of players are casual run and gun types of people, not ultra tacticool. people just wanna drop onto a planet and feel like a badass shooting shit lol.

    • @Pr0m3th310us
      @Pr0m3th310us Pƙed 22 dny +1

      ​@@xKontractKi11er ruining the game is not balancing it

    • @TheRonan92
      @TheRonan92 Pƙed 22 dny

      if weapon balances ruin a game for you I'd hate to see what happens when something happens to you irl that you need to deal with. đŸ€Ą

  • @travistesluk3986
    @travistesluk3986 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    It can be tough to find a groove and enjoy the game with how much they seem to scramble and struggle with “balancing” everything. As for the Warbond, I really like the approach of asking the community. They have to get Warbonds out, but didn’t outright decide to delay it, which would’ve made them look gun shy.
    You do a great job covering this game, just subscribed! đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @ubcsboomdaddy5181
    @ubcsboomdaddy5181 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    My only annoyance is the spawn rates. Cant really stealth anymore when 2 of em are created right on top of eachother

  • @DaxRaider
    @DaxRaider Pƙed 23 dny +20

    Cloud tends to do this shit. No, the Warbond ISN'T getting delayed

    • @kaloifortich4491
      @kaloifortich4491 Pƙed 23 dny

      bruh, as of time of release of this video, the poll is still ongoing, most likely the warbond is pushing through with the majority in favor of a release but as long as the results arent final, no one should really say in absolute certainty.

    • @GregAndrews03
      @GregAndrews03 Pƙed 23 dny

      As do the majority of other content creators. Do you think cloud is different? Jesus christ đŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™‚ïž

    • @zeroxexe111
      @zeroxexe111 Pƙed 23 dny

      They're(cloud plays) human chill out!

    • @qwerty10384
      @qwerty10384 Pƙed 22 dny

      @@zeroxexe111no its not "theyre human" they are just petty clickbaiting and it sucks beceause cloud is the fastest helldiver news guy on yt

  • @SoggyBeans232
    @SoggyBeans232 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ Man Helldivers has been a trip these past few days. Hope things get back on track

  • @justinwright7297
    @justinwright7297 Pƙed 23 dny

    Thank you for the updates. I am a trucker in the US. So it's hard to keep track with all the hours I am driving

  • @riccardoaimo6990
    @riccardoaimo6990 Pƙed 23 dny +4

    I already done my part on votingđŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @johnfowler518
    @johnfowler518 Pƙed 23 dny +5

    Would love to see a Sony Liberty Day cape drop tomorrow!! 👊😎

    • @baneintherain
      @baneintherain Pƙed 23 dny +1

      And those treasonous traitors will get dealt with on the battlefield.

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat Pƙed 23 dny +1

      @@baneintheraintrue enough, the only good SOnY suckler is an eagle clustered SOnY sycophant.

    • @baneintherain
      @baneintherain Pƙed 23 dny

      @IRMentat uh, no. You misunderstood. The traitors are the ones who tried to fight against Managed Democracy and didn't want to take orders. The ones that turned on the publisher and developers. Treason. And now you've been found to be one. Stand by for re-education as I alert the nearest Ministry of Truth officer.

  • @jofac22
    @jofac22 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    That post reminds me of a DnD discussion.
    Essentially some people prefer roleplaying and others preferred the combat and number crunching of making a build. I don't think either is wrong, people just enjoy recreation in different ways.

  • @user-oz5qw5in6o
    @user-oz5qw5in6o Pƙed 22 dny

    Thanks for the upload Cloud đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @ci825
    @ci825 Pƙed 23 dny

    I think spray n pray should keep its dmg (or maybe increase by 10-15) and get it 15-20 extra rounds. It’ll be weaker than incendiary but it’ll make up for it by living up to its name

  • @justaregularguy9874
    @justaregularguy9874 Pƙed 22 dny

    9:31 TLDR: The Incendiary Breaker kills most of the Patrol over time, the Spray and Pray kills all the Lights immediately and leaves the Mediums and Heavies for other weapons. If you played with both, you would realize you're comparing apples to oranges. You can't determine balance from the descriptions page because those are only 4 stats out of over 50 for each weapon.

