This Is Not Investing, Itâs Gambling! - Dave Ramsey Rant
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My thinking about money has drastically changed lately, especially since I understand how to make profits from the stock market. I just might be leaving my day job soon. It's not gambling when you master risk exposure.
I agree. I started investing in 2020 after COVID. It taught me a lot about thinking of the future. In retrospect, that was the best move I did, and it's the fact that I don't sweat the day-to-day analysis of which stocks to buy.
That's really nice. I'm in my 40's now and want to start investing. Why do you not have to stress? I'm tired of being too careful and not making any progress.
The market is a really gold mine. I find startup investing to be very lucrative too, but it just takes time before your investment mature.
Ah, I actually work with a financial advisor, Sharon Lynne Hart. I'm not an expert myself. You could also look up for other financial advisors online.
I'm having some issues resolving my 401(k) problems and I need a financial advisor too.
Let's talk about the risk involved with an 8% withdrawal rate
What is that.
lol
As long as you are making 11% its fine.
Add that to talking about just getting you one of those $1,000 cars, deliver pizzas stop and go in that $1,000 car, and with that pizza delivery money regardless of your debt kick up 10% to the church because it will no doubt come back to you in many ways. And it is always a good time to just pay cash for that real estate as it always just goes up up up. Oh and just pour your money into one of those easy to find 12% return growth stock mutual funds. He literally talks his book in finance terms.
â@@kleindropperlol why not make 50% so you can withdraw 40%?
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The very first time we tried, we invested $1000 and after a week, we received $7500. That really helped us a lot to pay up our bills.
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
After I raised up to 125k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states also paid for my son's surgery
Glory to God shalom.
she's mostly on Instagrams, using the user name
FXMILLER18 đŻ.. that's it
Actually.....
There is a risk associated with "low risk" investments. It is called "opportunity risk". Also, let's factor in "inflation risk" for good measure. And don't forget Daves rant about retirement withdrawal rates, which entirely ignored "sequence of returns risk".
Having multiple streams of income is a game-changer for financial stability. Relying solely on a job may not provide enough financial security due to high rates of tax It is important to explore additional investment opportunities to surpass one's expectations. May you find success as you read, see you in 2025.
Investment is one of the major keys that you can secure your family's future. Anyone who is not investing now is missing a tremendous opportunity.
I'm favoured, $60K every week! I can give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America.
How..? Am a newbie in crypto investment, please can you guide me through on how you made profit?
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Hallelujah!!
Thank you Ms. Chloe Linda Henderson!
Speculation is a great game when you win and a merciless one when you lose. I pallet flip, and it is a speculative game with a decent amount of known quantities.
We had HYSAs 10 years ago, Dave. They just were called "e-savings accounts." Or online savings account. I had several of them. ING Direct, HSBC Direct, FNBO Direct, etc. There were dozens of them and most were called "(bank name) Direct." It's how I saved my 34% downpayment on my house. At one point during 2006-2008 they were paying 6% gauranteed for 6 months. With 3-day liquidity. They are slightly quicker now. Now you get 1-2 day liquidity, but the concept is the exact same.
I really needed this!! Thanks đđŸ
I learned so much about dollar cost averaging. I got out of debt. I learned about compound interest. I learned all of this because of bitcoin and I stopped the cycle of debt and I stopped the cycle of shopping! You can say bitcoin is awful all you want, but it taught me everything I know about money and for the first time in my life, I feel like thereâs a little hope! Bitcoin isnât just the technology itâs a frame of mind. Is it high risk - yes - and Iâm so grateful for finally know what wealthy people know.
Bitcoin is only high risk if you can't handle the volatility. If you can hold through a downturn or "crypto winter" which is typically 4 years, you're unlikely to lose. If you want quick profits, it's possible, but not advisable. HODL is a meme at this point, but it's the truth for any asset or investment.
He says a risk pays moreâŠ. Well, more or nothing.
You know I'm born to lose
And gambling's for fools
But that's the way I like it, baby
I don't want to live forever
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Dave you hit everything right on the mark you're teaching me an accountant stuff that I never really thought of
No he didnât lol. Not even close. His methods will keep you doing fine, but never wealthy.
