Herman Miller Aeron Review: My Opinion 3 Years Later
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Three years ago, we did our first review of the highly coveted Herman Miller Aeron. Since then, Ryan has been actively trying to love the Aeron chair and make it his daily driver. Over this long period, he has come to realize that it's not the Aeron, but him that his been the problem. Learn what Ryan loves and what he can't quite seem to fall in love with in this video.
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Herman Miller Aeron - (OfficeDesigns)
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0:32 Price
1:27 Build Quality
1:42 Adjustments
6:42 Comfort
9:26 Honest Opinion
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Comfort is a highly individual thing. Chairs are like shoes. What is perfect for one person's feet can be a nightmare for another person's feet. And while you can be lucky and find the perfect fit on first try-on, usually it takes a while sitting in a chair to work out whether it works for your body. That's why a good return policy is critical.
Very well said
I have old and new Aerons side by side and one issue for me with the new one is that the mesh is noticeable more stretchy I can feel the plastic edges more on the seat and on the top of the back (even my older aerons are about 8 years old). I was not sure if it was expected, checked local store and indeed, it was firmer. I requested a replacement for these parts and it became better (maybe my first one had some defective part), but still not as firm as the old one. 2nd issue, seat on the C size has sharper edge under the legs, smaller models have smoother edge. I though it was some kind of defect, but found the same thing in the local store.
Excellent review.
Have it for 3 months, amazing. First 2 weeks were painful at the edges of my thighs, but then, damn. I can stay sit for 6 or 8h without any pain. My back is thankful.
Did to thigh pain go away? That is why I am sending mine back.
What do you think about neue chair from secredlab. I still think im hoing to get the gesture but just found out about this chair.
To avoid the leg fatigue under my thighs I use the forward tilt function along with a foot riser to reduce the pressure. I’m seated usually 6-9 hrs a day. Also the Atlas headrest was a great investment. Reclining to meditate in this chair is amazing!
I have the same pain which makes it unusable for me. Which foot riser did you buy? The foam ones or adjustable ones?
@@Mete897 Yes I purchased a foam foot riser. Goal here is elevating the height of the knees. The lower your thighs rest the more your thighs may bury into the plastic edge of the seat, causing the leg fatigue sensation. Height of the foam is dependent on your preference. So I can’t suggest a brand. You can try stacking books 📚 under your feet to gauge how high you want your foot foam cushion to be. Hope this helps.
How high is the seat off the ground when the chair is in it's lowest position?
Does the polished aluminium get scratched 🧐 , is the standard base better?
Who else already bought a Herman Miller Aeron and is just watching videos about it to affirm and marvel at your purchase.
exactly what i'm doing right now lmaooo
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Hi btod! Got to say I appreciate all the videos you guys give because all of them have given me an insight upon chairs.
I didn't think chairs could be so in depth but here I am.
So I've been wondering what chair would be good for me I've scrolled so many videos on your page on multiple chairs, going through your tier lists as well and I'm still not sure what's best for me, maybe because I haven't been to a physical store yet which I plan to do soon so i can test them out but even if I do the stores don't have every chair so that's gonna be a hassle.
So, I just moved into my new house, I've got a room now and I'm about to go full time with my work and hobbies which mostly depends on my computer so I'm gonna be spending alot of time sitting.
And all I've used is a wooden dining chair or I just sit on the floor I've never purchased any chair that costs so much.
But I don't mind about the money I just want it to be worth it.
I'm the type of person that moves alot in my chair when im working or focusing on something or even when im gaming whenever I have the time for it.
I don't know why but I really switch in multiple positions in the span of an hour I might've went through cross leg, straight 90, hunch back, flat out and hugging my legs etc
So I do know that these chairs are to force you into a very healthy position but is there a chair that feels comfortable even if you're in any other position?
I also think a chair that has a good recline and rocking motion would really suit me because of my hyper movement so that could be a factor to upon for me.
A headrest is optional but I tend to think that stress will be added onto my next if there isn't a head rest.
I was thinking of getting the Aeron but when i learned that seat isn't the type where it can move I was cautious, the leap v2 looks really nice but I don't know if it'll suit me
Because of the rocking and recline test seems to be minimal.
The gesture seems to fit the most flexible and economical category but how's the recline and rocking?
I've also had my eye on a more cheaper option like the Neue chair or is it called the Triiger? I would also love to know more about this chair because not many have talked about it and you guys have the best reviews!
