Brandon Sanderson Forced Audible To Change!! 🎧
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- The mad lad Brandon Sanderson got Audible to change!
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Sanderson’s Blog Post: brandonsanderson.com/regarding-audible/
This is a great STEP! Still a much larger fight needs to happen but it’s important to celebrate victories when you can. :) Here is the link to his blog post: www.brandonsanderson.com/regarding-audible/
Hey Daniel, that's a great cardigan!
Keep us updated on whether you and your colleagues start seeing real benefits from this please. Help us hold their feet to the fire!
This is a con. Indie Publishers were getting 65% per credit because Audible let us set our own prices, and our per credit profits were based on that price. However, once Brandon announced this deal, they slashed ALL base prices for indie publishers site-wide and now we're making less than 40%. Audible found a way to turn bad press into good press while screwing indie publishers even harder than before. ACX will be a better deal than being under an approved publisher, but everything will be worse than it was.
Is that true? @@virgilknightley2668
Can anyone confirm this?
Brandon: “Honor is dead, but I’ll see what I can do”
YAS
I giggled. Thanks for that
You nailed it!!!
Honor is not dead, he lives on in the hearts of men. ❤
Give this man a boon!!!!
As an audiobook guy i really appreciate you narrating the statements to me so i don't have to read them myself.
Daaaamn 😂
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I really do appreciate someone using their position to help others. Could we please normalize that.
Fortunately it is and has been normal for thousands of years
Nobody:
Millennial/gen-z at an iHop: “Can we please normalize ordering pancakes?!”
@@jacobstamm Then you are lucky to live in a society where people in their position doing good things is normal. Where I came from, it's just corruption and bureaucracy
No, this is capitalism and those in power will almost always use their power to accumulate wealth and nothing else!
@@yougurttrashcan my dude, you speak as if you don't know what indoor plumbing is or how it got into your house/apartment
Aw man, as one of Sanderson's employees (who had no hand in this, aside from waving hello to the Audible folks when they toured the office), it warms my heart to see so many people might be benefitting from his actions. At Dragonsteel, I see him and Emily upholding the principals of empathy and integrity on a daily basis, so this move does not surprise me, but just DANG... we need more like him! He really is a quality human who genuinely cares about making a positive difference.
What do you do at dragonsteel? It seems a lot of fun!
We really do. Thank you to everyone at Dragonsteel for their efforts and support of authors.
@@daisydaswani689 ah sorry I missed this notification! I’m on the in-house art team working with Isaac Stewart (another very high quality human).
"Power does not make one capable of rule... it makes one capable of service." -Teft
Thanks, Brandon.
“The Shiftings Of The Noodle”
"Ratatouille : The Sequel"
The words have been spoken, the noodles have been shifted.
Spoken like a true Pastafarian
I opened the comments just to see if anyone mentioned this😂
It’s like shifting the needle…. but dirtier.
I'm surprised with all these secret projects, someone hasn't made an edit of the "secret tunnel" ATLA song with Sanderson saying "project" edited over every "tunnel".
I’m counting on you to make you vision a reality
Secret project through the cosmere. Secret secret secret secret project.
Be the change you want in the world
This is outstanding and I never knew I needed it, but now I do. 😂❤
I haven't seen a video, but I have seen a screenshot of that XD
The man not only raised the bar, but has met it and soared even higher 🙌🏼
The man is the bar.
That sounds exactly like raising the bar
It used to be a high jump bar. Now it's a pole vault bar.
Using your large platform as leverage to make Amazon be fairer to writers is incredibly based.
Sanderson keeps raising the bar in so many ways in the writing space. The man consistenty over-delivers for his fans, and is a willing champion for smaller authors. Other big name writers need to swallow some pride and follow this mans example
Agreed
He is a writing monster. The only person I will believe if there was conspiracy he got a brain chip or clonned by aliens
He also makes accesible tons of material to help new authors, lile giving out a published book (Warbreaker) for free with chapter annotations with his thought process or uploading his lectures on YT.
@@Pvkasz wait, he is giving Warbreaker away for free with annotations? How would one get that?
@@killerfudgetasticThere's a free pdf you can download on his website. If you google "warbreaker epub" you can also find a fan-made free epub file for your favorite ebook app.
Daniel, insofar as you are an Audible author, Brandon has single-handedly negotiated you a raise. For everyone. This is huge.
The good thing about Sanderson is that he’s not hostile. He disagrees but he doesn’t insult or be mean about it. We’re lucky to have him at the negotiation table. If we have more diplomatic people like him, the world would be a better place.
