Mickey Thompson BAJA BOSS AT - Long Term Review
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2022
- After 17,000 Km including a trip to the red center, we pinned down the crew for a trip down one of our favorite spots in Tasmania for the Long Term Review of the Mickey Thompson BAJA BOSS AT.
Really impressed with this tyre and they have held up impressively well. We have also included a "back to the studio" comparison section with the worn Baja up against a basically brand new tyre.
Like always, if you have these tyres and put some serious km's on them, we would love to hear from you. Comment below or head over to our website and leave your review. With Pictures if possible! We would love to see your rigs..
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Timestamps:
0:20 - Intro
0:46 - Getting Stuck
3:24 - Actual Review
7:32 - Uluru Trip
9:30 - Tyre Closer Look
14:26 - Studio Comparison
17:40 - Back on the Highway (closing thoughts)
22:40 - The Big Question!!
Cheers! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Two weeks ago 35x12.50 Baja Boss went on my 4d Jeep JK, these are extreme quiet, and comfortable too as if new shocks came with the tires too. No traction problem, or loss control and very steady in the snow, and for the last 3 days ICE. I don't buy things for looks, but what provides the best performance, and function. The last set of tires I had were the BAJA ATC P3, and these new set of tires from mickey Thompson are a lot better.
great review, I've been looking forward to seeing what they are like ,
Good review! Have a set in my truck now, can’t wait to see their full potential!
Awesome! Let me know how they go!
Having a set installed on my 200 early next week. The advice from Tyre Review has been invaluable. Thanks JR
I also appreciate all of the advice from Tyre Review! I'm getting a set of 37" MT Baja Boss AT installed on my JLUR next week.
Hey mate
How have you found these tyres on your 200? I’m looking at putting them on my 200 also.
Great review thanks. Have a set going on the f250 Monday
These tires are amazing in snow and ice! Extremely good off-road and on wet tarmac. The down side is increased fuel consumption on dry Highway. If you can live with that, they may be the best A/T available.
About how many MPGs did you lose with these tires?
@@tylerswanson6578 I lost about 2 mpg or added nearly 3L/100km going from a smaller 34" BFG KO2.
Excellent feedback Fabulous!
If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for them on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card, wherever you live 🤘
I’m looking to put these on a 2500. But I’m looking to put these on in the stock tire size. You still think I’d lose MPGs??
@@harrisonfowler4461 maybe 1 mpg if they are standard size.
I looked at a lot of different tires about 5 months ago, I wanted something that was good off road as well on road and good towing too and not be to heavy. And after talking to a few people and friends I went with the Toyo open country R/T trails. The Toyo R/T trails are very good on road as well as off road and they handle towing very well just as good as any other tire I have had. The Toyo R/T trails are very good in snow, ice, mud, and sand and soft deep dirt. They do not hold stones at all. And they are surprisingly good in red clay mud. If you make your own roads off road this tire can can do it but the M/T will work better. The Toyo tire is a 2 ply sidewall, but it’s extra thick. It gives you the durability and strength of a three ply sidewall without the extra weight and stiffness. And I’m very happy with them, I did have a A/T tire before and the Toyo R\T trail I think is better then a A/T on and off road.
Who says the sidewall is as strong as 3 ply?
I’ve just put these tires on my levelled single cab f150 33/12.5r17 for winter driving in Alberta Canada, I ran the M/T baja Boss tires all summer on some amazing off road mountain terrain and they were very impressive, way to go Mickey Thompson
That's excellent! Someone else asked about the differences between the BBAT and MT - how are they for the difference in noise, traction etc, from someone going directly between the two?
What engine does your truck have and what does the fuel mileage look llike with them on?
@nitroxrunsthrume how are you liking these so far? Thinking of throwing a set of these on a Hummer H2. 👋🏻 from Red Deer area!
I priced them for my Isuzu and unfortunately they were out of my pay scale , shame as I think they would be good . Went with wildpeaks at half the price and they work well but are cut and chipped very badly after 25k . Think the VHC caused that.
Love your reviews , best in the business .
Definitely considering these my top pick for a 1500 Silverado.