Thank you if you do see this!
Which chair did you get? I recently got 2 Ferns.
Just got the Aeron. Near perfect for me. Would recommend people try it before buying.
Only complaint is when I rock back, the seat seems to be scratching against the mesh. Anyone experience the same?
took out the lumbbar support and its much better now! thanks for the idea, it was strange to do at first bc who even wants to take features off
Hi, urgent opinion needed, I'm about to pull the trigger on a HM, I need comfort and softness and customizability, would you recommend Aeron or Mirra 2? I'm getting a corporate used deal at discounted prices of about 320$ for Aeron and 250$ for Mirra 2
hello) and what do you say about the chair okamura contessa seconda - maybe you have a usage report?
what is better:
- herman miller aeron
- okamura contessa seconda
Still love my Aeron v2 with Engineered Now headrest after 3 years, but I know its not a chair for everyone. Another good video from BTOD!!!
Hi Ryan. I’m deciding whether to get a Size B or C. The official size chart shows I’m a size B - 170cm/62kg. The Size B seat fits me just nice with not much extra space but B’s backrest seems to be “too fitting” to my back, as I can somehow feel both sides of the frame at the narrowest part of the backrest (somewhere near armrests area), although the salesperson assured me that my body is still within the mesh by appearance and not touching the frame.
Size C is of course wider overall, but the lumbar support is less ‘intense’ compared to B. Which size suits me more?
7:10 so no other office chair as a smooth recline? i thought only the steelcase chairs have a friction to prevent rocking smoothly.
Great review guys, would love to see a review of the haworth zody
Thank you! Yes we are -GK
Great video nice setup but can you do a follow up especially on the Herman miller chair I’ve been through 4 chairs now last ones the razer one where the lumbar has movement yeah it’s painful I don’t like using my setup sometimes because I know so reviews on that chair please
I used one for years. I freakin' love it. my knees, hip and spine are messed up and the Aeron is the ONLY chair I want to sit in.
Thank you for the review - you brought up some essential stuff which helped me decide whether or not to get this chair
kind of unrelated, but have you heard of or reviewed any "OfficeStar" ergonomic chairs? Up here in Canada options are limited for low/midrange ergonomic chairs and they seem to have affordable options offering decent adjustability.
We haven't reviewed any of them on the channel, but sold the Office Star line for over a decade. A lot of their chairs are similar, what are you interested in? -GK
Did you try the Size C?
Will you guys be doing a similar review (2 or 3 year) for the Gesture? Curious to know your thoughts over the years for the Gesture if anything changed from your original review
Yes. We should have it live in a few weeks -GK
Thanks for the helpful vid.
I am curious - what size chair is that? From afar, it looks a bit on the smaller side for you. Did you try the next size up? Maybe I am wrong, but that could change the way you are able to move in the chair. Do let me know, if you can, as I am really interested in getting this chair for me.
By the way, I currently have the very affordable Modway Articulate Mesh Office Chair, which was $152 when I bought it in Feb., 2021, but it is very limited in many ways; and I have actually tried the Aeron in the HM store and found it quite comfortable and impressive with all of its features, especially the recline tension which you accurately describe as similar to a rocking chair.
The chair in the video is a size B. I have used the size C. We have a few here. The problem for me with the size C is that it is quite a bit deeper in the seat compared to the B, so it is a bit too big for me there. I do like the extra width in the seat and the larger backrest on the C though. I think I am probably in between sizes for the perfect fit with the seat depth. -RB
Despite what people say I absolutely love my Aeron. I am lucky in the sense that I am a good size for my size chair, meaning I don’t experience a lot of the issues people bring up with the plastic frame against my legs etc.
As for the chair deciding how you sit, it’s like being on a diet. A diet doesn’t say eat healthy when you feel like it and eat a bunch of junk when you feel like it. This chair forces you to sit in a way that will repair your posture and lead to better comfort/less need to reposition yourself over time.
That being said if you are not the right “shape” for this chair and are experiencing pains and annoyances then you should definitely just get a different chair.
If you are thinking about trying it don’t let bad experiences seem like the norm. This is not the chair for everyone but if it IS the chair for you then you will love it. Try it for yourself and take advantage of that return period!
I think a lot of people would agree with you and also love the Aeron.