Brandon is just crazy dude. His work ethic and his good attitude trumps all.
Which is why it brings me joy to support him because I know the future he will create will be awesome!
And he's so gracious and respectful to people who he disagrees with. I really respect the way he advocates for change without demonising other people. Now I think about it, that's a big theme in his writing too!
Really makes you wonder how better things could be if people with influence took a stand in their own respective fields.
I’d like to see Stephen King do something similar. He could be so influential for budding authors.
Have you heard about John Green's war on Tuberculosis?
Yeah but these things are never as simple as soundbytes make them out to be. I'm sure audible could make some change but there are probably business reasons that you need both sides to have a dialogue about such as costs/marketing, internet usage fees, or w/e are specific to this industry. People were up in arms about oil & finance 10 years ago and were listening to those who had absolutely no idea what they were talking about. They just took it as gospel like some new religious zealot.
Honestly I'm surprised Sanderson was able to make any movement at all. I doubt that even Taylor Swift could do anything like this to Spotify, then again the music industry is beyond titanic and audiobooks is smaller and less entrenched by comparison.
@@Ouvii Same. When he dropped the essay last year (was it only last year?), I took note of it and moved on because I figured nothing would come of it. I'm genuinely shocked that even an announcement of changes has happened.
I have so many memes for this
Sanderson on his Spiderman arc
Audible: we'll pay you more if you don't press this, these minor authors are expendable
Sanderson: not to me
Brando Sando does anything at this point...
Me: [insert Stilgar "Lisan al-Gaib" meme] 🤣
“As it was written”
I;ve never read a Sanderson book, but I'm a fan of how he is a force for good.
I'm sure many folk around here will highly recommend him, myself included. :B
Obligatory Sanderson rec😂 if you ever wanna try just one, then go for The Emperor's Soul novella.
The most important step is not the first step, but the next. Always the next.
It is physically impossible for me to be tired of hearing about sanderson and his work, he is a goat human.
Brandon: "Don't stop me now... Don't stop me now, 'cause I'm havin' a good time, I don't wanna stop at aaaaaall!"
If there's something weird
And it don't look good
Who you gonna call?
Brando Sando!
Absolutely just got the picture in my head of Brandon beating an audible logo with a pool cue. Thanks for that!
(Don't stop me now)
If you wanna have a good time, just give me a call
Everyone else: "Why do you write like you're running out of time? How do you write like you're running out of time?"
Sanderson walks the walk and talks the talk. He’s such an incredible person and writer and I feel so blessed to be alive during his lifetime.
“Shifting of the noodle” is now a phrase in my lexicon. Thanks.
Little victories are nice.
Thanks for highlighting such an incredible act by Sanderson. He clearly doesn't need the money. He remembers what it was like to be a struggling author, and he's doing it for them. Bravo!
Why isn't there an authors union like the hollywood writers guild. This would greatly increase their chances of getting their demands seen
Brandon and Dan have discussed this on their podcast, but basically that union wouldn't have any real power. Most authors sell a book every few years, do there's no threat of a strike. Also, the competition to get published means that even of 80% of all authors agreed to strike there would still be a flood of others lining up.
@davidsabotta6528 Reasons there is not one with musicians not all of them release music at the same time. Some are indy some are not it's all over the map.
The issue is the compines at the top who have to much power.
Exmaple for music you have three major labels that hold way more power then they should.
Also, authors are spread out all over the place so it's way harder to build a collective movement. They talked about it as an example about some sort of medical insurance, you wouldn't be able to get good deals on companies if you don't do it wholesale.
Unions end up causing more problems than they fix. Especially once they reach a certain size. The power the Gain destroys them.
seeing pretty much anyone can become a novelist, it would be incredibly difficult to represent them. like do you do it by genre? or what about the one indy writers who only does release one book? how does that affect the full time novelist?
"...but we've had a champion step in..." - Daniel Greene 13:49
"Honor is dead, but I'll see what I can do..." - Brandon Sanderson
Brandon Sanderson is the nicest guy. I don't know him personally, but we have a close writing community here so I've had the opportunity to meet with quite a few pretty famous authors and he's been by far one of the most gracious, genuine, and just humble I've met the few times we've been at events and I've gotten to speak to him.
Here because of the shout out in the weekly update by Brandon. Didn't know the channel beforehand. This is essentially my audiobook version of Brandon's blog post and I love you for it. Reading books or blog posts just has me lose track so fast that audiobooks are a must have for me.
