@@lansa002my view on it is that tojis only wish in life was fulfilled, he wanted his son to be a kind and good sorcerer like gojo rather than the zenin because gojo was the only sorcerer to recognize him so in a way it symbolizes him the sorcerer killer overcoming his berserker state and hatred for sorcerer's because of he can accept Megumi and love him
Megumi became what toji wanted( being a sorcerer which means having a place in the world) and escaped everything what toji hated ( the crazy ideals of zenin and his hatred towards sorcerer having a place while he couldn't)..@@lansa002 Toji hated sorcerers because he couldn't become one. He didn't have a place like them. He didn't love being an outcast. And I am glad they went with narrative consistency of his character and he just offed himself. Didn't create a ruckus about being father and all that because he wasn't there for him in the first place. But he was certainly glad and probably happy for the first time in his life. Edit:- also it also makes sense toji would go for the strongest because the granny just can set conditions through seance and not control everything..and since everybody is stronger than granny and his kids it would make sense that the condition would be that he would go for the strongest if they weren't able to control the beast. And he going for dagon instantly because de uses so strong cursed energy that toji had to go there instinctively.
@@lansa002the significance of that moment was toji finally escaping from his obsession with rejecting the jujutsu sorcery and his inferiority complex from being raised as a zenin with no cursed energy/technique. he figuratively and literally freed himself when he remembered megumi and chose to kill himself to save his blessing
Toji had to be in Shibuya, he further develops the super important theme of the soul and the body, and starts of the development of Makis character and what she becomes in the culling games. Plus Shibuya develops Tojis character more, like his feelings about Megumi and his theme of being a literal haunting ghost to the Zenin (Which is also shown through Maki)
I agree with your first point. The second point I'm a bit shakier on, I think Shibuya's main purpose was just to cause chaos, I didn't really get any vibes about him haunting the Zenin because of the fact that he went straight to kill Dagon, beat up Megumi and killed that old woman. If Toji had set his eyes on Naobito then maybe, but I didn't really see it. Fair point tho, I think thematically he is just a ghost (just not particularly aiming at the Zenin)
@lansa002 by haunting ghost, what is meant is that toji represents their greatest failure as a clan and someone who scared every clan member who knew of him to their core
@@lansa002 he had no reason to set on Naobito tho since he wasnt the strongest in that room. and plus if he did set on anyone out of spite or vengence then he isnt at his fullest potential of freedom that comes with 0CE Heavenly Restrictions. Not following your instincts was what got him killed in the first place
Sukuna wasn't tanking the meteor or attacks JoGoat sent at him, he literally dodged every single one. Since that was his deal, that he wouldn't get hit by Jogo.
Toji was not there to beat Dagon, they were set to win after they left his domain and his CT was on CD. He was an unexpected interval to highlight the chaos of shibuya.
Were they? Naobito lost an arm, Maki was having some issues, Megumi is gassed OUT, and Nanami is hurting after taking the shikigami fish hits. Although I'm not gonna pretend to be a powerscaler And yeah, I agree he was fun to have around as a wild card
@@lansa002yeah it was confirmed afterwards because even though Naobito lost his arm he was still fast enough, and Dagon's CT would've been gone after the domain because afterwards the user can't use their innate technique for a while via frying of the brain, and he couldn't have used it again.
@@rottingbubbles dagon was in the domain... And since gojo is sealed and not many sorcerers are around and jogo choso and mahito are free after the gojo sealing.. so the most natural progression is mahito and choso are finding yuji while jogo would look for dagon after hanamis death.. so the moment toji breaks the domain expansion after killing dagon,, toji goes after Megumi then jogo comes there cos he could feel dagon was dying or domain expansion was destroyed..so jogo comes against the other three... Again you know whats coming. Jogo incinerates them three. Now the natural progression. Zenin head dies, nanami barely survives because of the cursed energy increase in overtime, and maki survives because of heavenly restriction.. since jogo speed blitzed the other two he just lit them up to the point he thought they were dead and went all out on the last one that is zenin. Now he would complete the job but king of curses comes up. Jogo cares more about his fellow curses more than anything. This is consistent with his conversations. He is the most human of them all. Even when he died he's happy that he finally met with hanami and dagon.. they are his family. also it also makes sense toji would go for the strongest because the granny just can set conditions through seance and not control everything..and since everybody is stronger than granny and his kids it would make sense that the condition would be that he would go for the strongest if they weren't able to control the beast. And he going for dagon instantly because domain expansion uses so strong cursed energy that toji had to go there instinctively.
I personally LOVED the Mahoraga fight. I thought it looked gorgeous regardless of it not being finished. Granted, I liked the Jogo fight better, but I thought it was really cool how messy and brutal the fight felt. I didn't have much trouble telling what was going on, and I loved how fast paced it felt. And oh my gosh, when Sukana starts taking a bow during all the destruction like it's a stage performance sent CHILLS down my spine. And, much like you said, Sukuna's domain expansion is stunning. I also really liked the aftermath with Yuji coming back to witness what Sukuna has done.
If you disregard in this instance the plot of Hidden Inventory, the first five episodes of S2 can be viewed as an introduction to the character, Toji. Otherwise narratively they wouldn’t be able to revive his character in Shibuya without that context. The rooftop curse users summoned Toji because of their own familiarity. He was a part of the underground society of curse-users, the infamous invisible man/sorcerer killer. Entirely out of proudness against the sorcerer world, Toji wanted to take down the awakened six-eyes the pinacle of sorcery at that time. Megumi having the Fushiguro name is a fufillment of Toji’s pride against the sorcerer world, especially against his family. He is no father-figure and understands having no entitlement. Still with pride and gratitude, the only thing he can do for his son in that moment is stopping himself from killing him. Also without spoiling, Toji’s resurrection was foreshadowing in a couple different ways for the events to come.
toji's role in shibuya isnt to serve Megumi's character, but his own. Toji died not knowing what actually happened to Megumi, and while you could argue that he didnt really care, I like to think at some level he did. He sold Megumi to the Zen'in because he knew if Megumi had talent he would be safer there, even though that ended up not happening. But Toji getting that closure knowing that Megumi grew strong in spite of the Zen'in while keeping the Fushiguro name is what makes him smile and then kill himself, because he didnt want to kill his son.
I definitely think that Toji's role SHOULD have been to serve Megumi, though, because Toji was already dead and Megumi has no character arc otherwise. I like Toji's revival, but it could have been smoothed out if Megumi was affected by it more than just being slightly weirded out by the whole thing.
Toji is written as a really powerful character with a ton of agency to the story. He is so powerful that he doesn't need to wait for the story to progress to act, he causes things to progress simply by being himself. He is a force of nature in the story, something that causes change. I believe this is why it feels he has no role in shibuya or doesn't really "exist" as a character. He gets a ton of characterization in hidden inventory/premature death, enough to the point where I think he doesn't need more in shibuya. Toji's story is finished by the time he is revived, we already saw his conclusion when he was defeated by Gojo: he came to terms with his life and realized he wasted it by fighting a losing battle with no real point. There isn't much to work with in shibuya except for the fact that megumi is there. Toji sees that he didn't actually waste his life because he created a son that wouldn't suffer the same fate as him, which reminds him that he doesn't need to fight anymore and leads to his second death.
@@jcp1296 nah as someone who's caught up w the manga, i still think the fandom sucks, respectfully. 😭 where do these guys keep getting the leaks from for the next chapter? 💀 they care about powerscaling way too much and their reading comprehension is in the gutter. they state headcanon as the truth time and time again
I'm just a guy who likes making some content :) And thanks for the compliment! I appreciate people liking the stuff I make. Todo is the fugging G but I mean he lost a hand sooo...
Personally, I absolutely love the animation of ep 17. I love all the kinda imperfect but still flowing animation style, and I think that it was one of the better animated episodes, at least better animated than most of the season 1 episodes.
Shibuya arc was good in the manga, and then the anime adapted a previously good arc, but the anime is good outside of the scope of shibuya so no neither
One thing about Toji, you could argue that he was there to injure Megumi enough so that when Haruta attacked him, he needed to bring out Mahoraga, so that Sukuna would jump in and destroy Shibuya, which causes an important moment for Yuji.
Toji’s revival is also the reason megumi had to summon mahoraga. If Toji hadn’t stabbed megumi he wouldn’t have been in such a bad state and could’ve fought off the blonde little shit on his own, but because of his injury’s he chose to try to take down the curse user along with him, causing the destruction of shibuya in the fight between mahoraga and sukuna.