I like the way you look at the diet and your chair. The only problem is that is exactly how people diet :) But sitting in good posture is the best way to go long term. Also getting out of the chair when you can to move around or just stand is also a great way to have a better sitting experience. Just sit less!
-GK
Hah, that is true. Even if I believe in a diet that worked for me it may not work for someone else. Cheers and thanks for another great video.
the best posture is the next posture so i have to disagree with you on that analogy. id like to have options to shift posture frequently
When you have to sit in 1 position for 8hours that is not healthy. Which is why he said he can't use it since he can't cross their legs or whatever. I'm a bit smaller at 5'9 then the host so I can still cross but it is hard. Eitherway the human body isnt meant to be kept in a static position and the host is 100% spot on for many this isn't a good chair. I can already hear people saying 'well stand for a few minutes' but don't understand a temporary movement to 'work around' the problem is not a solution. I did get a H.Miller chair (or something very similar) like this at an old office and seemed it was like the XL Aeron where because it was larger crossing legs was easy for someone my size.
@@JohnAdams-qc2ju well, you aren’t really stuck in one static position per say. The chair is more of a teacher than a straight jacket. There’s a general position “encouraged” by the chair but I still rock back and forth, fold one leg over the other, tuck one leg in, move my shoulders and arms…there’s plenty of movement and positions in the Aeron. It’s true that sitting criss-cross feels terrible but personally I have never wanted to sit that way in any chair.
Sitting in any chair for 8 hours is probably unhealthy and you should stand up periodically no matter what. And I would say standing is better for circulation than sitting criss-cross but I’m no doctor.
Just my personal opinion though, like you and BTOD I’m just speaking from my own experience. If someone is uncomfortable in the Aeron or if it’s just not for them then by all means explore the many other great chairs out there!
My butt hits the metal on the backside of My Aeron Classic B size chair. I only weigh 160 lbs. Is there a way to prevent this? Am i missing something?
While I love my Remastered Aeron, I felt this was a well-crafted critique. I'm 5'6", 148 lbs, and I've had no issues with the frame digging into either my knees or my shoulders, but I do think that it can be rigid, and can make you uncomfortable if you don't sit with good ergonomic form, which can be annoying when I'm in the mood to cross my legs.
Such rigidity made me pick up a HÅG Capisco just so I could experience a chair that has the complete opposite ergonomic philosophy. After using the Capisco for about two weeks I went back to the Aeron as my daily driver - it's just way more comfortable to sit in for longer sessions - but during periods when I want to be more creative, or I happen to be more fidgety that day,l I'll often switch out the Aeron for the more dynamic Capisco.
I'm also 5'6 and interested in getting one as well. Did you go with size B for the Aeron ?
Tried it & Wish it could recline back even more then I would definitely get it
I have been using it for 1 month, it has been my most expensive purchase so far (my backs deserves it lol), and it's phenomenal, it is very comfortable, I love everything about it, even the seat which is kinda de most negative thing you mention, if you pick the right size for you, it works well.
The most negative thing is that you can't move around in it. I don't know how people can sit in one posture constantly
I'm interested in getting a nice office chair and I was interested in trying this particular one. I was even able to try it at a nearby Herman Miller store. However, it's really tough to spend $1,500 on something that I may not end up liking. I mean, spending $1,500 is tough in general, but it's tougher when I don't know if I'll actually end up liking the product after some time. The rep I talked to at the store said that I can return it for any reason after 14 days, so that's at least something. I may still get this chair, but if there's another office chair that is also comfortable and much more affordable, I'd like to know.
what is this chair wchich u sitting on it? my wife is cosmetic and i am looking chair for her too
The Mirra 2 has all the features of the Aeron and some it should have. Mirra 2 back is flexible. If you decide to go with the extra lumbar support it is far more realized than that of the Aeron. The only reason why I would like to add an Aeron is to get a darn headrest. Atlas is supposed to come out with one for the Mirra 2 so hopefully it happens within the next year or so. I'm waiting on a Fern to come in to try out. That chair has me curious.
I did get the Mirra 2 before the Aeron, I loved everything about the chair, except that the seat pain was too small for me. I did like the adjustable lumbar on the Mirra 2, but the Aeron does a far better job with the Posturefit SL, since it covers my tailbone to my mid back nicely.
