Good Explanation, I have no Tick, But I replaced the Oil Cooler Filter Housing with the Aluminum one only because I had a Bad oil pressure sensor.While everything was apart I changed the plugs and coils since I had 140K on them. I also added a Baxter oil filter adapter to run a spin on filter, this keeps oil in the filter, the stock cartridge one drains back within 20-30 minutes and you get the dry start rattling which may cause premature rocker failure. On my 2015 Grand Cherokee if you use the Mobil 1 M1-212A filter it clears the Engine Cover and has the correct flow and bypass PSI required for this engine. Definitely a good upgrade if you’re keeping your Vehicle for a long time and Can’t afford 60-80k for a new one.
Just wanted to give you a massive shoutout mate, I decided to tackle this job myself after a few watches of your video! I had the issue on the other side so was a bit easier for me as I didn't have to fiddle with that pcv valve. After a few hours of cursing and some sunburn I managed to get it all fixed! Had a small issue afterwards as I didn't realise the white gasket had fallen out behind the thottle body but all fixed now and purring like a kitten! If you ever holiday in Australia ill have to buy you a few beers! Cheers!
Thank you so much for this video it’s hard trying to find what’s going on with my vehicle and looking for a good mechanic that would help my Jeep is experiencing this same problem and without me watching your video I would of never knew. Thank you again. Please post more .
Thanks for this post. My 2015 JGC Overland started with this ticking sound within the last few months and thought it was the serpentine belt. Thanks for again for letting me know what to expect
Excellent instructional video. My Jeep GC 3.6 V6 has this exact problem I think. I see that it is tedious to get to it and is going to be costly because of labour.
My 2012 identical To your Jeep just starting doing this. I can’t do this. How do you know which side it is ? Mine is louder. I checked the oil it’s fine . How much is this gonna cost ?
I just discovered mine making a similar noise but the ticking is at least twice as fast as yours at idle. Not sure what is is but this can’t be good. Also the noise goes a way for a minute or so then comes back for a minute or two.
Great info on this issue. I just recently noticed the tick on my 2014 GC. I'm assuming that since it's apart, the valve cover and intake manifold gaskets should be replaced? Thanks.
Yes. Since you're taking it apart it's a good idea to replace the gaskets. I actually didn't and I've been chasing oil leaks and having to go in and replace the gaskets. Wish I had done it when I had everything taken apart the first time.
Thank you for sharing this video! I am hoping to be able to take care of this issue myself if I can. I am not finding the video associated with the link about how to remove the air intake tube and cover. Has that been removed or am I missing it completely? I am a novice and not well versed in mechanics, but I think with time I can do it. If there are any other videos I am missing for removal of certain tubes/parts for this repair, please direct me to those too if you made them. Thank you!
hey thanks very much for your time to make this video. Just a question, if the rocker arm that needs replacing is on the front of the engine, can you still lift the cam up high enough to remove and replace it?
Hey there! Yes it is possible to replace a rocker arm on the front of the engine. But the closer you get to the front of the engine, the more careful you have to be. If the timing chain slips, you'll throw off the engine timing and then you'll have to reset the timing which is really difficult. Here's another video which is great and he shows a safer (but more expensive and more difficult) method where you can change the rocker arms on the front of the engine without fear of messing up the timing. Hope this helps and good luck! czcams.com/video/XkrwxVVcjsg/video.html
Unfortunately the HEMI 5.7L engine is a different engine. This fix won't work for that engine. Check out this video. He talks about 2 different ticks with a HEMI engine. czcams.com/video/cL3xNoKs9E4/video.html
Had to listen really closely to hear which side it's coming from. Some people will put a stethoscope on it. You can also put a screwdriver or something metal to it and you'll be able to tell the difference and hear where it's coming from.
Great video. Question for you. From what I've read, this is a common issue with the rocker arm going out, as it seems to be a poorly made piece. Is there a reason why you didn't replace all the rocker arms on that side, while you already had access? Thanks for your help here!
It's best to replace them all once you have access. I only replaced the one because of money. But once you're in there, replace them all if you can afford it. Also, using my technique the ones at the end are hard (almost impossible) to remove and replace. You'll need to fully remove the cam shaft to make it easier and then you'll need special tools to do that or you'll mess up your engine timing.
Costs can vary. I wrote a quick blog post about how much this job will cost if you take it to a mechanic. moretimethanmoney.blog/jeep-grand-cherokee-wk2-pentastar-tick-rocker-arm-replacement/
i’ve got this sound only with hot engine and in D gear while standing. the sound disappears when i switch to N or when i start moving. Can it be the rocker arm issue as well or likely smith else?
