Interstate 84 (Oregon)
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- Interstate 84 used to be known as 80N, and connects Portland (and Seattle) to the interior West and Midwest. It's Oregon section is one of the most beautiful stretches of Interstate anywhere! Control City Freak is updated weekly and covers every two digit Interstate Highway in America. I'll be showing control city signs on each 1 and 2 digit (2di) Interstate Highway in the continental United States and will strive to make as complete a record as possible. I'll also be getting into the roadgeek weeds here and there, showing downtown skylines and state border crossings, and making corny jokes. I welcome all to join my geeky tour of every primary Interstate in the country!
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The way Todd says "yeah" at the beginning of most of his videos is very satisfying.
I say it to myself out of habit now lmao.
@@dcarlone2699 😂😂😂😂
the way he says The Dalles hurts my Oregonian heart
Finally I-84! I was born in one of cities along this line, so I’m super excited for you to showcase it! While ORDOT makes some really interesting choices signage wise, there’s no denying I-84 is one of the most beautiful roads in the country!
Agreed!
Wow, I really expected you to rip into The Dalles for being the main control city in Portland. (Btw, it's pronounced "DOWZ", not DAL-lees.)
Fully agree that all of the eastbound signs should be double-signed to include Boise.
I did too, but the research won me over.
Dows? The Dalls. 50 year native Oregonian.
97 from Yakima to Bend should be an interstate. maybe part of the one CA is building through the Central Valley?
I’m thinking maybe it can follow 99 up to Sacramento, then go through Yuba City and Chico, be concurrent with I-5 until weed and follow 97 to Yakima, and then take over 82 from Yakima to Ellensburg
When I was a kid in Oregon, I -84 was known as I-80N.
I-84 in Oregon deserves the attention all alone because it is a beautiful drive.
It is for sure
I drove on 84 today coming in on 82 from WA, all the way to Ontario and back. The Dalles is pronounced “the dalls”, the “ee” is silent. The curves on Deadman Pass is actually Cabbage Hill climbing in & out of Pendleton.
ryanh603 Exactly. The pass is actually several miles to the east. I know this segment well. I have family in Walla Walla, which is accessed from the first exit at the base of Cabbage Hill.
Thank you for mentioning how The Dalles is pronounced. For as many times he mentions the City, I would have thought he would figure out how to pronounce it.
@@tylermarchand2996 one of these days, maybe in the spring or summer, I would love to take a drive on Old Emigrant Road to see the back country around the Blue Mountains. I’m not sure if Emigrant Rd is the old US30 before 80N/84 was built. I’ve been on the back highways out of LaGrande and Baker City a few years back, got to see much of Wallowa County especially Enterprise, Joseph, Halfway and of course Hell’s Canyon. I like 84 through the gorge and LaGrande but really detest the desert highland from Pendleton to Boardman because of the drabness and high winds.
Can confirm the Columbia Gorge Discovery Center is a fantastic museum.
It's pronounced The Dow-ls (rhymes with PALS), named by French-Canadian trappers for the rapids there in the early 1800s.
Awesome scenery.
We need a CALTRANS-esque “The Dalles/Other River Cities” sign coming out of Portland.
That could work!
lol that would be cool
That’s an awesome pick.
I-84 Western
As a retired OTR Driver and loaded heavy, it was a pain to drive especially on the hills in winter. The Ice fog was an interesting detail of driving that route. The Oregon DOT was another story at the POE west of Ontario.
Scenery was awesome and the view going up or down Cabbage was breathtaking.
Idaho has a lot of great Mom Restaurants along it, especially in Idaho. From Twin Falls to I-15 in Utah, ehhhhhhh. From I-15 to I-80, the gorge is pretty, a lot of people tubing.down the river when it gets warm.
I’m not retired yet. Drive this frequently. 84 can be tricky in winter. It’s all about knowing where to shut down
Thanks for making this video and bringing some awesome memories back to me! :)
Remembered back in 1980 when AASHTO asked states with Suffix roads to change them 2 digits roads I 80 N became I 84 . Nice scenic route 👌. Portland, Eugene, Salem and Bend are probably the only best places people heard of in Oregon. Bend the last Blockbuster. Also home of two former teachers who started the 80s band Quarterflash. The city's going east are slim Pickens. Probably only a good aid for traveler services. Truck Stops, Gas stations, restaurants and motels. Looking forward to next week so I can say " It's 8 o'clock in Boise Idaho, mister take us to the show.