@@TRC296 I am a senior citizen that made all my money flipping houses and holding rental property I can tell you that the headaches that I've had with that has shortened years off my life. But let me say again your statement is 100% correct
Great advice from Dave!!
Hello Jim! (.) (.)
Those aren't eyes....
Excellent Dave Rant segment đ
Disses Bitcoin, BUT FIAT is what keeps people in chains. Few understand. Accumulate while you still have time...
Everything keeps people in chains dude.
Exactly right!! Keep stacking and HODLING!!
Actually the first thing they teach you in finance 101 is the risk free rate = 3 month T bill rate. That said, The Risk Free Rate (rf) is the theoretical rate of return received on zero-risk assets, which serves as the minimum return required on riskier investments. The risk-free rate should reflect the yield to maturity (YTM) on default-free government bonds of equivalent maturity as the duration of the projected cash flows. Investment company of America mutual funds are not risk free.
I love me some Dave Ramsey he literally saved my life and really changed my perspective on things â€
Nope. What is the mutual fund that earns average 12.2%? S&P 500 only got 10.80%. If *ONE* fund earned that, it was just luck. Look up survivorship bias.
Some people think the fund he mentions is AIVSX. According to portfoliovisualizer, since Jan 1985, AIVSX and the S&P 500 have the exact same return. BUT, AIVSX has a 5.75% front end load. That means to invest $10,000 you have to give them $10,575. From 1985 to present, AIVSX grew to $713K whereas the S&P500 grew to $758K.
A more accurate explanation could be that if you are investing, you are providing Capital to contribute to Goods and Services being produced and delivered in some way. In speculation, the production part is left out of the equation to some degree. For example if you speculate in Roulette and win, you have more money than before but there's no new production or product in existence at the end of the transaction.
In 2022, the global net assets of US-based mutual funds were approximately $22.1 trillion. This is more than triple the $5.53 trillion in assets under management in 1998. It appears people are still putting money in Mutual Funds for those that say no one does
Good point. Mid-2021 it was USD 59.5 trillion globally. So, the US held only one-third of _global_ mutual fund assets. There was another USD 9 trillion in ETFs globally. Add in sovereign wealth funds, UITs, etc., and there was another USD 15 trillion in funds globally, for a total of over USD 80 trillion in global managed funds. And that was three years ago.
I rarely agree with Dave but here he is giving good info.
There are classes beyond 101. I have sold premium for years with high probability of success trades. Short options placed at about 45 DTE, managed at about 21 DTE. Very capital efficient.
Dave's niche is to repeat the basics to people who need them.
His intended audience aren't savvy about even using credit cards properly (having a nice rewards card and paying it in full each month and never paying interest). He steers them away from using them at all.
He has to write down, and they have to read and listen to, things like : Write down all your debts, pay all your minimum payments and pay a little extra on the smallest bill so it's gone soon and you feel the win...' It's not even 'pay extra on the highest interest rate debt'...he's not helping logical people. He's helping people with impulse control issues, and people who can't reason out how bad being in debt with high interest is for them.
I've seen someone about 20 years old, who had to be told to write down his debts, the interest rates, and minimum payments, and to pay them all plus extra on (in this case, his mother said to pay more on the highest interest rate one...the logical choice) one. He actually asked 'Who would think to do this?' and his father said 'Your mother...' as if it were some special knowledge. I was thinking 'what else would you do? why was your debt so nebulous and disorganized in your head?' He has a great job in trades and makes good money, but is still in lots of debt because he wants lots of things and doesn't care about being in debt and paying interest.
I actually entered vegas with 5$ and left with 40$ and havenât gambled since đ
I entered Vegas with $20,000. Bought a 3 bedroom for 90k, rented it, paid it off. Value is now 350k renting for $1800.
Heâs talking about The Investment Company of America from American Funds.
I looked it up. Fund ticker is AIVSX. I downloaded returns 1934 to 2023, from Yahoo! Finance. I think 1934 was only a partial year. I found average return 13.57% per annum. The returns are based on changes in NAV (i.e., net asset value). So, I think they are after expenses. Current expense ratio of AIVSX is 58 bps (i.e., 0.58%).