Regarding the audible debate, I'm very much stuck to it for my audiobooks but that's very much bordering on Stockholm syndrome. I want my books, and they're on audible, and the audible subscription is the cheapest way to consistently get them. Furthermore, the audible mobile and apple carplay apps are simply the best of the ones I've tried.
When "that article" hit piece came out about Sanderson, I remember feeling like its author was very much like the journalist in A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, trying to manufacture controversy about a genuinely good person. This news reaffirms my belief that Sanderson is, indeed, a modern Mr. Rogers, just trying to do good for the world. Good on Sanderson.
When I read it, after reading other people's posts about meeting or working with him, I marked it as trash.
I watched his lectures, that gave me the idea that he is a good guy.
Hold up, what article? Who is trying to destroy their own career?
@@Spiney09 there was a Wired article that attempted to paint Sanderson in a negative light. It seems like low quality rage bait and isn't worth reading, nor giving Wired the click.
@@briandawley7808 good to know. I know some people take issue with his faith, and certain financial aspects involved in that. I personally think that even if you take that as a negative, his positive influence far outweighs those negatives, if you consider them negatives at all. Was that what the article covered or was it other stuff?
@Spiney09 A bit. It did attack his faith and said that his faith teaches that its practitioners will one day become gods, so he's just living that out as the God of fantasy, and therefore the God of his readers.
The article author accused him of being a bad writer, and mocked him to his family and to his fans at his convention.
Actually, Daniel Greene did a great video on it if you're interested in the article contents without giving a click.
Brando is the man!
On another note; when Apple makes a change to it's phones it's because Samsung made that change two years prior.
Big facts 😂😂😂
Not even Samsung, just Android as a whole. The difference is that while Google brings innovating features to their phones quickly, then improve them with their users as beta testers, Apple just waits until Google learns what works then releases a cleaner Day-1 product. And if they aren't confident in releasing a Day-1 product that meets their standards, they just won't release it.
That's just not true. Sometimes it's because someone else invented a new technology, or the EU forces them to adopt a USB technology that Apple was part of developing since they're on the USB implements forum. It's just like the coal industry having to adopt not forcing children into the mines, and having to use Davey lamps. Except they're more evil because they were all born post WW2 and still behave like they're Victorian. Except not as nice or forwarding thinking.
@@godminnette2 that's far too generous to Apple. They don't have standards. If they did, you would have a justification for the Apple Magic Mouse but you obviously don't since that's impossible. But they do a good job of making their cultists believe they only put out good products since they immediately forget the really bad ideas, even if they continue to sell them/give them away with their sub-standard computers.
Audible prices will go up now.
This is what makes Sanderson such a great person in addition to a great author. He is a big presence and he has used his presence for the benefit of others. Where was Steven King, GRRM, and other big name authors in all of this? They have been silent for years and just reaped their personal rewards. Sanderson put his earning on the line to help others who could not pushed for this change.
Sanderson took a stand he didn't have to - this is laudatory. Questions are popping up in my mind about other best-selling authors across the genres. It seems likely to me that they didn't take the basic deal, but only fought for a bigger cut for themselves. I don't say this to cast shade on them, (although it really, really does) but rather to highlight that what Sanderson did was exceptional by the standards of the people who didn't. Sadly, that seems to be most best-sellers.
Job's not done yet, so there's still time for others to join the fight. I'll wait...
Your videos always bring me joy, Daniel. This one even more so. Thanks.
Look up most of the biggest authors, few of them are hybrid like Sanderson. As in, they are entirely trad published. He is hybrid because he's got indie property out there and trad publishing deals. After his Kickstarter, he demonstrated another level so high that Stephen King testified before Congress that he was destwoying the twad pub industwy! And yes the childish voice is deliberate because King is a Quisling who microwaves salmon. I'm not even a fan of salmon and I think that's the most disgusting thing he's ever written. Some of those other authors are also quite nice, and do charitable things of various kinds, and do what they can but it doesn't mean they're in the same position as Sanderson to apply pressure.
TLDR; Sanderson has more power over his IP than most of the top ten authors (by income) do and thus can withhold books and make a news story about it.
@@jonevansauthor Good call. I hadn't considered the issue from that perspective.
Most other best selling authors sell pornoliterature. You can't compare that business with the business Sanderson is in.
Proud to be this guy's fan. Long live Brandosando.
What always bugs me out when thinking of Amazon's control of the book market is that, as someone from a third world country, I'd probably never have access to so many books I have if not for them. It'd be nice to have competitive companies who treat authors decently, but most of the smaller companies can't really afford to sell books in my currency, and if they do either their price point is astronomical or they only have a very small selection of books.