  • @dwhite-mann5399
    @dwhite-mann5399 Pƙed 22 dny

    I liked running the explosive sniper with the flamethrower but now its terrible lol.
    Sometimes my upgrades for my fire damage buff doesn't work when i join others too so it ruins both my guns of choice ha

  • @reaperog8310
    @reaperog8310 Pƙed 23 dny

    In my personal opinion, I played with the raptor after the so-called Nerf. I think it’s fine. I still get the same amount of kills. If not, maybe one extra but I do think is that the quasar canon should have that five seconds taken off of it and making the reload times for other, main weapons like that is to decrease the reload time

  • @BetarayBillLover
    @BetarayBillLover Pƙed 23 dny +3

    11:23 tf is he talking about that’s such a small percentage of players most players just have a issue with the weapons feeling bad and complain about it and if we don’t voice out concerns shit will never change and it’ll just get worse smh I hate the “guys stop whining” mentality sm

    • @xKontractKi11er
      @xKontractKi11er Pƙed 23 dny

      Yeah, stop whining. Erupter is still fun. There are different weapons for each mission. 1 weapon will not work for every mission type or situation and everyone is just complaining about it.

    • @BetarayBillLover
      @BetarayBillLover Pƙed 23 dny +1

      @@xKontractKi11er yeah cuz it’s complete ass now and not useful for any mission type. ceo literally agreed they’ve been going to hard so idk why the concept is so hard to grasp for the contrarians

    • @darkpheonix831
      @darkpheonix831 Pƙed 23 dny +1

      I think mistake they're making is that these issues are hand in hand.
      The game was fun and had a very strong aesthetic, but overtime balance patches have changed the core driver dramatically.
      People eventually catch on and begin to dread the updates, desperately looking for what works and to experiment.
      I'm quite sure that if the game can figure itself out of this balancing gutter, the communal focus will shift back into the immersive ecosystem.
      Also, I followed up on the thread. OP is an egotistical ass.

    • @BetarayBillLover
      @BetarayBillLover Pƙed 23 dny

      @@darkpheonix831 like the OP of the Reddit post?

    • @darkpheonix831
      @darkpheonix831 Pƙed 23 dny +1

      @@BetarayBillLover yes. Seems like he did it for attention and snobbishly feigns ignorance.

  • @twinkieinyomowf6033
    @twinkieinyomowf6033 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    i spent 2 hours farming the easiest difficulty for super credits to get the warbond so i reaaally hope its not delayed and i wasted my time doing something i didnt need to rush for

  • @paulrowlands2105
    @paulrowlands2105 Pƙed 22 dny

    I am a helldiver from sector 1 ancient times it was referred to as Australia I was driving to a friend's house today and in the distance I saw a massive tree and in the Fog I must stuck it a screech Nest and I had flashbacks

  • @Vhufz
    @Vhufz Pƙed 23 dny

    @cloudplay thank for the video

  • @IRMentat
    @IRMentat Pƙed 23 dny +1

    9:46 the spray n pray ALSO can’t hit a damned charger at 5 paces. It’s cone of fire is utter insanity, at the least the vertical cone of fire needs to be 1/4 of the current value.
    11:45 all you need is 3 seconds and a glance at the gun stats to see how utterly useless/cookie-cutter 75% of the weapons have become.
    The standouts were butchered until they confirmed and all their unique features removed (slugger crate-break, Eruptor shrapnel and AoE, crossbow AoE, railgun had its heavy-pen removed for almost a month, spray n pray got it’s core stats handed to the incendiary (the the devs buffed fire procs).That doesn’t take spreadsheets or an eye for detail if just takes a glance to see how the unique aspects were removed.

  • @DarkFoxes
    @DarkFoxes Pƙed 22 dny

    Quick tell on mods which cloud didn't really catch : modding any game whether online or offline is client sided, if I for example replaced the default helldiver armour with a mandalorian armour, only I would be able to see it, the random joining my game will just see *the default armour* I on the other hand if the random is wearing default armour too would look like a mandalorian as well as the mod modified my files to make that armour look that way.