I’ll probably run the Baja in the winter and all season or highway tread in the summer
2011 Tacoma been running them 285/75/16, had them in everything with no trouble, great tire
Ty so much TR
I'm sold, this year's Xmas present before we head up Vic High Country...
Got a set of them on a 2019 chevy colorado zr2 diesel and love them so far. About 6k miles on them, on dirt and muddy roads daily. Lots of wet highway driving, tiny amount of ice/snow. They're great! Hope to get long life out of them. Definitely at the top of my list for next set when the time comes.
Do you like them better then your stock good year wrangler duratrac
@@eric69parentYes! The Baja Boss A/T is a much better tire! Quieter so far, much better wet pavement traction, and off road it's hands down better grip, sidewall protection, and clean out quicker in the mud, which is important for a small diesel engined vehicle. So far powder snow driving is good, very good when aired down to 10ish psi, ice isn't very good, similar to the stock duratracs I suppose. (been a while since I had those so can't remember for sure) only downside to the baja boss ats is they are quite heavy, even for the extra load model, so you'll probably loose a mile or two to the gallon depending if you change sizes. I went to the typical 265/70r17 and average 21-22. Truck is tuned to 500 lbs torque, so while I don't notice it in the pedal, I do notice at the pump lol. Anyway I prefer the thicker tire as I work in forestry and am off pavement everyday so I don't mind the extra weight there
@@killstrees Did you go for the XL size or E rated?
@@siebitup I got the XL. I thought about E for the extra rubber where I spend most of my time, but the last couple sets before have been E rated tires and they were too hard. And they cupped terribly after 40k miles. Rotations every 5k miles at every oil change. So far at 13k miles the baja boss a/t are as good as the day I got them
@@killstrees right on man, I’m in a similar boat and the extra weight is substantial. Glad they’ve held up well!
Thanks for a great video! Based on your positive comments and those of others, I replaced my KO2's with 285/70/17 Baja Boss on my 2021 TRD Offroad. I'll make sure to keep you posted on the progress. Can you please tell me where you got your body wrap? It would look great on my Metalic Gray crew cab,
Thnx for the review! I’m considering replacing the stock nitto terra grappler on 4Runner in NE USA because the nitto’s are crap in the wet/snow. I also use them on the beach in summer…any deep sand experience with these mickeys?
They’re also amazing in deep powdery or even icy snow! Made up an area that a Cherokee with larger KO2s could not. They had to put on chains. My old KO2’s did have better road manners though. I do not miss my KO2s after a snowstorm thoughz
Great feedback Roman! Thanks for that.
If you're keen, make sure you leave a review for them on www.tyrereview.com.au, as then it'll be in the database to inform others forever more, plus you'll go in the running to win a fuel card for your local gas station 🤘
Top review. I think it is the only tyre that will take sales away from the KO2 for those who can’t afford flats in the outback. Thanks for the review.
I have the previous generation in the western US for almost 50k miles. I literally don't even worry about what I drive over anymore, they're so resilient that it's comical, and they're good in both mud and sand. They are actually mud capable, and this generation they made them better in snow and rain which were the only achilles' heels before.
What tire are you talking about?
@@jcarry5214
I have hade these on my 1994 two door Jeep Cherokee. I run the Oregon Dunes. I rotate all five tires every oil change at 3000 miles. I have over 10 K so far. I air them down to 10 pounds. Next trip will try 8 pounds.
I got my Baja bosses when they first came out. I put 35000 miles on them. Used them 30% mild off road 70% on road. They got very loud towards the end and started to have balancing issues. I did still have 80% tred left. I switched to Falken wild peaks. As I do more on road driving.
How you like the falkens compared to Mickey Thompson?
I had a set of K02S and they did the same thing. Below 50 percent tread. I did get 50,000 miles out of them.
Now I run General Grabbers in the spring and Goodyear Duratracs in the winter. I get lots of snow where I am.
@@greekmaster1001 the falkens were great. Quite good traction and good look. I purchased a new truck and went with the Toyo at3. They made a new version of the falcon and added more weight which kills the mpgs. So far very happy with the toyos.