It's likely something else. The rocker arm most is caused by then cam shaft rotating on the rocker arm and the ball bearing in the rocker arm having worn out so now the cam shaft is hitting the metal sides of the rocker arm. The noise is constant when the engine is running. Since you only hear your noise when you're in gear, I'd start to suspect the transmission.
@@Moretimethanmoney my sports jeep does the same it only ticks on idle and dosent tick when i drive but i am a student in hs and i wanna do mechanic but im scared to break the engine 😅
@@davidco1767 this could be the same tick. The tempo of the tick changes as the engine warms up and the rpms go down. Try and listen with the hood up and see if you can tell if the noise is coming from a particular side of the engine. If you listen closely you'll be able to tell that it's consistent and coming from either the passenger or driver side.
Cost can vary, but I wrote a quick blog post for anyone that's interested in how much it costs if you take it to a mechanic. You can find the costs here:. moretimethanmoney.blog/jeep-grand-cherokee-wk2-pentastar-tick-rocker-arm-replacement
for reference i was quoted 4500 from a dealership a week ago. this is to replace all the camshafts and rockers (not sure if they were doing lifters also)
My 2015 grand cherokee recently started making the exact same noise. My brother thought it sounded like a bad lifter valve. This has been going on a couple months. Just need to find a reputable mechanic in my area
Dude quick question. How the hell did you get the valve cover off with that stupid transmission fill tube in the way? I got the pcv valve the cam sensor out but when i lift the valve cover off the back corner gets caught on that transmission fill tube. I’m at a loss dude. Any info is much appreciated
Been awhile since I've done this one so my memory is getting hazy. If I remember correctly, first make sure you remove the PVC valve. See about 5:33 in the video. If you got that piece off I think that you have to push the valve cover back towards the rear of the jeep and then lift it up and then you can slide it out from under the transmission fill tube with some jiggling. Anyone else done this more recently can give Michael some tips on how to get the valve cover from under the fill tube?
Check out this video at 2:15. Notice how he lifts it up and then pushes it back a little before it'll come off. czcams.com/video/bV5frHweDlI/video.html
Hey buddy thanks for the reply!!!!!! And your help. FYI for anyone working on a 3.6 from 2011 till ....... You don’t need to remove or loosen the 2 bolts for the transmission filler tube. Just push on it towards the firewall while picking up on the valve cover and pulling it towards you. Slides right out. Same putting it back in. Now on another note. I HATE THIS FRIGGIN JEEP!!!!!!! Since I bought it brand new it’s been a POS. My daughter has it now but ever since I brought the thing home it’s been a problem. Recall after recall after recall. Anyway I really appreciate the help.
Hey Simon! Unfortunately yes. What's happening is that the rocket arm has a ball bearing in it which has broken. Essentially it's a wheel inside your engine. When your engine runs, there's a pole inside your engine with little nobs on it. Those nobs control when gas is let into the cylinder and then the spark plugs fire and that's what makes your car go. That pole runs on the wheel and the wheel is not even. Which is why you hear the tick. Over time that tick is going to get worse and the nobs on the pole are going to wear down. Your engine will start running rough and won't accelerate as good. Eventually that pole (the cam shaft) will need to be replaced. That's really expensive and difficult. Your car will still run for a long time. Like years with the tick, but eventually someone will have to fix it. If you can't afford to fix it, you might want to sell the car.
You should be able to get in there with a wrench and remove the nut holding the upper airtake manifold to the bracket. Once you've removed that nut the manifold cam be removed. You don't need to remove the bracket.
This is exactly what’s going on with my jeep. Appreciate it with the video and getting straight to the point. Thanks.
Good Explanation, I have no Tick, But I replaced the Oil Cooler Filter Housing with the Aluminum one only because I had a Bad oil pressure sensor.While everything was apart I changed the plugs and coils since I had 140K on them. I also added a Baxter oil filter adapter to run a spin on filter, this keeps oil in the filter, the stock cartridge one drains back within 20-30 minutes and you get the dry start rattling which may cause premature rocker failure. On my 2015 Grand Cherokee if you use the Mobil 1 M1-212A filter it clears the Engine Cover and has the correct flow and bypass PSI required for this engine. Definitely a good upgrade if you’re keeping your Vehicle for a long time and Can’t afford 60-80k for a new one.
Just wanted to give you a massive shoutout mate, I decided to tackle this job myself after a few watches of your video! I had the issue on the other side so was a bit easier for me as I didn't have to fiddle with that pcv valve. After a few hours of cursing and some sunburn I managed to get it all fixed! Had a small issue afterwards as I didn't realise the white gasket had fallen out behind the thottle body but all fixed now and purring like a kitten! If you ever holiday in Australia ill have to buy you a few beers! Cheers!
