35" Pizza Cutters on My FJ Cruiser - New Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT 255/85R17 Tires
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Hey everyone! Welcome to another episode of LET'S FJ!
Today I record my thoughts and impressions as a switch from 315/70R17 BFGoodrich KO2 All-Terrain tires to 255/85R17 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT tires. I'm excited for this change since the wider tires have always been a hassle to run without rubbing but I've always heard that there are benefits to running "Pizza Cutter" tires (narrow off-road tires) and I figured they would be a much better fit for my TRD 17x7" wheels.
Hope this video helps you out and here is a link to those tires:
www.mickeythom...
One goof in the video is I say the wrong weight for the tires, I should have said 64 lbs for each tire.
Thanks for watching, liking, and subscribing! Comment below if you have any thoughts or questions!
FJX2000
Always preferred a narrower tire off-road. More psi applied to the ground for increased grip. I run a 255/80/17. Love the idea of the 255/85/17 and hoping some other manufacturers jump on board. Would love some C and D rated options to shave some weight also. Looks great!
Thanks for the input! Yeah the increased weight on the smaller contact patch must be the ticket!
@@FJX2000_Productions yea I think so, especially on a lighter vehicle. Allot of people think wider contact patch, more grip… but in something without a ton of weight behind it, it’s just not the case. They might help you “float” over some terrain, but it’s definitely not ideal for “grip”
Hey man you said the tire of the weight are 42 lbs something for that size 255 85 17? I think your wrong that size is 63 lbs each tire. And yhe 285 70 17 SL they are 44 lbs.
Actually that's not even right. Tire contact patch is determined primarily by outer diameter, and tire pressure. A test was done where two equal diameter tires of 255 vs 305mm width were set at the same pressure and had their contact patch surface area measured and they were almost identical. The patterns were different though, the wider tire had a more horziontal contact patch, while the narrower tire had a more vertical contact patch. Due to the same tire pressure but narrower width, the narrower tire will flex more than the wider tire, so an equivalent amount of tire will be in contact.
if its wearing out in the center like that might want to lower your psi, its probably what is causing that problem.
He just got done explaining he put the wrong tire size on the wrong size rim
crazy I've run this combo before without centering. It's from running tire specs air pressure and manufacturer recommendation. With this setup have to run a little lower pressure. The new tire will make it less likely to center though. He can run recommended pressures. But it's not a wrong combo.
More air pressure issue than wheel combo
It’s a thin wheel problem. Also a PSI problem more more that the tire is too wide for the wheel.
@@ragscrazy9683it’s 100% from running the tire pressure too high. By lowering your pressure it will not push out the center so much. Have you ever tried a chalk test????
I know this video is old, but these are not 43lb tires. Mickey Thompson advertises these tires as being 64lbs each.
I think you made an excellent choice of tire size, people always think wider is better with tire size but I think you will find many benefits with that size! If more people bought that size more tire manufacturers would produce them!
They have 85’s!!! I was going to get 255/80’s for my Ranger but an 85!!!! I’m buying some soon, very soon! Thank you for posting!!!
That’s fantastic, congrats! The tires look “correct” on your FJ, if that makes sense… 👍👍
They look great ! Hoping you can give us an update how they perform on some trails.
I will be offroading next week and will be able to give you all an update then!
How is the road noise on asphalt?
@@robertsteele8838 nice and quiet so far!
Niiiiice ! ... big thanks for this. I was about to compromise with 35in or 255/80 ridge grapplers. And even tho I was stoked to stay brand loyal to nitto, these M/T check all the boxes for bad ass pizza cutters 🤘🏼
Appreciate this video. This is the exact tire I was looking for and it's even severe snow service rated which is critical for where I live. Thank you.
Same here for the snow! Glad it can help!
Best tire review ever!!!! Love the look on your rig.
Nice ride! Definitely an anti hydroplane tire. I bet you can hit some deep puddles at 80 mph without hydroplaning. I wish they would make these 10 inch wide in 37 or 38 diameter which I will be buying. Also that is an insanely light tire for a 35 inch at 40 some pounds! which should improve high speed offroad handling and mpg. For comparison this exact tire the Baja Boss AT at 37x12.5xR17 which is next size bigger on diameter comes in at 80 pounds!
