An overview of the Savotta Hatka 12L, and a few things I've done to customize it. There is more stuff over on Reddit, it's not just me throwing out ideas and information. / savotta
I work in forestry and this bag has been my go to daily driver for when I walk a ton while marking stands for future harvesting. It's so good with a 3l hydration bladder so you don't need to constantly unpack and pack it. Stuff it with colored marking tape for days and a first aid kit and some food and other work related measuring stuff. Will definitely try your shoulder strap swap, I did not expect to find so much use out of this little bag that I completely overlooked replacing the original straps but now the level of use outweighs the cost, time to make the great into something amazing.
I've been using a Jääkäri L as the rucksack that gets left in the tent and the Hatka as the backpack that comes along as a part of the combat kit. Its been a great combination, but in winter the Hatka is a tad too small, since you need to pack a fairly chonky thermal jacket inside, and that leaves awkwardly little room for all the other kit. Haven't found a larger alternative that'd be as convenient to clip on to the Jääkäri though, so the Hatka stays, despite the size.
For the front PALS I wouldn't personally bother putting anything bigger than a tourniquet or a mutlitool pouch. Kinda defeats the purpose of the Hatka to try to expand it with large pouches since it's kind of a large pouch itself meant to clip on larger backpacks. For hydration bladders I've had good success with Source. Got me through a year in the army and a couple of exercises afterwards and they have a nice adapter that lets you fill it through the tube from a tap or a regular 1,5l water bottle. I did replace my bladder recently when I noticed it was starting to wear down near the tube attachment point. Cool to hear my post mentioned haha. The Särmä TST flat straps are probably even slower to detach than finaggling the stock Keikka harness but they are indeed flat enough that I just fold them semi neatly and leave them attached between the Hatka and whatever bag I have it attached to. Very quick to deploy that way.
Excellent, another great vid. I finally managed to get an Askare ordered to the UK. Likewise kinda saving my pennies to see what the new range brings. An external lid pocket would be ace and personally I’d love to see slightly roomier side pockets. Whatever I’m sure they will be awesome!
4:00 rumor has it from Savotta, that the webbing endings like that are awaiting some future accessory. There are similar carry handle endings in Keikkalaukku side/end pocket, too.
Alright, definitely interesting. I won't do any editing to it and I'll wait and see what happens. I saw somewhere there may be pockets and attachments in our future too, at least in relation to medical if I remember correctly, which I may not
@@TimothyKeys Yep. With the Keikka, I thought the purpose was just for using the tabs as pull handles to get better access to the mesh pockets in the side pouch, but we'll see..
I currently have the Jääkari XL. Started with a civilian day pack and it's was getting heavy wear while off trail. 😅 The XL had been amazing all winter with all the bulky items, the only thing that's happened is some minor scuffs on the frame and end caps for it. Its a real "Carry All" I've carried chainsaws, tree climbing equipment, spurs and harness as well as snow shoes. It's been an awesome pack. Just need a bit more of an EDC bushcraft bag that's smaller and as bulletproof. Thinking the Jääkari M? Have you done a review on that bag? It would be awesome to see your style of indepth & upclose review of it.
Jääkäri M is on my list of videos to make, maybe this week if I can catch some more filming time. It's pretty hard to find a quiet moment around here at home
Another great review! Am I ordering the bags though - nope, cool and all but enough gear collecting for me. BUT the damn smiley patches !!!!! YUP! Totally ordered a few - especially the green ones - love 'em *adding this later - I'm in love with this company - grumpy stove and happy stove.... ohh I so don't need more gear but I can feel it comin;
When do think Savotta will release their new bags ?? I was going to get the JÄÄKÄRI M but then I saw the pictures of the new one and like you I don't want to buy anything until they announce anything and do you think the Hatka will fit on the new stuff as well ?? And what size literage do you think they will be ??
I'm not sure when they will come, but I'm ready. And I am also not sure of too many details of the backpacks unfortunately. I don't want to ask too many questions of them and ruin the surprise when they are trying to do something cool
@EnduranceRoom Thanks man, I'm glad you like it. I'm over there watching your stuff too. And if it's a couple months out, I might just get that Keikka next week
I am in the same boat as you. Really considering getting myself a Jääkari M. Did some digging and saw that photo on Reddit of a couple bags with what looks like updated lids? I hope it is an updated lid attachment/option. Or maybe a new line up of bags? It would be exciting to see a more substantial roll top on the M. Perhaps similar to the L? or maybe even a simple closure type like the S?
Don't get the 80L Keikka duffle bag. It's simply toooo big. As a result, I don't use it as often. If I could make the purchase again, it would be the 50L bag. Big error on my part. If by chance you want a 80L Kaikka bag, I will sell it at a reasonable price. Very good condition
We are trying to figure out some way to do a buy/sell on reddit, but we are at a total block at the moment. We don't want to become a market, we want to stay a bunch of nerds. If we figure something out I will let you know, or just keep track of it there. I might forget to update here, memory issues www.reddit.com/r/Savotta And yeah I think I will work my way up, 30L-50-80, with other gear in between. Could be months, could be years, our dishwasher just died so definitely not weeks
tldr, its a nice light weight back, not much you can do besides put stuff in it. Maybe get the jaakari S Sitpad/backpad, it fits in nicely and helps make it more comfortable.