Thank you so much for this video it’s hard trying to find what’s going on with my vehicle and looking for a good mechanic that would help my Jeep is experiencing this same problem and without me watching your video I would of never knew. Thank you again. Please post more .
Thanks for this post. My 2015 JGC Overland started with this ticking sound within the last few months and thought it was the serpentine belt. Thanks for again for letting me know what to expect
Excellent instructional video. My Jeep GC 3.6 V6 has this exact problem I think. I see that it is tedious to get to it and is going to be costly because of labour.
Great video, my 2012 v6 has started the same noise
Thank you for INCLUDING the sound!!!
My 2012 identical
To your Jeep just starting doing this. I can’t do this. How do you know which side it is ? Mine is louder. I checked the oil it’s fine . How much is this gonna cost ?
Great watch man. Thanks!
I just discovered mine making a similar noise but the ticking is at least twice as fast as yours at idle. Not sure what is is but this can’t be good. Also the noise goes a way for a minute or so then comes back for a minute or two.
U ever figure it out?
Great info on this issue. I just recently noticed the tick on my 2014 GC. I'm assuming that since it's apart, the valve cover and intake manifold gaskets should be replaced?
Thanks.
Yes. Since you're taking it apart it's a good idea to replace the gaskets. I actually didn't and I've been chasing oil leaks and having to go in and replace the gaskets. Wish I had done it when I had everything taken apart the first time.
Nicely done ✔️
Thank you for sharing this video! I am hoping to be able to take care of this issue myself if I can. I am not finding the video associated with the link about how to remove the air intake tube and cover. Has that been removed or am I missing it completely? I am a novice and not well versed in mechanics, but I think with time I can do it. If there are any other videos I am missing for removal of certain tubes/parts for this repair, please direct me to those too if you made them. Thank you!
hey thanks very much for your time to make this video. Just a question, if the rocker arm that needs replacing is on the front of the engine, can you still lift the cam up high enough to remove and replace it?
Hey there! Yes it is possible to replace a rocker arm on the front of the engine. But the closer you get to the front of the engine, the more careful you have to be. If the timing chain slips, you'll throw off the engine timing and then you'll have to reset the timing which is really difficult. Here's another video which is great and he shows a safer (but more expensive and more difficult) method where you can change the rocker arms on the front of the engine without fear of messing up the timing. Hope this helps and good luck!
czcams.com/video/XkrwxVVcjsg/video.html
good job
Great video. To the point.
Great. Thank you
I'm so impressed with your confidence and ability to tackle and successfully repair this daunting task. Will you marry me? ; )
Thank you so much .
Is this solution also the fixing for 5.7 Hemi if it has the sound tick sound?
Unfortunately the HEMI 5.7L engine is a different engine. This fix won't work for that engine. Check out this video. He talks about 2 different ticks with a HEMI engine. czcams.com/video/cL3xNoKs9E4/video.html
Anyone try this, how difficult is it?
How did u know it was on the passenger side ? Mine has no check engine light and makes that sound .
Had to listen really closely to hear which side it's coming from. Some people will put a stethoscope on it. You can also put a screwdriver or something metal to it and you'll be able to tell the difference and hear where it's coming from.
My guy kept saying the head tho 😂
So I cut the zip ties off then without taking Off the Christmas tree s when it’s time to reinstall Ik where it groes just use new zip ties
Where do you live. I have the same Issue too with my jeep 2012 JGC
Oregon, but it's the design of the engine causing the problem. Not the environment.
Great video. Question for you. From what I've read, this is a common issue with the rocker arm going out, as it seems to be a poorly made piece. Is there a reason why you didn't replace all the rocker arms on that side, while you already had access? Thanks for your help here!
It's best to replace them all once you have access. I only replaced the one because of money. But once you're in there, replace them all if you can afford it. Also, using my technique the ones at the end are hard (almost impossible) to remove and replace. You'll need to fully remove the cam shaft to make it easier and then you'll need special tools to do that or you'll mess up your engine timing.
Did u get any metal specks in the oil filter prior to doing this?
I didn't. The oil always looked fine when I did oil and filter changes. The ticking was the only indication that I had a problem.
How much would it cost to fix this ?
Costs can vary. I wrote a quick blog post about how much this job will cost if you take it to a mechanic.
moretimethanmoney.blog/jeep-grand-cherokee-wk2-pentastar-tick-rocker-arm-replacement/
i’ve got this sound only with hot engine and in D gear while standing. the sound disappears when i switch to N or when i start moving. Can it be the rocker arm issue as well or likely smith else?