How often did you rotate?
@@waggitnshaggit6592 5k religiously
I've had my Baja Boss A/T 285/70/17 E rated tires about a year and 15,000 miles on my 2014 Toyota 4Runner (Prado). I had General Grabber AT+ in 265/70/17 C rated first for 18,000 miles. The Baja Boss are way heavier 20 pounds each. Surprisingly, they are quiet and smooth on road and work well in rain and snow. In the US Midwest we get a lot here. I have taken them Overlanding, off road in mud and on rocks. They have performed well (far better than the Generals) and they still look great, no unusual cuts or wear. My vehicle is fairly light, and in hind sight I would probably get C rated tires as I lost 2 MPG and some on road performance. Overall, I agree these are great tires and will buy them again on my new 4Runner or Land Cruiser someday, when they finally come out...
What size are y’all running on that Ranger?! (Sorry if I missed this in the video 😖) Thanks! 🤙🏼
I am about to get a new Wildtrack. I plan to drive around Oz. I will get ARB through the Ford partnership to set up for more than basic 4WD including roof tent. I want to go onto beaches, to the snow, top end etc. Is the MT Boss AT my best best? Until I saw this review I thought Wildpeak. Last question - using the existing rim that runs 265/60/R18 what would be the biggest size Boss AT I could run? Tks
Please do the newer Micky Thompson Baja legend exp’s
Hey pardner. Which spoke wheel is that on yout truck and what size is the tire? Ive got a 79 cj7 that im building and im looking to use the oem wheels. I believe the backspace is 3.75 and not sure about the offset. I want to use 32x12.5r15 but dobt want them poking out much if any beyond the oem fender flares. Suggestions?
With the angle of the side biters, and the asymmetry requiring a designated "inside" and "outside," does that mean that your side biters will angle toward the front of the vehicle on one side and toward the back on the other?
Who knew Ringo did tire reviews 😂
How would they compare to a Toyo Open Country RT
How’d you go balancing them?
Just got a set of 5 and 2 needed 160-180 grams.
Between these and the Rugged Trek how have the rugged trek held up? My reservation for the baja boss is that the rugged trek have wider voids and for the times I will need the tire, I'd rather have larger voids to clear clay like mud.
Great video! I’m seriously thinking about purchasing these tires. I’m currently running 285/70/17 Toyo AT3’s on my 4runner. I’d love to go slightly bigger to the Baja boss ATs in 295/70/17, but I keep hearing that these tires run bigger for their size. Have you found that to be true? Thanks!
They will be .6 an inch wider and .9 taller than the 285/70r17 Toyo AT3 tire(as listed on Tire Rack). Some of the sizes are small diameter but not in width, some of the sizes have a larger diameter, but narrow width and some are listed as larger in width and diameter. The industry standard of tire measurement is after they are made they are inflated to maximum pressure and set aside for 3 days then the measurements are taken, so 33.7x12.1 on a 8.5 inch wide wheel(a 17x8.5 wheel is 18.5x9.5, because of the wheel lip) is misleading the customer(some BFG KM3 sizes are rated for 10 psi higher which in it's self is good, that means the KM3 will be even smaller in comparison, but the 35x12.50r17 is a 295/75r17 and fits on a 17×7.5 wheel so that's good for a US customer, but not for Australians as all 35x12.50 from a 15 inch wheel to 20+ have a 8.5 listed as a minimum wheel width, though 15x8 and 16x8 inch wheels are grandfathered in).
How does it compare to Yokohama X-AT? You guys seem to have a lot of experience with both, so some direct comparisons would be welcome (sorry if I missed it)...
I drive on trails similar to the one in this video (sharp rocks but not too difficult technically). Since most of my time is on the road I am reluctant to buy an E1 rated tire. Are thr SL rwted tires sufficiently robust for this type of trail?
Hey mate I was sold mt legends for a Gu patrol and am poped them every trip.
In your opinion was I sold a tire not fitting my weight range? That really should be on the sales people?
Can you review the kenda klever at2
How do these compare to the Toyo AT3. I got over 60k hard miles on my toyo at3, over 3 yrs and 5 states driving, snow, ice and dirt. ??
