Enslaved labor: South Korea announces controversial fund to compensate victims | DW News
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- South Korea plans to help victims of forced labor during Japan's occupation of the country from 1910 to the end of World War II, by paying them with a pool of money from both South Korean and Japanese corporations.
Seoul has also announced it will stop a complaint it had previously filed against Japan at the World Trade Organization. There are reasons why the two countries are trying to build better relations in hope to solidify economic and security ties in the face of increasing regional challenges. But critics say it's coming at a cost, downplaying the trauma Japan inflicted.
President Yoon Suk-yeol's approving ratings have been low, and this move to patch things up with Japan may make him even less popular. But he believes it's necessary. It's a move that looks to the future, while trying to put the past behind.
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Only Koreans can understand what their SK government is doing. There is no second such weird move in the whole world. On the one hand, koreans criticized Japan's responsibility, but on the other hand, it payed by itself. Is it equivalent to using whole Koreans' tax money to prove that was Japan's mistake?!
That would really make Japan and US happy, and presumably that's what the Koreans want to achieve.
That wouldn't make the US happy, only Japan.
윤미향이 돈을 꿀꺽만 안했어도 믿음이 가는데 이젠 우리가 반성할 차례임. 이용만 하려고좀 하지말자.
Well miracle on Han river was partly funded by Japan...so yeah Skorea should pay for compensation
Imagine Germany claiming there was never a massacre and teach so in their schools. Who cares about the pathetic money.
Great! This is the point!
As a developed democracy I really don't understand why they still haven't admitted what they have done. Germany has done it so why can't they do the same. It's okay to admit mistakes we all have part of history they we are not proud of. But to learn from those mistake first you need to admit it. I wonder if they even mention Nanjing in textbooks.
Because like in Germany a lot of people responsible for those crimes where being kept around inside government and institutions - heck, Nobusuke Kishi (unconvicted war criminal) was even Prime Minister. But unlike Germany, there never was a large and sustained protest movement to correct this mistake (at least as best as could be done many years too late).
And you are absolutely right. The portrayal of WW2 and related crimes in Japanese text books is abysmal by any standard. All countries have this sort of issue; there's never going to be anyone that's perfect. But there's still a big gap between outright delusional denial and at least some level of acknowledgement and guilt.
That's because Japan isn't as democratic as it pretends to be.
Japanese culture is such that people would rather brush anything shameful under the carpet rather than admit it happened.
Not to go too deep into this, but the Japanese are very self conscious as a nation, and so they view the crimes of individuals as bringing shame to the whole country.
@@_SpamMe It goes far beyond that. The reason those crimes happened in the first place is because Japan practices absolute obedience of the government. They have a 99% conviction rate of criminals for a reason - the government is assumed to be incapable of wrongdoing. Japan's Government whitewashed history and got away with it because if they said that's how it happened it must be correct (at least within the mind of the Japanese populace). It goes well beyond most other countries issues where they ignore wrongdoing and reaches a level of delusion that is terrifying.
Because USA helped Japan to counter communism and permit Japan to invent and rewrite history
kinda like the cia only in took them ,60 years to publicly admitted for the first time its involvement in the 1953 coup against Iran's elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh.2013
Japan denied almost all accusation about it's war crimes during WWII. On the other hand, Germany admitted the war crimes without lying about it.
please give me the sauce
@@NEW-user. hahaha remember its not a jav xD
No thats not true. Anyone can look up japanese govt apologies and compensation online. Stop lying.
@@abcdedfg8340 Japan denied forced labour, comfort women, bio weapon testing and other accusations. We all know that. By the way, Japan just denied the forced labour accusation at UN, check the news.
@@NEW-user. Google it.
Japan and Japanese citizens never really sorry for their roles in WW2 crimes given their change of textbook educating the next generation.
That’s what triggering all the lingering pains from neighboring countries. Germany did but not the Japanese.
truth
I can understand Japan as a country itself but the citizens have no reason to be sorry. Current generations and previous generations that had no relation to WW2, thats just grasping at straws.
No, we are not sorry about it.
