*Best Cameras for $1000-2000 in Mid 2023* - Great Selection - czcams.com/video/xypbFQr2gCw/video.html *Additional notes:* Sony A7 III has 30 min. video recording limited, X-S20 is unlimited. X-S20 is more overheating resistant + you can use external fan connected to the backside of the camera. A7 III is relatively resistant to overheating as well, better than most current gen hybrid FF DSLMs.
I would be surprised if it does not overheat more than a7iii because They say it overheats after a few minutes of taking photos, is this true (the x-s20)?? Because in a video we saw it overheated in 30 minutes in 6k. in photo it is how many hours please?? Especially in temperature of 31°C daily because I would like to do 2 outdoor weddings in photo and some videos in full hd for tiktok. Thank you for answering 😊 and I subscribe
I have talked about that in my X-S20 video, it definitely didn't overheat after 30 minutes in my testing. I don't think that if will overheat at all if you only use it for photos, as long as you don't leave it in direct sunlight. If you need to use it in extreme conditions get that external fan.
@@TheHybridShooterI avoid using this cooling gadget because if I pay for the x-s20 it's for its compactness and quality. Adding this thing again will just push me to buy a sony a7iv or an xh2 or one and I don't really want one. You have just reassured me and I am thinking of buying it tomorrow at the latest.
Ah aperture equivalence 😁. I agree that it is real, but in a comparison, you should only count for it once. Once you compare a crop sensor with a 1.4 lens to a full frame with a 2.8 lens, your crop sensor isn't shooting on higher iso with more noise anymore. 🤷. If you decided to compromise on image quality, your kit will be smaller. On both ff and crop. But buying ff and then compromising on immage quality makes little sense to me. 🤔
About the weather sealing on a7iii. I once fell into a sea withe the body with 85mm f1.8 attached. It was completely under water for some seconds before I managed to go out of the water. That was three years ago. All still very good, I still use the same setup until now in 2023.
The X-S20's video features for the price still is mind boggling to me. I paid almost 10 grand for a cinema camera back in 2017, that did not have a lot of the features that the X-S20 now does have for a fraction of that price. It is insane. It is so much cheaper nowadays to start a professional video company.
@@DigiDriftZone That indeed is somewhat a factor to me too, I can imagine some curious reactions, although as long as the end result is good, no cliënt is really gonna make that an issue of course. Assuming you are delivering to clients who aren't video producers themselves.
I own an A7 III for some years now and still recommend it. There may be more modern cameras out there available today, but for this price point it is a great camera to get into full frame. That was the reason I got it in the first place. I wanted the FF look and switched over from Fuji. Fujis are great cameras as well with a very unique look and feel to them which I still like a lot. However, I find that the lens selection for Sony still is the most decisive factor for me. You can get cheap or expensive glass, compact lenses, lenses with incredible image quality and so on. There are lenses for every type of shooter and for all prices, too. Therefore, I will stick with my A7 III. At some point I will probably switch to a more capable model like the A7 IV, but for now it does everything I want it to do. Since that is the case I will rather invest into good quality glass for now that I can use for many years.
Again, another great comparative review from Hybrid Shooter. So refreshing to have a reviewer who utilizes technical specs & isn't trying to promote a camera--just because there are affiliate sales lurking in the background. Wish all the reviewers were like this with what I call "high ethical standards." Thanks again, informative & entertaining with clarity. 😎😎
I just got a X-S20. It is pretty incredible so far. It is my first camera and I am still trying to learn how to use it, can't wait until I get a better handle of the controls. I also heard that Sonys are more difficult and less user friendly which was a big determinant for me.
It is incredible the staying power of the a7 iii. Great battery life, it started the turn around Sony in many ways. I have the a7r ii, and a7ii. Would love an a7 iii. But the a7iii is a tough one to get used. It has held its value really well. Though technically my a7Rii will hold its own. I like the new 100 series battery. I adapt my Sonys to run the less costly Canon EF glass. I buy all used, or open box at the most. I shoot both Canon, and Sony. Some of the selections are emotional too. Silly yes, but I got a used 1DX, and 1D mk.4 and those are my only Canon cameras save for the used Canon C100 Cine Camera I have too. There is a theme here. Used Canon EF glass. All my cameras take them. I snuck in a 35 f2.8 E mount Tamron. Couldn't pass up the deal for a fun street lens. Works great on my a6400 too. Fujifilm is killing it with their fun simulations, I love that, but it isn't in my system. Not a fan of the XT series ergonomics for me anyway. An XS-20 looks fun but can't justify it. I can buy a used Nikon Z5 for less and an all arounder lens but again not in my system. Love your videos, been a fan for a long time.
Great video, a testament to both cameras that a top-of-the-line FF camera from 5 years ago and a new budget APS-C camera are worth comparing. The hybrid capabilities of DSLM's has come along massively in this time. Keep up the good work. Would be interested to see some Micro Four Thirds content if that interests yourself at all.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 Not really again :) Fujifilm has dedicated entry level lines and they discontinue older cameras from entry level lines. Sony doesn't, their cameras just become entry level by getting older and they are only discontinued after two successors are out.
Great comparison, and one I am dealing with at the moment. Love my A7iii with Tamron 28-200 lens as an all in one solution. My issue is the combined size and the fact I end up leaving the camera at home so often when I go out. If I could find a lens (size/equivalent) like the sigma 18-50 2.8 for the A7iii I would be happy. But, at this point the X-s20 with the sigma lens I feel would be a great carry with me all the time solution. Or Sony A6700. Not to worried about video specs.
@@movakalin5333 a6700 is about $400 more in my country, isn't available yet and I'm not to sure about the viewfinder placement. Also, I have a friend shooting with an old xt3 and I do like the film simulations/straight out of camera images.