Average return on S&P500 1934 to 2023 is 12.35% including dividends (using Damodaran's free Excel data files at his NYU web site).
AIVSX beat the S&P500 (SPX) in 46 out of 90 years. AIVSX underperformed in 44 out of 90 years. In 46 years of out-performance, the average out-performance (AIVSX over SPX) was 5.78%. In 44 years of under-performance, the average under-performance (AIVSX under SPX) was 3.54%. So, it was roughly a coin toss over whether AIVSX beat the SPX, but when it did, it did so by more than the magnitude of its underperformance in underperforming years.
My boy Dave knows the difference between speculating and investing !
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Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested Ms Chloe Linda Henderson.
She's a licensed broker in the states đșđž
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states đșđžđșđž also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
Wow that's nice She makes you that much!! please is there a way to reach her services, I work 3 jobs and trying to pay off my debts for a while now!! Please help me.
Great to see you guys talking about her, she changed the game for me.
I love companies with a great yield in return. And also dividends stocks đ
I don't buy individual stocks. There is nothing that appealing about it. Feels much more like gambling at that point.
@@jamisojoitâs not gambling if you know what youâre doing.
@@jamisojo youâre missing out on dividends then. If youâre in the stock market at all, itâs a gamble.
@@PepeToTheMooon big facts.. you need a return on your investments
I honestly thought a spec house was made to "specifications". As in a non custom, plain jane home.
It is. Dave is completely wrong.
Dave is right about a spec house being one the contractor built on speculation. I suppose someone could use the term differently, but I've worked in banking for a long time. "Spec" homes are speculation.
That's what I thought too. "Specification." I.e. not custom
@@debbieholoquist2059 no it literally stands for specification. Homebuilders will pick a floorplan and predetermined features and put it on the market. Has nothing to do with speculation. Idk what Dave was talking about there
ââ@@PepeToTheMooon3:40 "When a home builder builds a home that does not have a buyer, that is speculating."
Dave Ramsey is 100% correct and THIS is what HE means when he refers to this type of house building as a "spec house".
YOUR inference (that a "spec house" means a house built to custom specifications) may also be correct but that has never been the meaning of "spec house" that I understood.
Something seems off about Jade. I hope sheâs OK.
Dave probably harasses her
First time I hear Dave say Bitcoin is less risk than anything. đ€Łđ€Ł
He's warming up to it, we'll get him there.
Nah day trading and scalping is goldennnnnn when you learn how to read charts and have correct entries and exits
You cannot compare a mutual fund today from one that was created 85 years ago.
In the last 10-20 years, it have not made that much.
S&P beats mutual funds like 90% of the time.
100 percent. FXAIX all the way baby.
Who does mutual funds anymore? My dad? In 1985? Lol dino
I'm not a big mutual fund fan, but you can't compare the last 10-20 years to the next 10-20 years. The last 20 years was a golden era for investing and everything went up every year. We've moved on to the next regime and we don't know where it's going to go from here, it's just not likely to be the same as the last one.
The only index fund available in my 401k is VINIX but it's always near the top of the performance list among my options, with a 0.04% operating expense instead of the 0.3% or 0.8% that most of the mutual funds have.
Looks like a lot. "In 2022, the global net assets of US-based mutual funds were approximately $22.1 trillion. This is more than triple the $5.53 trillion in assets under management in 1998,@@brendond747
I feel like before I ever invested a dollar I understood this instinctively
Does anybody know what is the name of this mutual fund Dave always talks about that gets him 12.2% average since 1934??
@AlonsoalvarezMr If you listen carefully, you never hear him say that HE invested in this mutual fund. He just looked at the thousands of mutual funds that exist and found the one that hit the jackpot.
You have to pay one of his pros to find out. It's a secret.
No and nobody has verified his study of millionaires either
I'm so happy I made productive decisions about my finances that changed my life forever,hoping to retire next year.. Investment should always be on any creative man's heart for success in life
Thanks for the advice! I'm new to financial planning and wasn't sure where to start. Any tips on finding a reliable financial adviser or resource to guide beginners?
