kpop opinions because kpop stans are always so dramatic
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that last opinion was so true "its not global, yall didn't leave asia" HAD ME ROLLINGGG
I agree, Like I'm like "Is nexz a jpop or global group đ€ " because jyl is promoting them as global but most of the members are japanese. Also everyones trying to debut a global group nowadays, like first is was XG which are literally just signing in English- That's once again not global, just a Western language on a more Kpop type of song. I hate seeing all these global groups, like ma'am it's kpop not global pop đ
Thank you for the plave mention im sick and tired of them being called ai đđ
The music is so good too
frr the hate to illit is so forced , they dont deserve it đ
Name or group at the end?
yeah but i think they do need to improve their vocals A LOT. like kpop used to debut trained individuals, and i blame hybe for not giving them a longer training period, they donât deserve the cruelty.
Exactly
â@@stcrryskyyeah but at the same time, ik damn well there was a lot of disgusting shit going on in the angencies to make them that talented. Like yeah do idols nowadays need more practice? Absolutely. But we need to stop comparing them to earlier generations because there wasn't much laws, and yknow damn well that companies abused that đ like theres probably so much shit that went on under the surface. Obviously not all companies are bad, but when it's the 1900s when not a lot of laws were in place? Yeah, no.
@youknowwhatelseisbig484 that is true, what came into mind was momo and the ice cubes. that was so incredibly cruel i could barely believe it. ig the concept of practicing a proper amount without affecting your health is a difficult, utopian and foreign concept to the entertainment companies. illit could have been so much better if the competition wasn't rigged and the practicing conditions were better
i agree so much about the illit encore stage, sure they didn't sound fantastic but they definitely weren't that bad. i'd say only one of them was really struggling vocally and i just hope she can improve in the future. almost all of them sounded fine, a little shaky but fine. when i watched it i expected it to be awful considering what people were saying but it turns out people were just being nasty to be nasty i guess. i still think hybe needs to invest in more vocal lessons bc they are leaving their artists high and dry here but people overreact so much, i think they just want to be bullies cuz it's fun to them
And people posting clips that were "just listen to this đ€ź" and I'm like... what am I listening to??? Like it wasn't bad, especially compared to other encore stages
I donât really care that K-pop has become âblandâ because the artists that I listen to havenât and the bland artists are usually the new ones soâŠ
'can wholeheartedly say that was the best day of my life'
THAT. That there is the reason why people drop mad money on kpop concert tickets. The rush of endorphins, pure joy and connection in that moment makes it worthwhile as they become memories of a lifetime. Even I'm surprised by just how much money I've dropped for concerts, but I don't regret any of it because my money is always getting drained because of life expenses regardless. I don't drop money on photocards etc because I'm not really a collector of material things- but memories? HELL YE.
i was in the back tho, like close to the last seat and still had a blast. that was the point i was tryna make đ u donât need to go broke to have a good time
@@yoshified_ oh ye definitely..I think people get greedyđ. Parasocial connection defs has a role to play in that.
â@@yoshified_Honestly I don't even see the appeal in front row seats. Like bitches gonna be freaking their necks trying to get a good view. đ I'd say father back first floor/second floor is good, as they're only $100 (estimate), and you can get a good view without breaking your necks. Honestly if you have the money to spare, I say fuck it, why not?
I can't relate đ I've gone to a lot of concerts (Skz, twice, dreamcatcher, ive, g-idle w/ other artists (hoping to see them live in their new tour) blackopink) and I'm PRAYING to god that Everglow and Alexa go on tour again, because I missed both their tours and they're some of my favorite artists (everglow got me into kpop in the first place), but I also have a lot of albums as well. I have dreamcatchers most recent, born pink, square up, heat (g-idle), all my girls (everglow) antifragile and i never die. But i have to like all the songs or 90% of them to spend money on an album, bc thats the whole point. And I'm hoping I can get the Ive switch album, and reminisce by everglow đ€
I love tear drop by sf9 in the background for the video đ€©đ€žđŒââïžThey are SOO underrated.