@@nzkiwimonster The 28-60mm kit lens would be an option. The 18-50 is a 28-75mm f/4.2 equivalent. So the newer Sony kit lens is kinda close in terms of specs.
Question I've heard a lot of overheating issues that the x-s20 experiences and the fact that just scrolling down on the menu almost makes it overheat. Had you ever experienced something like this?
i am buying my first camera, been borrowing and renting for some time now, i love the feature set of the fuji , it fulfils all my needs with the photography as i mostly take landscapes, macros ( really getting into product shots ) and not a lot of portraits tbh, the fuji also gives me enough space to growth in terms of videos ( which i would love to do as some promo material ) i really loved the video but it got me more confused tbh specially now that i am thinking about lens selections and the full frame look ( i have been using a z5/z6 ii till now with some zooms and f1.8 primes ) should i just pull the trigger on the fuji or looking into the sony will be a good decision ?
In terms of lenses, well, Sony all the way. There's not necessarily a full frame or even a medium format look. It's just all down to equivalence. You can still get f/2.1 equivalent lenses on Fuji or f/1.4 equiv manual lenses from Laowa. You won't get the f/1.4 or f/1.2 equivalent looks on Fuji. E-mount has more affordable options, and equivalent lenses are almost always cheaper/lighter than APS-C. Just look at Sony 24-70GM2 vs Fuji 16-55 weight. Or Sony 24-105f4 vs Fuji 16-55. Or the new 20-70mm f/4 vs MFT Panasonic Leica 10-25mm f/1.7 (f/3.4 equiv). That said, new Fuji primes are very well corrected, and you won't get the same kind of perfect IQ or performance in Sigma/Tamron lenses. So it's a tradeoff. The zooms are a little old and mostly are in need of updates. 1) Do you want perfect clean shots at a budget? Then Fuji. If you don't mind some chromatic aberrations, slightly softer corners but overall better sharpness/resolution, go Sony FF. Sharpness/resolution is related to lp/mm (lw/ph). Larger sensors almost always has better sharpness even with slightly softer lenses. 2) Fuji X-T5 does have pixel shift for macro or product shots. Sony only has it in the A7R5. But X-Trans files can be annoying if you don't use C1 (depends on personal tolerance). 3) Look into Fujifilm rants and Sony rants, especially from people in your area. Things like customer service, accessibility of service centres can be a consideration. Or user experience complains. Lots of people complained about X-H2(S) for 1 year before Fuji did some firmware updates about the ISO button.
Something in this video you may find very interesting. If you are on a 55” 4K TV like I am, Look at the sign “Gatto Matto Restaurant” @8:38 in the top right corner and watch the 4 second clip of the Fuji. The letters on the sign appear to be micro jittering as if they were added in post production via key framing. Of course they were not… so what do you think is happening here on the Fuji? 2 other people in this room confirm what I am seeing. Anyway, great point about the Low Pass filter on Sony @8:33 - Much less digital! I agree! Fantastic review! Much needed in the community! Thank you!
I like seeing a head to head comparison with different sensor formats. Many reviewers seem reluctant to do so, but when they're the same price people might reasonably cross-shop them.
I LOVE your channel! I honestly have watched so man of your videos. Your honesty is wonderful. I want to mention my case here in case anyone else is in the same boat. I am a long-time 35mm, medium format and former full frame shooter. I downsized to APS-C a while back and shoot mostly Fuji. I'm looking for a camera to do a few things. 1. As a second camera for my event work alongside my Fuji XH2s. The XH2s will serve for fast action and video. This camera would hold another lens for low-ish light portraits, though that is only 25% of what I do. 2. As a lightweight travel camera to do "occasional" wildlife, e.g. trips to nature areas where I often run into large birds or sometimes small song birds. This is only 30-40% of my travel need. 3. As a street photography camera, which is 70% of my need during travel. My Fuji x-t30 ii - I love the IQ, have the lenses but struggle with sun and LCD, evf is a bit cramped but not as cramped as the Sony A7C, which I was considering.I The Fuji x-s20 seems like a baby XH2s (in some aspects only). Very appealing. Choices can be overwhelming but ultimately, it must have a good viewfinder and be lightweight because as I turned 50, my eyes are not what they used to be and I have a former hand injury. To give you perspective, the Fuji xh2s and the 70-300mm is feasible. Maybe when the sigma comes out I can handle a little more weight but not much more. I guess I was leaning toward the Sony system for the size and AF, but I worry that the lenses might be too expensive or heavy and having to invest in new lenses seems daunting. Obviously, I already have invested a lot in Fuji but also want a different "look" sometimes. I am torn between full frame "bokelish" and the unique Fuji look with added bonus of small body. That’s a long comment to say that I will have the A7iii in my hands this weekend to test and if I cannot get on with it well, the Fuji x-s20 will be next.
Hi, I must first thank you for teaching me a lot about the camera and various settings. But I have a question?. I'm looking at the Fujifilm X-S20 a bit and it seems to be a good camera. I don't want to spend too much money, between 1000 USD to 2000 USD max. I also wonder if the Fujifilm X-S20 fits the Crane m3. I will mostly film City walks, the Fujifilm X-S20 is probably not weatherproof. But is there anything in the same price that is weather-protected and delivers good image quality?
awesome review, I would go for fujifilm xs20 I like that portability small light frame for travel, high resolution display since I use display screen and viewfinder, wonderful simulations if I get lazy grading and whopping battery picture taking life 😊
The monitor resolution on the XS20 amd the ibis is so much better than the A7iii. I think because of the newer technology the eye af is also much better. I just got my XS20 and im in love with it. Sold my XT3, kept my XH1 which i may sell, but the XS20 is something else.
Great video! :) Been using the XS20 for a few days now and found out there's no audio for footages I shot on 4K60p. Does anyone know how to fix this (if even possible)? Thanks!