As a beginner, it's essential for you to have a mentor that is verified by finra and SEC to keep you accountable. I'm guided by a widely known financial consultant Stacey Macken
Truly, investing has changed my perspective on how one can succeed in life; working multiple jobs isn't the optimal way to attain financial freedom and unfortunately, we discover this later in life. Currently earn as much as 12 grand weekly and this has improved my financial life
YES! that's exactly her name (Stacey Macken) I watched her interview on CNN News and so many people recommended her trading skills, she's an expert and I'm just starting with her....From Brisbane Australia
This Woman has really change the life of many people from different countries and am a testimony of her trading platform .
Good advice....
Mental calories! Never heard this, love it.
Dave will be proven WRONG once again about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies đ
Any time Dave makes a statement about bitcoin itâs massively bullish and I should be buying more đ
One of the very first things The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham talks about is speculation vs investing. Very nice rant.
Graham talks about the difference and ultimately understanding what youâre getting into. NOT that you should never speculate. This was a dumb rant. Heâs equating wheat commodities to bitcoin. I donât play commodities cause I donât follow/understand them but to say itâs the same as gambling is dumb as sh!t
@@richthepup Dave never said not to speculate only that it was inherently riskier than investing. My opinion is that it was a great rant if you think it sucked so be it, we disagree.
I invest in spec houses. I donât consider it anything close to gambling. I still own a tangible asset if it doesnât sell. You canât say that with a stock.
I make 5.2% and 5.3% on my money market. That is where itsat. Fully fdic insured
which brokerage? I use fidelity and i get 4.9 i think
â@@Run4Ever77they are. Maybe do some research before you comment incorrectly.
@@Ascendsean35 Vanguard's VMFXX money market fund is paying around 5.3% now. Schwab's Treasury money market fund is similar. You can probably buy them in your Fidelity account.
You are probably in a sweep account and not a real money market, money markets are never insured, sweep accounts are FDIC insured, move your money into multiple banks potentially and have similar gains to a mm, they are at most big brokerage firms, fidelity money manage, vanguard cash+ etc
â@Ascendsean35 it's a bank. Republic Bank of Chicago and Vio Bank
I want to go to the investing event but I don't want to pay for the same thing I can get free on CZcams. I want to make sure I am getting some new information that is going to change my situation.
There is nothing life changing in investing information.
Dave's advice won't change. Save money and invest it in very simple mutual/index funds.
Or do a lot more work and get into real estate, which should pay you more to justify the harder work and more time and risk involved.
You shouldn't go unless you can easily afford it and it sounds like fun.
@@jamisojo Making $ is always fun and I can afford it but still asking.
I lost 100k in crypto and boy it was brutal now 3 years later im starting from ground 0. Yea it hurts but thanks to Dave hes gave me some hope
You lost 100K cause you sold.
@@CryptoStone483 If they held to today they would be up 100k. Hell I made 150% in the last 24 hours speculating on a token called Shark Cat lmao...
I had a money market account with BA. They got rid of it several years ago.
I just opened a high yield with capital one
@@JakeStewart1343 nice
What is the mutual fund Dave mentioned that has an12.2% average returns since 1934?
I'd like to know as well.
Bitcoin has no track record? how much was it 12 years ago dave?
It's only been around for 15 years. Until it's been around for 25 years it doesn't have a long term track record. It's only existed for the short term.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 Yeah but from a buck to 60k it's outperformed every other investment. Ever.
Dave is an elderly man who probably has trouble using Excel Spreadsheets. đđđ He is terrified by technology so he rejects Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a high tech ponzi scheme
@@bigdaddynuts 99% of Americans have trouble with Excel spreadsheets
I wholesale properties as a side hustle work a full time job and opened 4 high interest savings. FDIC insured at 5.41%. Might open more in the future those will be my retirement accounts letâs gooo!!!
Where are you getting 5.4%? A vanguard govt money market fund?