Hi there, I do 80% tarmac in an NX Pajero..between these and the Falken Wildpeak AT3W LT version...which would have a lower road noise in your opinion (Wife likes less 😂) and are there comparable light duty off road? Cheers in advance.
Done it, got LT275/65/18 32.1 inch and fit nicely on to a 2017 NX Pajero. Very sure footed in the wet, quiet as on tarmac.
How do you find the Offroad Animal Sliders? Looking at those or Phat Bars currently?
Well, I'm sold. Mickey Thompson's it is. Now, if I can only find a decent review where someone beats up some rims, too. (I'm in the market for a good wheel, want someone to show me how awesome the Rhino Arsenal's are. Or a style that's similar). Anyone, anyone?
How do these compare to duratracs?
I've heard the main issue is if airing down and on a trail with large rocks that the sides can get damaged due to the agressive side lugs. Other than that people love them.
Can you compare these with the new falken at4w?
Hi Jared. How do you rate these tyres vs the Nitto ridge grapplers?
Nitto ridge grapplers are cheap pieces of shit.
Hope that helps
@@starkness7030100% correct in replacing my RG with possibly these MT
Random question for the right hand side drivers.... Is the most right side lane of the road on a divided highway the fast lane like the most left hand lane is the fast lane in the U.S or Germany/Italy? Thanks in advance.
It’s technically an overtaking lane in Australia but doesn’t have a higher speed limit.
MT needs to make 315 75 R16 size hard to find
So after your long term reviews, would you recommend baja boss at or nitto ridge grapplers?
The problem witj the Nittos is they wear fast and not even close to the BAJA BOSS off road , they also have a flatter inner with not alot of meat , Nittos are mostly sold for looks , beautiful tire but not any mud for sure.
I'm leaning more towards the Mickey's but am contemplating the Nitto Recon Grapplers (as opposed to the Ridge Grapplers). Nitto's about $30 cheaper per tire and roughly 10lbs lighter per tire. I plan on doing some off roading but mostly just for road driving and plan on staying out of the mud.
@@mawage666 your not buying these tires every month , an extra 100 to 200 is nothing for quality , those nittos weigh less but they are louder and will wear faster , they dont give a 50,000 mile warranty for nothing on the M/Ts .
Watch a bunch of vids first from TRAILBUILT and other tire places , do your homework , i did mine . Good luck
@@kennymiller8217 I appreciate the comment. I'm sure I will end up going with these Mickey Thompson Baja Boss'. Money isn't an issue as I have had the money saved up for over 6 months. Just waiting until Spring because I don't want these Minnesota winter chemicals all over the new rims on day 1 lol.
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If they came in my stock size I'd get them.
How about the weight of these tyres? Did you notice any changes in acceleration, suspension and steering response and economy?
Obiwun? Is that really you?!
No noticeable changes in accelleration or steering response going between 2 ply ATs and these, and my butt dyno is fairly well tuned these days. I always notice the lower compliance of the 3 ply tyres though, vs 2 ply, but there's even variability between them, which is interesting.. For economy, I always notice that I add one or two liters per 100km going between a lighter AT tyre to something like this. I've always hesitated to mention it, though, as it comes down to the driving, the rate that the engine is worn in, that sort of thing, but I'll try to make a note of it going forward 👍
@@TyreReviewVideos Haha yes I am the one. Awesome, great feedback thanks. I think the tyre weight would be really interesting metric to include in your reviews? I've always stuck with the 116/113S KO2's on my Ranger Raptor and planned on sticking with the lighter tyre on my Gen 2 Ranger Raptor vs the 121/118 KO2 or any other aggressive all terrain because I am worried a heavy tyre would dull the performance on high speed gravel and dirt. BFG use website quotes a 7lb weight increase from 116/113 to the 121/118. That unsprung mass is gold dust. Any idea why tyre importers only bring in the heavy construction tyres for the AU market?