27:45 Yuji definitely progressed exponentially throughout the series. He went from barely being up to keep up with a 2nd grade curse in S1 Ep1 (albeit before cursed energy) to going toe to toe with a final form Mahito over the span of months
You can definitely tell that the Sukuna Vs Mahoraga fight was supposed to be something much grander and more comprehensive than what we got. It’s was great, but it was supposed to be better. One of the best things ever, even. Damn that god awful schedule MAPPA put them under for this season.
I completely agree, and the issue I have is that MAPPA is burdening itself with more projects like the CSM movie and Hell's Paradise. I mean Hell's Paradise had some really bad animation at specific points in the first season
They dragged it already compared to the manga where sukuna looked like he was bullying it. Mapa employees are butthurt they weren’t allowed to butcher it with extra filler
This was the funniest way I've ever heard the I am you scene described lmfao. ''Me and my covenant, all in black cloaks, chasing you down in the snow.''
Nothing will be funnier than phobes pretending Gojo and Geto were roommates even after Geto's body *rebels* against the brain. The thousand-year old brain that says he's never seen anything like this in his life.
Spoiler Well tbf that same thousand year old brain also beat yuji's mom pretty easily so he clearly has some counter to the power of love. Or maybe she was into that who knows. Her husband was for sure. (My hc is that kenny just never posessed such a strong sorcerer before bdw)
I personally just feel like them being lovers is not even a close enough word to describe their bond. I'd personally just call them soulmates, a pair so utterly entwined that they go beyond friendship or romance. A quite literally indescribable level of closeness. Dude was literally dead and had his body possessed, then the instant he heard Gojo's voice it was on sight. That's CRAZY.
@@anusaukko6792I see them as soulmates too. Whether it was Romantic or Platonic isn’t really important. They weren’t just friends or lovers they are eachothers everything.
I loved how the narrator said that Toji was fighting of pure instinct and that he always targets the strongest because after he was done with Dagon he immediately went after Megumi. That really set my expactations high for Megumi and now that Ive caught up to the manga...
Dude it was sooo good, I espacially loved todo, he just can't miss. His speach about the chiming bells still lives in my head and his black flash was glorious. Shame we won't get to see him (or nanamis brother(?)) again, at least for a really long time. Only thing I didn't like as much was the finale, it felt like setup for the next season without much extra substance exept for the yuta stuff and kenny's yapping
@@za-ir5ni i disagree, it may be fight after fight but it doesn't make the story worse in any way. it's just not really focused on any emotional aspect, more so trying to figure out how to survive the culling games and beat kenny
Yuji not doing much growimg is wild though. Yuji's evolution was much quieter. At the start, yuji was getting bullied by a baby special grade, and going from that to being able to fight on par and better than sorcerers like nanami and todo to face mahito shows yuji's ridiculous growth rate in a short amount of time. Every black flash is similar to a zenkai from dragonball, giving him a massive boost.
There is a common thing between the scene of fake Geto choking himself and Toji recovering his own body: the duality of body and soul. The controversy around the prevalence of one over the other is one of the main themes of the series, in my opinion, and it gives meaning to Toji's revival. Sukuna mentions the soul and the nature of the cursed energy a lot, so I know that it will come out in the long run. Maybe the true understanding of the soul and its inherent relation to the body is what allows Sukuna to manipulate his form and perform the way he does at sourcery.
Thinking about it, the toji's revival scene is also important for two reasons: to consolidate the importance and significance of megumi's roots and to introduce the possibility of retaking ones body from the reminiscence of the soul, which may be a important topic further, when (spoiler) sukuna takes megumi's body and subsumed his soul. In any case, it's nice to pre establish that possibility because it would also legitimate the incapacity to nail it in megumi's case due to the amount of suffering he passed through.
Toji had to be in Shibuya for one specific reason aside from closure with Megumi. that one reason is Maki. We're told that he's Maki fully realized. And Maki now sees a glimpse of what that would be
Others have started expressing this recently as the season was ending, but I wish we were given more centering the characters before the Shibuya Arc. It makes sense why narrativley Gege went with the decision to have everything go do so fast, but viewers aren't able to connect to characters we met like technically a couple of episodes ago counting both seasons because they're gone so quickly. Shibuya felt like a middle point in a longer story but they didn't have the materials to make it as impactful
Yeah, i think it's just the way things are now given tiktok brain, we see it all the time where a series (jjk included) has a first season and gets compared to the love people had for shows they watched 200-1000 eps of (naruto, one piece, etc). The shows back in the day had way more time to get to know characters in a chill out mode and now people complain if the series "doesnt live up to the hype" or it gets cancelled if not every chapter is a banger. Hence we get constant fights. Think about this, in one piece or bleach in 50 eps we didnt have this hype action or fights or big deaths...yet people claim jjk is not enough and needs to go harder. Some say its underwhelming and so on. people's expectations are so hard to please and the need for bigger and better faster is causing stories to feel fast paced and lifeless. JJK is still good and you can tell gege has to use the shortcuts of us filling in the down time and that characters are cool with each other like that part where one character removes lint from another or they go to the movies together etc. Chainsman part two just slowed down and people ragg on it. Before people ragged that its too fast and they feel nothing, now its too slow and they dont care for introspective stuff and want it all to get on with it. Its very hard to make a story now as the pot of criticism is so abundant we used to just read and move on now if something is not perfect 100 videos ragg on it and make people who liked it think its trash etc. COnclusion, i just think we all caused this issue you said and i agree with you but i get why gege did it this way. He was supposely gonna get canceled and sped things up...within a few chapters and look at him now. PS: people say jjk or demon slayer are just liked for animation and they have no story or its basic etc, but if true we'd make all shonen with animes and just add flashy animation. plenty of stories arent doing well even with animes because the story doesnt resonate. Fast pacing and cool animation cant hid an uninteresting cast, setting, theme, plot, action, power system, etc.
Im commenting off of no.10 alone, as I still have to watch the rest… however I wanted to explain my perspective of why I think Toji being brought back through the seance tech was actually excellent writing and plot setup. Firstly, granny used seance and it back firing was excellent. It gives the first true insight into how powerful Heavenly Restriction is. Then, when he arrives to fight Dagon, aside from the amazing fight sequence, this is the first time Maki gets the opportunity to see the full potential of Heavenly Restrixtion, even though she didn’t know. Then after Dagon, he fights megumi… which Gege uses to highlight that Megumi is stronger than the rest of the other sorcerers (he instinctively bared his fangs at the strongest around). So nice quality setup for megumi. Finally, after seeing megumi fight stragetically and staring dead into his eyes, he recalls that look and remembers his kid. It’s like amazing amazing writing imo. From setups to maki, pure peak toji (in hidden inventory he wasn’t peak), and then part 1 closure with megumi.
Let us remember, the episodes were absolutely amazing and beautiful specially considering that animators almost die trying to deliver the episodes. Hopefully for next season they can work on the episodes before the season start, just as the first season. That way episodes will be finished without animators dying trying to deliver final cuts on time.
Tojis revival felt a bit more meaningful for me. He said to Gojo that Megumi would get sold off to the zenin clan and to do with that what he will. Imo I think it was done really well with Toji being broughy back by the old ladys technique, only for his soul to win (skill issue) go on a bit of a rampage, and then realize last second that he was fighting his own son and couldn't control it. So it kinda makes sense he game ended himself but oh well thats just my opinion \_(:/)_/
As a manga reader, toji picking megumi after killing dagon and the narrator said toji's instincts is only to fight the strongest, made sense after the latest arc. Megumi's shikigami is one of the strongest techniques out there. I like after seeing that scene why sukuna liked megumi from the start.
I am usually strongly agains characters being revived, but I loved the toji part for two reasons: 1.- Watching him again is straight up amazing. The beating he gave to dagon and the entire persuit of Megumi are really enjoyable. 2-' Adds to the theme of one chosing his own destiniy. JJK and specially the Sibuya Arc have a lot of commentary on "what meaning does death have?". Seeing how Toji sees his wish fulfilled after death give us the viewer hope that maybe sometime the desires of all who were left behind will come, eventually even if they are not there to see it.
also- SLIGHT MANGA SPOILERS- we know that the soul is extremely important in jjk for multiple reasons, i think tojis “body” being strong enough to overtake a soul will later come up when more about the soul and how it relates to cursed energy is revealed
Bro… there’s no way you thought sukuma vs mahoraga was messy. That was my favorite fight in anime period, spectacle wise. It was very impressive to me that they managed to successfully capture the chaos of such a fight while still making it possible to clearly follow. Now I will say there were a few scenes that DEFINITELY could’ve been done better to clear up what just happened. But I personally only found like a handful. I definitely suggest you rewatch the fight. The level of detail in it was immense.