@@mattesser5027 Flagstar bank savings
So if you buy Bitcoin only cash you donât need and hold it for a minimum of 10 years. That would be investing;) Not speculative. In 15 years Bitcoin has seen the greatest return, more than any other investment vehicle in the history of investing.
That only shows that no investment has performed well in the last 15 years at all.
You are so right! We all wish we bought,AAPL,AMZN,Microsoft And any company early on we would be filthy rich but sadly most people didnât and now they call bitcoin not an investment because it has only been around 15 years! Bitcoin has been gobbling up all asset classes and it will continue to do so despite what Dave and his cronies think!! I will continue to buy dollar cost average and HODL! Bitcoin is outperformed all my other assets!! No more talk !!
What a load of crap
â@@truthseeker4807user name checks out
@@zaraustralook up the logarithmic all time chart of bitcoin
Mutual funds low gains medium risk. At least with an individual stock I can place a stop loss. Mutual funds only buy
For those wondering, Dave is referring to AIVSX.
just some a harmless suggestion the laptop with all the decals doesnt look very proffessional.
This is a very very superficial explanation of these issues. I used to think that Dave was just dumbing things down for the audience but Iâm increasingly convinced that he doesnât have a deep understanding of what he is talking about. That doesnât mean his advice isnât valid, itâs just not valid for the reason he says it is. Take for example his trope about how Vegas is paid for by losers. Well in some sense, everything is paid for with money that people lost. Your church is paid for with money that people brought there and now donât have anymore. So is your local grocery. Itâs pretty naĂŻve to go to Las Vegas and expect to net a positive return off of gambling games. But contrary to what Dave says, that does happen for many people and itâs not even rare. Itâs just that the overall mathematics make it a long-term, losing proposition. In other words, if you play an infinite number of roulette spins, youâll always lose. But no one plays an infinite number of roulette spins. In fact, the vast majority of people who gamble in Vegas only play a few dozen, or most a few hundred spins. If you look at the mathematics of this, thatâs not even remotely close to a random sample. You could very well win. You could also very well lose a lot more than the expected long-term loss of 6%. The exact same mathematics applies to mutual funds, except that the infinite time horizon gain is (probably) a positive number rather than a negative number. You are almost certainly not going to get the historic average of your mutual fund. You might actually get more. Or you might actually get less. This deviation could be substantial. That doesnât mean that you shouldnât invest in mutual funds. I do and you probably should too. But I think that even people who talk about finance all day tend to have a poor understanding of the variance mathematics involved in these investments. There is a lot of luck in mutual fund investing, just as there is in spinning a roulette wheel. The mathematical âlong termâ is much much longer than you think and quite likely much longer than your life. You will never reach the âlong termâ, you will get returns based on a much higher variance subset of that long term. It also doesnât make any sense to say.â higher risk should equal higher return.â Risk specifically refers to the fact that your actual result may deviate from the expected result. The risk literally is the possibility that you will not get the higher return. If higher risk always equaled higher return, you should invest in the highest risk investment you could possibly find. Obviously you donât do that.
Wow not reading that book.
Need cliff notes for a comment wow
@stt5v2002 Dave has good advice for people digging out from a mountain of debt. On investing he is clueless.
4:35 Ramsay is spot on about crypto in that it is nothing BUT speculative but did he really just lump that in with gold? Gold will yield positive returns every single time because money will eventually be backed by it again...in a BIG way too. Gold is the only currency that is both universal AND regulated.
đđđ you have no clue about crypto. When the biggest investments firm came into the space it became an investment not speculative.
Interesting. I made 112% in 4 years on bitcoin and other crypto. And I'm a boomer.
Oh my god Dave! Are you saying that trading CFD's is not investing but gambling?? Oh my god I've been gambling since Covid hit in 2020!!
I started investing in stocks at 18, grew portfolio to $600k by 33. Recently, lost over 30% and want to mitigate risks. Also, planning to buy a home soon and want portfolio to grow. What should I do?
Good information
Wall Street is just a giant casino.
No, casinos pay out a negative overall return, Stock markets always go up over time. The odds on the stock market statistically a lot better. Casinos are designed so you go broke.