Looks supercool. I do not want to go 35s with mine, 33" I recon is maximum. One guy in my country uses ST Maxx's 255/80 R17s that is about 33" tire. The most important is he ensures that in an FJ with a 2 in. lift you do not need to BMC nor using spacers with these rubbers (in some countries spacers are not allowed).
Very excited to see these in action.
Check out my recent offroading video to see that!
Love that they make that size. Tall but skinny. Too bad they do not make any 16” sizes as I have 16x7” rims. Would love to see how it clears the UCA and frame with no spacer. The clearance to the fender should improve along with steering feel with less scrub.
Mounting wide tires on narrow wheels has been used as a poor-man's beadlock for years. Typically you would reduce the inflation pressure to get the treads to wear even, but that won't work with TPMS unless you can tolerate the warning light on all the time. Thanks for validating my decision to skip the fender flares. 🙂 The new tires would sit about flush with the body without the flares. I'd like to see it without spacers and flares. I like the antenna mount on the back door hinge, who sells that?
Hey guy as an old school off reader there was a real good reason the original jeep had pizza cutters on it actually three lolpattern was thin high grip and quickly cleaned itself as the tires spun up.and through testing they chose the size the did because of what they thought. Was most responsive. With the small engine and light vehicles involved
What reasons are they?
Make sure you do the chalk test to find the perfect tire pressure. Congratulations on your tires! I’m so excited to go to this same exact size!
Yeah I've been looking for some chalk so I can do the test soon! Haha thanks though and good luck with them on your setup!
@@FJX2000_Productions go shake down a neighborhood kiddo.
Contact Mickey Thompson's Technical Department to get the appropriate on-road inflation pressure. Make sure you have the O.E. tire size and O.E. tire inflation pressure(s) as listed on the vehicle placard when you call.
I'm. Putting these tired on my gladiator next time I need to change tires. Mts are awesome got the mud terrains now and they are kick ass. But I like the slight taller and thinner look and better off road capabilities
Same here: 2023 Gladiator Mojave.
I would love to see a follow up tire review on these Baja Boss AT tires now that you’ve ran them awhile!!
LOOKS SOOO GOOOD!!!!!! I BEEN EYEING THE 85 SERIES ON FOR MY SILVERADO 2WD, BUT NEED A LIFT FIRST. THE NEXT GO AROUND I WOULD LIKE THAT SIZE ON IT. ... WELL DONE
duuuuuude thank you so much.. You answered all my questions in one video! I'm over here having a hard time figuring out all kinds of sizes for my 17x7.5 wheels and you just show up with your old 315/70/17 on 17x7 LOL! FJX2000 1 - 0 Internet. I'm on a Jeep WK so I'm gonna have to go happy with my grinder to make these 35 pizza cutters fit. I'm jealous of all that clearance even without the 3" lift.
Really glad I could help! They have been a great tire but I'm really looking forward to testing their winter-time performance! But its awesome my experience helped you with your wheel/tire size questions!
Awesome channel!! Subscribed! I was just thinking of getting pizza cutter 35s for my 4runner
Nice looking rig. Pizza cutters are the way! Those are 34’s though. 255 X .85 X 2 then divide by 25.4 to convert mm to inches. Then add 17” for the rim = 34”
Yep you are right, though the website claims they are a 35x10R17 when you actually measure them when installed they come out to 34" which is actually great in my opinion 👌
@@FJX2000_Productions They look awesome!
When inflated to max inflation pressure (80psi), on the measuring rim (7.0"), off the vehicle, the circumference should come out at 34.6".
I put 305/70/17 nitro ridge grapplers on my fj.34 .and it rides so much better then my 33x12.50 I had on.my nittos 33.86 but measure little over 34 on truck and are about 12.3 wide
Skinny tires are good for rock crawling with okay in wet conditions. In snow and mud and sand wider tires are the way to go.
Great video as usual. Sort of funny those old tires I sold you lasted that long and with that crazy wear pattern. I'm excited to see how you like those new Baja tires and how they do on the trails.