Thanks for the interesting comparison. Plenty of good choices available these days. Could you one day explain the different ISO systems "REI" & "SOS" I have often heard Fuji ISO's are different but I don't understand why. I think the X-S20 may be a big seller for the feature set, time will tell I suppose.
Can you upload some 4k/6k flog2 footage to see the difference in grade process , please? I do have Sony and want to buy xs20 but wondering how will be those camera matching together. Like S-log3 and f-log2 Thanks!
You are the main reason I am considering the purchase of the Sony A7 III (with the entry level kit lens FE 24 - 70 F4 OSS). If my objective is to decorate my house with prints as large as the resolution allows, would you advise to go for Sony or Fujifilm X-T5 (with the kit lens 18 - 55 F2,8-4)? Can a 24 megapixel full frame camera with a cheap lens provide equal/ better results than a 40 megapixel crop camera with a basic lens? Thanks
That depends a lot on the situations. You won't get particularly great results with either of those lenses. X-T5 will probably provide more detail at base ISO, but A7 III will be better at higher ISOs.
Adding on, having more megapixels may not help. Go read up on lens sharpness/resolution. Imatest has some nice documentation. Simply put, the physically larger sensor will always result in a sharper print image at the same resolution and lenses of the same lp/mm. (line pairs per mm - often converted to line widths per picture height to compare different sensor formats) Following numbers are just for demonstration and not scientifically accurate. Let's say you have a ultra sharp Fuji lens like the 18mm f/1.4 that resolves 91+lp/mm. 91 * 16 = 1456. On a FF sensor you would only need a cheap lens resolving about 60lp/mm. Many lenses in the $500 range already exceed this performance. Also, skip the 24-70 f4 lens. That's extremely old and underwhelming. Buy body only and a 28-60mm kit lens both used if you can. See if you can get a Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 used if possible.
@@professionalpotato4764 40 MP vs 24 MP is enough difference to beat the pixel density advantage, though. In my testing, the need for super high quality glass for 40 MP APS-C sensor doesn't seem to be as dramatic as we thought. I have been getting very solid results even with pretty average lenses.
I like this video, because this photo (CHỢ ĐÊM NINH KIỀU on the picture) is from my hometown, Vietnam, where I live and I am passionate about photography and filming.
Both are great cameras...very hard to decide...i am not interested in video features...I never touched the video button, I'm only interested in stills...so I think the XS 20 is the winner..five years counts...
@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 yes im thinking of similar things. And from what they showed in the a6700 im expecting something close if not better on the a7cii. Anyways im saving up to get it if it comes soon enough :)
Weird how no one has done a X-S20 vs A6700 yet, that be way more interesting seeing how they are in a similar price bracket, the A7III is still pretty close to the A6700 in price in Europe.
Getting both review units at the same time is very difficult for an average camera reviewer, buying both doesn't make much sense, so not weird at all from my point of view.
Good and useful test, never thought about it but it makes a lot of sense. Thanks. (and don't mind about the fanboys on both "sides" - fanboyism is a plague)
@@TheHybridShooter yeah that's Can Tho City, I've been there couple times, great place for night photography and landscape, especially on the floating market where you can really test the detail of the images
Thank you for the comparison! There are some weird wobbly parts in the X-S20 video footage, most noticeably at 8:28 (trees and the river bank) and also at 10:37 (trees). Was this due to digital image stabiliser or something else? I haven't noticed this problem in any other X-S20 reviews.
You’re welcome! I don't really know to be honest, I will look into it. Those clips were shot with pre-production FW, so there might have been something wrong with that. It may also be some exporting / compression issue.
I appreciate that you call out Fuji iso shenanigans. No one else comments on how Fuji underexposes, this creating a misleading iso. So, when exposure is adjusted, Sony iso performance is actually closer to 1 2/3 stops, which is massive. Considering that, a FF 1.8 will outperform a Fuji 1.2 in low light when comparing the actual results of the image...and a Samyang 1.8 on sony is going to be worlds smaller and up to 4x cheaper than a Fuji 1.2.
Those are not shenanigans or attempts to mislead, SOS is actually an older ISO scale than REI, Panasonic and Pentax use it as well. It is simply like comparing kilometer and miles. Sony is better by 1 EV and some change.
@@TheHybridShooter sure, and there is the noise penalty associated with doing that. I'm a long time Fuji user who still has thousands invested in the system, but I appreciate you actually doing this. I also appreciate your frank discussion about lens size when equivalence is factored in. I bought a used a7c and some Samyang tiny lenses recently. A Fuji with comparable weather sealing, ibis, and that battery life paired with the viltrox 27 1.2 would be much bigger, heavier, and twice as expensive as I spent on an a7c with the 45 1.8. Considering that, why wouldn't I switch?
@@balboa0621 There is no noise penalty, you will get the same amount of noise that you would get with Sony APS-C in the same situation. It is just a different number, nothing else.
6:20 This guy walks towards you in the night, your actions will be: a) get on your knees and pray b) give him all the money you have c) sell your soul for 99 cents
when are you making long-term review of Viltrox 16mm f1.8 ? I have a sony a7iii, and only one lens tamron 28-75mm f2.8 Original lens/first generation, and want to buy a wide lens now, but i am really confused with viltrox one i mean according to you is it worth spending $500 on that lens ?
@@TheHybridShooter okay then let me consider it then, the only weird thing to me is that little screen on the lens, can you let me know hows the battery life of camera does the display takes too much of battery ?
No, it is isn't, various denoisers have been around for many years. You can use denoiser on full frame, get better result and you are back where you started.
In terms of lenses, while Sony has many options there are a few options in the aps-c field that Sony FF can't match from a price and size/weight perspective such as the sigma 18-50 2.8 for Fuji. That lens is half the size of any FF 24-70 type lens and is just as bright amd sharp. If you can afford it i generally recommend a full frame for portraits and work and then Fuji for travel where you have thousands of pictures andqybe you dont want to edit them all and you want something more compact and travel friendly.