  • @Slittle86
    @Slittle86 Pƙed 22 dny

    ❄❄
    Love the content and info sir

  • @chae7684
    @chae7684 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    They could always release it as a second free warbond or at a discounted price 500-700 super credits. Would go a long way to score some browny points đŸ–€đŸ’›

  • @Somebody62780
    @Somebody62780 Pƙed 23 dny +15

    It’s understandable that they wanna delay the war bond, they got a lot on their plate right now especially after the whole PlayStation linking stuff, so I don’t really mind if they delay or not đŸ–€đŸ’›

    • @CloudPlays
      @CloudPlays  Pƙed 23 dny +1

      Yeah I understand the quizzing on it from there part

    • @JACKAL98
      @JACKAL98 Pƙed 23 dny

      ​@@CloudPlaysyour an ass content creator

  • @El_Sparky
    @El_Sparky Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€ the fact that Johan is grounded in noticing everything going on and even putting the vote towards the warbond delay is reason why we stand with the devs. Release the warbond and let the community sink their teeth into more content. The fact that they are addressing everything and it’s something they can’t control the speed of that outcome is faaaaarrr better than most AAA studios

  • @satan6167
    @satan6167 Pƙed 23 dny +2

    im just interested in the warbond for the secondary weapon lol đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @thepyrokitten
    @thepyrokitten Pƙed 22 dny

    I agree with the CEO. This began back with the original railgun nerf. The 'unsafe' mode should've kept the same damage profile. Otherwise, everything should be buffed to become equal to the same level of power rather than nerfing the railgun.
    That and Arrowhead seems to have a particular hatred for anyone who plays the game solo and anyone who doesn't prefer the hardest difficulties.
    In a game with so many slows and enemies, give us OP things. It still only gives us a fighting chance because of how outnumbered we are.

  • @Jaedeok82
    @Jaedeok82 Pƙed 22 dny

    Balance changes happen, I get it, but the Eruptor was just handled really clumsily. You've got a slow-loading bolt-action weapon with a tiny magazine size in a game where there's 50+ enemies on screen at a time. It damn well better hit like a truck. So they half the number of magazines, increase the damage dropoff on the explosion to weaken it, and then also turn around and remove the shrapnel, give you the damage from a single shrapnel piece and say it's going to be a net gain, while also forgetting that you're completely relying on the explosion effect you just nerfed the dropoff on, and you wonder why it feels like dogcrap? How was this not readily apparent that it would suck? If you're going to make it take 3-4 hits to kill things, you can't tell us to run around with a 5 round magazine with a reload time after each shot and say it's fine. You've got to give us -something- here.

  • @joshfarmer7412
    @joshfarmer7412 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Why would anyone want the warbond delayed? I’m level 71 and I’ve got nothing to play for ‘grind’ wise now apart from the new warbonds, such a dumb idea to delay content on a live service game that’s already just lost player count, like yeah let’s just cut some content as wellđŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™‚ïž

    • @tfromthasix1956
      @tfromthasix1956 Pƙed 22 dny

      Yes it's lost players naturally as the excitement of a new game wears off but if you're referring to the Sony incident for the player count going down, looking at the charts - it did virtually nothing. It's still peaked over 100k on Steam alone

  • @caseyczarnomski8054
    @caseyczarnomski8054 Pƙed 23 dny

    Nurfs and buffs I'm not worried about. There is enough weapon selection with more being added that I expect things will change over time. My concern is what do you do once you have everything and your maxed out on samples, requisition, metals, and levels? I have 400+ hours in the game so I got my money's worth, but that isn't my concern. I would rather have something to work towards earning than dive for a major order or daily orders and get 0 metals because I'm maxed. At this point I save super credits for the next warbond, and once I have them my incentive to play is gone.

  • @nicklong8435
    @nicklong8435 Pƙed 23 dny

    To the nerfs and stuff I was starting to not have fun anymore cuz there was just no guns that felt fun. I almost quit playing but then I found the blitzer after buff and I’m so hooked again

  • @TenaciousMarine
    @TenaciousMarine Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ–€đŸ’› i really hope they drop tomorrow, and the reception is completely positive im maxed out on all my warbonds i need a grind😅

  • @beyondether7164
    @beyondether7164 Pƙed 22 dny

    What's tone deaf is to have a poll the day before it's supposed to be released as if we weren't waiting for it.
    It's gives a feeling of disappointment like no I got my super credits ready.

  • @Escape8201
    @Escape8201 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€the development around this game is always crazy ^^ lets see how it goes

  • @oesninja8741
    @oesninja8741 Pƙed 22 dny

    The community is still really tense, can't wait for things to go back to normal đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @Destrothedestroyed
    @Destrothedestroyed Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ I am 50/50 on the warbond releasing tomorrow,While I want it I don't have the creds right now anyways since soloing has been killed and still waiting on the region lock to be lifted for my squadmate so taking an extra week to do some fixes would be better in my opinion really.

