I HATE Osprey! But This Pack Changed My Mind
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The thing with Osprey packs is even though they're a lot heavier than your average UL pack, they also tend to be way more comfortable. I've found that the frame and suspension and their anti-gravity system help mitigate that extra weight and allows you to carry a lot more stuff with a lot less discomfort, and the straps are really thick and padded and comfortable. If you're the kind of backpacker who likes to hike in luxury and bring a chair, a roomy two-person tent, real food with cookware like skillets etc, then these packs are the way to go. Even if you have a more minimalist setup, the suspension on these packs will make you feel whatever weight you do have less so than other packs would. For instance putting 20 pounds of stuff into an UL backpack and 20 pounds of stuff into an Osprey backpack and trying them both on will usually reveal the Osprey pack to be a lot more comfortable. I also tend to use all the extra bells and whistles. The provided rain cover has kept my stuff dry in heavy thunderstorms before, while the brain is where I store things I might need quickly such as my first aid kit, lighter, and my warm clothes in the wintertime. The hydration pocket for a camelbak is also pretty nice and the mesh on the frame allowing air to cool your sweaty back is a must-have imo. For reference I use the Atmos 65.
I totally agree with you. Im curious how your rain cover was fitted as when I used mine on Atmos65 the rain pooled in the bottom & the small hole didn’t drain. Any tips? Tx
@@DartmoorPaul I just pull it taut over the entire bag so only the straps are exposed and water doesn't get in
I agree with you. While my perfect pack would be the Atmos AG 65 with a couple fewer pockets/straps (and get rid of that divider between the sleeping bag compartment and the main pack!) I find the more comfortable suspension makes the weight worth it. Years ago I went the UL route with a MLD Trail Star, Katabatic Gear Helios 55, etc, but over time I have walked back up to a 15-18 pound baseweight. I tend to go on longer unsupported backpacking trip of 5-8 days. At 2 lbs of food per day that adds 10-16 lbs of additional weight plus water. I never found that a fully laden UL pack would carry well once consumables were factored in. Plus I have found there are creature comforts that I really like that create a bit of a positive feedback loop (heavier stuff requires heavier pack), for example I like a palatial tent - usually taking the 4.2 lb 3P Hilleberg Anjan.
Ultra light
Minimalist
Is always the right way
BUT
I AM WITH YOU in being the heavier safer pack
I like these packs
They are world renowned for a reason
JAH BLESS ...
🙏🏻👍🏻👏🏻🔥🚶🏻♂️
Did somebody order a yappuccino?
I never looked back after switching to the Exos 48. It carries the load like nothing else whilst remaining lightweight. I always called BS when they touted on about their '''suspension back system''' but lord almighty they weren't spewing nonsense! It's honestly one of, if not the comfiest pack I've ever worn!
Got one of those a while back and same. It’s my “final pack.” 😊
I love my Exos 48
Same
Agree 100%. It has a useful suspension that offers some hot weather venting, solid design and reasonable weight. Osprey took what it learned, built a not quite ultralight pack with good osprey features, well done. As said in the review, don't miss a million zippers and straps.
Exos gang.
Two trips with this pack for me and I’m happy enough I’m with it. Less back sweat than any pack I’ve ever used and comfortable enough when the load isn’t too heavy. I agree on the brain it’s generous size and can fit a lot. Combined with the side and back pocket and hip belt it’s good amount of storage for various things.
Nice! I bought this exact backpack mere two weeks ago, and I love it just the same. The construction is comfortable, yet stable, and I experienced none of the weight shifting I dealt with before, when using older and cheaper backpack.
The reason the Exos 55 seems bigger than the Arc Haul 60, is that Z packs includes the capacity of all the pockets in their number.
Most manufacturers list only “covered” compartments in their volume. Open pockets are unmeasured additional volume, since you can put bigger items that stick out in them.
Exos has 55L in the main compartment + brain. Stretch pocket and side pockets are unmeasured additional storage. Z Packs arc haul 60L is 47L body, 8L stretch pocket, 2.5 each side pocket.
You’re mostly right but the 55L osprey includes the 9L brain but not the other pockets. Seems like Z packs are at it imo
I got hooked on Osprey years ago with my Xenith. Cavernous for long trips, comfortable, easy access. Sold it to a kid hiking the AT. I just bought a Atmos 65. The waist belt is tighter than I like so I'm looking to swap it out; but I got it at such a good price, I had to buy it. Your pack looks good so thanks for sharing.