That is a common misconception. 18-50 F2.8 is not comparable to full frame 24-70mm F2.8 by any means. It absolutely isn´t as bright as FF F2.8, that has been explained million times over. It also sacrifices wide-end to achieve that size and price. I have addressed that here: czcams.com/video/kf33xxBCs48/video.html
No. There are no bayer sensors or x-trans sensors. The same sensor can use bayer or x-trans mosaic, depending on the software photosite binding. X-trans captures as much detail as bayer, but the development in Lightroom might be an issue. I have talked about that in my X-H2 long term review.
@@akanbilincoln1307 Well, saying that full frame is a scam is a nonsense, there is no other way to say that. You are entitled to that opinion, but it is objectively a nonsense.
According to your test, the viewfinder is mediocre. So the only recommended use remains the external screen which is better and we lose the soul or the pleasure of the photographer who is to place his eye on the viewfinder. Damage
It is not mediocre, it is poor. Most people are fine with using the screen. If that is an issue for you, you will have to buy some other camera with better EVF.
The Viltrox 23/1.4 XF is not that great, too much CAs, it doesn't do the X-Trans Sensor justice, never when you use LR with ACR engine, use C1, Iridient....RawTherapee or DarkTable. The Fuji XF 23/F2 or 23/1.4 R are both way better than this Viltrox.
Not really, the CA is an issue only in close focus distances. Viltrox is completely fine for 26 MP sensor, specially in the center of the frame. There won't be visible difference in this kind of sample shots. I have also used light 3rd friendly lens on Sony as it matches the budget friendly theme of this comparison.
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*Additional notes:* Sony A7 III has 30 min. video recording limited, X-S20 is unlimited. X-S20 is more overheating resistant + you can use external fan connected to the backside of the camera. A7 III is relatively resistant to overheating as well, better than most current gen hybrid FF DSLMs.
I would be surprised if it does not overheat more than a7iii because They say it overheats after a few minutes of taking photos, is this true (the x-s20)?? Because in a video we saw it overheated in 30 minutes in 6k. in photo it is how many hours please?? Especially in temperature of 31°C daily because I would like to do 2 outdoor weddings in photo and some videos in full hd for tiktok. Thank you for answering 😊 and I subscribe
I have talked about that in my X-S20 video, it definitely didn't overheat after 30 minutes in my testing. I don't think that if will overheat at all if you only use it for photos, as long as you don't leave it in direct sunlight. If you need to use it in extreme conditions get that external fan.
@@TheHybridShooterthanks friend.
@@TheHybridShooterI avoid using this cooling gadget because if I pay for the x-s20 it's for its compactness and quality. Adding this thing again will just push me to buy a sony a7iv or an xh2 or one and I don't really want one. You have just reassured me and I am thinking of buying it tomorrow at the latest.
Would like to see a comparison between XS20 and a6700
interesting that nobody is putting this out since it seems the obvious competition!
So would I :)
@@vadergrd I would be happy to do that, but I don't have A6700.
@@Eyeofkamau The X-S20 has also an UHS II Slot
Ah aperture equivalence 😁. I agree that it is real, but in a comparison, you should only count for it once. Once you compare a crop sensor with a 1.4 lens to a full frame with a 2.8 lens, your crop sensor isn't shooting on higher iso with more noise anymore. 🤷. If you decided to compromise on image quality, your kit will be smaller. On both ff and crop. But buying ff and then compromising on immage quality makes little sense to me. 🤔
About the weather sealing on a7iii. I once fell into a sea withe the body with 85mm f1.8 attached. It was completely under water for some seconds before I managed to go out of the water. That was three years ago. All still very good, I still use the same setup until now in 2023.
The X-S20's video features for the price still is mind boggling to me. I paid almost 10 grand for a cinema camera back in 2017, that did not have a lot of the features that the X-S20 now does have for a fraction of that price. It is insane. It is so much cheaper nowadays to start a professional video company.
Absolutely.
Yes, but if on paid shoot, are you going to trust saving to only one card slot?
@@scotboy1297 In 11 years, I have never seen a card fail.
@@scotboy1297 To add to my point, I'd probably pick these X-S20 bodies for the more low-key social media type shoots or B-roll and such.
@@DigiDriftZone That indeed is somewhat a factor to me too, I can imagine some curious reactions, although as long as the end result is good, no cliënt is really gonna make that an issue of course. Assuming you are delivering to clients who aren't video producers themselves.
I own an A7 III for some years now and still recommend it. There may be more modern cameras out there available today, but for this price point it is a great camera to get into full frame. That was the reason I got it in the first place. I wanted the FF look and switched over from Fuji. Fujis are great cameras as well with a very unique look and feel to them which I still like a lot.
However, I find that the lens selection for Sony still is the most decisive factor for me. You can get cheap or expensive glass, compact lenses, lenses with incredible image quality and so on. There are lenses for every type of shooter and for all prices, too.
Therefore, I will stick with my A7 III. At some point I will probably switch to a more capable model like the A7 IV, but for now it does everything I want it to do. Since that is the case I will rather invest into good quality glass for now that I can use for many years.
I have a A7iv and I think the A7iii it's better.
Why do you think that? What's better?@@Carlos-mw5rw
No, A7 III is not better than A7 IV.
a7iii does not shoot 4k 120fps or fhd 240 fps..what do you say on this?
..xs20 at least shoot fhd 240 fps + 6k as well 25fps
@@Madhurmaithilichannel nothing really… both have advantages and disadvantages.