Kobo has more market penetration in more countries than Amazon but it's hard to make a living without being exclusive to Amazon. I set book prices according to local markets but a lot of authors, even indies, set the US price, and then use automatic pricing for their other markets. Meaning it'd be too high in Mexico, India and Brazil among others. Still, there's only so low I can set the prices and it's hard to know (ok, impossible practically speaking) if much of the market can afford it. Paperbacks are insanely cheap in India compared to the rest of the world, so ebooks haven't taken off as much as you'd expect (I'm not sure the paperbacks aren't cheaper than the minimum price I can set on Amazon for the ebook). But yeah, we want lower prices that make more sense in the individual country, and there's lots of factors to that, including charges from payment providers like Visa.
More reasons, Brandon Sanderson is one of the greatest authors alive.
I thought you were saying "we will, we will, we will" at the beginning and was patiently waiting for the "rock you!"🥺😆
same
Wait, wasn't he? (A confused non native speaker here)
@@Swiergotka78 was confused for a second too. I'm pretty sure he's making siren noises)
I suspected something had changed behind the curtain when I noticed that the new secret project would include an audible redimable code.
I'm ashamed that I didn't look into it myself.
Thank you for bringing us the news.
MOVE THE NOODLE!! 🍜🍝
As someone who's trying to become an author myself, Props to Brando for going to bat for authors at large *once again*. Gives me a little hope that I really needed.
I love when super successful individuals in an industry see the universal benefits in banding together with the many little-known or lesser successful members of their groups to positively effect such changes. Wonderful news for all of us. Thanks, Sanderson! Thanks to everyone who has been working together to bring these changes to reality.
Sanderson the legend, Kaladin bridge 4 vibes
He probably would have had an easier time negotiating a killer deal for himself but he chose to do something for everybody and kudos to him for that
Sanderson’s team linked this video in their newsletter. I always get a kick out of seeing people I follow cite each other, citing each other.
Citation-ception
Sanderson is a god damn legend. Imagine if the biggest artists in the world took a stand with Spotify.
genuinely happy about this
Sanderson has done so much for the writing community its absolutely nuts. From his lectures that are completely free, to his openness with his readers and now this. Just a great guy
People will probably fault Sanderson for going to audible when they're still far from perfect, but refusing to negotiate in these circumstances can lead to companies thinking it was pointless to concede at all, and either roll back the changes or inspire other industries to NOT capitulate when similar demands are made of them.
I'm glad that Brandon moved the projects to audible, and I am glad that Daniel kept his off of it.
I agree. Incremental change is still change.
A rising tide lifts all boats, but Sando is single handedly raising the tide for everyone.
Yes. This, 100%.
I feel so lucky as an aspiring author to have someone with such success & influence fighting for the little guy at his own expense.
I'm not even an author but somehow this news has actually made me cry.
Sanderson: screw it, I’ll throw it at the wall and if it sticks we’ll release it.
Sanderson’s wall: is velcro.
Jokes aside, this is amazing. I love to see someone with a big name like Sanderson using their resources to make lasting changes like this. This will impact more people for a longer period of time than a simple donation to some fund somewhere, and the world needs more of that.
Brandon Sanderson is such and amazing person, I'm glad he's used his platform to enact this sort of change.
Sanderson is the absolute man. How could you not love the guy
Thank you, Sanderson, for using your loud voice to speak up for us that doesn't have one! This sounds like a great improvement, and I hope I can one day enjoy the change (no one really buys my audiobook, OR Audible hasn't told me).
The secret project books are available as audio books though many public librarys.
I'm a big Sanderson fan, but I'm always cautious about popular public figures can get put on a pedestal based on their PR team. But Brandon has proven multiple times that it's not just PR, it's not just "ooh look at me", and he really is passionate about this, and cares for the industry.
I'm not an author and I don't personally know any authors who will be affected by this. However, I think everyone can agree that it's an excellent change for the industry.
Huge respect to Brandon Sanderson for not just thinking of himself. This is fantastic news.
I do love it when someone with some power uses it to encourage positive change for everyone. That level of decency should be the norm and it’s a tragedy that it isn’t. It’s trite but true that a rising tide floats all boats. Treating authors fairly should genuinely help sales, loyalty and attracting more authors.
Now we jut need to get the voice talent royalties as well.
He is essentially just starting an Author's Union which is wild
Amazing from Sanderson, while their business practises since gaining market dominance have often been shady I still agree with Sanderson they Audible are a net positive. As someone who's so dyslexic that reading novels is such a slog I don't enjoy it. I wouldn't get to enjoy books without audiobooks and I'm old enough to remember the market before Audible and it was £40+ a book for CDs so I'd get one or two books a year.