I'm an Exos 48 user and find it incredibly comfortable even with a heavier load. Kind of wish I had got the 58 (UK camping requires a wide choice of weather options) but living with it for now. Thanks for the honest review
I have the 58 and while it works well enough, I do find it overly big a lot of the time. I mostly go without the brain on it, but I know that if I use it, I can have it on it's more extended fixture point to fit quite a lot more. I carried it hiking through France several years ago (1200+ miles at a conservative estimate) and with a definitely not particularly UL kit and with 5-7 days of food it was quite a comfortable carry. Nowadays I'd be fine with a 48L pack even with multiple days of food. Definitely agree with you that you really do need to be prepared for a wide variety of weather conditions here. Getting a 'comfortable' setup when it's cold, windy and wet for days on end even in summer (never trusting the forecast...) does mean you have to dedicate a bit more weight and capacity to 'just in case, or i'll have hypothermia'.
i tried the 58 but found it like, bonk into my head when i tried packing it at home. So i returned it. Now i have ordered the longly awaited 48l and i hope it will feel more comfortable to me in that regard (no discomforts.) :D
I love my Osprey pack. It took me thousands of miles across Europe, probably hundreds by foot. It was a great investment and quite durable. I am an athletic, stout guy and don't mind that it's not an ultralight backpack. I wanted size and features and quality construction and it delivered. It's ten years old and just as good as the day I bought it. Osprey would be my first choice for my next pack should I ever need one.
I just really loved the way it took an enormously heavy load and spread it across my body in such a way that I didn't really notice the weight.
Yet spend many years with Osprey not trying any new packs - there may be even better ones out there
I've had a Gen.2 EXOS 58 for 6 years and love it. Most comfortable UL pack I have ever owned.
I have a Hyperlite that I love, but it leaves my back wet from sweat. I recently bought the Exos 58 for the fact that it stays off of my back during warmer backpacking trips. I had a hard time finding one that really felt like it “belongs” on me, and am still not quite happy with the fit, but my back feels so much happier. The pack fits everything I need and is completely comparable to the Hyperlite. And yes, I was nodding when you were talking about the compression strap, which is marvelous on the Hyperlite. The Exos has it’s own methods of compression, but nothing like the Hyperlite.
I have one of the previous models of this pack and can definitely recommend it. There are somethings that I like better with the new version (hip belt pockets), but there are some things I like on the older model (more user friendly buckles, easy to remove brain, that kind of thing)... just preference but I'd still recommend it. Only wish it was water resistant.
New to this whole backpacking. I wanted to thank you for the videos they really put into perspective what I might want/need. Although it may seem it may be a while before I can afford some this, but hey we all got to start somewhere.
Price doesn't have to be a factor. Plenty of good budget options out there to get you started. (tho yes it still is several hundred dollars to get into it) Then upgrade as you can. Years ago id buy gear like I did tools when I started working. Every week id buy one thing I wanted/needed. For bigger purchases, skip a week or two and put that weeks money towards the big purchase. (tent, pack or sleep system)
just buy used. Plenty of barely used backpacks available.
I have an Osprey Talon 11L daypack and I fell in love with it the first time I used it. My partner and I hiked a trail that has a portion that requires rappelling down some pretty steep inclines on ropes and then 6km on very sharp rocks to a secluded cove. A well balanced pack is necessary for sure footing as if you wreck an ankle you'd need to call the coast guard in before the tide traps you. (Bay of Fundy, highest tides in the world) and on the way back as soon as we climbed back up the ropes we were hit with a severe thunderstorm (wasn't in the forecast). Deafening thunderclaps and heavy rains and the inside of the pack stayed dry (with my Nikon DSLR in there too). had some dry clothes in my dry bag and wasn't expecting wet weather at all so learned a lesson for next time.
Also I realized it was missing a piece for the stow on the go trekking pole feature and just emailing Osprey lastnight I got a reply in less then an hour that they were preparing to ship me out the part soon (my first time using a warranty like this)
I would love to get a Stratos 36 or 44 as an overnight or weekender. I only dabble in UL so the pro versions are a bit too rich for my blood but I would certainly try Osprey again.
My only complaint is that the cool Osprey logo wore off so fast. They should really embroider them or something.
The Talon series is one of the most versatile day packs one can own. Perfect blend of comfort, features, function, weight, etc.
I just thru hiked the AT this year using the Exos Pro. I loved it. The water bottle being accessible from the size was a godsend. I also didnt use the brain and had room to spare. I never used the red compressuon strap tbh.
10/10 converted a few anti osprey folks to
I commented on one of your other videos but this should have been the one to comment on. I own this pack and love it. One signifcant modification, however, makes it much better if not perfect. My inspiration is the Gregory Focal 55. On that pack side compression straps may be routed hidden/inside the stretchy side pockets allowing compression at same time giving full use of stretchy side pockets even under f 7:28 ull compression. Problem with the Exos is the compression straps are permanently on outside of side pockets creating a real use problem when pack is fully compressed. What's more is the bottom side compression side is couple to/attached to the hip belt. My experience with this pack proves that this coupling s unnecessay and by decoupliing the compression strap from the hip belt results in more comfort and better function of the hip belt on my hips and then with a couple small 1/4" slits in ripstop fabric, a few hidden stitches plus super strong waterproof fabric glue, I have rerouted compression straps to under/hidden/inside stretchy side pockets. I also detached the upper compression and moved it. Now I have full use of stretchy side pockets and large front stretchy pocket even while the pack is under full ccompression. Water bottles and other items go in and out without a struggle whatsoever. Or even run longer items inside of side pockets yet still under comoression with full functional use of stretchy side pocket such as a water bottle beig put in or taken out without messin with the compression. The modification looks totally factory like it was designed that way. Side hipbelt pockets also are more functional being uncoupled from compression straps because when the belt is niw cinched down it does not stress pockets back in a weird way. This ended up being more comfortable as well. I wish there was a way to send pics. Anyway my mods added no weight and made the pack hugely more functional and just a little more comfortable.