Again, another great comparative review from Hybrid Shooter. So refreshing to have a reviewer who utilizes technical specs & isn't trying to promote a camera--just because there are affiliate sales lurking in the background. Wish all the reviewers were like this with what I call "high ethical standards." Thanks again, informative & entertaining with clarity. 😎😎
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
I just got a X-S20. It is pretty incredible so far. It is my first camera and I am still trying to learn how to use it, can't wait until I get a better handle of the controls. I also heard that Sonys are more difficult and less user friendly which was a big determinant for me.
It is incredible the staying power of the a7 iii. Great battery life, it started the turn around Sony in many ways. I have the a7r ii, and a7ii. Would love an a7 iii. But the a7iii is a tough one to get used. It has held its value really well. Though technically my a7Rii will hold its own. I like the new 100 series battery. I adapt my Sonys to run the less costly Canon EF glass. I buy all used, or open box at the most. I shoot both Canon, and Sony. Some of the selections are emotional too. Silly yes, but I got a used 1DX, and 1D mk.4 and those are my only Canon cameras save for the used Canon C100 Cine Camera I have too. There is a theme here. Used Canon EF glass. All my cameras take them. I snuck in a 35 f2.8 E mount Tamron. Couldn't pass up the deal for a fun street lens. Works great on my a6400 too. Fujifilm is killing it with their fun simulations, I love that, but it isn't in my system. Not a fan of the XT series ergonomics for me anyway. An XS-20 looks fun but can't justify it. I can buy a used Nikon Z5 for less and an all arounder lens but again not in my system. Love your videos, been a fan for a long time.
Yep still using it happily in 2023 and will do so in 2024. Was way ahead of it's time.
Great video, a testament to both cameras that a top-of-the-line FF camera from 5 years ago and a new budget APS-C camera are worth comparing. The hybrid capabilities of DSLM's has come along massively in this time. Keep up the good work. Would be interested to see some Micro Four Thirds content if that interests yourself at all.
Pretty sure a7III was the entry level full frame.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 Not really, in Sony's system, older cameras are entry-level, so the original A7 was entry level back in 2018.
If that's true, then Fujifilm's entry camera would be the X-T20, not the X-S20.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 Not really again :) Fujifilm has dedicated entry level lines and they discontinue older cameras from entry level lines. Sony doesn't, their cameras just become entry level by getting older and they are only discontinued after two successors are out.
Awesome review, a great comparison.
Thank you!
Great comparison, and one I am dealing with at the moment. Love my A7iii with Tamron 28-200 lens as an all in one solution. My issue is the combined size and the fact I end up leaving the camera at home so often when I go out. If I could find a lens (size/equivalent) like the sigma 18-50 2.8 for the A7iii I would be happy. But, at this point the X-s20 with the sigma lens I feel would be a great carry with me all the time solution. Or Sony A6700. Not to worried about video specs.
What about the a6700?
@@movakalin5333 a6700 is about $400 more in my country, isn't available yet and I'm not to sure about the viewfinder placement. Also, I have a friend shooting with an old xt3 and I do like the film simulations/straight out of camera images.
@@nzkiwimonster The 28-60mm kit lens would be an option. The 18-50 is a 28-75mm f/4.2 equivalent. So the newer Sony kit lens is kinda close in terms of specs.
Question I've heard a lot of overheating issues that the x-s20 experiences and the fact that just scrolling down on the menu almost makes it overheat. Had you ever experienced something like this?
i am buying my first camera, been borrowing and renting for some time now, i love the feature set of the fuji , it fulfils all my needs with the photography as i mostly take landscapes, macros ( really getting into product shots ) and not a lot of portraits tbh, the fuji also gives me enough space to growth in terms of videos ( which i would love to do as some promo material ) i really loved the video but it got me more confused tbh specially now that i am thinking about lens selections and the full frame look ( i have been using a z5/z6 ii till now with some zooms and f1.8 primes ) should i just pull the trigger on the fuji or looking into the sony will be a good decision ?
In terms of lenses, well, Sony all the way. There's not necessarily a full frame or even a medium format look. It's just all down to equivalence. You can still get f/2.1 equivalent lenses on Fuji or f/1.4 equiv manual lenses from Laowa. You won't get the f/1.4 or f/1.2 equivalent looks on Fuji. E-mount has more affordable options, and equivalent lenses are almost always cheaper/lighter than APS-C. Just look at Sony 24-70GM2 vs Fuji 16-55 weight. Or Sony 24-105f4 vs Fuji 16-55. Or the new 20-70mm f/4 vs MFT Panasonic Leica 10-25mm f/1.7 (f/3.4 equiv).
That said, new Fuji primes are very well corrected, and you won't get the same kind of perfect IQ or performance in Sigma/Tamron lenses. So it's a tradeoff. The zooms are a little old and mostly are in need of updates.
1) Do you want perfect clean shots at a budget? Then Fuji. If you don't mind some chromatic aberrations, slightly softer corners but overall better sharpness/resolution, go Sony FF. Sharpness/resolution is related to lp/mm (lw/ph). Larger sensors almost always has better sharpness even with slightly softer lenses.
2) Fuji X-T5 does have pixel shift for macro or product shots. Sony only has it in the A7R5. But X-Trans files can be annoying if you don't use C1 (depends on personal tolerance).
3) Look into Fujifilm rants and Sony rants, especially from people in your area. Things like customer service, accessibility of service centres can be a consideration. Or user experience complains. Lots of people complained about X-H2(S) for 1 year before Fuji did some firmware updates about the ISO button.
Something in this video you may find very interesting. If you are on a 55” 4K TV like I am, Look at the sign “Gatto Matto Restaurant” @8:38 in the top right corner and watch the 4 second clip of the Fuji. The letters on the sign appear to be micro jittering as if they were added in post production via key framing. Of course they were not… so what do you think is happening here on the Fuji? 2 other people in this room confirm what I am seeing. Anyway, great point about the Low Pass filter on Sony @8:33 - Much less digital! I agree! Fantastic review! Much needed in the community! Thank you!