So let me try to understand your thoughts on Gojo and Geto relationship; because they show great friendship, comradery and rivalry towards each other, care about each other, maybe even love each other, they must be gay for each other? It that regard, anyone who has had a same sex best friend or even a close friend MUST be gay for each other?
Yuji progresses like crazy. He just doesn't have those big landmarks like a domain expansion. But my boy is already way stronger than toji and is a sorcerer for like a year or even less
you want to know what’s crazy? Yuji consumes his first finger in June 2018. Shibuya Incident was the following Halloween that year. A couple of months as a first year and is recommended for 1st grade, then not long after that slated for immediate execution.
I just think the point being when compared to Mahito it is crazy how the villain is getting the more apparent growth to the audience while yuji is more subtle but also still not getting his domain. I think that’s why I like the difference between them
I think Toji return was well written, He wanted Megumi to not be a Zenin and having Gojo fulfll that wish meant he was at peace and possibly unsure of how his revival would work as he is back but almost controlled by the desire to kill the strongest sorcerer. Him killing himself was the first selfless thing he has ever done reallt
JJK is meant as a full piece and not to be broken down by arcs. You will see in future chapters Toji is just a part of the consistent explanation of the corruption of Jujutsu society with the Zenin clan being at the center of that, serving as inspiration for both Megumi AND Maki’s best moments. The way he was reintroduced further illustrates aspects of one of those central questions: which comes first, the soul or the body. To say there’s no payoff would be to overlook his backstory moments entirely.
I have heard someone say that they have heard from a interview with Gege Akutami, that the Geto situation is unfortunate more like an animal reacting after being decapitated rather than a sort of consciousness, so unfortunately I don’t think he will be reawakened after Kenjaku’s brain is out. It’s more like a decapitated animal’s unconscious actions or body reacting by itself.
That's actually a really interesting comment! Well sucks that Geto wouldnt probably come back, the only thing that's weird is the body still moved after like years instead of an immediate death but I guess it's supposed to be more metaphorical
Regarding the "I am you" comments in the anime, I think it was more talking about how Mahito mercilessly kills humans while Yuji does the exact same thing to Cursed Spirits, slaughtering them without a second thought. Which is why it's so scary to Mahito when Yuji admits it, cause he's staring at the Cursed Spirit equivalent of a serial killer
(I yap abt something not that deep don’t mind me) Mahito has a bag so deep his growth is incredibly obvious, and lends itself to group fights but Yujis actually grown a good bit more than Mahito has, at least as of chapters 212-216 ish. The events of those chapters along with the book he gets from Yuki and it’s contents(manga readers know, anime onlys don’t need to no spoilers plz) make me believe that after that point if Mahito spawned in again full power he’d get absolutely violated. (It is debatable but the reason why is spoilers) Regardless of who’d win that hypothetical, Yujis growth is higher than Mahitos is simply bc he lived longer than Him, and was on his tail their entire fight outside key moments. while Yuji would’ve died without todo in that moment, throughout their fight he was showing that he was able to keep up in a 1v1. It got progressively harder as the fight went on but not because Mahito was growing faster than him but because yuji already had a mental nerf from Sukunas actions and Mahito exploited it and used it to cripple him. Once he had his head in the game he was able to keep up and even show relativity to ascended Mahito. Neither were at full power and if Yuji didn’t land the black flash right after his domain, the fact he did lends itself to the idea he was able to go blow for blow. He out battle IQ’d him in their final clash, that divergent fist countered what Mahito was doing to counter Yujis full power final black flash by throwing off his timing and offsetting his balance. He even went “I win” in his head before so we know he didn’t have a counter to that in mind. Todo hitting cleanest fake out just gave Yuji the chance to steal him from the side cleanly so the attack would hit harder. After that Mahitos bag was finally empty and Yuji could still box box, even running up on Geto after and tanking a bunch of curses jumping him, and was frozen. Mahito could have kept up or lapped Yuji in the culling games if he was in them but he wasn’t unfortunately(good fuck that greasy mf)
Tojis revival was there for Maki, not megumi. Maki seeing toji was a massive inspiration to the heights she could possibly reach. He definitely wasnt inserted solely to solve the dagon problem
I would’ve loved them to have Toji realize megumi was not taking the zenin name, and then flee the scene with a smile, just to come back to the culling games arc to help rescue Gojo for taking care of his son. (Obviously hasn’t read the manga so idk if he comes back or not)
Mahito was a baby cursed spirit. He just looked more evolved due to his humanoid form but we gotta remember he was a newly born basically at the beginning of the story. If he somehow survived Yuji and Kenjaku hadn’t absorbed him, he could’ve become something far more powerful and dangerous, he could’ve basically also turned the whole world with his idle transfiguration, the fact that he doesn’t is just because at thar point he didn’t know he could or how to or still lacked power to do it, but Kenjaku had 1000+ years of knowledge and manipulation to do it 🤷🏻♀️.
18:20 Are you questioning if Todo is able to use Reverse Cursed Technique or be healed by someone that does (Shoko)? If it’s the former, Todo doesn’t have that ability
Dude, Jogo vs. Sukuna, and Gojo getting captured are my top 2 picks. I'm not saying you're wrong for putting them at 8 and 7, but... mine is correct-er. (Disclaimer, this is a joke, but yeah, those are my actual top 2.)
Some opinions: First of all, introducing Toji to Shibuya was perfect. His impact on Shibuya as a whole was perfect, and so was Toji's story as a whole and the way he died. It fit Toji's character, he wouldn't keep living, it wouldn't be like him. Second, the fight with Dagon was perfect for Megumi's character development. When Megumi doesn't attempt to summon Mahoraga after the tiniest inconvience shows how much he's grown since the third episode. I also love how he did eventually summon Mahoraga for such a low level enemy. Him doing that was a way of acknowledging defeat, as well as giving a final "screw you" to the person who was gonna take him out. I don't have much to say about Choso and Yuji besides how close it was, in terms of range and who won. Jogo vs Sukuna was absolutely insane, not only does it show, the absolute insane power difference, it shows how Sukuna will act fair in a fight, shown by him not revealing his secret in his final duel with Jogo. It shows how someone as evil and narsistic as Sukuna will fight fair in order to cure boredom. Honestly, Geto choking Kenjaku was amazing, not just because of the emotions, but because of Kenjaku's reaction to it, being shocked, amazed, and suprised. I don't like the Mechamaru vs Mahito fight, due to Mechamaru's motivation to betraying Jujutsu High. His motivations were kinda lame, they had no risk behind this and it makes it less entertaining. If Kenjaku and Mahito kidnapped Miwa and potentially offed her in front of Mechamaru, it'd lead to Mechamaru losing his crap, possibly beating Mahito so bad and quickly that he can't use idle transfiguration, leading to Kenjaku intervening. Anyway, peace.
Meant to reply to this earlier, it's the big kahuna; 1. Toji's impact on Shibuya is minimal, at least in terms of the payoffs. It's not like Toji had a masterplan of coming back to life, it was just a coincidence that the hunters used his DNA in particular. I do believe that his inclusion was a nice example of Gege's chaos in writing actualized but that's the most I really rake it up too. 2. The Dagon battle with Megumi over the domain was just more of a way to allow his friends to escape, at least that's the way I chalked it up to be. Although I do admit, even when I read the manga that Megumi using it as the metaphorical "middle finger" against Shigemo was really great. 3. I mean Mechamaru's anger and disdain is shown in the first season when he's just mad at his situation when being stuck in the bathtub, which I just felt sorry for him. Like the only other way to be healed is by working with the villains, which I found to be a pretty reasonable agreement. The whole risk of the Mechamaru and Mahito fight was whether Mechamaru could reasonably beat Mahito, which did offer a pretty strong degree of tension because he was already fighting at the edge, he was fighting to see Miwa again. Thanks for commenting! I really appreciate your input
@@lansa002I 100% agree with you on the first point and thats why it was perfect. Toji just ran with it, instead of asking questions which fits his character as a whole. Toji's character revolves around being quick and effecient without needless fights and or interactions, which made it perfect when he realised Megumi kept his name. Although, I do disagree with you regarding Mechamaru. I personally feel as Mechamaru's pain was chalked up his despair regarding the situation, not himself entirely. During the fight with Mahito, he really didn't have any drive which is why Mahito killing or injuring Miwa would be perfect. I'm just imagining a Mahito who's holding back for fun just get slammed and comboed by Mechamaru whos in a fit of rage. Anyway, thanks for replying bro
@@casmachinaa5223 I don't personally think so. What he said to the other guy was :"Hey ya damn bastard, I'll be dying first so let me see your best shot" before getting absolutely yeeted
@@casmachinaa5223no i don’t think so, i agree with the comment that replied to you and plus earlier in the series, he tries using that same technique multiple times to take his life in order to win
I don't think Gege brought Toji back just to deal with Dagon because Dagon hadn't had any fights at this point so we had no idea what he could do. If he didn't want Toji to be here he would have just written Dagon to be weaker and even if he didn't I honestly think that with Megumi showing up to turn the tide the group could have actually won and Toji kinda made things worse by stealing and then breaking Maki's weapon and beating up Megumi. Also he could have had the animation guy pull out some crazy trick since he's also not established and thus free to do anything. In terms of why he wanted Toji there I think it's both great setup for Maki and Megumi so I actually really love it.