4:59 they replaced the signs since the ones shown here were pretty worn. Still same cities but they did add a sign saying Kennewick Spokane next right witch is like lipstick on a pig
Baker City, La Grande, and Ontario were a surprise to me; they're all pretty small places, barely 10,000. Makes no sense not to sign Boise there. I hadn't thought ODOT was so afraid to sign places beyond its borders.
You're excused for messing up Dalles -- it's pronounced as if there's no E. Safe bet, when you do the other part of 84 (my hometown region) the city names will be pretty easy to get right!
They did the same thing on 5, signing Ashland til the end
Control City Freak In all fairness though, east of Gresham, the only I-84 community that comes close to Ashland’s population of 21k is Hermiston with 17k. Plus, Ashland is a college town (Southern Oregon University) that hosts a major annual event: the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. A quarter billion dollars in economic revenue for a city a quarter the size of Medford is no small feat.
Washington is the only state that gets any love from ODOT (even then, it’s pretty much limited to Seattle.) There’s indifference towards Idaho, very few roads entering Nevada, and California is the devil.
To be more specific, I-84 Western used to be signed as I-80N OR-ID-UT until 1980. It parallels and overlaps US 30 from Portland, OR to near Delco, ID and travels on it's own towards Ogden, UT and ends east at I-80/US 189 in Echo, UT.
It also follows the Oregon trail through Oregon and Idaho.
Great video! I-84 is one of my favorites! I'm from Idaho Falls, Idaho, and I've been looking forward to this video for awhile.
Thanks!
I agree with you on the portion of 84 that runs RiGHT alongside the Columbia River being sone of the most scenic and beautiful stretch of interstate in the country! Here and I-70 through the Western half of Colorado would be top 2 most scenic stretches of interstate. Most folks don’t realize at all that with the exceptions of when you pass through Hood River and The Dalles-84 turns in a bit more Southwest away from the River through those spots-you’re running again RIGHT along the River from not far West of Pendleton all the way to Portland! Everyone should take that drive if they can, it’s spectacular!
The pronunciation of The Dalles kills me 🥲🥲
According to exit number math, Interstate 82 and Oregon 82 are conveniently 82 miles apart.
In Arkansas on I-40, Exit 64 is for US 64
Hey Todd, before the I82 video, we haven’t been in Oregon since the Interstate 5 videos.
True!
Excited to hear your thoughts on the east coast I-84 - I've driven it many a time!
Every day for me lol.
Glad that you split I-84 Western section. This is the last trip in Oregon for you! Next time will be your last trip to Utah.
Hopefully 84 in the northeast is easier for you and your first trip to Connecticut, Massachusetts and New England.
The Columbia River Gorge is one of my 4 favorite drives. I think everyone who can should spend 2-3 days driving it (on Historic Columbia River Highway) because it's so convenient to the Portland airport. Few sights of great natural beauty are so convenient to a major airport, and certainly few, if any, as spectacular.
Very beautiful scenery, I love your pictures. Very enjoyable video
Thanks!
Gonna be honest, I didn't even know the road I had traveled on when I was 15 to go to Multnomah Falls was even I-84, never really paid attention to the Interstate System as much as I do now, pretty interesting to see it covered in this video
Amtrak's Empire Builder, Portland Section (Trains 27/28) uses the BNSF mainline (ex-SP&S) along the north bank of the Columbia. The tracks along I-84 are Union Pacific. Just to clarify that for people.
Oh cool, didn’t realize the Portland section went into Washington.
@@ControlCityFreak - Yes, the Builder's Portland Section crosses the Columbia and stops at Vancouver, WA before progressing along the north bank to Pasco. If you ever buy a train ticket with destinations between Chicago and Spokane, you may often find be booked onto Train 27/28 instead of Train 7/8. They are one train east of Spokane, so the difference is irrelevant through that portion of route.
I love the Empire Builder. I've only been on the Seattle section. Would love to take the Portland section one day.
@@mxderate I was on the Portland section although I was only 7.
@@dvferyance Nice. I saw the Briggs video of him on the Empire Builder solely to get tacos at Havre. It looks nice
The I-84's in Oregon and right here in Connecticut are where they REALLY shine as their respective portions spend the most time in those states.