@@quixomega it's a pump and dump. We're in the pump, waiting on the elites to decide when to dump. Nothing goes up forever, and regular people will be the ones left holding the bag. I will not play their game only to lose everything.
Ignorant comment.
ewfish doesn't know anything about investing.
If you try day trading against multi-billion dollar hedge funds that have AI algos that can act within milliseconds, you will lose most of the time. Investing in a swathe of good companies through funds consistently and over a long term is an almost guaranteed win.
@@kleindropper funds are Ponzi/Pyramid Schemes. They get their value from more and more people putting their money in. In order to make money on them, you need more people to put in more money.
99% of gamblers quit before they win lol
100% of gamblers are losers.
Does anyone have the ticker for Dave's 12.2% fund?
no i don't think so. i love dave but with his 12% there is something strange.. why are so many people investing in inedx expecting 7% growth per year if its that easy and risk free to have 12%?
The FDIC is just a few more bank failures away from insolvency. Meanwhile, inflation is outpacing your savings account. Gold is up 400% in 5 years.
No way!!
@@astroboy5137 I erred. Gold is up 500% in 30 years. Still beats inflation.
that is nowhere near correct!!
@@johnkitchens310 Gold price in 1994 $281. In 2024 $2400. I like to remind my friends that a silver quarter would buy a gallon of gas in 1969, and a silver quarter will buy a gallon of gas today.
So you mean 50 years, not 5
Only disagreement is your take on day trading, day trading for many people is an employable profession that banks and financial institutions employee people to do. Yes some people have no clue what they are doing and it can be akin to gambling but that isnât a blanket rule
All investing is gambling and timing is important. Ask everyone around 2008 when they were retiring if they invested well with their 401k and IRAs when they were half of what they were compared to 1998
If you were about to retire, hopefully you were not 100% equities like Dave recommends. Talk about risk
Dave whatâs that ticker symbol
Always lying about bitcoin! Dave hasnât got a clue! Stick to your mutual funds ! Bitcoin has been around 15years and has outperformed every asset! We donât jump in and out of bitcoin! Itâs called HODLING !!
15 years isn't a long time in financial terms. Companies have been selling stock shares since the 1600s. Real estate has existed since pretty much the beginning of history. I don't know what will happen to Bitcoin in the long term, but 15 years is not much of a track record when you compare to other asset classes.
Follow the money. The rich and countries are buying BTC. Keep listening to this man if you want, it'll be your loss. Fiat will disappear, and BTC will take over.
Madoff's pyramid scheme lasted at least 17 years, and outperformed. Just sayin'...
Bitcoin went from 65K to 16K in less than a year and could easily do so again since there is nothing to drive its value other than the pyramid scheme. This is why Bitcoiners so desperately try to gather new bitcoin investors and why nearly every other crypto has failed miserably. Cryptos are the most easily manipulated entities in the world.
@@deniseyisrael6275 It's more likely that countries will coordinate to ban bitcoin. They don't like losing the tracking of money movement.
I bought like 300 of bitcoin in mid 2016. At one point in like 2021 it got up to 40k. I withdrew half and left half in and now that 20k is like 27k. I dont know of any better investment.
So one is long term gambling and the other is short term?
As someone who appreciates old school money, Dave is a dinosaur. They were smart. survived for a billions yrs and the died. I have tons on conservative investments as he suggests. Very safe and takes care of my financial needs. While "speculating" is higher risk, in the age of information you CAN in fact do very well in short term trading.
Fantastic guys! We made our wealth with the S&P 500 index fund. We understand it, we consistently put money in it, and that's how we've won. Not credit card points, not flipping house (we don't understand that business). Keep it simple, understandable, and virtually risk free. Boom wealth!
Same here...I have a lot invested in the S&P (Vanguard) and we've done well...and I have my son doing the same.
I could have bought bitcoin back in 2010 but im smart like based Dave and understand that it:s simply a foolish gamble and it could go from $70k down to $0 in a day which is why it's much smarter to put that money in 0.5% savings account
Hahahah.