Believe me i have same chair in office and i to face this issue no headrest , no seat adjustment every single word is true, love from India
I recently bought a replacement office chair. Tried several in a day. It only took me a minute sitting in an Aeron to make me realize its not for me. I couldn't stand the sides of the seat pan curving up. Very uncomfortable for me. Many times I like to lean back and cross my legs and that's almost impossible on this chair. I also tried the Leap V2 and Amia and ended up going with the Amia. Best chair I've ever owned.
Did it take time to adjust to the thinner seat pad on the amia?
Nice chair pick! Most underrated chair IMO -GK
@@btodtv I’m in the trial period for the amia right now and the seat pad seems a little firm for long hours, did you adjust to that over time? I heard it can take a week or two to adjust
Interesting analysis, exactly what i found. I tried the aeron and tried its recline function and instantly felt like it wasn't special, the recline wasn't that comfortable and the hard plastic sides are death if you have big thighs. I then tried the Humanscale liberty and omg, the recline function was superb, the way it hugs your back is amazing (IMO), I bought both the Steelcase Amia and Humanscale Freedom eventually and love them both. Amia has a lumbar adjuster which doesnt always stay put and the freedom, well, for a chair that was developed in the late 90s, its image and comfort levels have held
up though im not too fond of its arms (will need to try 4d arms next time)
@@spectre3492 for me it took a few weeks to adjust from a crap office chair to a thinner and harder surface like amia, i am not thin yet sitting on it for a few hours did hurt my seat bones but only when sitting but went away eventually.
In a one year period, I bought an Aeron and a Leap. I returned the Aeron to Herman Miller and bought a refurbished Mirra 2 elsewhere. So now I have the Steelcase Leap, and the Mirra 2 by Herman Miller. I sit in the Leap. I like to look at the Mirra 2. The Mirra 2 is good, but more for decoration, occasional sitting, and for guests. The Leap is for daily sitting.
They're all for daily seating, but comfort is highly subjective.
I fell into the category of disliking the Aeron. I've been using a Gesture at work for 5 yrs and love it in the sense that I have zero aches or pains. It's just a chair that I can sit for 8-10hrs and not even think about it.
Working more from home I decided to splurge on a chair and wanted to try something new so I tested out the Aeron and Embody 'in-store' for about 30mins each...and liked the Aeron more. However after buying and using it for 5 days, I just couldn't take it. At 5'10'' 145lbs sz B, I guess the mesh padding didn't 'mesh' well with my sit bones or something. I could not find a comfortable position. So just booked another Gesture. It's so subjective that you really just have to try it out for a few days to see if it is the right fit.
Don't you get hot on a fabric chair?
@@nikita2560 At home and the office there is A/C for temp regulation so I never felt 'hot spots' or felt the Gesture made my body temp rise. Of course if I didn't have A/C during hotter months, I'm sure I would get hot on any chair since I do tend to get sweaty quickly. But it should be noted the perceived 'heat' is so varied that it would be hard to compare person to person. I really think that testing any chair out is the only way to go especially at these price points.
Which size is this
Hi guys, does anyone know if it is normal that the chair can come without the armrest switch (o make it go up and down)?
That is normal, some Aerons have the fixed arms option so no armrest switch to raise or lower the armpads.
I’ve had this chair for about a year now and I find it gives me neck and trapezius pain . Not sure if anyone else gets the same issue as me.
That's definitely not a good thing. I wouldn't keep sitting in it if that is really happening -GK
i have same issues with my aeron that i hate after one years, the seat is so tight for me and the frame push against my thigh is very unconfortable, i'm looking to get a chair with a wide soft seat and sell the aeron.
I always use an ergonomic foot rest when i sit (i sit for many hours a day and it needs to be comfortable as im an illustrator for my work).
Im 6'1, broad.
And the Size C is perfect. Perfect leg length and it feels like a comfortable throne.
I personally thought it was more comfortable than the embody overall, and the Mirra 2.
Every body is different. I find the default lumbar support much more effective and stronger on the Aeron than on the Leap V2 and Gesture. I have had all three for a long time and much prefer the Aeron Remastered. Thanks for the video ❤️ PS: You are also reviewing the Aeron with your feet hanging from the chair. Lol
yea i was also wondering about that..why is he testing an ergonomic chair with his feet hanging??? Thats not the proper way of seating in the first place. And the Aeron can go really low so there is no reason that his legs will hang, he just didnt adjust it. My wife who is pretty petite at 1.6 metres can sit with her legs touching on the floor on the Aeron Size B with no issues. Clearly...he is not sitting properly.