For sure
Too bad us massachuettsians only get 8 miles worth of I-84 it’d be worth what we could see if it was long enough compared to PA, NY, CT at least I own the 1981-1982 Connecticut guidebook with I-86 and I-84 to providence
The Dalles is pronounced as one syllable.
Todd's "The Way It Should Be" has very solid control cities for I-84.
Eastbound: Boise
Westbound:
Portland/ Seattle
Portland
I'm just listing the primary control cities, not the secondaries.
Literally couldn't agree more with this list.
I really enjoyed the video, lots of informational info.
Thanks!
The part of I-84 I've been on is in the east. We were on it from Port Jervis, NY to Hartford, CT. Guessing that's the next video.
Gotta finish this 84 first
Honestly it kinda does make sense to sign small towns at random exits because most traffic getting on the freeway from those roads are people who live in the countryside going into whatever town is signed
First view! Oh how I remember riding on this route on the way to Astoria, OR with my mom and on the way back to Louisiana with my mom and brother after picking him up in Astoria back in 2015. Great memories. :)
the railroad track used by Amtrak Empire Builder is actually on the Washington side of the river - the train first goes to Vancouver WA after leaving Portland before turning east
Interesting!
Empire Builder route splits westbound from Spokane. The Portland spur parallels 395 down to Pasco and then skirts the Columbia on the WA side until it crosses into OR from Vancouver; while the north spur continues through the cascades to Seattle without the observation car that goes with the Portland spur route. My wife and I took a train ride on Amtrak from Pasco to Portland a few years back, it’s truly a beautiful ride.
@@ryanh603 Definitely want to do that sometime, it looks awesome
Kennewick deserves more control city status than it gets. It should be the control city EB from both Yakima and the Dalles, and listed on the signs on the way to the Dalles in which something beyond the Dalles is signed. Where the heck is Baker City?
Also how would y’all feel about “Kennewick Washington” as a control city as I-82 is the best way to all of Washington except Vancouver?
I-84 roughly follows the Oregon Trail.
Excellent video. Western I-84 has many cool attractions. It will be interesting to compare both I-84's.
Thanks! Yeah they are pretty different.
Both I-84's are nice, but I-84 in Oregon is definitely my favorite. I am looking forward to Western I-86 soon. 😀
the way he says Dalles is so funny to me
7:38 nice
I know you will love the signage for Cheyenne from Riverdale to Echo, but it should have a secondary. Maybe Morgan or Park City
Cheyenne… the most OVERHYPED control city ever
I grew up in the Portland area and have since moved away. Every time I go back I always make the drive from Portland to Hood River on I-84. Such a beautiful drive through the gorge.
Also, pretty sure the E in The Dalles is silent. But I’ve never really been there either. But great video!
Thanks!
i love his vids and its fun to see i84 when i live in portland and road tripped to SLC and beyond many times but my god the way he pronounces The Dalles gives me an anneurism. its "the d-ah-lz" ah as in the word apple
I love your videos
Thanks!
“Never a *Dalles* moment…”
I think I-95 will be so packed with info that 4 videos will probably have to be done. I can’t wait, because I-95 is my favorite interstate!
Yeah Todd’s take on 95 is gonna be REAL interesting, it has a lot of quirks through out it and takes on a life of it’s own. With his current video posting schedule he should get there around Christmas-ish. Very curious to see his opinion of it!
Definitely wont get to 95 that early.
I hope it is 2 (NB and SB)
Armando Perez In another comment, Todd said that 85 will be a pain to do…
@@tylermarchand2996 👍
Can’t wait for the PA-MA I-84 vid!
Gonna be cool!
For next week, the north end of the concurrency with I-15 is pronounced Tree-mon-tin with a short o. It was named after Tremont, IL which rhymes with Fremont. The last syllable was added to avoid confusion with Fremont in central Utah
Also Weiser Idaho is pronounced the same way as River Cuomo’s rock band
Last one I-15’s control city north of Tremonton is “poke a tell o” I don’t know what a “tello” is but Pokey’s real name is a command to poke one
Yep, there’s a lot to I 84 in Oregon. Have driven the portion from Ontario to exit 216 at the base of Cabbage Hill (that’s the actual name of the segment where 84 splits far apart; Deadman Pass is actually several miles to the east, far enough out that the climbing lane for eastbound traffic ends BEFORE the summit) countless times, as it is part of the shortest route between Reno (where I live) and my mom’s family in Walla Walla. That segment has the tightest curves allowed on the Interstate system.