  • @antonbengard4221
    @antonbengard4221 Pƙed 23 dny

    The ONLY change that is needed to the balancing philosophy, is what was said about changing stats other than damage. Fundamentally, the balancing is not a problem. The lack of balance is. If a specific weapon is used way more than others its gets a nerf. Simple as that. They don't always get it right, but more often than the players are saying. Especially considering that bringing every weapon up is a long term plan. The railgun was too strong. The slugger was too strong (no reason to use the punisher), the quasar was too strong, etc.

  • @Smaxx
    @Smaxx Pƙed 22 dny

    About the apparent "disconnect" between CEO's opinion and developer's actions: That's delegation. You've got multiple levels to make decisions. The CEO shouldn't have to sign off everything. So they can disagree and this can be for the better or worse between situations. So I don't see any problem there. đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @beaujohnson4421
    @beaujohnson4421 Pƙed 23 dny

    I agree with the Reddit post. This is a PvE game about spilling oil or squashing bugs. We’re not doing raids, we’re not doing PvP, we’re simply diving into hell and killing stuff. What’s the endgame for a meta? There’s no leaderboard or anything to make you want to be the best. Use what you wanna use and have fun doing it. đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @MrVellj001
    @MrVellj001 Pƙed 22 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ I totally agree on the fun aspect of the game being paramount. I tend to ignore most of stats and balancing of the game. There are millions of enemies thrown at you especially in the higher difficulties levels so an extra bullet in the mage of a more powerful hit will not make the difference. From my end I play the game for the chaotic fun and excellent combat systems it has. As long as I have fun I will play as I did with hell divers 1.

  • @JasonLilli
    @JasonLilli Pƙed 23 dny +2

    Yeah with 9 hours to go and almost 100k votes, it will not be delayed. It’s 74/26 no delay

  • @Skilebougre
    @Skilebougre Pƙed 22 dny

    I feel like them asking if they should delay the warbound so close to the release is bad, they should have released it then asked if they should delay the next, even though, kudos to them to hesitate to engage more consumer's money while they are still discussing with sony about the whole account linking issue

  • @thepigeonknight9849
    @thepigeonknight9849 Pƙed 23 dny

    I'd honestly like to see more full sized 10 page warbonds. Like a long term goal of 2 new full sized warbonds that is bought with req slips or something other than super credits as its not a premium bond. However I also worry adding to many warbonds may make the game over whelming for new coming players. The amount of medals it takes to afford everything is a bit of a grind and the newer you are the more you have to look forwards to instead of the rest of us who's been keeping up with the updates. đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @Viscount
    @Viscount Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ I want my warbond tomorrow. I've been grinding for those super credits all month.

  • @onerimeuse
    @onerimeuse Pƙed 23 dny

    Holy shit. A content creator who actually links the posts he says he's going to link in the description. Sir, you are a raaaaare gem on this platform. *presses F*

  • @funnyface7829
    @funnyface7829 Pƙed 23 dny

    It’s a nice idea from the devs to let the players decide if the warbond is delayed or not đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @Nick-ou2uz
    @Nick-ou2uz Pƙed 23 dny

    I welcome all the of game patches either crashes updates of weapon balancing. Even its a good or bad updates because I will hear someone will say, "where are the weekly update yada yada yada" and so on so on if there are no updates. Anyway, thanks for the videos as always đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @eddiemitza2544
    @eddiemitza2544 Pƙed 22 dny

    When I hear the words "balance" and "helldivers" in the same sentence I get shivers down my spine. đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @Kamikaze7447
    @Kamikaze7447 Pƙed 23 dny

    Keep up the good workđŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @AnarchicPhil
    @AnarchicPhil Pƙed 23 dny

    Honestly, best way to lets mods work in game and universe, VR setting. Allows mods to be used and not affect the game at all and can make sense in universe. Just let people know what it does and you can't get stuff like credits, medals, etc so its just a for fun thing đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @Gazooka
    @Gazooka Pƙed 23 dny

    Wait I thought the vote won for release tomorrow not to delay it?

  • @dalef5944
    @dalef5944 Pƙed 22 dny

    been saving medals for the new warbond. hope to see it tomorrow! đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @HonorGoose
    @HonorGoose Pƙed 23 dny

    Super exited for the new warbond and glad they are dropping it tomorrow. For Super Earth! đŸ’›đŸ–€đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @Tax-Fraud
    @Tax-Fraud Pƙed 23 dny

    That deagle looking cool đŸ–€đŸ’›

  • @giannissyriotis5222
    @giannissyriotis5222 Pƙed 23 dny +2

    đŸ–€đŸ’› GO HELLDIVERS

  • @jimjankswankson
    @jimjankswankson Pƙed 22 dny

    The way they over inflated the enemy numbers for solo players is absolutely ridiculous.