What did you think of ATEEZ's Coachella performance? They're probably that one group who keeps it exciting for me right now as so much of their music is so sonically interesting to listen to. I hope they tap more into synth wave in their new album because they do it so well! (eg cyberpunk, this world, take me home and silver light).
i watched both performances live on the livestreams, i was singing so loud, my neighbors filed a noise complaint đ
@@yoshified_ đđđ you broke your neighbors walls! IT WAS SO GOOD.
I was doing laps around my room when they were preforming
I'm also kind of getting bored with kpop and I have the same reason - copy and paste music!
I still go back to listen to blackpink and sometimes twice old songs cause I miss that sound in kpop
I'm getting bored of music in general, I listen to music so much I've drained my playlists. Even the one that's 15 flipping hours. Accendio will always be my love though. I wanna find new music, even new groups to stan in kpop because I'm so bored, idk where to start though!!!
5:19 probably one of the reasons i don't fw kpop anymore as much as the past years đ
4:00 real because i saw some people dragging illit and le sserafim saying that they should take notes or something like...taking notes for what, being able to lipsync???
And I know that Babymonster can sing don't get me wrong but dragging the other groups is just disgusting behaviour.
PLEASE YOU ARE SO TRUE FOR UNTOUCHABLE !! I LOVE THIS SONG FOR THE SAKE OF MY LIFE
LISTEN TO FUJII KAZE⊠he makes some of the best j-pop ever i donât think he has made a bad song yet
i totally agree with you on finding new music! most of my friends only like kpop so i only ever talk about kpop, but what they donât know is iâm actually interested in hundreds of other genres as wellđ
Thank you for speaking about diversity! I also listenining to less kpop now and i tend to lean into listening more jpop. So i can feel you :)
I've been diversifying my playlist lately too.
I'd recommend checking out One OK Rock! They have fantastic music! Clock Strikes, The Beginning, Mighty Long Fall, We Are, Let Me Let You Go, and C.h.a.o.s.m.y.t.h are some of my favourites.
If you like kpop bands like CN Blue, I'd also suggest Flumpool.
blackswan i love you you will always be the best global group(in terms of actual heritage)
ate with every single opinion. hope youâre doing well toria𫶠dress to impress is so addictive đ
I'm so with you on the seeking out other music thing. And we both got into it in 2017! Makes sense. Literally until last year all I needed was my kpop playlist but now I need lots of other things to keep me entertained and until this year I'd never checked out a western artists' whole discography apart from Taylor and Melanie but now I am since kpop hasn't been sustaining me nearly as much
Edit: I recommend 5sos they have an amazing discography!
6:26 i'm ngl i feel this way about a lot of le sserafim choreos,,,, they're not *bad* at all, and the girls are obv great dancers but idk i just frequently feel like theres somethingg missing from them
I recommend Atarashi Gakko if you haven't listened to them already, I recently started listened to them and I love their vibe and songs!
You're speaking facts in this video, thank for standing up for lesserafim and illit girlies âđ»
I was literally thinking yesterday that I wanted another yoshified kpop opinions video, I check today and here one is.
I myself have been searching for more diversity in kpop, then one day I found TAN and omg, I love every single song of theirs!! Itâs different for example LOUDER by TAN is something I didnât like at first, but now I am obsessedđđ I really recommend themđđ
OMG FELLOW TAN FAN !!! LOVEE đ
@@miraturtlerabbit6978 OMG HIII!!đ„čđ„č
One of the members(Jaejun) is in this Boys Love Vlog type of drama on CZcams and Im literally so obsessed with him . His acting is so good>>>
@@onlykpopbl2551 omg I saw it too and heâs such a good actor!!
iâm a zb1 + kep1 ult and i always get baffled when someone says âzb1/kep1 is a global group!!â cuz u know damn well that only like 3 members of each of them are âglobalâ which is JUST 1/3. atp js call TWS a global group bcoz they have one chinese member đ„ș
5:22 I been feeling that way too like no real reason to add to my phone because thereâs nothing that sticks out
Tommy February6 is a jpop artists I like, I recommend: Je tâaime, Email More, In the Mood for Dancing, and Bloominâ
Kpop stands for KOREAN pop. How would a group with no Koreans be kpop? Also I get that not leaving Asia or Asian roots is not GLOBAL, but also where else do Asian people get that much exposure in music if not in kpop??? Thatâs all.