Most of what you said for control cities makes sense, but there’s a big caveat I should add regarding the I 82 junction. Westbound, I’d keep it as just KENNEWICK for a major reason: the U.S. 395 split in Kennewick is a critical crossroads for Seattle AND Spokane.
Intuitively, you’d think that Boise traffic headed to Spokane would use U.S. 95 and U.S. 195, as it is somewhat of a straight line. However, this route is EXTREMELY mountainous, and 2 lane for a significant chunk (despite U.S. 95 being the only major N-S thoroughfare in Western Idaho), with TWO long, significant uphill segments with over 2k foot elevation gain (one between the Salmon River and Grangeville (south of Lewiston), and the climb out of Lewiston towards Moscow and Pullman). In winter, snowfall can make the trek hazardous (Christmas 2016, while headed home from Washington, an I’ll fated detour due to 84 being closed resulted in my family being stranded in a town near Grangeville called Cottonwood for 7 hours, due to several accidents on 95); and in the summer, the heat (even this far north, triple digit temperatures are routine) combined with the long climbs can take a toll on a car’s engine.
Therefore, Boise-Spokane traffic will instead use I 84 through Oregon (besides, it is 5-20 minutes faster anyways). Oh, and it isn’t much different in the opposite direction; the two 2k foot climbs are now from Lewiston to Grangeville, and the Salmon River to New Meadows (near the resort town of McCall)…
My solution: have the overhead at the 82/84 split read KENNEWICK, but have a sign BEFORE the split read TO SEATTLE/SPOKANE. When U.S. 395 splits in Washington, I 82 traffic should have an overhead for YAKIMA/SEATTLE, while the U.S. 395 exit advertises for KENNEWICK/SPOKANE.
I think that would work if Seattle and Spokane were relatively equal traffic drivers, but they aren’t.
There is actually another segment of I-84 in Pennsylvania, so definitely can't wait for that sometime next Wednesday
PS: At 6:04, the background of that looks somewhat like the original Windows XP background image with the stunning looking clouds
Whoa didn’t notice that!
@@ControlCityFreak that would mean for another few videos or so on I-84, as you would have to cover the Pennsylania-Massachussetts segment as well
@@GSU_Panther_Nation I meant the XP background thing
@@ControlCityFreak I get that now
Here’s Speedboy14’s the way it should be for I-84 (Oregon)
East bound: The Dalles/Boise, Boise
West bound: Portland/Seattle (until I-82), Portland
The "D'als?"😆 I know this road better than the halls of my high school
Very nice scenery on this road, but pretty bad control cities, as Oregon usually does.
Truckers call Deadman's Pass: Cabbage. This is especially true for the grade from the top of the hill by the weigh station to the bottom. I personally never struggled with the down grade on the west bound side as picking the proper gear and engine braking doesn't seem that difficult. Only when there's heavy fog on the hill and icing that can make it a challenge
Yeah looks like it can be rough
@@ControlCityFreak the fog can be really thick at times. I think it gets stuck against the hill with how quickly the elevation changes. It goes from a few hundred feet above sea level by Pendleton to over 4000 feet near Meacham
Deadman and cabbage hill are actually 2 separate places. Cabbage hill is the steep, long hill before the top of the hill, Deadman pass is another part past the top of cabbage hill. They were named for separate things.
I suspect Boise is not on the EB signs west of Umatilla because it is REALLY FAR, over 400 miles from Portland. There's a non-tolled bridge across the river in The Dalles and access to Bend via US-197; it's also the east end of the Historic Columbia River Highway (old US 30). Also, while 84 through the Gorge is nice, old US-30 is even better. There are two sections that are driveable: between Troutdale and Ainsworth State Park, passing Crown Point and Multnomah Falls (this section has timed entry permits in the summer) and Mossier and The Dalles, passing Rowena Crest and the Rowena Loops.
Those sound great, would love to check them out
George Moore Even so, Boise really should be a bottom line even that far out. I 80 W out of SLC lists Reno (where I live), even though it is more than 500 miles out.