Toji’s revival shockingly enough was meant more for the development of another zenin later on so it has a GREAT impact in the series later on but i won’t go into it because it leans into spoiler territory
The zenin were truly cursed. They are terrified of toji, he leaves the clan. Now they are paranoid of toji returning, he ends up dying. The zenin can finally rest easy knowing their terror is dead, hes back?? He died again, oh thank god, his reincarnation shows up?? It was so over for them
Avoiding spoilers for any accidental anime only passbyers but, tojis existence from hidden inventory is already enough for the zenin to know he's dangerous. Like, I really do think his appearance in shibuya was not mandatory and could have been just a reference in culling game Thanks for putting your piece in, love to hear other takes
This resurrection is to highlight maki. If your anime only I won't spoile it but we don't get Culling game Maki if it wasn't for Toji showcasing what a heavinly restricted character is like
Wont spoil it but you will find out in the culling games and to give you some hype: the double spread in the manga is top 5 hardest looking in the entire series and one of the cleanest moments in the series.
you think it's wrong to bring toji back because in the anime it's very recent when you saw him but in the manga between toji dying and reappearing more time passes. Also it's a timeskip.
do you know how many chapters passed in between? I do know that some fans think that the placement of jjk is also weird but I'm not that deep in the rabbit hole I only started to read the manga at shibuya
Idk I don't think yuji gets enough credit for his growth. He's really transformed by the end of the season as a far more mature and traumatized sorcerer.
I’ve thought for a while the Gege put the Sukuna vs Jogo fight in the story bc Jogo caused a power scaling/continuity issue for him. None of the good guys coulda survived that fight, so Sukuna had to randomly kill him for no real reason to keep him out of the fight. Same with Toji and Dagon. I couldn’t disagree more about the Mahoraga fight though, the fight was supposed to be chaos and I feel like the animation reflected that. The wide shots from across Japan right before Sukuna kill Mahoraga are EXCELLENT!!! I think this is the second greatest season of an anime ever just behind HxH Chimera Ant arc.
It’s said a domain expansion is the peak for a jujutsu sorcerer. Naobito not having one makes complete sense, as I’m pretty sure there’s only like 7-10 characters who can use one.
I think you and the people in the comments are missing something about Toji's revival. I understand why you might feel like it was a desperate, convenient choice to defeat a seemingly unbeatable villain, but there's something established in the Hidden Inventory arc that people tend to forget. Toji is referred to as "The man that broke the chains of fate", so when the old woman makes the very sensible choice to give her grandson the strongest body probably in history, she wasn't aware of the implications of a person having a heavenly restriction. The man that broke the chains of fate was brought back and he again broke said chains of fate. The fight against Dagon would've probably ended with an extremely difficult victory with the help of Megumi and his infinite bag of tricks, but at the end of the day, Megumi and Toji's fight indirectly caused sukuna to destroy Shibuya to destroy Mahoraga. That being said, even if with that context you still find it weird I understand.
The take on Toji and Dagon is weird to me. He could’ve easily wrote anyone else to win that wasn’t his only purpose. Clearly they all got wiped out right after anyway by Jogo
It's just sad that Totos black flash made 0 sense as it was previously established that, after boogey woogie, the objects retain their original velocity. The velocity doesn't get swapped so after he sweated with the thrown rock, he should've been standing still. Kinda ruins this moment for me...
The way I see there is three ways to get stronger and they show it.. you have to be on Gojo ,sukuna and toji level just to defeat them.. if not you going to die.
I think one issue you forgot was the Mei Mei v Geto fight... I mean we go from heading towards Geto to under the sheets with a minor😢... I don't mind if it was me there instead of uiui ☺☺😋. But that's besides the point 😒😑. The fight is the point 🤬
I’m stopping the video after the Toji in shibuya criticism. Not that I don’t think you’re not allowed to dislike it, I just think saying “there was no payoff” when he literally had the chance to see his own son be his own man which is more than he ever deserved and that being beyond cathartic is wrong as hell and it makes me really not want to listen to anything else you have to say.
I found it a bit more hopefully considering that Gojo is freed and there is some sort of hope to fight against sukuna whereas in shibuya, everything is really dire
Cursed Clash gameplay content Day 1 baby
I liked Toji's revival as a conclusion to his own story.
I see your point, for me, it just felt more of like a "oh cool my son isn't a zenin" just a nice happenstance
@@lansa002my view on it is that tojis only wish in life was fulfilled, he wanted his son to be a kind and good sorcerer like gojo rather than the zenin because gojo was the only sorcerer to recognize him so in a way it symbolizes him the sorcerer killer overcoming his berserker state and hatred for sorcerer's because of he can accept Megumi and love him
And the sad part is that Megumi *still* does not know who that crazy guy he fought was.
He has no idea.
Megumi became what toji wanted( being a sorcerer which means having a place in the world) and escaped everything what toji hated ( the crazy ideals of zenin and his hatred towards sorcerer having a place while he couldn't)..@@lansa002
Toji hated sorcerers because he couldn't become one. He didn't have a place like them. He didn't love being an outcast.
And I am glad they went with narrative consistency of his character and he just offed himself. Didn't create a ruckus about being father and all that because he wasn't there for him in the first place. But he was certainly glad and probably happy for the first time in his life.
Edit:- also it also makes sense toji would go for the strongest because the granny just can set conditions through seance and not control everything..and since everybody is stronger than granny and his kids it would make sense that the condition would be that he would go for the strongest if they weren't able to control the beast. And he going for dagon instantly because de uses so strong cursed energy that toji had to go there instinctively.
@@lansa002the significance of that moment was toji finally escaping from his obsession with rejecting the jujutsu sorcery and his inferiority complex from being raised as a zenin with no cursed energy/technique. he figuratively and literally freed himself when he remembered megumi and chose to kill himself to save his blessing
Toji had to be in Shibuya, he further develops the super important theme of the soul and the body, and starts of the development of Makis character and what she becomes in the culling games. Plus Shibuya develops Tojis character more, like his feelings about Megumi and his theme of being a literal haunting ghost to the Zenin (Which is also shown through Maki)
I agree with your first point.
The second point I'm a bit shakier on, I think Shibuya's main purpose was just to cause chaos, I didn't really get any vibes about him haunting the Zenin because of the fact that he went straight to kill Dagon, beat up Megumi and killed that old woman. If Toji had set his eyes on Naobito then maybe, but I didn't really see it. Fair point tho, I think thematically he is just a ghost (just not particularly aiming at the Zenin)
@lansa002 by haunting ghost, what is meant is that toji represents their greatest failure as a clan and someone who scared every clan member who knew of him to their core
@@lansa002 he had no reason to set on Naobito tho since he wasnt the strongest in that room. and plus if he did set on anyone out of spite or vengence then he isnt at his fullest potential of freedom that comes with 0CE Heavenly Restrictions. Not following your instincts was what got him killed in the first place
@@lansa002this is will make sense later
STOP SPOILING CULLING GAMES
Sukuna wasn't tanking the meteor or attacks JoGoat sent at him, he literally dodged every single one. Since that was his deal, that he wouldn't get hit by Jogo.
Used the wrong word there, felt like he probably could, thanks for watching the video!
@@lansa002 Ofc and great video as always. It's a shame the Maho vs Sukuna fight wasn't finished, it would've likely looked a lot better.
Toji was not there to beat Dagon, they were set to win after they left his domain and his CT was on CD. He was an unexpected interval to highlight the chaos of shibuya.
Were they?