no oneâs saying asian ppl need to go somewhere else to get their exposure though, just seeing ppl of other races right alongside asian ppl would be pretty cool and would bring a lot of attention to the group. plus ur right, kpop does stand for korean pop but thatâs only the language you sing in. look at blackswan. they are kpop even though they have no korean members bc they are managed by a korean company and they sing in korean. thatâs all it really takes to be considered kpop.
The illit and lsf hate train is so insane to me because you'd think they threw a bunch of idols in a basement and refuse to release them with the way kpop stans are acting towards them
First off, great to see you, hope you're doing well! I always love watching these videos of yours because it's like a breath of fresh air. So many "that's what I'm saying!!!!" moments.
So, I can't find any full info anywhere on how exactly PLAVE uses the motion capture technology, just that they do. I just want to note that motion capture technology does often use AI. That being said, PLAVE is not AI *generated* - which is what it seems people are often assuming/saying. AI technology is such a vast thing, but so many people seem to think it's all the same. AI can be an incredible thing - it can also be a horrible thing. It just depends on how and why it's being used.
About diversity in K-Pop. I'm definitely not one of those "keep K-Pop Korean" people - and am cool with the idea of seeing more diversity. I understand why there isn't though, kinda? South Korea isn't a diverse country. In fact, it's one of the most ethnically homogenous nations in the world (literally in the top 5). And iirc, the whole diversity subject is kinda an issue within Korean culture (as many aren't open to it, so to speak). That being said - groups shouldn't be called "global" simply because they may have a member or two of either different ethnicity or nationality. And it's silly - obviously if/when that label comes from the company itself (rather than fans) they are aware it gives them more attention... So like, anyone gonna tell them what ACTUALLY making a "global group" would do? đ
Personally, I'm not past my only listening to kpop phase yet, but I have started trying the discographies of older kpop artists (finished Snsd + their solos except for Tiffany and Jessica, planning to start trying Shinee's discography starting with their solos). Right now, I feel like seeking the songs of those older kpop artists is enough for me, even when I get a little bored of newer kpop releases, which feel a little copy paste as you said. But when I listen to them, it makes me feel interested in kpop again.
But maybe eventually, I will start trying music outside of Kpop, too.
Definitely recommend Shinee (theyâre my ults & I can go on for days), Infinite (BTD, Paradise, Come Back Again), & TVXQ (recommend Hug, O, Purple Line, Crazy Love)
For GGs, I recommend CSJH The Grace and f(x)
Hereâs some of my favorites: CSJH - One More Time, Ok?, Dancer in the Rain, Piranha
f(x) - Signal, All Night, Milk, Rum Pum Pum
ââ@@springss1861 Hi, thanks for the recommendations! I actually already listened to most of Key's music (love The killer and the Gasoline album) and their Hard album (didn't like the title đ but the bsides are great, love Sweet Misery and The Feeling and Identity) but only now do I feel like giving Shinee and their other soloists a try. I'm ngl, i might give 2PM a try too one day
@@nollyagasen159 youâve never given Taemin a try?? Or Jonghyun??
I literally did a re-listen of ATEEZ's entire discography last week and I genuinely liked every song and felt that everything flowed together really well. I don't think I pressed skip even once. I hope their new album continues this trend đ€đ€
You are not the only one getting bored with the current landscape of K-pop
Iâve been listening to Xikers and old Dreamcatcher songs
As you should
Xikers are mid, especially their latest title track which was terrible but thatâs my personal opinion please donât take it to heart :)
@@angiebaebii yes I understand that. I too didn't like their recent comeback.
Thanks for speaking up about Plave ~ A Pllis here who wishes the best for our boysâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž
1. THANK YOUUU. Of course, they need to improve vocally, and i'm not against criticism, but it wasn't as bad as most stans were making it. Of course, they need to improve, but the hate train didn't fit the crime.