You bring up a good point about U.S. 197 S being the direct route between The Dalles and Bend. However, it's only really direct FROM The Dalles; Portland to Bend would use U.S. 26, and Hood River to Bend would likewise use 26 via skimming the east slope of Mount Hood. Another good cutoff is U.S. 730 to shave off a few miles to the Tri Cities or Walla Walla (there's essentially no time advantage for using I 82).
@@tylermarchand2996 You'd definitely use 26 to get between Portland and Bend; however if it's snowing up there, 84 to 197 is the shortest way around (SR 35 from Hood River puts you practically at Government Camp so that's not really a viable alternative in the winter). Though come to think of it, I bet truck traffic would in fact go all the way to Biggs and take 97 because there are some steep hills on 197 and some very sharp turns near Maupin. Another reason for signing The Dalles is that it's the county seat of Wasco County; that area has been inhabited by humans for 15,000 years (look up Celilo Falls).
@@tylermarchand2996 interesting
Another great video! After seeing all these pictures of I-84, I think I need to drive it! These videos wonderfully showcase what 84 has to offer. Wonder if Idaho and Utah will keep up the views!
Thanks!
Make sure you drive the Historic Columbia River Highway and stop at the sights and some of the waterfalls along the way.
Dave's the Way it Should Be:
EAST: Boise (I could be talked into doing The Dalles/Boise but after the Dalles it should be just Boise)
WEST: Seattle/Portland (until I-82), Portland (after I-82)
Solid
The way I think it should be: at the connection with i5 and 205 it should say Gresham/the dalles then it should be the dalles and Boise
I think I-84 western is more than twice as long as I-84 eastern. In probably 2 weeks, most will see how "lol" the control cities are on eastbound I-84 eastern. I drove western I-84 east almost 20 years ago. Recently, l saw Big Rig Travels westbound and I was amazed seeing those curves going down the mountain.
Arthur 84E should be straightforward: Scranton, Middletown, Newburgh, Danbury, Waterbury, Hartford and Worcester.
@@tylermarchand2996 Worcester Boston? You mean I-90 not only is a good route to Worcester but it’s good to Boston aswell
@@tylermarchand2996 Boston. Not Worcester.
Moderate Productions Okay, I’ll give you this one. I was mainly focused on how 84 dumps into 90 close to Worcester, but I guess Boston could be listed too thanks to the orientation working out.
I’ll just say that Worcester should not be shafted, because it is very big. The county alone has a larger population than other sizable metros (Little Rock, Stockton, Colorado Springs, Deltona/Daytona Beach, Lakeland, Boise, Des Moines, nearby Springfield, Poughkeepsie, Syracuse, Winston-Salem, Greensboro, or Dayton).
Including the NE corner of Connecticut only makes the list longer (Bakersfield, Thousand Oaks, New Haven, Cape Coral/Ft. Myers, North Port/Sarasota/Bradenton, Baton Rouge, Albuquerque, Albany, Charleston, Columbia, Greenville, Knoxville, McAllen and El Paso), as by this point, the population is creeping up towards one million…
@@tylermarchand2996 But also Boston is incredibly bigger than Worcester. And both Connecticut and Massachusetts sign it for Boston.
84 looks like a beautiful road. Much better than my I 35 in Missouri 😂
This is a beautiful drive through the state of OR.
Control Cities in OR are sorta similar to Colorado. Only marking small cities or small towns in the state until you get very close to the state line. I-5 is similar too as south of Eugene (especially Southbound I-5), they mainly note Roseburg, Grants Pass, Medford. On I-84, Boise ID should be the control city starting around I-82 interchange near Herminson. It is all towns anyways along I-84 in OR
Boise should be the control city from Portland. Not just 82.
I've never driven on this I-84 but I have driven on the other one. This I-84 is most definitely the good one.
Agreed
If you live in the Boston area then having a more direct freeway than 95 to New York City is kind of nice (if you even choose to drive). But yeah, for scenery, no contest.
@@PhilipJReed-db3zc I lived in Connecticut for years and drove on I-84 almost everyday. I-84 is one of the worst interstates I've ever driven on. The only thing that sucks about I-95 in CT is the traffic.
The Dal-Eaze LOL, it's Dall-Z. Great video though.