That probably has something to do with electronic stabilization. I have tested it on a couple of clips, with varying results.
I like seeing a head to head comparison with different sensor formats. Many reviewers seem reluctant to do so, but when they're the same price people might reasonably cross-shop them.
I LOVE your channel! I honestly have watched so man of your videos. Your honesty is wonderful. I want to mention my case here in case anyone else is in the same boat.
I am a long-time 35mm, medium format and former full frame shooter. I downsized to APS-C a while back and shoot mostly Fuji. I'm looking for a camera to do a few things.
1. As a second camera for my event work alongside my Fuji XH2s. The XH2s will serve for fast action and video. This camera would hold another lens for low-ish light portraits, though that is only 25% of what I do.
2. As a lightweight travel camera to do "occasional" wildlife, e.g. trips to nature areas where I often run into large birds or sometimes small song birds. This is only 30-40% of my travel need.
3. As a street photography camera, which is 70% of my need during travel.
My Fuji x-t30 ii - I love the IQ, have the lenses but struggle with sun and LCD, evf is a bit cramped but not as cramped as the Sony A7C, which I was considering.I The Fuji x-s20 seems like a baby XH2s (in some aspects only). Very appealing.
Choices can be overwhelming but ultimately, it must have a good viewfinder and be lightweight because as I turned 50, my eyes are not what they used to be and I have a former hand injury.
To give you perspective, the Fuji xh2s and the 70-300mm is feasible. Maybe when the sigma comes out I can handle a little more weight but not much more.
I guess I was leaning toward the Sony system for the size and AF, but I worry that the lenses might be too expensive or heavy and having to invest in new lenses seems daunting.
Obviously, I already have invested a lot in Fuji but also want a different "look" sometimes. I am torn between full frame "bokelish" and the unique Fuji look with added bonus of small body.
That’s a long comment to say that I will have the A7iii in my hands this weekend to test and if I cannot get on with it well, the Fuji x-s20 will be next.
One of the best and honest review so far
Loving my X-S20 so far. Would love to see how it compares to the new A6700.
Indeed. Will wait to get some more comparisons between these two before pulling the trigger.
Me too I want to buy one camera xs20 how much the cost is and what lenses do we get
Hi,
I must first thank you for teaching me a lot about the camera and various settings. But I have a question?. I'm looking at the Fujifilm X-S20 a bit and it seems to be a good camera. I don't want to spend too much money, between 1000 USD to 2000 USD max. I also wonder if the Fujifilm X-S20 fits the Crane m3. I will mostly film City walks, the Fujifilm X-S20 is probably not weatherproof. But is there anything in the same price that is weather-protected and delivers good image quality?
fuji x-t4
awesome review, I would go for fujifilm xs20 I like that portability small light frame for travel, high resolution display since I use display screen and viewfinder, wonderful simulations if I get lazy grading and whopping battery picture taking life 😊
The monitor resolution on the XS20 amd the ibis is so much better than the A7iii. I think because of the newer technology the eye af is also much better. I just got my XS20 and im in love with it. Sold my XT3, kept my XH1 which i may sell, but the XS20 is something else.
Am planning to buy my first camera. Usage is mostly for wildlife photography. Which one is the best ?
Go for one of the 40 mp Fuji or Sony A7 r cameras in order crop If necessary.
Amazing comparison- as always!!
Thank you!
You should have verified account mark 👍
Great video! :) Been using the XS20 for a few days now and found out there's no audio for footages I shot on 4K60p. Does anyone know how to fix this (if even possible)? Thanks!
In low light, is it equivalent to the Sony a7 iii ? I'm hesitating to switch from my a7 iii to the xs20
Thanks so much for this great comparison. Really helpful & down to the point
My pleasure, thank you for watching!
The new Fuji is smooth 😎❤️
Thanks for the interesting comparison. Plenty of good choices available these days.
Could you one day explain the different ISO systems "REI" & "SOS"
I have often heard Fuji ISO's are different but I don't understand why.
I think the X-S20 may be a big seller for the feature set, time will tell I suppose.
There is not much to explain, SOS has about 2/3 of a stop offset, so you have to use ISO higher by 2/3 of a stop on Fuji when comparing.
I sold the a7iii and bought the x-s20. Everything is better and faster.
Wonderful comparison and thank you for actually making this video
the xs20 looks like a great value
It sure is.
Can you upload some 4k/6k flog2 footage to see the difference in grade process , please? I do have Sony and want to buy xs20 but wondering how will be those camera matching together. Like S-log3 and f-log2
Thanks!
You are the main reason I am considering the purchase of the Sony A7 III (with the entry level kit lens FE 24 - 70 F4 OSS). If my objective is to decorate my house with prints as large as the resolution allows, would you advise to go for Sony or Fujifilm X-T5 (with the kit lens 18 - 55 F2,8-4)? Can a 24 megapixel full frame camera with a cheap lens provide equal/ better results than a 40 megapixel crop camera with a basic lens? Thanks
That depends a lot on the situations. You won't get particularly great results with either of those lenses. X-T5 will probably provide more detail at base ISO, but A7 III will be better at higher ISOs.
Adding on, having more megapixels may not help. Go read up on lens sharpness/resolution. Imatest has some nice documentation.
Simply put, the physically larger sensor will always result in a sharper print image at the same resolution and lenses of the same lp/mm. (line pairs per mm - often converted to line widths per picture height to compare different sensor formats)
Following numbers are just for demonstration and not scientifically accurate. Let's say you have a ultra sharp Fuji lens like the 18mm f/1.4 that resolves 91+lp/mm. 91 * 16 = 1456.
On a FF sensor you would only need a cheap lens resolving about 60lp/mm. Many lenses in the $500 range already exceed this performance.