I guess japanese will support NK
After 15 years of negotiations, in the 1965 Japan-Korea Basic Treaty, South Korea received half of the foreign currency held by Japan at the time
However, the South Korean government did not hand over the money to the parties concerned, and spent it on infrastructure construction in South Korea. And now Korea is demanding money from Japan again
Till this day Japanese politicians are still calling rape victims of ww2 as prostitutes
This is so crazy even Japanese government was surprised.
Nothing controversial about this, South Korea gotta do what we need them to do. We gave South Korea democracy but not independence, best to listen to what we need and comply, and make it look like it's your choice.
SK democracy only happened in 1980s, and who's we?
@@crusaderforchrist8430 that's up to you to find out. lol. good luck!
You good buddy? Or are you this delusional?
rubbish...they accepted such a humiliating compensation....HOW can you accept this payment to come from Korean companies? should be fully founded from Japan + the official apology that was never came from them.
In the negotiations of the Japan-Korea Basic Treaty, Japan proposed individual reparations to the Korean parties
However, the Korean government refused it and demanded that the money be paid to the Korean government in a lump sum. And the money was used for the construction of infrastructure in South Korea.
Yeah b/c that South Korean government ruled by Park ChungHee was authoritarian dictatorship. There is a reason why these issues flared up once South Korea democratized in 1980's into 1990's.
Wars back in the days isn't conventional like they say. War is war, but now we have the internet.
its not about war. its about forced labor and the Ackowledgement from Japan.
@@yjl1030 If the reparations would work, then the Korean people should also demand that Joseon’s noble families pay for keeping the nobi slavery system until the Japanese occupation, decades after the “soft” slavery abolition of 1895.
North Korea: come home SK. United stronger than ever.
The US dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan in WWII... do the Americans have to atone for that war crime? I thought not
if USA not drop the bombs,WWII would not end easily.I mean 100million japanese people would fight to die.
@@user-xh3xx9zl9g Japan was finished and the entry of the USSR into the Pacific theatre would have finished them off quickly... but the US wanted to make a statement and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians as a result... God Bless America!
This report makes 2 conflicting statements, 0:11 “Japan and SK” will pay compensation and later at 3:25 implying that only “SK companies” will pay.
Also, 0:28 driving the narrative that there is no justice and acknowledgement while they will be compensated… We are not in the era of cycles of revenge, nothing wrong with compensation.
You are skewing facts. That was for Japan war atrocities in SK. Here, people that were enslaved by companies like Misubishi, want the company itself to be held accountable for enslaving and working some of them to death when they were children.
The cycle exists because Japan doesn't teach the complete history. Thus you have misinformation manipulation on Japanese public opinion. Thus the Japanese government cannot do the right thing due to fear of backslash.
Cycle indeed...
Do you think paying for the death of war crimes can easily accept and go on ? 🤦🏻♂️
What happened in 1965 ?
Japan paid $800M to Korea for war reparations. Korea used it to advance their country and economy instead of compensating individual affected victims.
Chinese be like what about us 😅
Korean govt. received money in 1965 but corrupt k politicians🙄
South Korea PM should be kick out, no one like him
...better late than never! However, when will a formal apology be forthcoming from the Emperor regarding the atrocities perpetrated upon allied POWs?
I wonder if America has paid for their war crimes in Korea.
I think SK also tends to diminish its own war atrocities in Vietnam, only a few years after the 1965 reparations from Japan.
they helped like lots of other contries like Canada,France, England etc...
@@ShaneyElderberry Koreans committed war crimes against each other during the Korean war too 🤣
@@leftovers923 How about Unit 731? How about Mabiki? Infanticide in Japan?
It's wartime requisition replacing male labours who had been drafted and sent to the battlefield by the Imperial Tokyo regime, not forced labour as they exaggerate.