Just a note on "The Dalles", the 'E' is silent. You say it the same way you did, just no e.
I bet the real reason this was done in two videos to extend your break from PennDot? Not that I have a problem with that
Lol
At first I was wondering why you split your I-84 Western overview into two videos. The first thought I had was, "maybe he's reluctant to go back to any part of PA for I-84E, and might want to hold it off for an extra week!" 😅
lol
D'oh! 84 West, at 10:12.
Also, why is there a link to the episode for next week in this week's video? I get that the link will work when that one is made public, but you could always edit the description afterwards, just saying.
Was wondering if someone would catch that at 10:12
Not the first time it happened either :P
Dead man’s pass is often referred to as either Cabbage Pass or Hill
Jeremy Belko Deadman Pass is actually several miles east of the curves associated with Cabbage Hill. I’ve been on this stretch countless times, so I know the difference.
I actually was on the beginning of I-84 in Portland Oregon in American truck simulator
Can't wait for the other I84. Back to PA again lol
lol
I 85 I can't wait
The Dalles, "Dalles" is pronounced with just one syllable. Thank you.
I drove a truck and stopped at a truckstop in Pendleton after coming down Cabbage pass on my way to Portland
The Wild Horse casino. Not bad stop. Oregon has some pretty great truck stops. I'd probably put Jubitz in Portland as the best
@@kevinrussell3501 I've been to the Jubitz truckstop a couple of times, that's where I had the BEST waitress I've ever had, the best service ever
Actually my favorite interstate highway. I drive it 4 times a year.
Nice!
Adding onto the Oregon Trail joke, I see you are opting to cover I-84 at a "steady" pace ;)
lol
I hear a lot of people die of dysentery along I-84.
@@admirals818 lol
It's pronounced "The Dahlls". Live here, have been to The Dalles several times. Great restaurant there called Cousins Restaurant.
You plan on splitting I-84 Eastern into two videos as well or do you plan on having that just be one video?
Right now planning just one but I’m still in the process of making it
On WB I-84, should I-82 be Kennewick/Seattle or Seattle alone?
They have 2 now so I’d keep it 2
The pronunciation of The Dalles is not Dalies but The Dallls. Like Dalls. Funny tho .
Small correction. It's pronounced "Dalls" not "Dallys".
Dalles definition, pronounced dalz, rapids in a river confined by the walls of a canyon or gorge.
That is what The Dalles is named from.
The railroad is the Union Pacific Railroad.
I kind of wish you did EB I-84 because I wanted you to see how awful 84 was signed all at once. Because it's not signed that well until you get to Utah.
Anyways, Mod's the way it should be for the ENTIRE 84 Western:
(EAST): The Dalles/Boise (The Dalles should be in a smaller font size than Boise on the overhead signs though), Boise, Twin Falls/Salt Lake City (again, smaller font size for Twin Falls), Salt Lake City, Cheyenne
(WEST): Ogden, Boise, Portland/Seattle (same font size), Portland
The Dalles - should be pronounced “Boise.”
It’s so irrelevant even spell checker changes it to Dallas.
Dalles = Boise?
@@Bendigo1 should be Boise on the sign in the first place.
Hood River is the main city in The Gorge.
Should be I-82
This road is my bucket list
I know about The Dalles from book version of ken burns baseball it has a pictureof a adult Amateur teams from 1883
I have played Oregon trail from the 80's
Deadman Pass, also known as Emigrant Hill, & to us truckers, Cabbage Hill
Have to say I was surprised by this split. Does this mean that I-86 will be done with Utah/Idaho I-84? I-86 is currently my top example of a 2di that should have been a 3di: if I-86 rates a 2di, why isn't 135 in Kansas I-33, or 369 in Texas I-47? Even I-97 at least has the possibility of being eventually extended across the Chesapeake and down to Norfolk/Virginia Beach via the CBBT (and maybe even onwards to Raleigh to replace southern I-87). Pocatello isn't much more important than Salina and is definitely less important than Annapolis and Texarkana.
Treat it as the spur of I-84 that it is.
At this point Hermiston is becoming the main city along I-84 in Oregon east of the Cascades (partially thanks to the datacenters there: Amazon definitely and I'm pretty sure there's a reasonable chance this video is served out of a Google datacenter there as well).