I wish you would have compared the tires side by side while mounted on the rim. They do look like an awesome tire though.
I'd like to see how the clearance issue is without the spacers.
Awesome tire size and model choice. Congratulations ✌️
i run 255/80r17 wildpeak at3w on my truck for the daily. i have some swampers in a 34x10.50/17 for the dedicated wheeling. both on stock 17x8 wheels. i am looking at the mt tires as they are the same size as the swampers. buuuut, i'l be doing 35x10/17 swampers next. the skinny tires work so well off road.
I have the same rims on my 14, love pizza cutters and am in need of new tires. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thx
Glad I could help!
That looks perfect with the bushwhackers
Thanks!
Farm tractors here in SoCal after it rains tracks through the thickest of mud with ease using tall skinny tires.
I'm hoping to do the same just in 16inch looks great 👍
Did your mpg improve after switching to narrower tires?
Looks very nice
Looking at this exact tire and size for my 4runner, some true tall skinnies. These look sweet, hope to hear an update from you
Was just thinking that too! The 5th Gens hate wide tires, not necessarily tall tires. I would love to see if these fit a lifted 5th Gen!
I've been running 255/80's and they have been great. Definitely going to give these a look and the 35x10.50 Kenda's as well.
Check your paint under those fender flares. They (fender flares in general) and have a tendency to scratch down to the metal sometimes. I sent mine back before I installed them.
Believe me I know all about it haha I bought the FJ with them already on and they had already worn down to the metal, so either I take them off and get a ton of the FJ repainted or I just keep them on 🤷♂️
Very nice
Got them for my Jeep and will buy another one for my wifes 2012 FJ :)
Glad to hear it! Not many folks have them!
My wife is going to be getting me a set of these trd wheels in a couple days. I am running 285/70/17’s right now I am hopping that I will not have such a issue with roasting the center of my tires. 🤔.
Nice video! Did you ever upgrade your gears from stock to run your Baja Boss tires? If so, what did you go to? 4.10, 4.56, 4.88?
On our 4R we went with the Micky Thompson MTZ P3 in the 35x12.5r17 and love them. I think the stance and look on yours looks really good as well.
Do you notice it stays in RPM range better with the skinnier tire compared to the wider tire?
The tall tires look good on the FJ. Got a high center of gravity now.
True, that's one reason to add wheel spacers, to try and give the FJ a little more balance.
On my new 2023 Tacoma TRD off road model truck i plan on removing the 265/70R16 tires and putting on either 245 or 255/85R16 pizza cutter style tires.
Nice! Pizza cutters are a cool choice, and perhaps a better choice than wider tires for sure!
This will be amazing in the snow
They have been!
There was a brand years made a 35x10.50. But havent seen em in years.....this is good info.
Thanks! Yeah since then I have found a couple similar sized tires, with some companies even offering 34x10.50R17, which is more true to the size of this tire.
I love those Mickey Thompsons but OOF they're a bit expensive.
Love me some skinnies… those look amazing!
43 lbs is very light, are you sure about that? The Cooper ST MAXX 255/85/16 were like 60 pounds on my Taco
I cannot remember if I weighed them or not, so I'm not sure!
MT website says 64lbs for that size which sounds right for the size and E rated tire. Awesome tire I'm buying the same size for my HZJ75! Thanks for the video man
What psi did you end up running on these? Just got a set of the Baja bosses and love them so far. Smooth ride and pretty quiet for a 35".
255/85/17 is a 34x10.
I’m running 255/80/17 which is a 33x10. Love pizza cutter tires!
I would not inflate the tires past the recommended psi from Toyota's suggestion; on the side of the door jam or glove box with VIN. It is also part of the suspension! 👍
So my 2008 Trail Teams Special Edition originally came with the 16” TRD wheels and 265/75R16 BF Goodrich KO All Terrain Tires, and because of that there actually is an additional sticker in the door jam about special inflation instructions for the TRD wheels and that’s where the 46 psi comes from. But once you change the tires to a different style or size, and especially if you do what I did and change the 16” TRD wheels for the 17” TRD ones I have now, then those manufacturer psi suggestions are thrown out the window. So since making this video I just run at 30-35 psi
This video couldn't have come at a better time. 👍 How do they feel on the road? Do you notice a difference in weight? I need new tires and these look to be a great option. I just wonder if 8.5" wide wheels are too wide for 255s.