Somebody asked for source. This Japanese comment is live evidence
@@cathie3874
Also, as for her accusation the food supplied to her was only 5 bites, generally, the Japanese eat less, it's Japanese behaviour, not abuse because of forced labour. The Japanese don't eat much as Koreans or Americans. And she is obviously exaggerating it as if it is intentional abuse by forced labour. If you come to Japan you'll see the practice of the Japanese. Every portion of food in Japan is small because the Japanese also have a practice defining leaving food is a bad manner, they don't serve excess amounts of food, while Koreans and Chinese always serve an excess amount of food that people can not eat all and people leave food they couldn't eat, and they think it's the right manner. It's just a cultural difference, not an abuse of forced labour.
@@cathie3874
Moreover, it's nonsense to claim that the paint of the aircraft she had to carry up to the top of the aircraft was so heavy her arm still hurts. Aircraft designers always try to reduce the weight of aircraft, they don't use such heavy paint. As for B-29s, to reduce their weight and increase the range they didn't even paint them, they just left the surface with plain aluminium. American Airlines was taking that method until recently and they didn't paint their aircraft to save fuel costs.
はーーーーい、どんどん妄想してください!ww全世界は笑っているんだよ^^歴史を否定するのは恥ずかしいじゃないですか?笑
They are not people who were forced to work in Japan, but people who applied for jobs and were paid properly. At that time, there were no jobs in Korea and the unemployed were overflowing, and the number of Koreans smuggling into Japan in search of jobs was so high that the Japanese police could not crack down on them in time. You can still find newspaper articles from that time about the endless smuggling of Koreans into Japan. Some Korean smugglers succeeded in pachinko business and became wealthy in Japan. A good example is Sofotbank's CEO ; Masayoshi Son's grandfather and father. His grandfather and father are Koreans who smuggled into Japan. Rumors of such a successful example spread to Korea, and the number of illegal immigrants from Korea in search of the Japan Dream increased. Many of them brought their family members left in Korea to Japan. Is there a slave who brings his family to Japan for forced labor from his homeland?
"They are not people who were forced to work in Japan, but people who applied for jobs and were paid properly."
Where did you get this information? I am not very familiar with the situation but a quick google gives results like "According to the Korean historians, approximately 670,000 Koreans, were conscripted into labor from 1944 to 1945 by the National Mobilization Law. About 670,000 of them were taken to Japan, where about 60,000 died between 1939 and 1945 due mostly to exhaustion or poor working conditions."
I feel a little weird to argue against Japan as a person who has Chinese origin... because I don't like tribalism, and I want to be like "I'm criticizing Japan only because my country tends to dislike Japan".
What's your opinion on Tribalism? Tribalism: the tendency for people to bad mouth out-groupers and defend in-groupers. It can be subconscious. For instance, you can be unintentionally biased in what kind of information you pay attention to. Typically people pay more attention (or be less suspicious) to bad stuff about other groups and good stuff about one's own group.
Do you think our world would be a better place if people now become more tribal or less tribal?
@@bohanxu6125 It contradicts the data that the population of Korea increased during the Japanese annexation of Korea while many Koreans were killed.
I would like you to search and watch the three videos from PART1 to PART3 below on CZcams.
"Untold truth of Japanese annexation of Korea PART1"
"Untold truth of Japanese annexation of Korea PART2"
"Untold truth of Japanese annexation of Korea PART3"
@3:30 How does it make sense to use S. Korean money to fund reparations for Japan's use of Korean individuals for labor and sexual (i.e. comfort women) slavery?
It's paid to South Korean government in 1965.
Although Japan did nothing wrong but since it was defeated, the Tokyo regime paid South Korea in 1965. But South Koreans cheated the money, hiding the presence of the money paid in 1965 and then they have been double charging it.
Japan is so poor now. How can they government pay. All lies cover lies.
Is like. Isreal ask Germany for money.😂😂😂😂😂
They do and they get paid like what?
I think Israel really needs to stop bombings and massacring Palestiniens more than asking for more money to turn around and do just that…
crazy
Does this mean they need to pay North Korea too, i mean, if they want to make it fair and about the war... just saying....
DW twisting and turning to bring China in almost ever topic is commendable.
yea, they love doing that and spreading hate
Also currently, there are many Korean living in Japan and working by their own choice. Then, decades later, there will be many Koreans claiming "we were forced to work!" I know how much they are good at pretending to be victim. We are bored of hearing that.