I work in forestry and this bag has been my go to daily driver for when I walk a ton while marking stands for future harvesting. It's so good with a 3l hydration bladder so you don't need to constantly unpack and pack it. Stuff it with colored marking tape for days and a first aid kit and some food and other work related measuring stuff. Will definitely try your shoulder strap swap, I did not expect to find so much use out of this little bag that I completely overlooked replacing the original straps but now the level of use outweighs the cost, time to make the great into something amazing.
When it comes to adding additional pouches, I found it easy to slap two ATS Tactical Small GP Pouches on it. Works great!
I've been using a Jääkäri L as the rucksack that gets left in the tent and the Hatka as the backpack that comes along as a part of the combat kit. Its been a great combination, but in winter the Hatka is a tad too small, since you need to pack a fairly chonky thermal jacket inside, and that leaves awkwardly little room for all the other kit.
Haven't found a larger alternative that'd be as convenient to clip on to the Jääkäri though, so the Hatka stays, despite the size.
For the front PALS I wouldn't personally bother putting anything bigger than a tourniquet or a mutlitool pouch. Kinda defeats the purpose of the Hatka to try to expand it with large pouches since it's kind of a large pouch itself meant to clip on larger backpacks.
For hydration bladders I've had good success with Source. Got me through a year in the army and a couple of exercises afterwards and they have a nice adapter that lets you fill it through the tube from a tap or a regular 1,5l water bottle. I did replace my bladder recently when I noticed it was starting to wear down near the tube attachment point.
Cool to hear my post mentioned haha. The Särmä TST flat straps are probably even slower to detach than finaggling the stock Keikka harness but they are indeed flat enough that I just fold them semi neatly and leave them attached between the Hatka and whatever bag I have it attached to. Very quick to deploy that way.
Amazing video! looking forward for more in the future. :)
Excellent, another great vid. I finally managed to get an Askare ordered to the UK. Likewise kinda saving my pennies to see what the new range brings. An external lid pocket would be ace and personally I’d
love to see slightly roomier side pockets. Whatever I’m sure they will be awesome!
4:00 rumor has it from Savotta, that the webbing endings like that are awaiting some future accessory. There are similar carry handle endings in Keikkalaukku side/end pocket, too.
Alright, definitely interesting. I won't do any editing to it and I'll wait and see what happens. I saw somewhere there may be pockets and attachments in our future too, at least in relation to medical if I remember correctly, which I may not
@@TimothyKeys Yep. With the Keikka, I thought the purpose was just for using the tabs as pull handles to get better access to the mesh pockets in the side pouch, but we'll see..
I currently have the Jääkari XL.
Started with a civilian day pack and it's was getting heavy wear while off trail. 😅
The XL had been amazing all winter with all the bulky items, the only thing that's happened is some minor scuffs on the frame and end caps for it. Its a real "Carry All"
I've carried chainsaws, tree climbing equipment, spurs and harness as well as snow shoes. It's been an awesome pack. Just need a bit more of an EDC bushcraft bag that's smaller and as bulletproof.
Thinking the Jääkari M?
Have you done a review on that bag?
It would be awesome to see your style of indepth & upclose review of it.
Jääkäri M is on my list of videos to make, maybe this week if I can catch some more filming time. It's pretty hard to find a quiet moment around here at home
Another great review! Am I ordering the bags though - nope, cool and all but enough gear collecting for me. BUT the damn smiley patches !!!!! YUP! Totally ordered a few - especially the green ones - love 'em
*adding this later - I'm in love with this company - grumpy stove and happy stove.... ohh I so don't need more gear but I can feel it comin;
Aha! We got one more folks. Plan totally worked
well done! love the videos!.. great idea with the savotta sit pad in the back sleeve cant wait to try that out!
It really is a game changer, I don't go without it
When do think Savotta will release their new bags ?? I was going to get the JÄÄKÄRI M but then I saw the pictures of the new one and like you I don't want to buy anything until they announce anything and do you think the Hatka will fit on the new stuff as well ?? And what size literage do you think they will be ??
I'm not sure when they will come, but I'm ready. And I am also not sure of too many details of the backpacks unfortunately. I don't want to ask too many questions of them and ruin the surprise when they are trying to do something cool
@@TimothyKeys it's like Christmas 😂
@@TimothyKeysGreat video. I heard maybe a couple months. Looking forward to it as well.
@EnduranceRoom Thanks man, I'm glad you like it. I'm over there watching your stuff too. And if it's a couple months out, I might just get that Keikka next week
I am in the same boat as you. Really considering getting myself a Jääkari M.
Did some digging and saw that photo on Reddit of a couple bags with what looks like updated lids?
I hope it is an updated lid attachment/option. Or maybe a new line up of bags?
It would be exciting to see a more substantial roll top on the M. Perhaps similar to the L? or maybe even a simple closure type like the S?
Don't get the 80L Keikka duffle bag. It's simply toooo big. As a result, I don't use it as often. If I could make the purchase again, it would be the 50L bag. Big error on my part. If by chance you want a 80L Kaikka bag, I will sell it at a reasonable price. Very good condition
We are trying to figure out some way to do a buy/sell on reddit, but we are at a total block at the moment. We don't want to become a market, we want to stay a bunch of nerds. If we figure something out I will let you know, or just keep track of it there. I might forget to update here, memory issues
www.reddit.com/r/Savotta
And yeah I think I will work my way up, 30L-50-80, with other gear in between. Could be months, could be years, our dishwasher just died so definitely not weeks
When 202 reviev?
tldr, its a nice light weight back, not much you can do besides put stuff in it. Maybe get the jaakari S Sitpad/backpad, it fits in nicely and helps make it more comfortable.