Also, skip the 24-70 f4 lens. That's extremely old and underwhelming. Buy body only and a 28-60mm kit lens both used if you can. See if you can get a Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 used if possible.
@@professionalpotato4764 40 MP vs 24 MP is enough difference to beat the pixel density advantage, though. In my testing, the need for super high quality glass for 40 MP APS-C sensor doesn't seem to be as dramatic as we thought. I have been getting very solid results even with pretty average lenses.
What is the lens with the X-S20 at 1:21 in the video?
Pergear 50mm
How do u open these Mov files in premiere pro?? Mine doesnt work with the footage shot in 422 10 bit all I Mov shot on xs-20
amazing!
Thank you!
I would be curious to see a comparison with the a7IV on 4K videos
great comparison, thanks!
I like this video, because this photo (CHỢ ĐÊM NINH KIỀU on the picture) is from my hometown, Vietnam, where I live and I am passionate about photography and filming.
Bratislava? I have recognised it straight away,, I'm from Slovakia,,,,nice comparison btw,, I'm actually torn between these two, which one to get
Thank you, yes it is Bratislava.
Beautiful Bratislava . I was there this spring.
I’m glad that you liked it!
comparison video? I'm going to make tea :)
Great! Now waiting for your A6700 review
I have the Sony a7, a7ll, Fujifilm SX20. I want the Sony A7lll also. I love them all. ❤
Question - XS20 is good for mid-amateur astrophotography?
Both are great cameras...very hard to decide...i am not interested in video features...I never touched the video button, I'm only interested in stills...so I think the XS 20 is the winner..five years counts...
the main question is what about overheating? Can the XS20 shoot 4k 25 at 25 degrees Celsius for more than 2 hours?
Take a look at my X-S20 review. I have only tested it up to 1 hour.
thank you! i am thinking about upgrading to A7C from A6500
but still waiting for maybe a release of A7CII in maybe August?
I have no idea, I don't follow rumors that much anymore.
While you waiting you do any thing 👎
@@felixlechat1780 im not traveling until nov so i have plenty of time
prolly in the Autumn. I also an waiting for the A7C II as, for me, compactness is the most important, along with video specs.
@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 yes im thinking of similar things. And from what they showed in the a6700 im expecting something close if not better on the a7cii. Anyways im saving up to get it if it comes soon enough :)
Very detailed movie. Thank You!
Video specs of XS20 so much better. A7iii real advantage would be low light.
Any thoughts on which to choose between the X-S20 and the X-H2S?
Those are cameras from completely different classes, so it depends on how you intend to use it.
The stacked sensor in the XH2s makes the difference when shooting fast.
Thanks for the video
My pleasure!
Weird how no one has done a X-S20 vs A6700 yet, that be way more interesting seeing how they are in a similar price bracket, the A7III is still pretty close to the A6700 in price in Europe.
Getting both review units at the same time is very difficult for an average camera reviewer, buying both doesn't make much sense, so not weird at all from my point of view.
I am so confused now.. Just came yo know about Fuji xs-20. I was about to buy the a7c... And was almost convinced. Now confused again 😅
Fuji really needs to up it game when it comes to auto focus in video.
Good and useful test, never thought about it but it makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
(and don't mind about the fanboys on both "sides" - fanboyism is a plague)
I would love if you review the Nikon Z8
Unfortunately, that is not possible.
I couldn’t find the a7iii remote close to 2000 in Germany lol. The xs 20 is just 1400€
Edit: i found some but its hard to find them
Yeah, you need to be lucky to get it cheaper in the EU. US prices are much better.
You can buy Sony-alpha-7-iii + fe-28-70mm-oss combo for under 1500.- € in Germany today. I am seriously tempted :-)
3:49 is that Can Tho, Vietnam?
It is in Vietnam, but I don't know the name of the city.
@@TheHybridShooter yeah that's Can Tho City, I've been there couple times, great place for night photography and landscape, especially on the floating market where you can really test the detail of the images
Thank you for the comparison! There are some weird wobbly parts in the X-S20 video footage, most noticeably at 8:28 (trees and the river bank) and also at 10:37 (trees). Was this due to digital image stabiliser or something else? I haven't noticed this problem in any other X-S20 reviews.
You’re welcome! I don't really know to be honest, I will look into it. Those clips were shot with pre-production FW, so there might have been something wrong with that. It may also be some exporting / compression issue.
I appreciate that you call out Fuji iso shenanigans. No one else comments on how Fuji underexposes, this creating a misleading iso. So, when exposure is adjusted, Sony iso performance is actually closer to 1 2/3 stops, which is massive. Considering that, a FF 1.8 will outperform a Fuji 1.2 in low light when comparing the actual results of the image...and a Samyang 1.8 on sony is going to be worlds smaller and up to 4x cheaper than a Fuji 1.2.
Those are not shenanigans or attempts to mislead, SOS is actually an older ISO scale than REI, Panasonic and Pentax use it as well. It is simply like comparing kilometer and miles.
Sony is better by 1 EV and some change.
@@TheHybridShooter I'm not just talking about the numbers, I'm talking about the numbers AND underexposure.
@@balboa0621 I have never had issues with underexposed images on Fujifilm, it just uses higher ISO values than REI cameras would
@@TheHybridShooter sure, and there is the noise penalty associated with doing that.
I'm a long time Fuji user who still has thousands invested in the system, but I appreciate you actually doing this. I also appreciate your frank discussion about lens size when equivalence is factored in. I bought a used a7c and some Samyang tiny lenses recently. A Fuji with comparable weather sealing, ibis, and that battery life paired with the viltrox 27 1.2 would be much bigger, heavier, and twice as expensive as I spent on an a7c with the 45 1.8. Considering that, why wouldn't I switch?