Going from the wider to the more narrow tire the throttle definitely feels more responsive and it feels pretty good on the road like I have better handling. So I'm already happy with my decision!
Want those for my alumiduty. I never haul anything but the snow performance should be good
Hmm I’m thinking about going 255
Use the chalk test to set street pressures, not some tpms system designed for a different tire size. Love my pizza cutters.
Sounds crazy, but wish I could get the wildpeak 6 ply (lighter tire than the 10) in this size for my GX. LOVED those tires on my 4R, don't do any sharp rocks or anything wild.
Wondering what you thought about these tires after having them for a few years. My dad has the Baja Boss tires on his tundra and he feels like the tire wore down pretty quickly and he will have to look for new tires sooner than usual. Im wondering if you experienced the same thing.
If that's an E Load Range LT in 255/85-17, then that tire weighs 63 lbs. [EDIT: I see your correction. Forgive me] How much does that TRD wheel weigh? Prob somewhere between 25-30 lbs... so your wheel/tire assemblies weigh +/- 89 or 90 lbs each.
Overall, though! that is one sweet tire/wheel combo. I'm looking to do this on my 2" lifted F150 but will prob need to cut the front axle "crash bars". Thanks for posting this! FJ looks great.
Thanks for sharing! I would have to weight the wheel and tire to see for sure what it weighs but hopefully it isn't too much more than your prediction.
Thanks for the video. Awesome 👌
How many miles did you get from these? That’s an awesome looking tire, I’m looking to put these on my Tacoma
hey, Doc... you've had the pizza cutters for a a few years. How do you like them after all this time?
This taught me so much.
Glad to help!
Do you think you would need a bmc at all with those tires?
Hi, now that you've had these pizza cutters for awhile, do you ever find them rubbing at all and do you think these would work without having to do a body mount chop since they're more narrow? I have a Bilstein 3 inch lift, and I ask because I just got my frame replaced and the new one powder coated and don't want to leave any parts of the new frame exposed to the elements. Thanks, man, and great video!!!!
I have 234 k on my fj and it runs like new
man I love those new Baja Boss A/T's... just waiting for them to launch the 285/70R17 configuration later this year, looking at these for my 5th gen 4Runner. How loud are they, if at all....
Been really quiet so far! Very pleased with them!
Same here, although I am now wondering if I could make these work!
Hey@FJX2000 love the vids always great info but i have a question. When we got our FJ it didn't have a roof rack so i tried finding an OEM replacement (HA!) but the ones they we got were either warped it seems like?? Or were not up to par. Do you have any recommendations on a good functional rack?
Indeed I do! Check out this thread I did that compares some aftermarket roof racks. Just get what you think you want for your needs. I have a Baja Rack basket style rack currently and it is pretty nice, but I like the look of flat racks better. www.fjcruiserforums.com/threads/new-complete-roof-rack-comparison.633673/
Si it’s been about a year since this video and I’m curious to know how you’ve liked this new size compared to the old wider 35s. On the road and off-road. Would you go back to the original 35 size?
Leave the bushwackers on and take the spacers out and you will get less mud on the side windows in sloppy weather? I always look at the practical side.
Great video 👍🏼
I have them in 295/70R-18LT E on my F-150. I tried for 3 months to get the 35x10R-17 but was unable to buy them anywhere. I would be interested to see how you get along with them.
They have been good so far, off road, on road, and in the snow!
I'm considering the exact same change. BFG 35/12.5 R 17 to the tires in your video.
Big question - road noise. Thoughts?
Nice
Thanks!
You should be running lower psi with larger tires. Even on the street. And yes , the tires are way too wide for the rim. My 265s are the absolute Max for my 7.5 inch wide rims .
255 85 is almost exactly a 34 inch.
Definitely doesn’t look good but as long as it performs
How have they held up?
How have they been holding up? Have you gotten into any snow?
So far so good! But no snow experience yet!