I'd love to see that fix. The details and how it works in use. Do you think you can upload some pics somehwere?
Should be easy to make a low quality mobilephone video of 1 min and uploard it here on YT and send the link, no? Thanks :-)
nice review, SPECIAL thanks for putting metric values, I always struggled with that, when I heard ounces, pounds, inches etc. I have Arc haul and since Europe doesn't required bear canisters, I'm absolutely satisfied customer, not looking for a change
I don't have time these days to do extended trips, so for all my overnight or three-day hikes, I don't mind a few more pounds for comfort, and my Osprey packs always deliver on that point!
Very excited to see this, will definitely consider it, we have been afraid to give up traditional pack suspension...
Sounds gr8, ty
A great review as always!
I tried to move away from my Osprey and tried a Mariposa 60. On paper the Mariposa is an awesome pack however for me there one huge problem in that without airflow between my back and my pack I really struggle. I just could not get comfortable with the Mariposa. In my experience, when it comes to packs, lighter is not always better, the key is comfort and weight transfer to your hips.
I agree! Comfort and distribution of weight onto your hips makes you go further. It’s kind of like the tortoise and the hare. With the Osprey you might walk a little slower than the others but you’ll walk for longer than the others. It’s the little uncomfortable things that drain you out where as total comfort and support allows you to concentrate on maximum energy efficiency movements
im currently using the exos 58 and you are right on it with the air suspension. Sooooo nice and comfy. Its my go to pack. Probably wont even look at other packs for years to come.
I love my Kestrel 38.
It's very comfortable, fits me very well, and handles the small amount of gear I have wonderfully.
Same here, at 25lb and with 5 of those pounds being snowshoes strapped to the very front of the pack it still rides very nicely without pulling back on my shoulders. The fixed brain is the only reason I’m considering getting rid of it in favor of my Granite Gear Crown2 38.
I've been using the Osprey Atmos AG for a few years and its a very comfortable pack, but I'm constantly looking a ways to lighten it. Without the lid, its a little over 4lbs. I know I can do better, but haven't because its comfortable. I'll have to check out the Exos to see how it feels!
I recently purchased a kestrel 48 for an approaching Mount Adams summit attempt. So far so good comfortable pack.
Good video, you left out the mighty guarantee. I send my aether 65 in at the 10 years old mark for repairs. In addition to the repairs, they put a new belt and shoulder harness on the pack. Pretty much a new pack.
I bought an Osprey Exos Pro 55 and can say it is quite comfortable for me, while weighing half of what my older traditional packs weigh. No regrets. Lightweight daypacks tend to have poor back ventilation so I might just take the brain off for dayhikes. The Zpacks Arc Haul is probably the closest competitor and is lighter but also more expensive (I haven't tried that one).
I’ve been waiting for this UL craze to come full circle on backpacks. I figure it’s only a matter of time before people realize that ‘traditional’ packs were designed for backpacking and will offer the best experience. Stripping down frames and necessary load bearing features is backward engineering to when packs were just a bag with straps.
It’s ironic that backpacks started simple and eventually evolved to what marketing has now convinced people is a ‘traditional’ (outdated) design.
There are places for UL, such as summit packs, daypacks... for r\OneBag I agree you need to look into comfort.
I bought an Osprey on sale at REI years ago that's like the green one in this video, and I've always loved it. The straps and suspension are outstanding.
I have a Ren65 that runs just under 5lb. Packed I am hauling right a 40lbs. I use it as a day pack and come in at around 15lbs without my sleep system and food. Clearly, I am not a UL hiker! I'm a 5'2", over 50, overweight, female hiker. Finding anything that actually fits is a challenge. Osprey's adjustable everything works well in getting the pack fitted and comfortable.
An osprey atmos 65 was my first pack 5 years ago, and it’s the same one I use today. There is a lot of extra weight and unnecessary organization, but I love the pack. It’s incredibly comfortable and adjustable and there is no wear. I have no desire nor need to purchase a new backpack, so it saves me a lot. I don’t understand how you could actually hate the pack, even with every opinion you listed, but to each their own. I will gladly continue to enjoy my time outdoors because of my atmos.