Idaho 86 gets its own vid. 85 is gonna be exhausting to make, so very much looking forward to it!
Did they run out of ideas for numbers so they just used 84 in the west as they have 84 in the east.....which was actually built first ??? 84 Oregon or i84 Connecticut?
It was 80 N before. Lots of population in the Northeast, therefore lots of roads, and a lot of the more populated areas fall between 70 and 90 on the grid. Western 84 is entirely between 80 and 90 so logically it should be an 8x. 82, 86, 88 already exist as well, so what else could it be? Nobody is going to be confused by a road in Boise and a road in Hartford having the same number.
@@ControlCityFreak I agree I just wonder why they bothered changing it from 80 N......guess I always thought interstates should only have one certain area, like how i80 only goes east to west.... there's no other i80s ....love your videos see you next week
@@truckercowboyed2638 Thanks! Yeah they definitely can’t duplicate numbers on the long ones, just the regional ones. There might be an official rule against repeating an x0 or x5 but I’m not sure. 45 and 30 are really the only ones that theoretically could be duplicated, but no need with 47, 28, 32, and 34 still open.
Todd have you ever noticed that I 82 is actually out of grid it should be a western 88 in the current western 88 should be central 88 in Eastern 88 can stay how it is
Yeah it’s number changed at some point, I think I talked about it in the 82 vid
Actually, you did not talk about it
You are not pronouncing Dallas. It is not dallies. It is dals.
Thank you, so annoying he acts like an expert!
"The Dallz" not "The Dallies"
The way I think it should be (the entire length):
East: Boise, Pocatello/SLC, Ogden/SLC, Cheyenne
West: Ogden, Boise, Portland
Agreed. I would do Twin Falls/SLC instead of Pocatello.
🟩=~~Regular~~
🟫=~~Historic~~
Yeah but it’s a regular exit for US 30 too
An interstate highway is proposed for the US 97 corridor.
This new highway would be from I-84 to I-5 in Weed CA. There used to be Amtrak service over this rail line from Salt Lake City to Portland and Seattle but it was cancelled.
This train was called the Pioneer and was cancelled in 1997 under the Clinton Administration.
Maybe this is where I-11 north of Reno NV could extend to? Who knows but that would be decades away
@@S_Over_Street possibly .
@@S_Over_Street I believe that I-11 would follow U.S. Route 395 though California and Oregon rather than parallel I-5 to Weed because 395 goes through Carson City, and Reno, plus it could meet up with southern end of I-82 somewhere between Hermiston and Pendleton.
The Dalles is pronounced “dows”
I'm constantly amazed by presenters on CZcams mispronouncing geographic locations. You'd think they would at the very least call someone in the location to confirm the supposed pronunciation. In this instance it isn't The Dallees. It's closer to The Dallz, but I'd check it with the local librarian or someone at city hall to be certain.
I lived in the PNW briefly and heard this mispronunciation there, that’s where I got it. I have dozens if not hundreds of place names in every episode. Sometimes I get it wrong, but I’m not going to call a bunch of city halls each week
@@ControlCityFreak since it shouldn’t be on the signage anyway it deserves to be mispronounced 😂
For me, I'd sign I-84 Western as follows.:
Eastbound I-84 Western:
(OREGON)
•The Dalles, OR
-Hermiston-Pendleton, OR | •Boise, ID
(IDAHO)
•Boise, ID
>Twin Falls, ID
>Salt Lake City (for I-15) | >Pocatello, ID (for I-86 ID)
(UTAH)
-Ogden, UT (direct) | >Salt Lake City (for I-15)
>Cheyenne, WY
Westbound I-84 Western:
(UTAH)
-Ogden, UT
-Brigham City, UT
(IDAHO)
>Pocatello, ID (for I-15) | •Boise, ID (direct)
•Boise, ID
(OREGON)
•Portland, OR
I would sign The Dalles and Boise both. Not just The Dalles.
I have an update. I'll sign Twin Falls, ID over Boise, ID when I-15/I-84 Western split ends north.
@@CrystalClearWith8BE No. Twin Falls is okay EB, but WB it should be Boise, the way Utah does it
I agree that Twin Falls, ID is best for eastbound, not westbound, even though Twin Falls County, ID is just next to Boise, ID's metro area.
You mixed up north and south I 5