Dave ,,, if you invested in a mutual fund or a stock fund you are speculating that the fund in your 401k will be a good investment in retirement,,, â Not all funds âââ make money⊠example
Cromwell fund , arkk fund,,, lost money,,, so you are gambling with your money,,,
Gold is not a short term play. Itâs actually the ultimate long term playâŠâŠ
How? Humans do not live long term.
I feel like Dave just bumped Bitcoin from gambling to speculating
I know nothing about trading /investment and I'm keen on getting started. What are some strategies to get started with?
As a beginner, it's essential for you to have a mentor to keep you accountable.
I'm guided by a widely known crypto consultant
Nancy is considered a key Crypto Strategist with one of the best copy Trading Portfolios and also very active in the cryptocurrency space.đ
This is correct, Nancy's strategy has normalized winning trades for me also and itâs a huge milestone for me looking back to how it all started..
The first step to successful investment is figuring your goals and risk tolerance either on your own or with the help of a financial professional but it's very advisable you make use of professional
Please how can I reach out to her easily?
Speculation is gambling? Tell that to Laszlo Hanyecz who bought two pizzas for 10,000 BTC back in 2010. If he would have maintained a long term perspective and held his Bitcoin, he would have today over $600 million. Bottom line, the higher the risk, the higher the reward, you just need to maintain a forward looking perspective.
I disagree with Gold. Gold prices have been rising since long time, infact Gold has given consistently positive returns those that beat the annual market return rate.
When you say "gold price is rising" what you mean is fiat currency is falling. The gold and the demand for it never changed.
Invest $1000 in gold today and $1000 in an IRA. Let's meet back in 30 years and we'll compare the two accounts. Gold will be worth about $3,000 and the IRA will be worth upwards of $100,000. You tell me which is a better investment...
Gold prices have fallen since 1980
@@jdtreharne not really. There was one spike around 1980 yes, but look at the moving averages.
@@thedopplereffect00 "one spike" means it's lost 20% of it's value over the last quarter century.
Letâs talk about the risk involved putting your family in a $5000 car you buy off of FB marketplace
Whatâs the name of the mutual fund
As Dave talked, I thought of the political situation. We voters decided to take a chance, that is, to speculate, on the outsider businessman as president. We got Donald Trump. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose--or as we said among Marines, "You pays your money and you takes your chances."
So was it a win or a lose?
So glad that the chick stayed quiet throughout Dave's talk.
She wasnât trying to get fired for disagreeing lol
Nothing wrong with cdâs or high yield..
Where is Kristina???
Haven't seen her for a minute đ€
She quit a year ago...
Ramsey is the same man who says you should give away your wealth to charity, but the man wonât even bother to give his own employees a raise.
You need to explain that one. You appear to have no knowledge on what you are talking about. Can you elaborate or were you talking out your poo hole?
and he pulls guns on them!
What's this all about? I haven't heard
ââ@@timothyjohnson679 It's a gift tax write off. I believe that's what members of a church does when they "give" to their churches.
Dave is the same guy who says to work 80 hours a week, work 3-4 jobs. You'll never be successful without taking some risks.
Anyone have a guess as the fund Dave is talking about that's been around since 1934 with an average 12% return and 10 total down years? I wouldn't mind owning some of that.
@Colbycrab Read my other comment. Buy a S&P 500 index fund.
It doesnât exist. Heâs lying
I believe I answered my own question. It's likely AIVSX.
I'm guessing Dave is saying crypto currency has no track record because 99% of the customers didn't get into it until 2017 or later.
Bitcoin is terrible when looking at the short term. It's way too volatile. On a 5+ year horizon however it's always looked pretty good but it does have a relatively short track record compared to something like the S&P 500 so nobody knows for sure where it will be 20 years from now.
@SteveCox1 Yes we do know. In 20 years from now we'll look back on bitcoin the same way we look at pet rocks and beany babies. Just a fad that took a lot of people in.
â@@Fred2-123if that were true, then why isn't it dead already? It has it managed to bounce back from multiple crashes over the past decade. Pet rocks and beanie babies didn't do that.
@@SteveCox1 Because there are a lot of fools out there. The only thing backing up crypto is new people buying it. It has no intrinsic value. It is vaporware. It's not a lot different than any other ponzi scheme.