I'm so mad at myself for not buying one 6 years ago. They used to have the green/orange pack everywhere. I went with an Aether, and the lactic acid build up I get in my upper glutes is so annoying I've been rocking it with just shoulder straps for half the time. I'm average build as well
as a 6'4, admittedly heavy then I should be backpacker, I am constantly struggling to find gear that 1. fits comfortably, and 2. doesn't add a bunch of weight. I'm glad to see these "in-between" bags. Large enough to carry my gear, light enough to offset the increased weight my larger tent/bag/pad add. And have a suspension system to carry it all comfortably.
When I was shopping for packs the green vest at REI asked me if I was looking for ultralight or comfort. I chose door 2 as my first pack was exterior frame and canvas. We looked at Gregory and Osprey. Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it, particularly for weekend warriors.😉
The Atmos AG50, before redesign this past year, is similarly laid out but has an amazing harness system that is worth the added weight IMHO. The newer one I think adds zippered pouches more like the AG65, but it's still relatively unencumbered wirh straps and so forth.
Yes, it’s really a great pack, and the suspension/hip belt transfer weight to your hips so completely that you can almost tighten the hip belt and leave the shoulder straps fully loose.
The brain doesn’t need 3 straps to attach to the back of the pack and clip-style buckles would be much nicer than ladder buckles, but it’s not like you’ll be removing/installing it multiple times per day. So that’s really a nitpick.
The top compression strap really should be on the outside a la roll top pack like mentioned in the video.
The hip belt pockets should be attached to the movable parts of the adjustable hip belt so fat guys like me don’t have them way out on our sides, and for the love of god, Osprey, PLEASE figure out to make hip belt pocket zippers that open/close smoothly one-handed!
But it really is a great pack, I only use it 1 or 2 times a year but when I do its amazing comfort puts a smile on my face every time.
Exos 58 with an added phone pocket on the shoulder strap is pretty solid. Though the Pro variant has a much lower listed weight and is very intriguing bc of that.
I've been an Osprey guy since I put on my first Atmos AG, and I currently own 5 of their packs including two with the Anti-Grav suspension. It's heavier, but SO comfortable.
I think the newest Airspeed design has me tempted to check out an Exos though
Top picks?
@@nelsonsanchez8434 @nelsonsanchez8434 I'm not sure I can give a top picks list, but here's what I'm using now:
Syncro 10 - short hikes
Hikelite 18 - day/group hikes (my guide bag)
Manta 28 AG - summer overnights or winter day trips
Atmos 50 AG - multi-night trips
Arcane Small - commuting
The only other bag I have is an REI Flash 18 which I use as a summit/day bag when I'm using the 28 or 50 liter packs overnight
The airspeed design is superior!
If you were going to be doing some hot and humid mountain climbing for 4 days. Atmos 50 or exos for reduced weight?
I’ve been using Osprey packs for 6 years now, I have 6 and love them for how comfortable they are and how they handle a load. But last year I bought 2 Granite Gear packs, a Crown2 60 and a Crown2 38, and have to say I like them at least as much. The GG 60l can’t carry as heavy a load comfortably as my 50l Osprey, but keeping it under 30lb it’s amazing. I’ve had the GG 38l up to around 22lb with no comfort issues. They have all the features I want and none I don’t, the fabric is very water resistant, and they even come in colors other than the same old black, blue, green, and red! My pottery clay/rust 60l looks awesome!
They came up with the pack brain around the Korean war. It was an additional bag that attached to the outer straps and could help keep a load down.
I've used a Zpacks pack but ended up swapping it for an Osprey Kestrel 38L because all those dyneema fiber packs (Zpacks) are very slippery against clothing. So the Zpacks tend to slide downward putting weight on my shoulders. It doesn't seem to matter how tight I get the waist straps. Despite Osprey being made of heavier material, it's shape conforms to the curvature of my spine and also has lots of rough surfaces that help it stay in place against my back. Because of their unique design features Osprey are my most comfortable packs (I have several, lol) which also allow me to carry heavier weights comfortably. I also have one of the older Osprey Exos packs but still find the Kestrel more comfortable and better at trabsferring weight to my legs. I couldn't carry more than 20lbs in my Zpack before it became uncomfortable. With my Osprey Kestrel 38L I can carry 35lbs comfortably for 16hrs a day no problem.
I went from a Kelty Coyote to a ULA Circuit. While I liked the extra pockets on the Coyote, for organization, I'm okay with the trade-off for the weight savings. And despite the Coyote having decent ventilation, suspension, and adjustability, the Circuit is just more comfortable to me. But the main thing I miss is the brain. I used it for storing maps, my electronics (in a ziplock), and pretty much anything that goes on my head (hat/beanie, bandana, buff, headlamp...). It was just nice knowing where those things were and having easy access to them. It'd be kinda cool if someone like ULA designed a light/waterproof brain that could be purchased separately and attached to their packs.
Solution… waist pack! Haven’t looked back.
Exclude your raincoat and beanie.