South Korea needs to worry about the future problems with North Korea and China, not the past
Easy for a hypocrite like you to say. Japan is the only country invaded and occupied Korea many times throughout the history.
@@AB-fi5jt only a fool lives in the past. I know China attempted to invade Japan so I wouldn’t be surprised if Korea didn’t also. Try cursing Japan when Chinese and North Korean dogs are chewing on your bones
South Korea dont think China is a problem. China is a problem of the US, not other countries
How bad was the pitfall?
I think this is a good thing. I understand the position of the survivors but they will never be happy. Now they at least get some money out of it and then hopefully those two countries can move on.
They need to form a strong block against china.
Besides a lot of the japanese alive today didn't have any participation in the war.
Like we have moved on with Germany they need to move on with Japan.
Japan never really apologize. Sick.
@@francozheng5617 they did to Korea in 2015. Way too late of course but they did.
@@francozheng5617 You need to stop making false statements.
@@dankfarrik8376 compensation to the victims is not coming from those committed the crime? This isn't a compensation, but an insult to the victims!
@@davidli9457 it clearly says it’s a joined effort by Japan and Korea. At least watch the video.
A be it late isn’t?
This is a difficult issue.
On one side, you have victims of WW2 whose grievance has gone unaddressed.
On the other side, SK needs friends in increasingly very hostile neighborhood to maintain sovereignty and independence.
How to balance future needs and respect for the past is a challenge that requires sober thinking, especially when there are huge consequences tied to it.
I think as Humans we need to be able to adapt. History is cruel it can toy with the smartest minds. We must always engage in discussion that's constructive.
If we are always aware of our friends and enemy's intentions we can survive longer and grow. If we fight to much with each other we only training the world to hate.
Train on jess keep sending pik
😂😂😂 look like Selma
I hope that Japan's apology will trigger the developed countries of the world to apologize.😊
hahaha you think Japan will apologize? are japanese really this naive?
@@ftu2021 this is sarcastick.
Nice
LDP criminals should be in world court for their crimes
North Korea
In the 1965 Japan-Korea Basic Treaty, the money for North Korea has already been paid to the South Korean government at that time.
The South Korean government did not hand over the huge amount of money to the parties concerned, and spent it on infrastructure construction in South Korea.
The United States: 👀 👀
Paying someone else's debt to your aggrieved with your own country's money is the solution?
Sleepy Joe is laughing now lol
Moreover, it's nonsense to claim that the paint of the aircraft she had to carry up to the top of the aircraft was so heavy her arm still hurts. Aircraft designers always try to reduce the weight of aircraft, they don't use such heavy paint. As for B-29s, to reduce their weight and increase the range they didn't even paint them, they just left the surface with plain aluminium. American Airlines was taking that method until recently and they didn't paint their aircraft to save fuel costs.
If they get money then Germany needs to pay Namibia and all it's ex colonies. 400 years of stealing isn't right. Got to make it right caucasians
Germany of today ain't the same ww2 & imperialist crazies. Namibia actually has a very positive modern economic relationship, even allowing immigration.
in this news, it's not Japan paying; as they mentioned these were resolved in a '65 Treaty. it's a foundation from both Japan & Skorea; since it was corporations that caused forced labor. it was war, blaming the modern state of their past generations wrongs won't get anywhere except hate. plus it's chyna that's they are worried about, including their communist puppet in Pyongyang
Germany doesn't owe Namibia anything.
Brownies always crying about something
Right after the beligic and the british and the french payments.
Museums in UK are the world’s largest receiver of stolen goods. UK should return them
Idc what people are saying in the comments. I thought it was interesting and I learned about something I didn’t know about before.
And for those questioning if reparations should be done and would work: why are you arguing on the side of those who inflicted generations of pain and obstacles? If you can’t/don’t understand that then count yourself lucky!
It doesn't matter what other people say, you can voice opposition to their view points but don't worry about changing their mind. You learned something new, which is all that really matters.