Naobito lost an arm, Maki was having some issues, Megumi is gassed OUT, and Nanami is hurting after taking the shikigami fish hits. Although I'm not gonna pretend to be a powerscaler
And yeah, I agree he was fun to have around as a wild card
@@lansa002yeah it was confirmed afterwards because even though Naobito lost his arm he was still fast enough, and Dagon's CT would've been gone after the domain because afterwards the user can't use their innate technique for a while via frying of the brain, and he couldn't have used it again.
what about Jogo? he showed up right after Dagon death
@@rottingbubbles dagon was in the domain... And since gojo is sealed and not many sorcerers are around and jogo choso and mahito are free after the gojo sealing.. so the most natural progression is mahito and choso are finding yuji while jogo would look for dagon after hanamis death.. so the moment toji breaks the domain expansion after killing dagon,, toji goes after Megumi then jogo comes there cos he could feel dagon was dying or domain expansion was destroyed..so jogo comes against the other three... Again you know whats coming. Jogo incinerates them three. Now the natural progression. Zenin head dies, nanami barely survives because of the cursed energy increase in overtime, and maki survives because of heavenly restriction.. since jogo speed blitzed the other two he just lit them up to the point he thought they were dead and went all out on the last one that is zenin. Now he would complete the job but king of curses comes up.
Jogo cares more about his fellow curses more than anything. This is consistent with his conversations. He is the most human of them all. Even when he died he's happy that he finally met with hanami and dagon.. they are his family.
also it also makes sense toji would go for the strongest because the granny just can set conditions through seance and not control everything..and since everybody is stronger than granny and his kids it would make sense that the condition would be that he would go for the strongest if they weren't able to control the beast. And he going for dagon instantly because domain expansion uses so strong cursed energy that toji had to go there instinctively.
@@rottingbubbles Jogo only showed up because he sensed that Dagon had died.
I personally LOVED the Mahoraga fight. I thought it looked gorgeous regardless of it not being finished. Granted, I liked the Jogo fight better, but I thought it was really cool how messy and brutal the fight felt. I didn't have much trouble telling what was going on, and I loved how fast paced it felt. And oh my gosh, when Sukana starts taking a bow during all the destruction like it's a stage performance sent CHILLS down my spine. And, much like you said, Sukuna's domain expansion is stunning. I also really liked the aftermath with Yuji coming back to witness what Sukuna has done.
If you disregard in this instance the plot of Hidden Inventory, the first five episodes of S2 can be viewed as an introduction to the character, Toji. Otherwise narratively they wouldn’t be able to revive his character in Shibuya without that context. The rooftop curse users summoned Toji because of their own familiarity. He was a part of the underground society of curse-users, the infamous invisible man/sorcerer killer.
Entirely out of proudness against the sorcerer world, Toji wanted to take down the awakened six-eyes the pinacle of sorcery at that time. Megumi having the Fushiguro name is a fufillment of Toji’s pride against the sorcerer world, especially against his family.
He is no father-figure and understands having no entitlement. Still with pride and gratitude, the only thing he can do for his son in that moment is stopping himself from killing him.
Also without spoiling, Toji’s resurrection was foreshadowing in a couple different ways for the events to come.
This, my boi, is a good take. Agreed.
real
toji's role in shibuya isnt to serve Megumi's character, but his own. Toji died not knowing what actually happened to Megumi, and while you could argue that he didnt really care, I like to think at some level he did. He sold Megumi to the Zen'in because he knew if Megumi had talent he would be safer there, even though that ended up not happening. But Toji getting that closure knowing that Megumi grew strong in spite of the Zen'in while keeping the Fushiguro name is what makes him smile and then kill himself, because he didnt want to kill his son.
Great PFP man
I definitely think that Toji's role SHOULD have been to serve Megumi, though, because Toji was already dead and Megumi has no character arc otherwise. I like Toji's revival, but it could have been smoothed out if Megumi was affected by it more than just being slightly weirded out by the whole thing.
So Glad the Shubuya incident is getting so much love out here. It really deserves it.
Arguably one of the best pieces of content in 2023
“Really good” truly feels like an understatement
Is he supposed to say it was a masterpiece?
Toji is written as a really powerful character with a ton of agency to the story. He is so powerful that he doesn't need to wait for the story to progress to act, he causes things to progress simply by being himself. He is a force of nature in the story, something that causes change. I believe this is why it feels he has no role in shibuya or doesn't really "exist" as a character. He gets a ton of characterization in hidden inventory/premature death, enough to the point where I think he doesn't need more in shibuya. Toji's story is finished by the time he is revived, we already saw his conclusion when he was defeated by Gojo: he came to terms with his life and realized he wasted it by fighting a losing battle with no real point. There isn't much to work with in shibuya except for the fact that megumi is there. Toji sees that he didn't actually waste his life because he created a son that wouldn't suffer the same fate as him, which reminds him that he doesn't need to fight anymore and leads to his second death.
This comment right here ^^ 🤌🤌 well put
Shibuya was fried, fractured and f*^ked.
Definitely my favorite adaption ever. Except the JJK fandom totally ruined so many moments with spoilers and leaks.
Haha jup. The jjk fandom is awsome as long as your are caught up to the manga. If not they are horrible and you should stay away at all costs
@@jcp1296 nah as someone who's caught up w the manga, i still think the fandom sucks, respectfully. 😭 where do these guys keep getting the leaks from for the next chapter? 💀 they care about powerscaling way too much and their reading comprehension is in the gutter. they state headcanon as the truth time and time again
@@exo.dus.1180 yeah but that shit's funny tho
cool video. I loved the sprite chillin in the living room haha
Thank you! I tried to find something to channel my energy and the cat just happened to be it.
i was 25 minutes in before i saw how little views you had. this is really well done. (also i think todo might be the new goat, more than jogo)
I'm just a guy who likes making some content :)
And thanks for the compliment! I appreciate people liking the stuff I make.
Todo is the fugging G but I mean he lost a hand sooo...
Personally, I absolutely love the animation of ep 17. I love all the kinda imperfect but still flowing animation style, and I think that it was one of the better animated episodes, at least better animated than most of the season 1 episodes.
Just found your channel, really good review! Im not a manga reader but I do hope you'll make more jjk vids in the future!
Hey thanks I appreciate the compliment! I got two other vids cooking up in the back burner so just hold on :)
You should ask a question
Is anime good because of Shibuya Arc or Shibuya Arc good because of Anime.
You managed to get a solid laugh out of me with this comment, very good
This actually makes sense since Shibuya is so good because it's a 180 of season 1 with all the ideals shattered.
Shibuya arc was good in the manga, and then the anime adapted a previously good arc, but the anime is good outside of the scope of shibuya so no neither
Ive never loved a show so much until now. Literally everything ive ever wanted into a show, perfect action, dialogue with emotional scenes. 9/10
solid agree, 9/10, probably the best thing from 2023
One thing about Toji, you could argue that he was there to injure Megumi enough so that when Haruta attacked him, he needed to bring out Mahoraga, so that Sukuna would jump in and destroy Shibuya, which causes an important moment for Yuji.
4:45 i would have loved if toji even said something as simple as "yeah mines too" to megumi giving his last name
Toji’s revival is also the reason megumi had to summon mahoraga. If Toji hadn’t stabbed megumi he wouldn’t have been in such a bad state and could’ve fought off the blonde little shit on his own, but because of his injury’s he chose to try to take down the curse user along with him, causing the destruction of shibuya in the fight between mahoraga and sukuna.
Good content from a new creator? That’s dope. Good video man.
Edit: I subscribed
27:45 Yuji definitely progressed exponentially throughout the series. He went from barely being up to keep up with a 2nd grade curse in S1 Ep1 (albeit before cursed energy) to going toe to toe with a final form Mahito over the span of months
You can definitely tell that the Sukuna Vs Mahoraga fight was supposed to be something much grander and more comprehensive than what we got. It’s was great, but it was supposed to be better. One of the best things ever, even.
Damn that god awful schedule MAPPA put them under for this season.
I completely agree, and the issue I have is that MAPPA is burdening itself with more projects like the CSM movie and Hell's Paradise. I mean Hell's Paradise had some really bad animation at specific points in the first season
@@lansa002they burned them selves by starting production in December and buying timeslots in July for hidden inventory
They dragged it already compared to the manga where sukuna looked like he was bullying it. Mapa employees are butthurt they weren’t allowed to butcher it with extra filler
Nah the best part is yuji and his convenient chasing majito in the snow all in black cloaks just like lowtiergod envisioned
Bro stop my fucking sides lmaooo
This was the funniest way I've ever heard the I am you scene described lmfao. ''Me and my covenant, all in black cloaks, chasing you down in the snow.''