I do military style rucking so I am very often forced to take high weight stuff, so the idea of this high quality suspension system is intriguing to me
I know I've had great experiences with smaller, ultralight day-pack style packs and agree that their bigger packs often have great suspension but are a bit needlessly complex, which is why I haven't looked to them for larger volume daypacks, for instance. So it seems like this REALLY fits that hybrid design language and plays to both sides of their strengths. I can definitely see that weird compression strap situation being a minor but regular irritation, but seems worth trialing for personal experience.
Damn, I’m an admitted Osprey fanboy and have their packs in most sizes from the 5L waist belt up 🎒… and I just bought the Zpacks Arc Haul for my next through hike.
Not that I don’t like Zpacks gear (and I have a bunch of it), but UK import taxes add around 30% to already expensive gear.
I have a military back injury. Typically does not bother me backpacking (as the weight compresses my spine) but an uncomfortable pack would. I moved to an Osprey for this reason and don't mind a tad bit more weight. It's also why I hammock camp.
Good job with this. I've had five Osprey packs over the past eight years or so. The only two I have now are the Kestrel 38 for winter and the 48 for backpacking which handles cans well. Reason being is each of the others had suspended back panels which developed mind-numbing squeaks in the peripheral frame. And I don't overload. The Kestrels are definitely a weight suck, that I try to shave elsewhere, but it's worth it to not deal with squeaking. Maybe it was just luck of the draw, and wouldn't happen again, but I'm not sure I'll take the risk.
I usually pack ultralight... still rocking an OG Zpacks ArcBlast that is still holding up great. With packraft season upon us, I think this Osprey pack may fit the bill to carry that extra weight around. My wife and daughter are getting into backpacking this year and have been very happy with their Osprey packs thus far. The last time I carried a traditional/heavier pack (an REI 65L) I was descending down to Snowmass lake, just like you were @3:34! BTW, those coolers do look great, I may have to check them out.
I have just completed the Cape Wrath Trail using the new Exos Pro…. It was brilliant, super comfortable and carried all I needed.
I've got the atmos 65. It's been with me through some good times but it is certainly heavy. I'd love to try this out but I'm not sure I could justify the expense over what I currently own.
Another close-to-ultralight pack with a removable brain is the Granite Gear Crown 60. And it has zippers on both side pockets and a better top closure. I’ve reviewed it on my channel. It’s also very comfortable. But Osprey’s suspension is the best.
Several years ago I went from the heavy Osprey Atmos 65 to an ultralight Hilltops Pack's 45 liter Raven. I sacrificed the comfort of the framed system for the knee saving weight of the frameless pack. Now this is an interesting compromise - possibly. I think I could reduce my gear weight to compensate for the extra pound between this Osprey and my Hilltop's model. As I check gear for an upcoming very long thru-hike, this may be worth the try.
I would try it; although. my "Go To" pack's an exsturnal-frame 100L Alpine Freight Pack. Works well for me; regardless of activity I can pack all my gear in; I find it easy to use; easy to carry, and is very comfortable for me. I've had other packs, and two Alpine. I've had the other one you talked about in this video, and your right it won't fit a bear canister, but I do a lot of camping; fishing; hunting, and hiking in bear country here in Canada. Thank you for the video
I just recently picked up an Eja Pro 55 - the ladies version of this pack - to replace my Eja 48. I love the pack with the exception of the hip belt pocket (which you mentioned) and how much of a pain it is to remove the brain. Osprey saved a bunch of weight by removing zippers, pockets, and clips on this pack, but sacrificed a bit of convenience. Overall though I'm pretty pleased. One thing I wish Osprey would do is provide clip adapters with their packs so we can turn the brain into a fanny pack.
I have an older, larger and heavier Osprey pack and love it to pieces. It’s super comfortable, even when overloaded for travel rather than backpacking. That internal compression strap is just part of the standard design. I never use it.
I picked up the Osprey Exos 58 last year to use as my 3-season pack and it is by far the most comfortable pack I own. It weighs just under 2 lbs, much lighter than my older packs.
Just under 3 lbs
39 ounces on my 2018 version without the lid@@maxplaylist think they made it heavier on newer ones
Picked this backpack up a month or so ago. I’m a traditional backpacker that’s dabbling into ultralight and I really like this pack. Only complaint I have is I think the red strap seems to be on backwards.. other than that I would absolutely buy it again
I think Osprey makes great packs for what they are. Are they UL? Generally no. But if you like extra pockets for organization and/or carry heavier weights they make packs suited for you. Also, their warranty is among the best in the industry. I still have an Exos 58 that was my primary winter pack until I recetnly moved up to a Superior Wilderness Designs Long Haul.
I'm so shocked that the bear canister fitting was the plus! I tried one out at home and returned it. The bow in the back to allow a gap for ventilation worked great for that but got in the way of gear. I may have had a different one. It also wouldn't stand upright and the straps were soooooo convoluted.