I met an old man in 1970s who said he was taken by the Japanese to construct the Siam-Burma (now Thailand-Myanmar) railway in 1940s. It was a cruel slavery treatment, about half of the about 300,000 prisoners of war and civilians died during the construction. The old man said he was lucky to manage to escape early and walked about one and half years to reach his home in Malaya, now Malaysia. He was lucky to be alive
If the reparations would work, then the Korean people should also demand that Joseon’s noble families pay for keeping the nobi slavery system until the Japanese occupation, decades after the “soft” slavery abolition of 1895.
Because most of those comments are from Europeans nations, who will also have to pay up for their crimes against humanity, if Japan does.
@@Exxperiment626 what to pay up? They even haven't returned the stolen artifacts ... can Britain to pay $ 45 trillion to India alone?
As for her accusation the food supplied to her was only 5 bites, generally, the Japanese eat less, it's Japanese behaviour, not abuse because of forced labour. The Japanese don't eat much as Koreans or Americans. And she is obviously exaggerating it as if it is intentional abuse by forced labour. If you come to Japan you'll see the practice of the Japanese. Every portion of food in Japan is small because the Japanese also have a practice defining leaving food is a bad manner, they don't serve excess amounts of food, while Koreans and Chinese always serve an excess amount of food that people can not eat all and people leave food they couldn't eat, and they think it's the right manner. It's just a cultural difference, not an abuse of forced labour.
South Korea also needs to pay for the price it had made Imperial Tokyo fight against the Qing to liberate the Korean peninsula from being the colony of the Qing empire.
Japan needs to pay cost of two atomic bomb to USA. okay?
What the enslaved, only three of them alive, want is an apology from Japan, the criminal.
Pity they will never get it.
Japan did some awful things back then and they want to help now.
South Korea has never been away from Japanese colonial since 1900.
wow
Haha China ask the same. But Japan won’t 🙇♂️ down and say sorry. What’s done is done.
Japan want to paid China in 1970's, but chairman Mao rejected it.
Well the communist in China did got into power thanks to Japan.
It’s pathetic that Koreans are just physically independent from Japan’s colonial but not mentally.
Are you dumb? This has to do with justice. You know how many women got raped?
the reality is just the opposite way.
@@yjl1030 then why paying the compensation to your victims with own money for the crime committed by Japan?
@@davidli9457 因为主人需要
Japan should take responsibility for the actions of the empire during WW2. However China and North Korea are going to make these countries best friends. Its inevitable at this point.
Japan should pay the price
@@aa-zh6wh What are you talking about?
Every time?, exactly when?
It’s Japan breaking the agreement designed to return Korean treasures taken by the criminals in the terrible past.
Biased news
what news isn’t?
Japan already paid it 50 years ago, but the money is in govts hand ..it's on the korean govt how and when they will distribute them.
Japan already paid compensate for more than one time, but no matter how much Japan paid, South Korea people would never be satisfied. Nationalism is the best tool for the government.
you are wrong. South Koreans didn't want to ask compensate more than one time. all they want is a SINGLE APOLOGY and it NEVER GETS REVERSED AGAIN.
That's right.
Japan already paid vast money.
It is 2.3 billion dollars, which is eight times the national budget of South Korea at that time.
Japan payed for war atrocities in SK. This is a different subject: people want the companies themselves, like Mitsubishi, to be held accountable for enslaving and working some of them to death when they were children.
@@user-ur1rz7lb2o
Look up things that Japan did for South Korea. You just have lack of knowledge related to that.
No one want your pathetic money. We need justice and apologize, and most important to make sure history never repeat again.
this is bs.
Japan is not Germany.
Japan has no crime to Korea.
So there is nothing for Japan to do to Korea.
どんどん事実を否定してねww歴史を否定しているのは恥ずかしいじゃないの?妄想している民族の元:日本だろうww
Japan has never fully recognized its role in war crimes.
exactly, they never did officially
It does, in the case of Korea with $800M in 1965 which helped make the S.Korean country and economy what it is today. It also made war reparations to US and other countries, including Mao's China, ahead of schedule.