Nothing will be funnier than phobes pretending Gojo and Geto were roommates even after Geto's body *rebels* against the brain. The thousand-year old brain that says he's never seen anything like this in his life.
The thousand year old brain is pretty sassy tbh
Spoiler
Well tbf that same thousand year old brain also beat yuji's mom pretty easily so he clearly has some counter to the power of love. Or maybe she was into that who knows. Her husband was for sure. (My hc is that kenny just never posessed such a strong sorcerer before bdw)
I personally just feel like them being lovers is not even a close enough word to describe their bond. I'd personally just call them soulmates, a pair so utterly entwined that they go beyond friendship or romance. A quite literally indescribable level of closeness. Dude was literally dead and had his body possessed, then the instant he heard Gojo's voice it was on sight. That's CRAZY.
@@anusaukko6792I see them as soulmates too. Whether it was Romantic or Platonic isn’t really important. They weren’t just friends or lovers they are eachothers everything.
They were good friends period dont make ot weird
Good review!
I loved how the narrator said that Toji was fighting of pure instinct and that he always targets the strongest because after he was done with Dagon he immediately went after Megumi. That really set my expactations high for Megumi and now that Ive caught up to the manga...
Dude it was sooo good, I espacially loved todo, he just can't miss. His speach about the chiming bells still lives in my head and his black flash was glorious. Shame we won't get to see him (or nanamis brother(?)) again, at least for a really long time. Only thing I didn't like as much was the finale, it felt like setup for the next season without much extra substance exept for the yuta stuff and kenny's yapping
3:26
Sorry Naobito, from this day on you’ll be known as Frames man
I just keep faith for mappa because the story just gets better from here
Culling Games is just straight chaos
I can't wait, some of my fav fights are in there
@@lansa002 really and the build up to one of the most major fights is to good, just trying not to say much for any anime only watchers respectfully
Lol, what? It's widely acknowledged that the story gets worse as it's just fight after fight.
@@za-ir5ningl of its just fight after fight I'm here for it lmfao
@@za-ir5ni i disagree, it may be fight after fight but it doesn't make the story worse in any way. it's just not really focused on any emotional aspect, more so trying to figure out how to survive the culling games and beat kenny
Yuji not doing much growimg is wild though. Yuji's evolution was much quieter. At the start, yuji was getting bullied by a baby special grade, and going from that to being able to fight on par and better than sorcerers like nanami and todo to face mahito shows yuji's ridiculous growth rate in a short amount of time. Every black flash is similar to a zenkai from dragonball, giving him a massive boost.
now we are ready for Culling Game Arc
I don’t think the people are ready for it chief
There is a common thing between the scene of fake Geto choking himself and Toji recovering his own body: the duality of body and soul. The controversy around the prevalence of one over the other is one of the main themes of the series, in my opinion, and it gives meaning to Toji's revival. Sukuna mentions the soul and the nature of the cursed energy a lot, so I know that it will come out in the long run. Maybe the true understanding of the soul and its inherent relation to the body is what allows Sukuna to manipulate his form and perform the way he does at sourcery.
Thinking about it, the toji's revival scene is also important for two reasons: to consolidate the importance and significance of megumi's roots and to introduce the possibility of retaking ones body from the reminiscence of the soul, which may be a important topic further, when (spoiler) sukuna takes megumi's body and subsumed his soul. In any case, it's nice to pre establish that possibility because it would also legitimate the incapacity to nail it in megumi's case due to the amount of suffering he passed through.
Where you go I go. What you see I see. I know I’d never be me, without the security
Toji had to be in Shibuya for one specific reason aside from closure with Megumi. that one reason is Maki. We're told that he's Maki fully realized. And Maki now sees a glimpse of what that would be
Others have started expressing this recently as the season was ending, but I wish we were given more centering the characters before the Shibuya Arc. It makes sense why narrativley Gege went with the decision to have everything go do so fast, but viewers aren't able to connect to characters we met like technically a couple of episodes ago counting both seasons because they're gone so quickly.
Shibuya felt like a middle point in a longer story but they didn't have the materials to make it as impactful
Yeah, i think it's just the way things are now given tiktok brain, we see it all the time where a series (jjk included) has a first season and gets compared to the love people had for shows they watched 200-1000 eps of (naruto, one piece, etc). The shows back in the day had way more time to get to know characters in a chill out mode and now people complain if the series "doesnt live up to the hype" or it gets cancelled if not every chapter is a banger. Hence we get constant fights. Think about this, in one piece or bleach in 50 eps we didnt have this hype action or fights or big deaths...yet people claim jjk is not enough and needs to go harder. Some say its underwhelming and so on. people's expectations are so hard to please and the need for bigger and better faster is causing stories to feel fast paced and lifeless. JJK is still good and you can tell gege has to use the shortcuts of us filling in the down time and that characters are cool with each other like that part where one character removes lint from another or they go to the movies together etc. Chainsman part two just slowed down and people ragg on it. Before people ragged that its too fast and they feel nothing, now its too slow and they dont care for introspective stuff and want it all to get on with it. Its very hard to make a story now as the pot of criticism is so abundant we used to just read and move on now if something is not perfect 100 videos ragg on it and make people who liked it think its trash etc. COnclusion, i just think we all caused this issue you said and i agree with you but i get why gege did it this way. He was supposely gonna get canceled and sped things up...within a few chapters and look at him now. PS: people say jjk or demon slayer are just liked for animation and they have no story or its basic etc, but if true we'd make all shonen with animes and just add flashy animation. plenty of stories arent doing well even with animes because the story doesnt resonate. Fast pacing and cool animation cant hid an uninteresting cast, setting, theme, plot, action, power system, etc.
They were about to escape Dagon's domain safely.
Im commenting off of no.10 alone, as I still have to watch the rest… however I wanted to explain my perspective of why I think Toji being brought back through the seance tech was actually excellent writing and plot setup.
Firstly, granny used seance and it back firing was excellent. It gives the first true insight into how powerful Heavenly Restriction is. Then, when he arrives to fight Dagon, aside from the amazing fight sequence, this is the first time Maki gets the opportunity to see the full potential of Heavenly Restrixtion, even though she didn’t know. Then after Dagon, he fights megumi… which Gege uses to highlight that Megumi is stronger than the rest of the other sorcerers (he instinctively bared his fangs at the strongest around). So nice quality setup for megumi. Finally, after seeing megumi fight stragetically and staring dead into his eyes, he recalls that look and remembers his kid. It’s like amazing amazing writing imo. From setups to maki, pure peak toji (in hidden inventory he wasn’t peak), and then part 1 closure with megumi.
WAITING FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT TODO ANND ALMIGHT ATTACK
It’s number 3 because how could we forget about Todo Might!?!?
Let us remember, the episodes were absolutely amazing and beautiful specially considering that animators almost die trying to deliver the episodes.
Hopefully for next season they can work on the episodes before the season start, just as the first season. That way episodes will be finished without animators dying trying to deliver final cuts on time.
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awww you're too kind, thank you!
Where did you get the gojo is in love with geto??
4:27 idk man sounds like a good dad to me
Tojis revival felt a bit more meaningful for me. He said to Gojo that Megumi would get sold off to the zenin clan and to do with that what he will. Imo I think it was done really well with Toji being broughy back by the old ladys technique, only for his soul to win (skill issue) go on a bit of a rampage, and then realize last second that he was fighting his own son and couldn't control it. So it kinda makes sense he game ended himself but oh well thats just my opinion \_(:/)_/
I like Toji's inclusion as both arcs he is around in is where shit hits the fan.
As a manga reader, toji picking megumi after killing dagon and the narrator said toji's instincts is only to fight the strongest, made sense after the latest arc. Megumi's shikigami is one of the strongest techniques out there. I like after seeing that scene why sukuna liked megumi from the start.
I am usually strongly agains characters being revived, but I loved the toji part for two reasons:
1.- Watching him again is straight up amazing. The beating he gave to dagon and the entire persuit of Megumi are really enjoyable.