I used an Aeron remastered for about two years and it was always comfortable for a couple hours, but the lower back support was just too strict to use all day. If I dialed out the posture fit the mesh stayed firm on the sides and dug into my love handles. I was so eager to get out of the chair after 6 hours and it was hard to complete a work day. 5'9" and 180lbs in a size B, so the fit seemed right. Every body is different but my body couldn't do long Aeron sessions.
@@jamesmadison3108 because in the vid he is not testing, only highlighting its functions. He surely know how to sit properly in this chair and it still is not good for him. This video is not about how to sit properly but subjective opinion of reviewer after a certain period of time.
I've had my Aeron Remastered for about 8 weeks. I sit on it around 10+ hours per day. I'm 5'6 and 140lbs and have the size B. It is the perfect fit for me. I love the recline which I use occasionally, because to keep my back happy I need to sit with the backrest locked in straight and both legs on the floor. The arm rest adjustability is fantastic. I have the left much lower than the right because my desk is slightly higher than it should be so my right arm can be level with the desk as I use the mouse. I shift my weight and body to the left when I read stuff off a screen to my left and that's when the lower arm rest adjustment comes into play. The soft padding of the arm rests is also perfect since my arms or elbows do rest on them a lot. I agree that the inflexible seat frame is a bit of downer for those of us who like to sit with one or both legs on top at times. I can still do that, but it's not that comfortable because the hard plastic frame is , well, a bit too hard for comfort. The back support also works well for me. Sometimes I need it more firmly adjusted and at other times more loose. Easily achieved. On the whole, this chair will be with me for a very long time, so it was a good investment though at first a bit expensive. My health and productivity deserves the best support and this chair delivers. It also looks cool. 9/10. Would have been a 10/10 if it had softer seat frame :)
nice to hear I bought mine as well 2 weeks ago, I will be receiving it next week.
We got almost the same height, I'm 5'7 I wonder if the seat depth is perfect for you? I'm afraid of the seat being too large and hitting the back of my leg :(
@@Keiktu how’d it turn out? I’m a similar height and I don’t have issues with the seat on the back of my legs. Keep in mind the seat height and other adjustments can be tweaked if you’re having that issue
I personally love the Aeron but I can understand the love/hate relationship people have with it. Transitioning to WFH with the pandemic my lower back was hurting constantly due to my cheap chair. Standing more wasn't fixing it so I decided to invest in a higher end chair. I tried the steelcase leap, herman miller embody, ergochair 2, and the aeron in that order. Ultimately I went with the aeron as even after one day of sitting my back pain was gone! The leap was my second favorite but it just didn't sit upright enough. I'm shorter at 5.5 and 150 so the Aeron fit me just fine. I am able to sit cross legged in it and feel like i can move my legs around decently, but I agree other chairs will be more forgiving. That said I may pick up another chair here shortly as well, I think most people would do well with having multiple chairs to go between, because none are perfect.
Thanks for sharing you story. It's great that you found the perfect chair for you -GK
i am the same height and weight. What size of the Aeron did you buy? Did you get an older one, a newer one? Sorry for all the questions, I'm just getting desperate.
@@jpburbank I got the size B with the posturefit and fully adjustable arms. I got the newer remastered one.
@@buphmin Do happen to have any issue with the seat being too large and hitting your back leg? I will be receiving mine by the end of the month, I am 5.6, the chair is size B, probably my experience will be as good as your
As a 6 foot 2 man who had chronic back pain and spends upwards of 12 hours a day in a chair, writing, making 3D scenes, and playing games, this chair totally saved me. I had maybe a dozen other office chairs but my back was getting progressively worse. Earlier this week, I had to sit on another chair for just one evening while I exchanged the piston on my Aeron, and I was in so much pain that I was wincing. The next day, back in my Aeron and the pain was gone within hours. A head rest seems odd to me, and I removed the additional lumbar support. I swear by this chair.
Aeron better than embody and steelcase gesture ?
@@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Sorry, I've not tried those, and Herman Miller's customer service sucks.
@@matbroomfield Idk about their main store, but their dealers have great customer service.
What size did you get!!! I am 6,3 and having so much trouble deciding.
@@nikita2560 Size B. If you buy second hand, make sure the piston works as that can make a couple of inches of height difference. I notice everyone is doing computer game chairs, and many of them LOOK great, but I find it unlikely that any are in remotely the same league. I would ignore anything that has a faux leather covering.