@@obiwun32 You wot? You're going to have continent moving amounts of powah on the new Raptor, and you're worried about a little rotational weight?! 🤣
I'd actually be interested to run a back to back drag race and track test on the same size tyre, but different weights, to see if what you're concerned about is still a thing on the behemoths we're piloting around these days. I can imagine that on an underpowered 90's Honda Civic 7lb would be a big thing, but on a 2500kg vehicle with gob loads of power a 14% difference in weight might not be that noticeable?
I think we generally only see the LT variants of tyres because of the demands we put on tyres. Traditionally we've been less mall crawler and more "oh snap I've staked my tyre in the desert and now a crocodile is going to eat me". We're pretty demanding on tyres, but also the market is 1/15th the size, and we don't manufacture here, so they only bring in what they know they can sell.
@@TyreReviewVideos Haha fair points. I do think that tyre weight comparison test would be really great to see though. Other than comfort and durability, there must be some good reasons why the popular tyres in the USA come in 2,3 or 4 different load ratings.
I hope there is a shift towards some lighter construction aggressive tyres heading to our shores. Some of us need high performance off-road tyres but don't load our vehicles with any weight. Raptor is perfect use case for this, mine carries 2 mountain bikes, some jerry cans or a tip run. As well as my wife's 300 series. It sees a lot of gravel, a fair bit of beach action and some local tracks with a bit of limestone and rock, it carries no additional weight other than passengers and some recovery gear. It needs all terrain tyres (and the factory tyres don't pass the mall test). I'm looking at fitting some 275/65r18 Wildpeak AT3w's but at 123/120S it will be about 8kg increase per corner. I've destroyed 100's of tyres through Motorsport and other silliness and I would always choose higher performance over longer durability.
@@obiwun32 I reckon if you were keen then you could actually order the P metric tyres from the US via some of the distributors we have here. I *think* Mickey Thompson might have mentioned that when I was chatting to them about the BBAT, so it could be worth reaching out to them directly to check in on that?
It might take a while to get them, but you can work out your frustration by turning the OE tyres into pretty smoke patterns.
Man...i just can't justify that much added weight. To think they're 4 lbs heavier per tire than already heavy Ridge Grapplers. Live in the VERY twisty North Carolina mountains & on my 05 Xterra, weight MURDERS fuel economy. Went from KO2 to Ridge Grappler & lost almost 2mpg, 18 to 16. These would probably put me at 14mpg! Would LOVE this tire in a 2 ply. Plz!!!
Oh...and at 15:00, rhat balancing issue is pretty common. Was at a shop asking about these and they had to send a set to a ahop with a high end machine to find the balance issue to get Mickey Thompson to warranty it.
I think they offer them in lighter "suv" versions too....
As usual the Prado has to rescue the Ford.....😄😄excellnt review btw - very comprehensive
I thought the same 🤣🤣
When I eventually get my LC300 I'm going to put BAJA BOSS 305/60/18 on it they are 12 ply types on my last LC60 I had 35/12.5/15 MTZ will 12 ply F better and 10 ply E ?
That's going to look sweet! Have they released lift kits for them yet? I've been only keeping a vague eye on that.
@@TyreReviewVideos Yes I'm going from the Jmax 3'' lift
Just looked it up. That's awesome! Do they mention a maximum tyre size somewhere?
@@TyreReviewVideos 35x12.5x18
@@Daryl465 Heck yes! That's awesome.
How often should I rotate the tires? It’s every 6 months or should it be sooner? I just bought a brand new set want mine to last thanks if you can get back to me.
With these I'd be rotating them every 5 - 10,000km. The health of your suspension and alignment components will affect this, too, as any issues there are likely to contribute to the tyres wearing unevenly.
@@TyreReviewVideos thank you so much! And just had all my front suspension work done along with alignment should be fine thanks . Another question people seem to be having a big issue with these tires is balancing every so often they do not stay balanced is that true? :o
@@georgebarrera2640 No worries! Cos they're pretty heavy, they can be quite hard to balance, and I've certainly had to go back to the shop and ask them to have another go. My butt dyno is pretty finely tuned now, so I probably feel more than most would, though! In terms of them staying balanced, nothing should change unless they throw a weight, although that might be more likely to happen on 4x4 tyres that are given a hard time in the bush?