I am really wanting to get this pack. I have been looking at the Exos for awhile as I am looking to lower some pack weight, and then when Osprey came out with this Pro model, I'm sold! Just need to keep saving a little more, so the Mrs. doesn't complain too much about "more gear"
Was thinking of getting an Osprey pack as my old Lowe Alpine hasn't been a good choice, for my body size and shape, but couldn't afford anything else till now. Good review as always.
My UL kit is 8lbs base. It's a cheap Columbia bag I got from Walmart. For heavier trips (100 mile+) I use an Osprey. Way more comfortable for heavy weight
The Arc Haul 60L is really a 40L, and all those attachment points makes them prone for potential failure. It is a very comfortable and functional pack though.
I would definitely try this pack. I love my Osprey "traditional" pack already so I'm interested in a lighter pack from them!
My favorite backpack - about 25 years old - has this type of mesh suspension, so I'm definitely interested in these Osprey offerings... though I'm inclined to look at the Exos 58 because it solves one of the problems you have with the 55 Pro *both side pockets zip closed (**and I can save $30).
I've stated before that I'm a truly traditional backpacker, with over 50 years of experience, and I don't like to spend a lot on gear, though lighter weight gear is becoming more appealing as I get older *and it becomes more mainstream (in design and price).
I am not willing to sacrifice comfort for weight, in most cases, which is why I've not made the step to an ultra-light backpack, yet.
I have the AURA AG 65. What i love in Osprey backpack is the suspension system and the top notch ventilation on the back. Even if they are already heavy empty, they are very comfortable.
But! I hate the belt pockets!
Hope they change that in the future. They are way too small to fit cell phones or even my small Sony RX camera!
If i don't need a pack for heavy loads or if i'm not hiking in winter with bulky stuff, i use my new favourite pack, the Durston Kakwa😍
I used the 40L and i just purchase the 55L
As someone who sufferschronic fatigue and pain the suspension and lightweight has me sold, i'd add a zip or velcro to that left pocket so that phone or gopro doesn't fall out if I fall forwards. Other than that it looks good, darker green or brown options would be nice Osprey. Love all your videos and work you put in, thanks for the Nikwax video did all my gear last two days 😊
Thanks for the review!
We have a hiking trip on the JMT in August and I am up in the air on this pack.
I know a lot of people lean towards the ultralight packs on this trail, but my full load will be around 15-18 pounds, so I am at a crossroads as to which route to go (ultralight or this pack).
Comfort is honestly the most important thing to me, and that might sway me towards this pack.
Just wanted to know your thoughts on this.
Thanks for the video!
I love my Osprey packs, and I'd buy more if I could. But I have a perfectly good Outdoor Vitals UL pack that works great for everything I need a pack to do, and I love all the pockets. I use one of the Osprey's for a daypack sometimes.
I have an older exos I got at a garage sale, my biggest issue is that it's a medium, and I really needed a large, so it doesn't carry as well as it should. Aside from that, I have noticed it doesn't perform well over 30lbs, which is a weight I struggle to get under with my loadout. From what I see of the new pro model, I think it might be perfect.
I’m definitely more traditional. UL packs don’t work well for me. That are simply too flimsy. Add the steep price tag to the lack of durability and it’s a no go.
I love my Osprey pack! 🌿
Consider trying Granite Gear, they’re also hybrid packs (2.5lb 60l) that are very comfortable after you adjust your packing for a suspensionless pack with frame sheet vs perimeter frame with suspension.
I also love my Osprey Kestrel, but I think he does have a point about the excessive zippers. There are zipper accesses that I have never used once on my pack.
@@muleb384 True enough. I have to say, all those zippers really appeal to my need for compartmentalization I’m order to keep track of all my gear. “A place for everything and everything in its place” is the only way I can find items and not lose/leave behind.🌿
I love my standard durable osprey pack. It works well for what I use it for. All the nooks and crannies get used on my pack. If you're using stuff sacks or similar for compartmentalization and organization what weight are you really saving over a pocket? It also keeps on working year after year. Ultralight packs quit after a season or two of my use. It seems like a helluva waste for the convenience of a lighter pack.
@@randomweirdo2701 I concur completely. Same goes for trail runners that wear out after 300-500 miles.
If doing a desert section of say, the PCT, a lighter weight, cooler hiking shoe can be a good thing but several parts of the first 700 miles, despite it being predominantly desert, have snow, ice, and multiple water crossings.
My very first pair of hiking boots were Vasque’s “Gretchen II” and they got over 5K miles on them before they needed to be resoled. I’m a boot girl. 🥾🌿🏔️
Recently purchased Exos 58 took it for 8 days, 7 night traverse of Isle Royale National Park, mid-August 2023.
It did over all very well.
However, a part of the frame broke, along the very bottom where it curves around the small of the back.
Only issue with the break was that it caused a constant creaking sound with each step.
I did overload it, max carry weight is listed as 35lbs. I had 41 without water. 47 pounds with water.
Good thing is I bought it from REI and can return it.
Will I buy another Exos 58? Quite possibly, but will explore other options comparing each to all that I did like about the Exos 58.