2-' Adds to the theme of one chosing his own destiniy. JJK and specially the Sibuya Arc have a lot of commentary on "what meaning does death have?". Seeing how Toji sees his wish fulfilled after death give us the viewer hope that maybe sometime the desires of all who were left behind will come, eventually even if they are not there to see it.
also- SLIGHT MANGA SPOILERS- we know that the soul is extremely important in jjk for multiple reasons, i think tojis “body” being strong enough to overtake a soul will later come up when more about the soul and how it relates to cursed energy is revealed
Bro… there’s no way you thought sukuma vs mahoraga was messy. That was my favorite fight in anime period, spectacle wise. It was very impressive to me that they managed to successfully capture the chaos of such a fight while still making it possible to clearly follow. Now I will say there were a few scenes that DEFINITELY could’ve been done better to clear up what just happened. But I personally only found like a handful. I definitely suggest you rewatch the fight. The level of detail in it was immense.
agreed, fight was beautiful
I'm happy to see I'm not the only one who thought the Mahoraga fight wasn't good.
So let me try to understand your thoughts on Gojo and Geto relationship; because they show great friendship, comradery and rivalry towards each other, care about each other, maybe even love each other, they must be gay for each other? It that regard, anyone who has had a same sex best friend or even a close friend MUST be gay for each other?
i guess the sarcasm couldn't be heard
Yuji progresses like crazy. He just doesn't have those big landmarks like a domain expansion. But my boy is already way stronger than toji and is a sorcerer for like a year or even less
you want to know what’s crazy? Yuji consumes his first finger in June 2018. Shibuya Incident was the following Halloween that year. A couple of months as a first year and is recommended for 1st grade, then not long after that slated for immediate execution.
I just think the point being when compared to Mahito it is crazy how the villain is getting the more apparent growth to the audience while yuji is more subtle but also still not getting his domain. I think that’s why I like the difference between them
Kenjaku isn’t a cursed spirit he’s a ancient sorcerer who’s ability allows him to body hop
I think Toji return was well written,
He wanted Megumi to not be a Zenin and having Gojo fulfll that wish meant he was at peace and possibly unsure of how his revival would work as he is back but almost controlled by the desire to kill the strongest sorcerer.
Him killing himself was the first selfless thing he has ever done reallt
JJK is meant as a full piece and not to be broken down by arcs. You will see in future chapters Toji is just a part of the consistent explanation of the corruption of Jujutsu society with the Zenin clan being at the center of that, serving as inspiration for both Megumi AND Maki’s best moments. The way he was reintroduced further illustrates aspects of one of those central questions: which comes first, the soul or the body. To say there’s no payoff would be to overlook his backstory moments entirely.
Yuji was suffering because he always holding back from the beginning til now
Now he's straight gas
Bro the type of guy to pick bulbasaur over the other two starters
“The culling game is fortnite.” Is the most cursed shit I’ve ever heard.
I have heard someone say that they have heard from a interview with Gege Akutami, that the Geto situation is unfortunate more like an animal reacting after being decapitated rather than a sort of consciousness, so unfortunately I don’t think he will be reawakened after Kenjaku’s brain is out. It’s more like a decapitated animal’s unconscious actions or body reacting by itself.
That's actually a really interesting comment! Well sucks that Geto wouldnt probably come back, the only thing that's weird is the body still moved after like years instead of an immediate death but I guess it's supposed to be more metaphorical
@@lansa002 I guess so
Regarding the "I am you" comments in the anime, I think it was more talking about how Mahito mercilessly kills humans while Yuji does the exact same thing to Cursed Spirits, slaughtering them without a second thought. Which is why it's so scary to Mahito when Yuji admits it, cause he's staring at the Cursed Spirit equivalent of a serial killer
Well, if you read the manga you'll understand that toji's revival is fundamental to maki's development
(I yap abt something not that deep don’t mind me)
Mahito has a bag so deep his growth is incredibly obvious, and lends itself to group fights but Yujis actually grown a good bit more than Mahito has, at least as of chapters 212-216 ish.
The events of those chapters along with the book he gets from Yuki and it’s contents(manga readers know, anime onlys don’t need to no spoilers plz) make me believe that after that point if Mahito spawned in again full power he’d get absolutely violated. (It is debatable but the reason why is spoilers)
Regardless of who’d win that hypothetical, Yujis growth is higher than Mahitos is simply bc he lived longer than Him, and was on his tail their entire fight outside key moments. while Yuji would’ve died without todo in that moment, throughout their fight he was showing that he was able to keep up in a 1v1. It got progressively harder as the fight went on but not because Mahito was growing faster than him but because yuji already had a mental nerf from Sukunas actions and Mahito exploited it and used it to cripple him. Once he had his head in the game he was able to keep up and even show relativity to ascended Mahito. Neither were at full power and if Yuji didn’t land the black flash right after his domain, the fact he did lends itself to the idea he was able to go blow for blow. He out battle IQ’d him in their final clash, that divergent fist countered what Mahito was doing to counter Yujis full power final black flash by throwing off his timing and offsetting his balance. He even went “I win” in his head before so we know he didn’t have a counter to that in mind. Todo hitting cleanest fake out just gave Yuji the chance to steal him from the side cleanly so the attack would hit harder.
After that Mahitos bag was finally empty and Yuji could still box box, even running up on Geto after and tanking a bunch of curses jumping him, and was frozen.
Mahito could have kept up or lapped Yuji in the culling games if he was in them but he wasn’t unfortunately(good fuck that greasy mf)
Tojis revival was there for Maki, not megumi. Maki seeing toji was a massive inspiration to the heights she could possibly reach. He definitely wasnt inserted solely to solve the dagon problem
I would’ve loved them to have Toji realize megumi was not taking the zenin name, and then flee the scene with a smile, just to come back to the culling games arc to help rescue Gojo for taking care of his son. (Obviously hasn’t read the manga so idk if he comes back or not)
This would suck highkey
Good thing you are not writing this because this makes no sense.
Mahito was a baby cursed spirit. He just looked more evolved due to his humanoid form but we gotta remember he was a newly born basically at the beginning of the story. If he somehow survived Yuji and Kenjaku hadn’t absorbed him, he could’ve become something far more powerful and dangerous, he could’ve basically also turned the whole world with his idle transfiguration, the fact that he doesn’t is just because at thar point he didn’t know he could or how to or still lacked power to do it, but Kenjaku had 1000+ years of knowledge and manipulation to do it 🤷🏻♀️.
12:10 What’s inhabiting Geto’s body isn’t a cursed spirit
18:20 Are you questioning if Todo is able to use Reverse Cursed Technique or be healed by someone that does (Shoko)? If it’s the former, Todo doesn’t have that ability
Yeah boogie is dead
No mention of Naname death? One of the saddest scenes in an anime.
it was a masterpiece, culling games will even be more spectaculer
I’m ready for yuji and megumi to drop into tilted towers in Fortnite
Dude, Jogo vs. Sukuna, and Gojo getting captured are my top 2 picks. I'm not saying you're wrong for putting them at 8 and 7, but... mine is correct-er.
(Disclaimer, this is a joke, but yeah, those are my actual top 2.)
Some opinions:
First of all, introducing Toji to Shibuya was perfect. His impact on Shibuya as a whole was perfect, and so was Toji's story as a whole and the way he died. It fit Toji's character, he wouldn't keep living, it wouldn't be like him. Second, the fight with Dagon was perfect for Megumi's character development. When Megumi doesn't attempt to summon Mahoraga after the tiniest inconvience shows how much he's grown since the third episode. I also love how he did eventually summon Mahoraga for such a low level enemy. Him doing that was a way of acknowledging defeat, as well as giving a final "screw you" to the person who was gonna take him out. I don't have much to say about Choso and Yuji besides how close it was, in terms of range and who won. Jogo vs Sukuna was absolutely insane, not only does it show, the absolute insane power difference, it shows how Sukuna will act fair in a fight, shown by him not revealing his secret in his final duel with Jogo. It shows how someone as evil and narsistic as Sukuna will fight fair in order to cure boredom.
Honestly, Geto choking Kenjaku was amazing, not just because of the emotions, but because of Kenjaku's reaction to it, being shocked, amazed, and suprised. I don't like the Mechamaru vs Mahito fight, due to Mechamaru's motivation to betraying Jujutsu High. His motivations were kinda lame, they had no risk behind this and it makes it less entertaining. If Kenjaku and Mahito kidnapped Miwa and potentially offed her in front of Mechamaru, it'd lead to Mechamaru losing his crap, possibly beating Mahito so bad and quickly that he can't use idle transfiguration, leading to Kenjaku intervening. Anyway, peace.
Meant to reply to this earlier, it's the big kahuna;
1. Toji's impact on Shibuya is minimal, at least in terms of the payoffs. It's not like Toji had a masterplan of coming back to life, it was just a coincidence that the hunters used his DNA in particular. I do believe that his inclusion was a nice example of Gege's chaos in writing actualized but that's the most I really rake it up too.