@@georgebarrera2640 as frequent as an oil change is a little excessive, you can get away with more than that if you're aligned well. But I waited too long to rotate mine and they're pretty punishing while they wear in on their new corners.
Are these uni-directional or can you rotate them onto both sides of the vehicle?
How many ply should I get to drive over sharp rocks on a daily basis in a suburban?
Thanks noob here, living on a mountain in a big azz suburban, don’t wanna deal with flats
I may have missed it, those are Load Range E?
yes
Why did you use the e rated tire?!? The SL would have been much better for you….
Looks like he actually could have gotten it out in the beginning obv hard to see if the truck is moving from cab
Which is better off road comparing these to the Yokohama Geolandar X-AT? Thanks.
I really want to try those yokos but there's no way they can be better than these. I have the old generation atzp3 and they're beyond reproach. They're good in deep mud, great in surface mud, great on rocks, gret on the highway, don't chunk or chip, they're incredible.I don't even worry about what I drive over anymore except for how jarring it will be. I've abused them and they're still at 50k.They're a semi MT that handle BETTER than the yokohama GO15, a highway AT. They are not quite as good as the yokohama g003mt in the mud or packed snow but they beat them in every other respect. They are stiffer than Yokohamas, I need to let more air out to be comfortable on long dirt roads. They fixed the only weak links of the old ones, snow and heavy rain. I just don't see anything outperforming them.
@@jcarry5214 I got the new MT Baja Boss A/T’s and they are phenomenal!
where are the MT Baja a/t tyres made?
America, I believe the State of Ohio, if I'm not mistaken.
How do these compare to the maxxis razr at?
I'm wondering the same thing... When I bought the maxxis razr at811, I was debating on getting the baja boss at. I decided to go with the Maxxis and I absolutely love them, but wonder how they'd stack up against the baja boss at
I wore out the 811‘s in 40k kms so the shop recommended the bb at’s as they had deeper tread. They haven’t lasted much longer , can’t fault either tire but the ride was nicer on the maxxis.
How's the road noise compared to BFG KO2's?
Interested in this as well.
I hve the old gen of these. They're not as quiet as BFGs but they aren't bad as long as you aren't lazy about rotating like I am. MUCH quieter than any other mud capable tire I've driven.
@@jcarry5214 What old gen?
@@Icutmetal previous generation of this tire, baja atzp3
Great review, but it needs time stamps!
Hey A A, we've got chapters in the description, but did you mean something else?
It is a pretty long review, but hey, there was lots to say 😅
@@TyreReviewVideos hey TR, if you look at other videos here on CZcams, they’ll have time stamps embedded into the actual video, but thank you for adding to the description
BAJA BOSS AT VS BAJA BOSS MT ?
Now that's an interesting idea. I might be able to swing a Studio comparison between the two, not sure about a back to back test on the car though 🤔
I want these (285/70/17 on a 5th gen 4runner) but, just want the "STD" model,.... the load D or whatever are just to heavy, and very very un-needed as i dont haul at all. (and dont give me the "but side wall protection",.. the std will be beyond strong and find, i just dont wanna spin that extra weight for zero reason) Nope not a mall crawler, been to moab only twice this year, and basically live out in the west Utah desert. These are going to be my next rubber, no doubt. (came from ko2's, now toyo open country ATIII's) And again, these, will be my next rubber. No doubt. Just not the heavy as shit class.
96Kylar, Get the lighter duty ones. I have E rated on my 5th gen and they are Heavy!! Going from my C rated General Grabbers 265/70/17 to E rated Baja Boss 285/70/17 I lost 2 MPG and some performance. Other than that they are great tires.
turn the music up more please, i can almost hear him talking
and not to mention you can't even buy that setup from the factory and if you are going to spend that kind of money put it in a Toyota then you might have something
Would have been nice to see them perform off road more than talking and seeing them drive down roads.
dude you are driving a ford ranger you are not going anywhere
oh yeah tires don't matter when the vehicle itself is not capable
Works both ways. What's next?
Doing all of that with a/t isn't to damn smart
Absolutely painful to watch - headache !!!