Osprey Aether ag 60L is what you're looking for my friend
I have the Atmos AG 50L. The AG system is pretty amazing at weight distribution.
I've never seen a hiker use an umbrella while crossing a stream before.
Can we get a video about the coolers? Seems hard to choose and you're always great when it comes to pros and cons.
Buying Atmos 65 was one of the best decisions I have ever made. I've also got the Manta 32 for day hikies and long city trips - an absolute joy.
I am struggling with shouldering the Atmos 65. The hip belts always collapsing behind my back and it's hard to get them back to the sides. Do you have that problem?
@@ulrichschluter9120 Nope. I took it to the Dolomites last year with roughly 20kg load, where I climbed (well, trekked mostly) a few 2500-2800m peaks. It was a breeze, I couldn't believe how easy it carries compared to everything I'd had before.
@@ulrichschluter9120 Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by "hip belts collapsing behind your back".
3-season pack: Exos Pro 58
That red strap inside the draw string is to create a "head hollow" anove the shoulder straps so the bag doesnt slap you in the back of the hood. It is more effecyinside the pack like that.
I have the Gregory Focal 58, which I think is "inspired" by the Exos? But the compression strap is over the main compartment, not under like on the Exos. Comes in at 2lbs 11oz. It has a brain. My top requirement on the new pack was back ventilation cuz I'm a sweaty boy ...and this pack checks that box and many, many others.
I'm a proud user of EXOS 58(not a PRO version)
good things
- first of all, it's designed for guys, the ladies version is called EJA, so it just fits great
- as a result, the suspension is just fabulous indeed
- adaptive back length
- compartments are really functional
suspicious things
- gets wet in no time and rain cover is not included
- recommended load 11 kilos, when the load is about 15 kilos the backpack starts bouncing on your back
- in some time it will start to make these squeaky sounds
Just did a 5 day portage trip with the atmos 50, carried 50 lbs of gear like a breeze. It may not be an ultralight through hiker bag but osprey bags carry heavy weight like no other.
I am more of a traditional backpacker working to go lighter. I've started carrying a bear can on most trips so this might be wat I need. Using an Osprey Aether 70 but don't use much of the space.
I agree with walking with an umbrella. It works great, obviously none-techincal trails.
I've been looking at the variety of packs, mystery ranch, kelty, teton, etc I've been watching informative vids like your thank you sir
I have recently bought the Exos 48 to shed weight from carrying the Atmos 65 which is about 2lbs heavier, but the Atmos blows the Exos out of the water in terms of comfort, its far superior with the thicker padded hip belt and thicker shoulder straps. The Exos straps feel sharp after a while and I am constantly "jostling" the pack to get a comfortable position. My opinion is a bit more weight in the pack is well worth the extra comfort. Besides which the Atmos can be modified to shave off a few ounces.
Oh hey! I went to Moosejaw in Boulder after hearing about them from you. They were great and we got a bunch of stuff from them.
I have the Ariel 55 and absolutely love the pack, but it’s too heavy! Biggest complaint after the weight is the side pockets that I use for water bottles, you can’t reach them! Other than that it’s a great pack! The Exos looks great!
I'm a brand new backpacker. bought a great sleep system, but cheaped out on the pack. livin that teton life. This one looks nice though.
Trditionnal pack might not be for yyou, but its is still good for 85% of hikers. People who are not into ultralight, will prefere these pack do to resistance, confort and how much you can load them with heavy stuff. the Osprey Aether is good but I still think that the best Osprey pack is the Atmos AG. Best confort and loading weight you can have on the market.
I bought the Osprey Atmos AG 65 (too heavy and too many pockets)and all my other gear is ultralight. I’ve been having buyers remorse, but luckily I still have plenty of time to do a return. I’m going to look into this Exos. Thanks for the review.
I think the Exos would be perfect then. That or I would recommend looking at an REI Flash 55 for another option that is light-weight without sacrificing comfort or features
Love my Kakwa 55...but I do get jelly when I see the air ventilation technology Osprey uses! Makes a huge difference on a hot day. It would be awesome to see Osprey do something creative sub 2 pounds.
When i first started backpacking I got an Osprey womens tempest 20. I still use it but now I wish I waited and got something lighter. I like it but i do find it to be heavy with nothing in it. Next pack i may try one of your suggestions.
My first pack was sort of similar to the Osprey Exos 55; it was an REI flash 45; a little smaller and a little heavier, but very much the same concept. It wasn't a bad pack
I like my current pack (a superior wilderness designs ultralight long haul) a lot better. It's 3/4 of a pound lighter, 10L bigger, made of higher quality materials, and fits me better being custom made. I do kind of miss having a brain on my pack for miscellaneous item storage, but I think some ziploc freezer bags will solve that problem.