When mentioning your daily driver in a video, it would be good if you named what it was at the time of publishing.
You are one of the most honest and transparent channels I've come across in youtube and, believe me, I consume a lot of content on this platform. You could just say how amazingly perfect the Aeron is and sell tons of them, but instead you provide us with all of this useful information so we can truly find the chair that truly suit us best. You even go as far as putting your own chair in the lower ranks of the tier list that you make (which only honors you even more). It was because of you that I bought the steelcase Leap V2 (I live in Europe so I couldn't get it from you, unfortunatly) and I've never looked back. Love my Leap and I'm so grateful you help me find it! Even thought I don't need to purchase any more chairs I still enjoy watching your great content! Keep it up and don't ever lose the honesty and passion with which you review chairs. You truly are making the world a better place (and our backs will be eternally grateful to you).
Thank you for the kind words. Glad we could help you! -GK
Why are you sitting on it with your heels off the floor?
It's interesting that you don't find the lumbar support pronounced. I am the same height (although less weight) and I can dial it in so hard that I will fell like its pushing me out of the chair.
I am thinking of downgrading back to sayl from Aeron because sittiing in Aeron feels like a workout either for legs/thighs or spine however I adjust it :(
I’ve ended up changing my Aeron to Embody
and now changing back lol xD
Honest question: Why do people use a chair’s recline?
Some people task that way, but most are watching content on their computer/TV or they are on a call -GK
I tell people that the Aeron is a great office chair because it kinda forces you to sit properly.
I would not use an Aeron at home for leisure because of the same reason. I want more flexibility to move around.
What chair do you use at home?
@@olpo2001 A used Haworth Zody I got for $100. Suits me great.
So the Leap 2 is your daily driver?
Yes, Ryan uses the Leap at the office and CXO at home -GK
i'm 6-4 220 so i can now forget about the Aeron. I need longer seatbase coverage which is hard to find then there's the backrest, needs to be longer with really strong lombar support.
embody
I've had mine for 3 years and it's been really hard wearing but it's really bad for relaxing in. My lower back has been getting really bad recentley and so I replaced it with an RH Logic 400, the difference is amazing my back has improved drastically in 2 weeks. Maybe I had the Aeron setup wrong but it's been such a relief replacing it.
I’ve been looking at the RH Logic series as well. I don’t like office chairs with mesh seats. Do you know if there is any way to get RH chairs in the United States? Thanks.
@@bluegrass571 I'm not sure sorry. I would say it's worth it if you do. They do feel a little underwhelming in terms of style. They kinda feel like any normal office chair, nothing fancy, good quality still. But it's basically solved my lower back issues. The straight back is really comfortable compared to a aeron, and generally you can sit in more positions. You won't regret it. The headrest is a must too.
@@metube2907 Thanks, mate. Glad you’re liking your new chair. Yeah, I’ve talked with back supply vendors in the UK and they recommended trying a courier service. I’ll find out about it at some point. Hopefully, the pandemic and more people working at home will raise the profile of office chair manufacturers and enable them to expand their distribution networks. Have a nice day.
Works for me. I love it.
I don't notice any change in opinions compared to the review 3 years ago
Hi bud, you just saved me a wad of cash, as I was going to buy this very model. I'm 5.11 and that seat wouldn't do at all. Cheers. 😉
Why is your desk 1600 dollars? I've never owned an electric desk and I want to know what to avoid
I love this chair. Buy it everyone!
Not being able to cross my legs was a complete deal breaker for me as I like to do stretches every now and then while seated.
I got a leap V2 instead and couldn't be happier.
I've had mine 11 months and I have fallen out of love and regret dropping the close-to-$2000. My issue is I keep sliding my butt forward and doing the back-killing slouch. Exactly what I thought the Aeron would prevent me from doing. maybe Im blaming the chair for my own behavior, but I'm not a happy owner.
Seconded.
You want the seat to be deeper? Erm, what? When you were sitting on it properly you had on finger of clearance. I myself (same height as you) thinking about changing it to a smaller one.
What about the mirra 2?
Coming soon! -GK
I want a Mirraeron
I've had my Aeron for nearly 10 years and I love it. It's easily the best office chair I've ever used.
What! really? for 10 years? and how does it look like and feel in terms of the shape of the chair and the condition after all that time?
@@Sabu-Hn It's still as good as new. The build quality is excellent.