You should listen to blush by wooah it reminds me of old ggs, while having their own spin on it
love blush and wooah đ€§
Instantly subscribed after this video
thank youâ€
you're not wrong to say that kpop is getting bland cause it is like i'm only held down cause i've very picky with groups i follow (nmixx, young posse, kiss of life, rescene, aespa, ateez(kinda)) and i mostly listen to other genres and artists (the front bottoms, penelope scott, bibi, joyner lucas, melanie martinez, billie eillish, hey nothing, marina etc) for my own sanity so i don't get sick of kpop
idk how much i agree with the kpop is getting bland thing actually - i do agree that too many mainstream groups are doing the same set of trendy vibes rn (laid-back / y2k / dreamy / some afrobeats / etc.), more so than the trend phases in past generations, it feels like, but i also think that enough groups out there are still doing their own thing that i'm not like, entirely and insufferably bored by the industry as a whole rn.
i think some examples of groups that are very much following the trends i mentioned rn are txt, riize, lsf, nj (yes you can argue they started the trend, no i dont think that makes them any less ""bland"" and yes i think their entire discography sounds the same :/... ) but like p1h, svt, even babymon, gi-dle, sort of nct, sort of tbz, i would say are all staying with their own sound / unique enough from the trend that i personally don't feel bored :)
Thank you for speaking up đ
artist suggestions
lexie liu
triples
young posse
seori (soloist in general because i feel like half of soloist do stuff thats different from "usual" kpop stuff)
ayra starr
9:36 Thank you for saying this, I'm biased cause I'd like to be an idol but yeah
the way i sat up straight when i heard the teardrop instrumental
Thank you for being someone who still loves Itzy.đâ€
I agreed with your opinions girl. You speaking fact. đ©·
5:30 omg yes. I dont even follow any comebacks anymore. If I see a new release I watch the yt video and if ıts a group I like (which has really shrank down to a few only) I check the entıre album and mostly end up not lıkıng it:(
I hope you are ok now miss/mister or non binary yoshified may I ask a question. Is the boycott of the companies still going on? Is just that it was said that it's only till 1 may so I was confused if it is extended or not and if it is extended than that's great too cause now I am listening to more of my own country songs .
Also and please correct me if I am wrong if the companies know that the boycott against some companies are happening can't they have a seminar of a kind with their artist informing them? I actually don't know if this is a bad take cause I am still not an adult and I don't know that much so pls notify me about these things.
I hope everyones health is ok đ
Thank you so much for bringing attantion to the Gen0side in Gaza and using your Plattform for a good course đđ
And Treasure comeback is on may 28th with their TT KingKong
4:55 u so right... i noticed that too....
baddie is THAT girl and chaewon especially killed it at coachella, my mind will not be changed
I MISSED YOU SO MUCH GURLđđ
Iâve been into Kpop since the beginning of August of 2018
Loona pulled me into Kpop and It has always had me pinned in a corner, I loved how fun Kpop was during those years
But I feel like as far as mid 2023 Kpop music has changed, and not for the better :(
Kpop companies need to realize how powerful music can truly be, it should never be about trying to chase popularity, it should be about being Itâs own identity to your groups, I can use Loona as an example.
Loona has always been about the creative direction, for as much as their music is well loved, they were also widely known for their story the Loonavserse, even after JJ left, Loona still had the charm, they may have changed a little but that didnât stop them from growing and becoming something beyond wonderful.
Even their struggles with BBC had helped influence the current direction of the Loonavserse, the story was once about breaking a loop and saving the world, but now the mission of the Loonaverse is to bring everyone back together as 12, itâs a journey Iâll be here for.
If I could also recommend any music from any groups here would be my choices
Girl Group: TripleS
Boy Group: Younite and EâLast
Defs agree with you with E'last. I wish more people gave them a chance!