  • @Tclans
    @Tclans Pƙed 22 dny +1

    💛 đŸ–€
    Cloud, go into options and set Sample visibility to always shown.

  • @ianmccleary4997
    @ianmccleary4997 Pƙed 23 dny

    The balances force me to change up my strats and adapt, I enjoy though I understand why the balances can ruin the fun. I hope they release the warbond, as I see no problem with them releasing it. keep up the great updates. This is the best community I have been a part of as well. Most do a great job in just playing the game and not taking thingd to seriously. đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @Takandrius
    @Takandrius Pƙed 23 dny

    I love the balancing, do things get nerfed too far? Maybe, BUT I love looking at the small buffs and wondering, can I finally use this weapon? The answer is usually YES. Weapons that tend to be broken by nerfs seem to get fixed in a decent amount of time so I’m ok with it. I am having more fun after this last major patch than I did before it.

  • @social3ngin33rin
    @social3ngin33rin Pƙed 23 dny

    Yeah, the stat keepers are insane!!!! But info admit they have really good data gathering and research skills lol

  • @chiefburbs
    @chiefburbs Pƙed 23 dny

    Honestly, It shows how much they care for the community for asking this question.đŸ–€đŸ’›

  • @cbanks5289
    @cbanks5289 Pƙed 22 dny

    Its my birthday today and i spent it fighting for super earth and democracy. My family comes second even on such an important day! đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @thebigmofo2822
    @thebigmofo2822 Pƙed 22 dny

    Tbh they should adresse the balance issue with this sentence: if every gun is good than all guns are fun

  • @Warblade1989
    @Warblade1989 Pƙed 22 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ Bring on the new warbond! I keep unlocking the items to quickly and need something to work towards. 😅

  • @purplecrisp
    @purplecrisp Pƙed 23 dny

    It really does feel like their primary form of balancing is to cut the legs off anything that stands too tall while doing nothing to improve the guns that no one's using. They also keep adding new weapons that will become the new meta and then get nerfed.

  • @dailypro4025
    @dailypro4025 Pƙed 22 dny

    Man I hope this game gets a lot better and the patches get betterđŸ–€đŸ’›

  • @SzilardAndras
    @SzilardAndras Pƙed 22 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ Helldivers may look different under the armor, but they are all alike, fueled by Democracy and Liberty, and each helldiver equals one army!

  • @llmuffinll
    @llmuffinll Pƙed 23 dny

    Stick to your word and schedules as best as possible. If the Warbond is ready, send it! đŸ–€đŸ’›

  • @Democratic.officer
    @Democratic.officer Pƙed 23 dny

    I will keep this community held together with my bare hands if i must

  • @doorman3189
    @doorman3189 Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ Love the democracy roleplay they have going on but if it ain't ready, don't release it. However I have done my super credit grinding for the 4th time and am ready to buy it!

  • @chuongnguyen2227
    @chuongnguyen2227 Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ§ĄđŸ–€Just wanted to drop in and say a huge thank you for all the incredible content you've been sharing. Your news updates always keep us in the loop, and your insights into future plans have us all eagerly anticipating what’s next. Your consistency in delivering quality videos does not go unnoticed-it’s what makes your channel a go-to for so many of us. Keep up the fantastic work; we appreciate it more than words can say!

  • @HotelTwoFive-Sev
    @HotelTwoFive-Sev Pƙed 23 dny

    Make all the primaries equally usable instead of two or three meta guns. On 7 to 9 u almost have to use the Breaker incendiary, Jar5, Scorcher, or Sickle, everything else is basically ineffective. Bigger mags for sure plus whatever else to open up more options. Slow down how fast the enemies can get off a reinforcement, and lengthen the cooldown for them a bit. The endless reinforce loop SUCKS! As soon as u hurl a strat into a base, or kill one enemy, they put up a flare or call a breach instead of callin for help cause they NEED it due to several casualties. And for Christ's sake fix the damn extract shitstorms, 90 second patrol spawns and the way the game works when u take out outposts. Especially for solo play so we can actually extract with rare/super samples more than once outta 10 or 15 missions(if at all)
    Extraction should be easier if you take the time to weaken the enemies' numbers and it needs to make logical sense. Take out outposts to slow their ability to reinforce and send out so many patrols, and weaken their numbers so its not 50 to 1 plus chargers, BT's, spitters, Hulks, tanks etc at an extract that you cant go further than 50 meters from (which needs to be removed or made drastically larger) Taking out their outposts/fabricators/bug holes etc is fun, but makes it harder and harder the more you do so its basically sneak around, try to get the POI's without a reinforcement being called, complete the main obj and use up all the clock so u can kite enemies until pelican one shows up...