25% off right now in Nov.
As of this comment, Feb 2 2023, the Aeron price is now $1,805 for fully loaded with Graphite. an average $150 increase in 11 months...FYI..if you're interested in buying one, don't delay as prices can still get higher
Update it’s now 2300
You get what you pay for. I’ve used a mesh Amazon 200.00 chair for ten years and my back has been killing me off and on over the years. Finally upgraded to the Fern. But in terms of value, unless you have a cat that urinates on it and destroys the mesh, Herman Millers will keep their resale value for many years. It’s a good investment in the long run.
ADDING THE HEADREST VOIDS THE WARRANTY
O pinion
I absolutely loved my Aeron... for half hour at a time. I would get butt pain (on the sides) after half hour and it would only increase until I basically had to get out of it. Doing a 2/3 hour sitting session was extremely painful. I endured it for close to 2 weeks to see if perhaps it was my body adjusting.. it wasnt. Returned it for an Embody. Embody was even worse.. but in a different spot, the sacrial, I couldnt even endure half hour on it, also returned it. Sadly my old chair is falling apart and I still need an alternative :/
Try yama7 chair !
@@ultimetleech gotta find a reseller or something in PT to try it out, thanks!
I'd try a Steelcase Leap. As for the Aeron, I suspect it was secretly designed for a woman's anatomy, and that for men they are hell on circulation.
@@salut9658 still havent changed my old chair, sadly
Ive had every chair from the herman miller aeron, to humanscale freedom chair, lifeform 2490,, steelcase leap v2, vertagear pl4500, global concorde, DX craper king(racer) and the most comfortable chair is........................................................ the nightingale CXO.
Bold statement! I like it though. I'm not a huge fan of thick seat pads, so I can't use that chair -GK
Is it only me that the elbows can't reach the armrests even though they are adjusted to the highest position?
I'm 176cm and using size B.
Probably your desk height is the issue.
@@StardustLegacyFighter Not sure about this, as it's like that without a desk
6' 190lbs guy here. I have the size C Aeron Remaster, and I cannot say enough about it. Very solid build, very comfortable. Great for long sit-down times behind a monitor. Stupid expensive, but when you figure the time spent for a keyboard warrior, it's not bad at all.
That's exactly why I went with size C instead of recommended B. And I'm only 5'5" and about 120 pounds. Lack of seat depth adjustment and low shoulders support. And yes I can't sit in one position all the time. Sometimes I seat in half lotus or full lotus position and you can't do that with size B.
I'm using a metal folding chair right now, I'm pretty sure its gonna be a great chair for me. Just ordered one today
Why would you need the chair to fold?
Bought a full featured one with all the options. $1900 dollars. I received it today. I also wanted to love it too but I hate it and am returning it. I bought a C size chair and since the seat will not slide forward or back you need to fit the chair. I don't fit the chair and the seat frame digs into my thighs. I love all of the adjustments and the recline motion is a dream. I wish they added an adjustment of the seat depth because then it would probably fix the issue of the frame digging into my thighs. Sitting in it was painful and I tried every possible sitting position but it was just awful. The hard outside edge make it impossible to get comfortable. It's like being tortured. I am going to try a Leap.
How tall are you? Probably its too big for you.
What’s your weight and height I want to compare to myself
If you go smaller it digs even more into your thighs. I have the same problem, size B digs into my thighs, size C digs into the back of my knee (because the seating area is too deep).@@Keiktu
Yes. Lack of seat depth adjustment is a HUGE miss. Like WTF. Even sub $400 chairs have seat depth adjustment. Makes no sense to me. Herman Miller will say this is why they have B and C seat size options. But come on. There are many people who otherwise fit fine in a B sized chair but must go with a size C seat that is oversized in all other areas.
When you feel like you need a head rest, it is time to take a walk.
Never buying a HM ever again after the CEOs comments on bonuses for employees while she made 4 million. Haworth Fern for life.
Hey, please start adding chapters to you videos, thanks!
I have the Aeron and Embody in my office. The Embody is the chair I use 90% of the time. It is just more comfortable for me.
Thanks for sharing. Nice chair setup you have :) -GK
got a 50 dollar chair with a 20 dollar pillow i attached to the chair, does the same thing and has great back support and comfort, 1600 for a chair damn
I believe he needs the bigger one
I’m in between sizes. The size C feels close but a bit too big. -Ryan
No headrest.