@@purpleantidote6120their music choices are so uniqueđ the members are also super talented! (Iâm not exaggerating either)
hi! may i ask you, how did you promote your channel? I recently opened mine too and I really want more people to find out about it. can you give some tips?
i donât really have anything specific, i just kinda got lucky w youtubeâs algorithm but i think that posting often helps a lot. youtube likes consistency.
@@yoshified_ thanks!
Welcome back bestie we missed you
Didn't know that you listen to psychic fever !! Nice to see though!!
Wessa & Jimmy are both so fine just all of them tbh !!
"BabyMonster makes good music" standards are so low nowadays. But I agree that the I'll It hate is so forced.
my standards arenât low, musicâs just subjective đ
@@yoshified_ agreed
kpop really has become super bland lately, like ive mainly been listening to 2nd gen songs and &team (btw STAN &TEAM THEY'RE SUPER TALENTED AND UNDERRATED). altho i do like how kiof did midas touch, very late 90s-early 2000s
you should check out mrs green apple !! theyre jpop and sooooo good
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK đŁïžđŁïžđŁïžđ„đ„đ„(and the twitter users, istg they be on a different planet đ)
Check out :
Rolling Quartz (krock)
EREZA (albanian)
moë (jpop)
maybe you've ranked them before, but could you please share your thoughts on svt's new cb? anyways, great video
i havenât listened to it due to the hybe boycott
@@yoshified_ not even illegally heh?
nah i just havenât had time
fr lsfm was NOT ready for a stage as big as coachella with little to no backing track BUT THEY SOUNDED COMPLETELY FINE FOR MOST OF THE SHOW !! and bbmon are talented as FUCK like i get they have an easy choreo but the vocals go HARD !! and stop the illit hate bro just get over everythingđđđ esp this drama bw nj and illit,, can we stop hating on the groups that played literally NO PART in this whole ordeal??? if illit plagarized (which they DIDNT) it's their creative team's problem and fault why the fuck are you hating on the girls and bringing them down? all they did was perform and give it their best?
It seems like kep1er will extend their contracts with 7 members, but even then you have kep1ians bashing them for this... like a lot of their companies are smaller and don't have a new group to redebut them in like Ive or Lesserafim
Definitely give a listen to MONSTA X , especially their album 'all about luv' ,'the dreaming ' etc.
i stan them đ
@@yoshified_ you have great choice thenđ€đ
I LOVE untouchable 3:23
I don't stan plave but I don't understand the hate like even if they were like mave and all they did is singing health breaks could still be needed its just goofy beacause ive seen lots of clips of them and they look like a fun group
I think you'd like onf if you dont alreaydl listen to them since they have a very concrete identity
i really wasnât that big of a fan of their recent music đ
8:28 YESSS FRR
The problem with Illit is that even though they weren't that bad, the song itself is so easy to be sung that people are wondering whether their music will continue to be this boring and forgettable. There is nothing spectacular in the whole DEBUT album. That's their debut and the thing the company dod to the girls is making their debut part of the whole massive trendy era that the music has been stuck into since 2022 with those boring and repetitive melodies with almost no singing but only talking in the songs
5:22 me too
62 DOLLARS FOR BTS??? HOW
i can't even find a ticket for a smaller group that low
that was in 2019 đ
I canât listen to plave im sorry âWave for loveâ đ
The only thing I disagree with (and this is personal taste people don't come at me lol) is the NCT Dream newest album being their best - I think its there worst or bottom 3 at the very least - I was so disappointed listening to it. I liked (not even loved) 1-2 songs :( the others were either terrible or just meh
itâs the only album of thereâs i think is a no skip đ
@@yoshified_ most of them are skips for me lol but I'm glad you enjoyed it! We don't always love every comeback but thats okay :)
I mean Weesa was born and raised in Japan so why would he go to Kpop
im not saying that lol, im just saying that heâs korean, but someone who is half white and half korean would be accepted over there in that space before him, which is unfortunate
So you don't listen to any western artist? Cuz i like kpop but I find it weird that people who grew in America dont listen to songs made by western artsit..