2. The Dagon battle with Megumi over the domain was just more of a way to allow his friends to escape, at least that's the way I chalked it up to be. Although I do admit, even when I read the manga that Megumi using it as the metaphorical "middle finger" against Shigemo was really great.
3. I mean Mechamaru's anger and disdain is shown in the first season when he's just mad at his situation when being stuck in the bathtub, which I just felt sorry for him. Like the only other way to be healed is by working with the villains, which I found to be a pretty reasonable agreement. The whole risk of the Mechamaru and Mahito fight was whether Mechamaru could reasonably beat Mahito, which did offer a pretty strong degree of tension because he was already fighting at the edge, he was fighting to see Miwa again.
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@@lansa002I 100% agree with you on the first point and thats why it was perfect. Toji just ran with it, instead of asking questions which fits his character as a whole. Toji's character revolves around being quick and effecient without needless fights and or interactions, which made it perfect when he realised Megumi kept his name. Although, I do disagree with you regarding Mechamaru. I personally feel as Mechamaru's pain was chalked up his despair regarding the situation, not himself entirely. During the fight with Mahito, he really didn't have any drive which is why Mahito killing or injuring Miwa would be perfect. I'm just imagining a Mahito who's holding back for fun just get slammed and comboed by Mechamaru whos in a fit of rage.
Anyway, thanks for replying bro
I think Magumi summoned Mahoraga cus he felt Sukunas presence
@@casmachinaa5223 I don't personally think so. What he said to the other guy was :"Hey ya damn bastard, I'll be dying first so let me see your best shot" before getting absolutely yeeted
@@casmachinaa5223no i don’t think so, i agree with the comment that replied to you and plus earlier in the series, he tries using that same technique multiple times to take his life in order to win
15:00 No simple domains were used in Dagon’s domain
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did bro just say that getos daughter fed all the fingers to sukuna bro this man is reading cliff notes
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I don't think Gege brought Toji back just to deal with Dagon because Dagon hadn't had any fights at this point so we had no idea what he could do. If he didn't want Toji to be here he would have just written Dagon to be weaker and even if he didn't I honestly think that with Megumi showing up to turn the tide the group could have actually won and Toji kinda made things worse by stealing and then breaking Maki's weapon and beating up Megumi. Also he could have had the animation guy pull out some crazy trick since he's also not established and thus free to do anything. In terms of why he wanted Toji there I think it's both great setup for Maki and Megumi so I actually really love it.
Honestly can’t wait to rewatch feel like I really overlook mechamaru and mahito cause I was so excited for shibyua
It's glossed over because of the sheer amount of content in shibuya tbf
Toji’s revival shockingly enough was meant more for the development of another zenin later on so it has a GREAT impact in the series later on but i won’t go into it because it leans into spoiler territory
The zenin were truly cursed.
They are terrified of toji, he leaves the clan.
Now they are paranoid of toji returning, he ends up dying.
The zenin can finally rest easy knowing their terror is dead, hes back??
He died again, oh thank god, his reincarnation shows up??
It was so over for them
Avoiding spoilers for any accidental anime only passbyers but, tojis existence from hidden inventory is already enough for the zenin to know he's dangerous. Like, I really do think his appearance in shibuya was not mandatory and could have been just a reference in culling game
Thanks for putting your piece in, love to hear other takes
@@mattimeikalainen6963 Well it's more like they keep cursing themselves lol all of those are completely their own fault
@@lansa002 not really cuz one particular Zen'in wasnt in the Hidden Inventory arc
This resurrection is to highlight maki. If your anime only I won't spoile it but we don't get Culling game Maki if it wasn't for Toji showcasing what a heavinly restricted character is like
I wonder what happens in a 3 way domain class with ppl around the same strength
Wont spoil it but you will find out in the culling games and to give you some hype: the double spread in the manga is top 5 hardest looking in the entire series and one of the cleanest moments in the series.
@@ianharrison5758my goat for not spoiling it ngl
you think it's wrong to bring toji back because in the anime it's very recent when you saw him but in the manga between toji dying and reappearing more time passes. Also it's a timeskip.
do you know how many chapters passed in between? I do know that some fans think that the placement of jjk is also weird but I'm not that deep in the rabbit hole
I only started to read the manga at shibuya
@@lansa002 he dies at chapter 75 then comes back 22 chapters later. almost 6 months later excluding weeks when the manga didn't release a new chapter.
Idk I don't think yuji gets enough credit for his growth. He's really transformed by the end of the season as a far more mature and traumatized sorcerer.
I’ve thought for a while the Gege put the Sukuna vs Jogo fight in the story bc Jogo caused a power scaling/continuity issue for him. None of the good guys coulda survived that fight, so Sukuna had to randomly kill him for no real reason to keep him out of the fight. Same with Toji and Dagon. I couldn’t disagree more about the Mahoraga fight though, the fight was supposed to be chaos and I feel like the animation reflected that. The wide shots from across Japan right before Sukuna kill Mahoraga are EXCELLENT!!! I think this is the second greatest season of an anime ever just behind HxH Chimera Ant arc.
The only thing that bothers me about the Degon fight is that the old Zenin guy didn't have a domain expansion. Like, he's the head of the zenin clan.
It’s said a domain expansion is the peak for a jujutsu sorcerer. Naobito not having one makes complete sense, as I’m pretty sure there’s only like 7-10 characters who can use one.
I appreciate you not spoiling the anime by talking about the manga.
i think jjk still has some gems and should be enjoyed by all
Maybe shoko can heal to-dos arm
Is the dimming on blu rays?
I’m assuming no
I don't know if you're anime only, but Toji's revival has very strong indirect consequences later on in the story.
,,getting redpilled by fem-Magneto over here...'' the best description i have ever heard of yuki
I think you and the people in the comments are missing something about Toji's revival.
I understand why you might feel like it was a desperate, convenient choice to defeat a seemingly unbeatable villain, but there's something established in the Hidden Inventory arc that people tend to forget.
Toji is referred to as "The man that broke the chains of fate", so when the old woman makes the very sensible choice to give her grandson the strongest body probably in history, she wasn't aware of the implications of a person having a heavenly restriction. The man that broke the chains of fate was brought back and he again broke said chains of fate.
The fight against Dagon would've probably ended with an extremely difficult victory with the help of Megumi and his infinite bag of tricks, but at the end of the day, Megumi and Toji's fight indirectly caused sukuna to destroy Shibuya to destroy Mahoraga.
That being said, even if with that context you still find it weird I understand.
The take on Toji and Dagon is weird to me. He could’ve easily wrote anyone else to win that wasn’t his only purpose. Clearly they all got wiped out right after anyway by Jogo
It's just sad that Totos black flash made 0 sense as it was previously established that, after boogey woogie, the objects retain their original velocity. The velocity doesn't get swapped so after he sweated with the thrown rock, he should've been standing still.
Kinda ruins this moment for me...
The way I see there is three ways to get stronger and they show it.. you have to be on Gojo ,sukuna and toji level just to defeat them.. if not you going to die.
Couldn't they just make a prosthetic hand/arm for Todo? If it'd imbued with cursed energy, couldn't he use Boogie Woogie again?
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mahoraga vs sukuna was insane cus like the domain expation part was lit u fell me cuh
stop typing like a roadman, it's lame
I think one issue you forgot was the Mei Mei v Geto fight... I mean we go from heading towards Geto to under the sheets with a minor😢... I don't mind if it was me there instead of uiui ☺☺😋. But that's besides the point 😒😑. The fight is the point 🤬
yo great video! this comment is edited sense it was a spoiler
They haven’t said his name yet in the anime, not trying to spoil anime only watchers
wait but i thought like for sure they dropped his name? here give me a minute
@@lansa002
nah ok, just looked through the scene i thought he got named dropped, he didn't, was thinking about the scene in ep 46@@lansa002
I’m stopping the video after the Toji in shibuya criticism. Not that I don’t think you’re not allowed to dislike it, I just think saying “there was no payoff” when he literally had the chance to see his own son be his own man which is more than he ever deserved and that being beyond cathartic is wrong as hell and it makes me really not want to listen to anything else you have to say.
tbh the end of the culling games is the most depressing point in the story for me
I found it a bit more hopefully considering that Gojo is freed and there is some sort of hope to fight against sukuna
whereas in shibuya, everything is really dire
@@lansa002 fair point, its just megumi being possessed and having to see his sister die that did it for me