I just returned my Aeron chair. It had been 30 days. They are giving me a full refund, I didn't have the original packaging, and they had someone come and pick it up. As far as I know, they aren't charging me anything. I used an old Aeron at work for years and loved it. The new one I bought for my house must be a redesign because it wasn't the same. I have severe back problems and at the end of the day, my back was hurting so bad, I had to quit using it.
Same here, i had the old aeron at work and loved it, returning the new one, it is just not comfortable enough to justify the price
@@lareverie8285 I'm trying out a Steelcase Amia chair right now. The cushion is very hard but so far, my back is not hurting me.
What is odd about this product and this channel is most of the hosts rave about the HM Aeron and have it at or near the top of their lists but then a video like this gets posted saying “I cannot use this chair for 8hours a day” wait what??? All the other reviews from this channel have the HM Aeron as a top premium product that you cannot go wrong with. I’m just baffled and I’m not baffled easily.
In my humble opinion, It makes me think that the only reason the negative aspects are pointed out is because the host on this channel get to use so many products that small things that may not stick out to other users with limited exposure to high end chairs, stick out to them.
I don't think you've watched very many videos from our channel if you think that I rave about the Aeron as a chair you cannot go wrong with. That's just not the case at all. -RB
@@btodtv I watched over 2hours of BTOD videos, maybe more. The impression I’m left with is that the HM Aeron is a chair you cannot go wrong with for a long lasting daily use chair. I’m just confused as I thought it would be a chair on your A or B ranking system.
If that’s the impression you are left with then it sounds like the Aeron is perfect for your. Greg and I talk all the time about how we love the chair but find it uncomfortable. If the things we mention that we don’t like don’t effect you, then it is probably a good chair for you. -RB
@@btodtv gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.
The guy in this video has never liked this chair due to the rigid plastic frame. He’s always been very specific on his personal choices of the Fern and the Leap. I’ve watched tons of their videos before I bought two Ferns.
The Aeron is an iconic but ultimately frustrating chair. It is too rigid, particularly in the seat. There are many chairs that allow more freedom of movement in the legs while still providing very firm support in different positions.
I do like that the arms of the Aeron are cantilevered from the back. However, given that you can’t sit sideways in the chair even briefly given the side bolsters, the design of the arms isn’t that useful.
Lastly, didn’t they reduce the adjustability of the tilt limiter with the remastered Aeron? My impression is that it used to be infinitely adjustable, and now it only has 3 adjustments. That’s very disappointing.
Meanwhile, the only padded chair that I know of to incorporate its more sophisticated paddle “tilt-limiter” adjustments (which I agree are better than tilt-locking mechanisms) are found on the ludicrously expensive Taper Chair from Herman Miller (by way of Geiger).
As someone who is probably slightly outside the 5th to 95th percentile range that Herman Miller is aiming to accommodate, I’m quite dismayed by the offerings of some of the bigger design manufacturers in North America. I would advise anyone in a similar situation to look at companies that still offer padded seats (e.g. Nightingale, ergoCentric, Soma Ergonomics, Sitomatic, Neutral Posture, and, in Europe, constituents of the Flokk group such as RH and Hag). The arms and frame of a chair should not impede changes in position, as this is bad for circulation. This is my opinion as a layperson in the ergonomics field. If anyone has similar issues with the seemingly regressive mesh seats so in vogue today, please advise.
In general, much as it chagrins me to say this, there is more innovation in the ergonomic seating space occurring in Europe and Japan than in the US. It is a shame, and I hope that these foreign companies can make inroads in the North American market. In any case, this was a good review and I completely agree with your observations on the Aeron.
I do not like how he says opinion lol
facts
Oh pinion
@@sumkid9263 open-yin
That’s your opinion.
@Vegan4TheFreePrizes rofl indeed it is
Well overpriced chair FACT.
Joke price $1600 should be buy one get one free at that stupid high price.
O-pinion
Oh pinion
That price for the chair is RIP OFF.
"O" pinion
So, this guy at 180 cm should have gotten a C size instead? :D
Chairs in general are unreasonably priced.
why does blud say opinion like that
5'9" 180# is not average lol
Average height for men in the US is 5’9”. Average weight for men in the US is 200lbs. -RB
@@btodtv Literally describe an obese male. Your BMI is 26, you're gonna need a bigger chair there bud.
Order the right size instead of crying
ID10T best chair ever.