@@balboa0621 There is no noise penalty, you will get the same amount of noise that you would get with Sony APS-C in the same situation. It is just a different number, nothing else.
6:20 This guy walks towards you in the night, your actions will be:
a) get on your knees and pray
b) give him all the money you have
c) sell your soul for 99 cents
Don’t both of these have overheating issues?
No.
@@TheHybridShooter So why does the S20 have a cooling fan accessory? Just wondering as other reviewers claim these things can run hot.
For extreme situations. Every camera will overheat in direct sunlight for example, but it doesn’t mean that it has overheating issues.
when are you making long-term review of Viltrox 16mm f1.8 ?
I have a sony a7iii, and only one lens tamron 28-75mm f2.8 Original lens/first generation, and want to buy a wide lens now, but i am really confused with viltrox one i mean according to you is it worth spending $500 on that lens ?
I don’t intend to make a long term review, I don’t really have a reason to do so. Yes, I would recommend it even if it was $1000.
@@TheHybridShooter okay then let me consider it then, the only weird thing to me is that little screen on the lens, can you let me know hows the battery life of camera does the display takes too much of battery ?
@@gautampratap1345 Consumption of that display is totally negligible.
Denoiser in PS Raw plug-in solves the problem of smaller sensors. This tool is a game changer
No, it is isn't, various denoisers have been around for many years. You can use denoiser on full frame, get better result and you are back where you started.
my pc can't handle 6k open gate.Want to sale my xs20 😢
In terms of lenses, while Sony has many options there are a few options in the aps-c field that Sony FF can't match from a price and size/weight perspective such as the sigma 18-50 2.8 for Fuji. That lens is half the size of any FF 24-70 type lens and is just as bright amd sharp. If you can afford it i generally recommend a full frame for portraits and work and then Fuji for travel where you have thousands of pictures andqybe you dont want to edit them all and you want something more compact and travel friendly.
That is a common misconception. 18-50 F2.8 is not comparable to full frame 24-70mm F2.8 by any means. It absolutely isn´t as bright as FF F2.8, that has been explained million times over. It also sacrifices wide-end to achieve that size and price.
I have addressed that here: czcams.com/video/kf33xxBCs48/video.html
What about canon R8?
Lack of IBIS and 3rd party RF lens ban makes it totally uninteresting for me.
@@TheHybridShooterfor all People 😊
Fuji 0.59 magnification EVF is more an instrument of torture than any use
At 100% enlargement the Beyer APS-C Sensors of Sony and Fuji are much more sharp and a little bit more contrast as the X-Trans sensors.
No. There are no bayer sensors or x-trans sensors. The same sensor can use bayer or x-trans mosaic, depending on the software photosite binding.
X-trans captures as much detail as bayer, but the development in Lightroom might be an issue. I have talked about that in my X-H2 long term review.
As a photocamera Sony a7Iii will be still better.
Depends...
@@TheHybridShooter you said the same at your video) and demonstrated it with Af speed test with Fuji lose. We should be honest.
@@mex5341He said on photography the autofocus is basically the same? On the video side there was a difference where sony is still surpassing the fuji
@@mex5341 You should probably rewatch the video.
Good review, sir.
But, in my own opinion, Fujifilm xs20 is a very far better camera 📷, Full frame its a scam.
Thank you, but your option is nonsense, sorry.
@TheHybridShooter
You don't sound professional. You are very rude. I'm entitled to my opinion. How can you tell me that my opinion is nonsense?
@@TheHybridShooteri
@@akanbilincoln1307 Well, saying that full frame is a scam is a nonsense, there is no other way to say that. You are entitled to that opinion, but it is objectively a nonsense.
@@akanbilincoln1307sorry bro but he’s not lying
A comparison between XS20 and a6700 would make much more sense;)
Feel free to make one.
According to your test, the viewfinder is mediocre. So the only recommended use remains the external screen which is better and we lose the soul or the pleasure of the photographer who is to place his eye on the viewfinder. Damage
It is not mediocre, it is poor. Most people are fine with using the screen. If that is an issue for you, you will have to buy some other camera with better EVF.
Sony a6700 is around the same price and has way better features than both.
No, that is not true. All of them have specific advantages and disadvantages.
better? 😂
Fuji apsc cameras are way better than Sony apsc cams , it competes with sony full frames cams
@@Libinkttm That is not true either.
They are not head-to-head competitors. A6700 is more appropriate to be compared with xs20.
That’s not an issue.
The Viltrox 23/1.4 XF is not that great, too much CAs, it doesn't do the X-Trans Sensor justice, never when you use LR with ACR engine, use C1, Iridient....RawTherapee or DarkTable. The Fuji XF 23/F2 or 23/1.4 R are both way better than this Viltrox.
Not really, the CA is an issue only in close focus distances. Viltrox is completely fine for 26 MP sensor, specially in the center of the frame. There won't be visible difference in this kind of sample shots. I have also used light 3rd friendly lens on Sony as it matches the budget friendly theme of this comparison.
Should have chosen Lumix S5ii instead of Sony A7iii
Feel free to choose whatever you want to.
um….. this Fuji was released like… yesterday, and the Sony is already a 5+ years old… I don’t get this comparison at all…
It is explained in the first 30 seconds of the video + it was highly requested.
@@TheHybridShooterprice is not the only important factor when we compare things 😃
@isavkov The video wouldn't be 17 minutes long if I was only comparing prices 🙂
@@isavkov I don't get your comment at all...
I welcome such reviews as I never buy when brand new, my question is has a modern APSC caught up with FF if / when I buy second hand ?
lmao 2018 camera vs 2023 camera, no debate this video is unecessary
Actually, this is the most watched video in the first hour that I have posted in a very long time, so your opinion seems to be incorrect.
@@TheHybridShooteruhhhhh kill em
Go to sleep
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