idk how thatâs weird đ but i listen to western artists, im just not actively checking for new music from them. itâs more like i listen to old songs i grew up on from like the 2000s and 2010s
Iâm also like this and honestly kpop has made it so easy to find new artists that when I try to find western artists idk where to look đ. Like variety shows, music shows, and just random ass clips are so easy to find in kpop but hardly everywhere else without knowing where to look
You chewed
6:22 you should probably stan txt because my boys got every fcking thing, like they are so talented, professional, well-trained, all-rounders, performances, discography is just top tier and the humor and personalities of the members.. istg you would never regret itđ€ no wonder they are "4th gen it group" for a reason.
i stan txt, and iâve actually been losing interest in them bc of their fandom đ
@@yoshified_ really? i feel bad :/
I donât believe that Kpop needs that much diversity itâs literally Korean Pop but everyone has their own opinion đ€·đœââïž
korean pop is just the language they sing in so i think they could add some
@angiebaebii if kpop groups and companies can dibble and dabble in other countries music and dancing and incorporate them into theirs as "concept" they can definitely have foreign members especially if they want that "global attention". I know they have foreigners behind the scenes but they can also have some in front of the camera
@@talardusvenska1519 Oh you mean how K-pop was built off of western pop then over the years developed itself into it's own genre? I find it pretty hypocritical that you can act as though K-pop has it's own standards while a good portion of the songs are sourced from western composers and producers, and remember it is K-pop that is trying to move into the U.S market not the other way around. You should probably learn the industry a little bit better before you start talking about being disrespected.
â@TheRyno525 Asian representation is a must I don't see that in the west
@@norabeckwith9154 Do you live here? How did this happen? According to the export trade statistics of the Korea Customs Service on July 18, 2023, exports of K-Pop albums have reached an all-time high in the first half of the year. Moreover, the United States has now overtaken China as the second-largest market for K-Pop and music exports, solidifying the genreâs presence in the West. Does that happen without representation?
My unpopular opinion is people gotta stop screaming âHYBE is behind this bad/sus thing that happened.â They sound like the boy who cried wolf. Talk about the things we legitimately know they do instead of making them the kpop boogeyman.
I canât speak to the tix thing⊠I just dropped a bunch of money on Ateez tickets ($350 for mine + and part of my plus oneâs tix). But Iâm also a full adult and I only pay to see Ateez. It does sound freeing though to not care where you are and just chill in the back of a group that you like, but donât want to spend a ton of money on.
Baddie by IVE is trash lol
oh?
Baddie isn't trash it just is mid....just Mid..not a banger not bad just mid
I prefer it HEYA ngl. HEYA is so mid. The sampling needs to go. But Accendio is peak.
both songs go hard, ive has yet to release a bad title track đ€§
@@yoshified_ donât know about that one boo đŹ
10:46 Because Korea likes uniformity. If you see stadistics regarding etnicity in the country, it is like 99% korean iirc, so yeah, they aren't as a country inclined for diversity, unfortunately
yeah but ppl also like money, so why they havenât hopped on it yet is beyond me, especially a company like hybe who is hella money hungry
â@@yoshified_ For their main objective being money, a lot of companies sure don't like to take those chances for even more moneyđ
@@yoshified_ because they know a lot of kpop fans are also lowkey koreaboos who would be the first to revolt if their kpop groups became 'less korean'
â@@yoshified_no offensive if that's the case then the west needs more full Asian singers not half Asian singers I mean people like Eric nam Jessica Jung etc Asian diversity in America sucks right now untill we see Asians in America being successful I don't want kpop to have non Asians how is it fair to expect kpop to have non Asians in it but western music can't do the same thing like ur channel though
why canât it go both ways lol
every space music or not should be diverse
2:45 RIGHT it was literally just moka who was bad, people are js hating because its illit
WE NEED YOU TO DEBUT A GROUP!!!
BTW TYSM FOR USING YOUR PLATFORM FOR PLAESTINE YOU'RE THE ONLY KTUBER WHO'S BEEN DOING IT AND I'M SO GREAT FULL FOR THAT. đâ€ïžâđ©č
im actually debuting a group soon, stay tuned and of course, just trying to help as much as possible