What happens to your investment in, say, AT&T if nobody buys AT&T stock? Not much bad happens, the business stays in business and pays you a dividend.
What happens to an investment in bitcoin if nobody buys bitcoins? There is no business and no dividends, the only return you get is when other people buy it.
Sorry to rain on your parade. The early buyers made out great--just like every other ponzi scheme and MLM scheme. When the music stops, people still holding it lose everything.
â@@Fred2-123in 20 years you'll be working for 10sats/hr
Single stocks are investing if you plan to hold for growth or dividend payouts. But diversification is the most important factor in investing
True
Dave on meme coins:
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Any reason why Dave canât or wonât disclose the name of this awesome growth stock mutual fund heâs always telling his listeners to go out and find to invest in themselves?
Because like everything else it will go to zero when everyone else invests in it.
Still waiting for Dave to explain why a 20 year old and a 70 year old should operate with the same risk tolerance. Itâs been 30 years
Young person has so much more time for compound interest. Someone 70 should enjoy the rest of their life spending their nest egg. Someone 70 shouldnât spend as much. No need for a new corvette and dry cleaned suits. Exercise. Enjoy family. Walk the local muni golf courses.
đ€Șđ€Șđ€Ș well thatâs what happens when life deals you a bad hand. Youâve got to play it
Wow⊠Iâd expect a lot better from Dave Ramsey. He said Gold is a short term play/quick money speculative move⊠very disappointing to see such lack of knowledge/understanding. And his track record since 1934 is a small fraction of Goldâs historic value. Also, the âspecâ in spec houses stands for âspecificationsâ. I would have never imagined such erroneous arguments from him. And he called it Finance 101đđđ„Ž.
Gold speculation is only speculating if you buy paper markets. Buying and taking physical ownership is called wealth generation.
Bitcoin, gold and silver into self custody. đ„đ„đ„
Thats not called wealth generation its called wealth preservation
There is nothing wrong with gold ETFs unless you think you'll be playing Fallout IRL
@@thedopplereffect00 If you own a gold ETF share, you own 0 gold. You own a claim on gold. You own a promise that someone else wonât steal your gold. Plus any government can just freeze your silly piece of paper in case of a financial crisis âŠ. which weâre in the middle of right now.
@@bigdaddynuts that's not how the securities markets work but you do you.
BTW, the government will have no problem doing a 5am visit to divest one of their precious metals. Good luck!
Real estate isnât the win you think it is either. I had 3 properties. A home shouldnât be an investment, itâs a home. And also if youâre renting out a property, LOL that isnât ever easy. Try having bad tenants who donât pay on time. Or destroy your house. Or when property taxes and homeowners insurance suddenly raise. Dave pretends like real estate isnât a gamble when itâs the biggest gamble of all.
Dave lost a lot by leveraging in real estate. He should know it's not perfectly safe.
I'm tired of people thinking of homes as 'investments'... they cost you every day.
Correct. Personal residence is not an asset, itâs a liability. When itâs paid off basically all it saves you is the cost of a comparable rent (which is still offset by cost of maintenance/taxes etc)
It's a gamble but so is everything else and there are bigger gambles.
I have Bitcoin for 5 years, not sure how is that a short term play. It's not day trade, I hold it forever. It's a Gamble, but not a short term play. Gold is pretty much safe play as well. Less gamble than buying any stock.
Five years is short term. It has only existed a short amount of time. Long term is 25+ years.
@amireallythatgrumpy6508 not the definition given by irs. One year is long term. Then you buy stock is also day trade unless you hold it for 25 years. No difference to be honest. The only investment is just put the cash on your bank I guess
@@eile4219 The IRS is stupid. And their definitions are WRONG. 25+ years is long term. Anything less than that is short term.
Of course 99% of Americans are incapable for planning anything beyond tomorrow.
@@eile4219 The IRS is American and therefore wrong.
Meanwhile my investment strategy is trying to win the lottery with a handful of pennies and wishful thinking. I mean.. who needs financial planning when youâve got blind optimism?