The fact that Sanderson carries a similar weight on the book space as a whole ass union does in other industries is bonkers. If this is how much Sanderson can do, imagine how much a unionized/guild type system for authors/novelists would be able to do.
I'm not a fan of his books but I'm a big fan of his battle with Audible, and I won't tire of hearing about that.
Did I read this blog yesterday? Yes.
Did I watch a gremlin read the entire thing to me anyhow?
Yes.
As an audiobook narrator this is just so exciting to me!! 🎉
I really hope this means the Secret Projects will have Graphic Audio adaptations too
Not the hero we deserve, but the one we need. And I don't even like Sanderson as an author. But as a person? Love him
He spoke the words.
Thanks for shifting the noodle Brando!
In a world where everything seems to be trending worse its nice to see something going in the other direction.
Sanderson IS the writers union.
Guys, there are huge authors in this game and NONE of them have done SHIT to change the game for eveyone but themselves. Much respect for Sando!
it is really insane to see the degree that Sanderson has exploited his market power to help what could, in the pure capitalist sense, be his "competitors". Incremental change is still change. And I really, truly, cannot recall anyone single person having this kind of impact on a single industry. Even if his books aren't your cup of tea, you can't argue that he is using his position for the good of all aspiring authors
Wealth and power leveraged in favour of the little guy. You love to see it
We're taking a step forward, now just keep momentum. Don't slow down, don't break stride.
Thanks Brandon! This is amazing news for reader fans and independent authors! I can't wait to read what comes out next! We love to see positive change and growth!❤
It's so awesome to have someone who has a little pull legitimately care. I love this man.
I read(listen) to most of my books on audible. And I wasn’t aware that authors got so little of the revenue from audible. Gotta love Brandon Sanderson though. He genuinely cares about his readers and fellow authors more than profit or fame and that’s awesome to see
My noodle shifted upon hearing this news.
I think finding the noodle in the haystack would be harder
This is part of why I’ll always support this man, incredible author and human.
I dont know what, or how much, I was expecting, but... *whoa* . I mean, my god, this is a serious noodle shift! I had the same reaction as Daniel when hearing the statement - more money, yay; more *transparency* and *accountability* ?? Wow! Also, Daniel - you passed the thanks on to us for helping out, but without someone to tell us what's going on, bring these things into the light and give us the information, we have no idea how we can help, we don't know *where* to *apply* that pressure. So thank YOU for declaring war, and keeping the Fantasy News flow going!! ❤❤❤👏👏👏
is that.....the wheel of time MONSTROSITY that nerdforge made????
Bravo Sando! Making a giant company like this and making them move an inch is a great accomplishment! 👏👏❤️❤️
I'd love for these kinds of movement in the academic book industry. Author's from what I here have to pay for their book to get published, they get a smaller cut, and students have to pay a high premium for the books. And they try to say it's because they sell less volume, but most of the people they're selling to are students, teachers, and independant academic. I'd bet they'd get a higher volume of sales if their books were just affordable.
As a non native speaker I fully accepted twist of a noodle as a new idiom I didnt know until you corrected yourself 😂😂😂
I am actually not subscribed to Sanderson even though I am to you, and I really appreciate learning about this! This is awesome
Brando out there living like a Windrunner, protecting those who cannot protect themselves.
I'm still annoyed that credits expire. That's literally what I personally pay monthly for.
This makes me love Sanderson even more! And yet another secret project on the way? Wow! Go Sanderson and Team!
He is a storming hero, he is!
I would have loved it if this was sponsored by Audible.
The Bondsmith delivers on his oaths.
(Brandon)-[Puts SP5 stack on table and walks away]
(Me)-{Quote} "He can't keep getting away with this..."
That is great news! Thanks for sharing!
It’s honestly just nice.. that there is a good guy out there fighting the good fight. It’s been awhile ❤❤
Amazing work, Mr. Sanderson!
Thank you for sharing what many may have missed since it was on his blog.
Thanks for the update Daniel.
Yay Fringe video!!! I've been waiting and am looking forward to it!
Big quality bump since the last video I've watched, well done goblin!
I'll believe it when it's out. While I do believe there are many people who still love books there, I trust Amazon as much as any megacorporation or government in that I don't at all.
Wait what? Audible subscriptions haven't gone up elsewhere? The price in Aus nearly tripled over the last 2-3 years