I am thinking about doing the same setup but curious what the TRD Pro wheels off set is? Would you change anything looking back at it now? Thanks - Red
Isn't part of your tire wear problem, the tire pressure you're running? Should your tpm system be calibrated to the moded tire size? Maybe get new tpm ?
Very true, since this video I now just run at a lower/better tire pressure and I added a switch to get my TMPS light turned off since the OEM TPMS system cannot be calibrated for my model year
You measured 43.2 lbs on a scale but everywhere online says 64.3 lbs?
How is the mpg wide vs pizza cutter?
Did you regear?
So are you running spacers with the 255 85 17? Would they still fit without the spacer with the TRD wheels? Im planning to go with same setup on mine
I am running 1.25" Spidertrax wheel spacers, and I think they would fit but I've never tested it.
im looking at this exact setup, I run Bilstein 6112 with 2.75 ish lift. Im currently on 285/75 R17 (33) and no rub at all on stock 07 FJ 7 inch wheels, do you think you could have put the pizza cutters on with NO body chop mod and not rubbed ? Thanks
Just to make sure you have 285/75R17 tires currently? Not 285/70R17? If you do have 285/75R17s, then you might be just fine with the 255/85R17 size, but it could be close, hard to tell until it is installed.
@@FJX2000_Productions thank you.
How are the tyres going? Have you had a chance to test them on some off road trails?
Just got back from doing the Alpine Loop here in Colorado, no problems on any of the trails I did at 25 psi!
Shouldn't you be running 35 psi on the road?
Wonder if they come in a 33 inch tire?
Why wonder? Be resourceful.
@@Icutmetal I thought I was by asking in the hopes he might know as he has on various other questions on this site.
33x12.50 only right now I think
He linked the website in the description. There's a chart with all the available sizes.
@@jprime5128 late to the party😄
The pizza cutters look so much better than the fatty’s
your BFG K02s were overinflated. should do a chalk test... forget what is recommended when you change tire sizes.
How’s the wear on these tires? Also do you get better traction off road than the Ko2?
Did you have to regear your FJ after installing this 35" tire?
I have not regeared my FJ but it would certainly help!
Did you ever check fitment without the wheel spacers? That would be really sweet if those tires are skinny enough to avoid using wheel spacers with the TRD Pro rim
Unfortunately I haven’t checked it! But if I had to guess they probably would work 🤷♂️
Did you say these weigh 46lbs? That seems really light. I would be super excited if that’s the weight and would go get some tomorrow.
Web site says 64 pounds he is wrong as hell
8-9 week national backorder on these now!
It was a long back order on their website too but then I ordered them and had them in less than a week, I guess they had this size sitting around ready to go!
I know this vid is about a year old, but you mentioned these 255s are only 43lbs?! The website lists them at 64 lbs. If you see this comment, is it indeed only 43-45lbs on that tire?
This question probably got answered, but, does anyone know if this size of wheel will fit a stock FJ without doing a lift or BMC?
The wheels will, but not the tires probably
@@FJX2000_Productions whoops! Meant to say tires. Wondering if spacer lifts would help? Trying to not break the budget 😅
@@GamingHouseCinema so I would recommend checking out my video about how to fit all different size of tires of FJs, it will answer all the questions you could probably have! And I also have a video series explaining all the ins and outs of lift kits. But in general you should be able to fit a 33” tire on a 3” lift without much of a problem, even if that is a spacer lift. But these tires in the video are 34” so it makes it a bit more complicated. Stuff like a bmc becomes more necessary
So these tires really only weigh 43 or 44 lbs? MT website says 63 lbs.
Great video. How are the tires holding up after a few months? On road / off road? Thanks
I’ve been really pleased with them both on and off road! If you see my video history you’ll see some off-roading in Colorado with these tires and it turned out great!
@@FJX2000_Productions cool. I just came across your channel, I will definitely check them out. I was looking at these tires for my jeep gladiator.
@@MilkBone3327 wonderful! Yeah I have been happy with them and would recommend them for sure.
40 psi will wear unevenly in my 4runner. 35 or less for you
Five months later how do you like these tires ? I’ve been wanting to get these so bad.
I still really like them! Cant wait for some solid winter weather and snow to test them out in though