I've been debating with the arc haul, exos, and the kakwa. My style has been more traditional since I come from military background and used to carry massive rucks it never bothered me carrying comfort. I've recently become somewhat more lightweight with a nemo hornet elite and xmid pro 1 as my favorite shelters. But I carry roughly 15-18 lbs without water. This makes me like the exos, but I hear great about the other 2 as well
I have the exos and the kakwa. I've only been on short trips with either, but my brain gets along much better with the kakwa, like how much better it is to access side water bottle, how much simpler it is, i personally do not like the brain, preferring the kakwa roll top. I will probably use the exos in hot summer days just for the ventillation. otherwise the kakwa will be my first choice.
I actually love my Osprey bag. I have an ultralight bag as well and I actually find my Osprey bag to be significantly more comfortable and I get more use out of it
I have the Exos 58 and tried the Exos Pro in this video. The Pro has a thinner frame and less rigid suspension. This all resulted in the weight being carried too much in the shoulders. I returned it.
If you haven’t tried the latest Exos 48/58, you don’t know what you’re missing! Yes, it weighs more than the Dyneema rucksacks, but it’s easier to carry and you’re less sore at the end of the hike.
I was about to buy this pack until I came across two complaints, acknowledged as design flaws by Osprey. One is that the mesh back is too soft, so collapses against the pack back. The other is that the new adjustment straps make the pack sway too much, even with moderate loads. The previous Exos 58, without hip pockets, is not much heavier than the Pro and has worked well for me. So maybe wait till next year.
I did 55lbs in my exos58 in the Sierra this year. Fit great
I've got an Osprey Atmos AG 50, and especially the suspension/frame i'm very happy about
I bought the Osprey Exos 55 Pro a few months ago and love it. I agree with your points except for having an open hip pocket. I do actually like having one zipper and one open.
One additional complaint: i wish the hip belt pockets weren’t so far back.
This pack is extremely comfortable and fits my gear extremely well (even better than the hyperlite).
I compared the hyperlite and really wanted to keep hyperlite but three things that i couldnt get over:
1- for some reason hyperlite straps hurt my shoulder even after trying different size packs, adjusting straps, and adjusting the frames.
2- water bottle access. While i can access my smart water from hyperlite pockets, its much easier with the exos 55 pro.
3- hyperlite=sweaty back.
My main concern with the exos pro 55 is durability. Time will tell but im skeptical on the material durability and how small the hip belt clip is.
I would have gone for zpacks for a backpack but they are just too expensive as i never see them on sale like i do with the two other packs mentioned above.
Regarding durability- - Osprey does have the lifetime guarantee which is a feature not mentioned. Neither Z-pack nor Hyperlite have such a guarantee.
@@lt2246 that is a very good point and is one reason that i failed to mention on why I bought it despite wondering about its durability.
Update on durability: just took it on another backpacking trip where i had to bushwhack my way to the top of a mountain. I am happy to report that while my rolled up OV foam sleeping pad got torn up by all the branches and such, my backpack sustained no tears or punctures.
Nice review man! My first day hiking pack was a osprey stratos 24. I loved that pack!! The trampelene back is second to none! Until i tried severe ultralight gear then i realized how much i missed their trampelene mesh back panel. Although alot of other osprey packs dont compare to the stratos trampelene back. They seem to have shrunk the seperation overtime on the back mesh? I do like this new exos 55. The brain of these packs are a handy feature. I say that too cause i noticed alot of people who use ultralight roll top packs still find themselves without enough room. So before you know it gear is filled every exterior pocket and some even have gear dangling off the pack somewhere. Seems thats where alot of ultralight packs fail. I want the pack im using to hold all my gear without gear hanging off the pack too much. Only thing i would like to see osprey do is use premium pack materials like Robic nylon, dyneema, X-pack, ultra pack. Maybe even design their own roll top pack but keep this new trampelene style back and frame suspension. Not sure if that crosses over Z-packs patents or not but would be very nice to see. Or i would like to see an update Levity pack made with better materials and offered in more subdued color ways. White is just tough to keep clean. Good stuff man! Hike on!!
That would be the ultimate pack for me ; Osprey suspension, roll top and made it dyneema👌
My atmos 65 is heavier than other packs, but so comfy it feels lighter. IMO, and for my british hiking, it's great.
I find a pack brain to be so useful that I have added a Zpacks multi-pack to those that don't have a brain. Nice to see some progress in the hybrid-pack market, but I think they can still get a little lighter.
I have two Osprey packs - Mutant 38 for my alpine missions and Aether 65 for multiple days hike. Best backpacks I have ever had. And this particular one looks awesome)
I have the women's Ariel pro 65L and I absolutely love it for comfort and strength.
I also like the sleek outer profile with exactly the right features.
Thanks for the review! Though,
I’d put my Gregory Optic 48 on before I’d strap on my dusty Exos. IMHO Gregory has better comfort in the shoulders and waist, zipper hip belt pockets, and a stretchier (is that even a word?) back mesh pocket. I was sad when they discontinued the model and changed it to the “Focal”. Which for some reason is not as good as either the Exos or Optic.