It's likely something else. The rocker arm most is caused by then cam shaft rotating on the rocker arm and the ball bearing in the rocker arm having worn out so now the cam shaft is hitting the metal sides of the rocker arm. The noise is constant when the engine is running. Since you only hear your noise when you're in gear, I'd start to suspect the transmission.
@@Moretimethanmoney my sports jeep does the same it only ticks on idle and dosent tick when i drive but i am a student in hs and i wanna do mechanic but im scared to break the engine 😅
@@zzahiiidd don't be scared. Dive in and give it a chance. But based on your symptoms I don't think your issue is the rocker arm.
Can this tick be slow tick at the beginning
Does it go away once it's warmed up?
@@Moretimethanmoney no 👎 i start it up you can hear the tick pretty quickly and loud but not to loud and then it slows down and gets slightly quite
@@davidco1767 this could be the same tick. The tempo of the tick changes as the engine warms up and the rpms go down. Try and listen with the hood up and see if you can tell if the noise is coming from a particular side of the engine. If you listen closely you'll be able to tell that it's consistent and coming from either the passenger or driver side.
@@Moretimethanmoney yeah it’s on the top ish driver side
How much would this cost if i take it to the mechanic?
Cost can vary, but I wrote a quick blog post for anyone that's interested in how much it costs if you take it to a mechanic. You can find the costs here:. moretimethanmoney.blog/jeep-grand-cherokee-wk2-pentastar-tick-rocker-arm-replacement
for reference i was quoted 4500 from a dealership a week ago. this is to replace all the camshafts and rockers (not sure if they were doing lifters also)
My buddy charged me 100 bucks lol
Bro how much you can charge for this job? I have this problem in my jeep
The parts are cheap. Unfortunately it's a lengthy job so the labor is expensive.
@@Moretimethanmoney danm mine have this noise any idea how much it will be ?
@@anbusquad7421 From what I can find online it can run from $600-$1000 parts and labor.
My 2015 grand cherokee recently started making the exact same noise. My brother thought it sounded like a bad lifter valve. This has been going on a couple months. Just need to find a reputable mechanic in my area
@@marcusclark4521 I too have a 15 Laredo with the same ticking noise. Have you fixed the problem? If so, what was the cause?
Dude quick question. How the hell did you get the valve cover off with that stupid transmission fill tube in the way? I got the pcv valve the cam sensor out but when i lift the valve cover off the back corner gets caught on that transmission fill tube. I’m at a loss dude. Any info is much appreciated
Been awhile since I've done this one so my memory is getting hazy. If I remember correctly, first make sure you remove the PVC valve. See about 5:33 in the video. If you got that piece off I think that you have to push the valve cover back towards the rear of the jeep and then lift it up and then you can slide it out from under the transmission fill tube with some jiggling. Anyone else done this more recently can give Michael some tips on how to get the valve cover from under the fill tube?
Check out this video at 2:15. Notice how he lifts it up and then pushes it back a little before it'll come off. czcams.com/video/bV5frHweDlI/video.html
Hey buddy thanks for the reply!!!!!! And your help. FYI for anyone working on a 3.6 from 2011 till ....... You don’t need to remove or loosen the 2 bolts for the transmission filler tube. Just push on it towards the firewall while picking up on the valve cover and pulling it towards you. Slides right out. Same putting it back in. Now on another note. I HATE THIS FRIGGIN JEEP!!!!!!! Since I bought it brand new it’s been a POS. My daughter has it now but ever since I brought the thing home it’s been a problem. Recall after recall after recall. Anyway I really appreciate the help.
Can something bad happen if I don't fix this? I can't do it myself nor can I afford to have someone fix it for me...
Hey Simon! Unfortunately yes. What's happening is that the rocket arm has a ball bearing in it which has broken. Essentially it's a wheel inside your engine. When your engine runs, there's a pole inside your engine with little nobs on it. Those nobs control when gas is let into the cylinder and then the spark plugs fire and that's what makes your car go. That pole runs on the wheel and the wheel is not even. Which is why you hear the tick. Over time that tick is going to get worse and the nobs on the pole are going to wear down. Your engine will start running rough and won't accelerate as good. Eventually that pole (the cam shaft) will need to be replaced. That's really expensive and difficult. Your car will still run for a long time. Like years with the tick, but eventually someone will have to fix it. If you can't afford to fix it, you might want to sell the car.
did you turn the crankshaft at all to line up the camshafts/phasors?
I didn't move the camshaft at all. At 7:47 you can see. I just loosened up the bolts enough to replace the broken rocker arm.
How do you get the bracket at 2:50 out of the way??
You should be able to get in there with a wrench and remove the nut holding the upper airtake manifold to the bracket. Once you've removed that nut the manifold cam be removed. You don't need to remove the bracket.