So the Mk11 stock is compliant with the ORR instruction Why couldn't West Coast Railways sent the rake up at the beginning of the season to avoid cancelations
I don't suppose I am unusual in that I would not want to pay extra to travel in those mark 2 vehicles with small fixed windows. Might as well go on a regular service train in a class 156 DMU.
So the 47 isn't ETS fitted (and the Black 5 certainly isn't 🙃), and there doesnt seem to be a generator coach, so will it be a rather cold ride without AC? 🤔
SAFETY ON THE JACOBITE Adherence to so-called Safety Regulations is a bogus argument. The Jacobite has been running for years with Stewards in each coach to oversee operations. It has done so safely......and nobody has fallen out of the train. Presumably this is because nobody wishes to fall out of the train. Mk1's have the standard fitted locks to each door..........something coaches have always had anyway. Frankly put, the whole nonsense about locking doors stems from the few incidents that took place involving Mk2's.......often around the 'Nuneaton Triangle' in the past....where flexing of coach ends in some of the Mk2's, mainly on poor track, caused a few issues with doors coming open. There were a number of instances where drunks were responsible for doors opening...... When you Introduce the overkill of John Prescott whilst he was in office you had a recipe for disasterous interference. The doors on Mk1's are incapable of opening without a concerted effort to open them. Coach Door Catches have always had a 'two-position' safety mechanism that prevents them flying open.........but you would be hard put to see this reported anywhere. I have travelled thousands upon thousands of miles on the railways of the UK during my lifetime......both against coach dorrs and leaning from coach door windows. Never have I had, or seen, a door come open under such circumstances. The ORR know this, but overkill is the order of the day........and they have convinced weak-kneed and pusilanimous politicians, that overkill and control is required. Like the fools from the HSE, whose oversight of railway safety after privatisation was a catastrophe, we are surrounded by idiots who see their task as being that of preventing us from ourselves. James Hennighan Yorkshire, England
Really? It's been standard on slam door stock (apart from Southern EMUs, which had an exemption through grandfather rights because they were going to be phased out before long) since the 1990s. They really have had literally years to get used to it.
@@AndreiTupolev The secondary locks were fitted because the wrap round doors on later Mark 2 stock really were unsafe. It would not be hard to develop an inexpensive central lock for Mark 1 doors but this was never done. As a result the Mark 1 EMU fleet was withdrawn with hundreds of vehicles only half way through their working life. The really dangerous stock is the 800 series due to the large step distance and badly positioned grab rails but RSSB cannot provide information. Alighting from this stock at some stations is perilous - the platform is a long way down and there is nothing to hold on to
Went on this for my 70th birthday brilliant
Really great steam train video.
Joe from Canada
So the Mk11 stock is compliant with the ORR instruction
Why couldn't West Coast Railways sent the rake up at the beginning of the season to avoid cancelations
I don't suppose I am unusual in that I would not want to pay extra to travel in those mark 2 vehicles with small fixed windows. Might as well go on a regular service train in a class 156 DMU.
So the 47 isn't ETS fitted (and the Black 5 certainly isn't 🙃), and there doesnt seem to be a generator coach, so will it be a rather cold ride without AC? 🤔
A very nice video andrew thanks 😊
Glad you enjoyed it
I love steam trains myself and I've got an collection of model trains and how are you?.
Well done andrew well done with the camera work as well keep it up bye for now Philip
SAFETY ON THE JACOBITE
Adherence to so-called Safety Regulations is a bogus argument.
The Jacobite has been running for years with Stewards in each coach to oversee operations.
It has done so safely......and nobody has fallen out of the train.
Presumably this is because nobody wishes to fall out of the train.
Mk1's have the standard fitted locks to each door..........something coaches have always had anyway.
Frankly put, the whole nonsense about locking doors stems from the few incidents that took place involving Mk2's.......often around the 'Nuneaton Triangle' in the past....where flexing of coach ends in some of the Mk2's, mainly on poor track, caused a few issues with doors coming open.
There were a number of instances where drunks were responsible for doors opening......
When you Introduce the overkill of John Prescott whilst he was in office you had a recipe for disasterous interference.
The doors on Mk1's are incapable of opening without a concerted effort to open them. Coach Door Catches have always had a 'two-position' safety mechanism that prevents them flying open.........but you would be hard put to see this reported anywhere.
I have travelled thousands upon thousands of miles on the railways of the UK during my lifetime......both against coach dorrs and leaning from coach door windows. Never have I had, or seen, a door come open under such circumstances.
The ORR know this, but overkill is the order of the day........and they have convinced weak-kneed and pusilanimous politicians, that overkill and control is required.
Like the fools from the HSE, whose oversight of railway safety after privatisation was a catastrophe, we are surrounded by idiots who see their task as being that of preventing us from ourselves.
James Hennighan
Yorkshire, England
Really? It's been standard on slam door stock (apart from Southern EMUs, which had an exemption through grandfather rights because they were going to be phased out before long) since the 1990s. They really have had literally years to get used to it.
@@AndreiTupolev
The secondary locks were fitted because the wrap round doors on later Mark 2 stock really were unsafe.
It would not be hard to develop an inexpensive central lock for Mark 1 doors but this was never done. As a result the Mark 1 EMU fleet was withdrawn with hundreds of vehicles only half way through their working life.
The really dangerous stock is the 800 series due to the large step distance and badly positioned grab rails but RSSB cannot provide information. Alighting from this stock at some stations is perilous - the platform is a long way down and there is nothing to hold on to
Great video
Thanks!!!
@andrewcraig5490 your welcome it shame what us going with the jacobite express
Good video 👍
Thank you!
Not worth travelling in a late mark 2 with their pokey little fixed windows. Horrid trains except that Mark 3 and newer stock is even worse
Voted with my wallet. No longer bother with Railtours, Diesel or Steam. Got fed up with safety police, and now no opening windows, so whats the point.
Sad but true