  • @AMGG
    @AMGG Pƙed 22 dny

    We seriously need Performance and Optimization fixes on PC, no balance or content updates.

  • @longarrowthegreat5230
    @longarrowthegreat5230 Pƙed 23 dny

    THE TITLE IS NOT MISLEADING!!!
    The title CLEARLY states that the Warbond MAY, MAY, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY get delayed. and he is right. Depending on the vote and how the devs react, the Warbond may indeed get delayed.

  • @Luciusthestorms
    @Luciusthestorms Pƙed 23 dny

    Thor said it best you don't nerf stuff you take the stuff that's bad and buff it to match the fun stuff so people have to pick between the two.

  • @thisguyhere7320
    @thisguyhere7320 Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€The CEO will talk to the team about balancing? Well that's good, it certainly helped when he had a talk with the community managers and mods after he had to apologize for them being inflammatory after the railgun nerfs, and they never messed up agai-... oh... right... hmmm...đŸ–€đŸ’›

  • @TripleDipped2
    @TripleDipped2 Pƙed 22 dny

    I Have over 100 hours on the Eruptor. Really sucks that the dev working on it is so adamant about it being solid. It really isn't now, it cant even deal with chaff. đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @MadsBMyhre
    @MadsBMyhre Pƙed 22 dny

    Just remember in this discussion, that people working at Arrowhead are a humanbeing đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @julesverne2509
    @julesverne2509 Pƙed 23 dny

    I don't see all the point in the all the balancing. A couple times it made sense. It does not make sense to do it every week thereafter.

  • @del343434
    @del343434 Pƙed 22 dny

    The whole meta chasing aspect is what finally drove me from Destiny 2 after 10 years.
    Helldivers 2 is the most fun I've had in an online game since my first raid in Destiny 1. Now the sweats and meta elves are gonna run this community straight into the same cycle.
    I just want to dive, spread democracy, and laugh with my fellow Helldivers.

  • @zeroxexe111
    @zeroxexe111 Pƙed 23 dny

    They are "learning the meta" people stuff may be rocky time to time during updates....kinda like other live-service games.

  • @Darth_Benga
    @Darth_Benga Pƙed 22 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ FTW
    props to Cloud for highlighting and responding to his imposter. You are Legend, Sir

  • @whiskeytangofoxtrotzuluech1913

    Grinded 1k super credits for a warbond and was waiting for the release of polar patriots to watch reviews of all warbonds to get the right one. đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @awhisperofroses
    @awhisperofroses Pƙed 23 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€I do want the warbond, but I wouldn't mind if its delayed, especially if it allows them to focus on a few bug and balance fixes. I honestly don't mind balances, because I hate metas and like lateral balancing (making things viable enough to be interchangeable and still do well), but it does feel like they are nerfing more than actual balancing--and I am getting frustrated with the CM's dismissals of our complaints about them (for instance: they seem to have changed their stance now, but the initial dismissal of us telling them that the loss of the Eruptor, despite the 40 damage buff, was frustrating). đŸ–€đŸ’›

  • @CatFM1015
    @CatFM1015 Pƙed 22 dny

    While new items are fun to chase, having the game well balanced and having the best "feel" in gameplay is what truly keeps me dropping in. đŸ€žHowever, I still dream of a melee weapon class. Exo stomps are so much fun! đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @HrSpaekHugger
    @HrSpaekHugger Pƙed 23 dny +4

    luckey for me i have friends that just have funn with the game, we take the weapons we like and never min max eney thing. ofcaus there are prefered weapons but still we manage to take a divers asortment of arms with us.đŸ’›đŸ–€

  • @KayokoOyochi
    @KayokoOyochi Pƙed 22 dny

    đŸ’›đŸ–€ I can’t wait to have fun playing hell divers 2 it looks really fun