Rio Ferdinand, Peter Crouch & Joe Cole Reflect On Their World Cups
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In this episode of High Performance we sit down with Rio Ferdinand, Peter Crouch & Joe Cole to preview the football World Cup.
We reflect on the former player's experiences playing for England and how the current squad can overcomes these challenges.
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“There were no tactics” “Capello told Theo to stay out wide and he ran inside straight away” sounds like there were some tactics then and people didn’t bother to listen 😂😂
Lolol
I feel like this conversation has been had about 1567 times with this crop of players.
And still we listen 😂
This convo comes out at least once a season , and Jake asking the same questions. England's golden generation got to 3 quarter- finals so I wouldn't even say they under achieved ,,that was their leve, quarter -finals. They wasn't good enough as a team to win a tournament. They were miles off it in terms of winning something .
@@TORRES999ifywas the so called golden generation really that golden? Reeks of arrogance in my opinion. Other nations, France Brazil Germany just to name a few were miles ahead. I’d even go as far to say this current crop are much better as a collective. Point being this group are massively overhyped. Amazing names on paper, sadly the game isn’t played on paper.
Exactly my thoughts 😅 bit of a tired conversation
@@TORRES999ify The reason why it keeps coming back is that the players were individually good enough but there was no collective ethos and many of the players viscerally hated each other 😊 The main manager, Sven was absolutely appalling and not a football coach or even a leader. After him, they also appointed an Italian who couldn't even speak English! That group of players could easily have made two Semi-finals and a Final over a decade but there was no playing structure and there were literally no tactics. The Premier League clubs were far too powerful & had more sway over the players than the England manager. It was absolutely infuriating and was the product of the FA's lack of investment in coaching over three decades. 😡
10 English players started the 2008 Champions League Final, the same year England didn't even qualify for the Euros. Let that sink in for a moment
How many were ex West Ham
@@jamesgreen8573 4, Ferdinand, Carrick, Joe Cole and Lampard
@@elbobinho Tevez
@@elbobinhoTevez? Argentine player
@@jamesgreen8573 was only referring to english players
Joe Cole started reminiscing about JT then remembered he was sat next to Rio 🤣
Lol, I spotted that as well!
What happened? Is there any bad blood ?
@@gabrielaleactus9932 JT (probably) racially-abused Rio’s brother.
@@TPRM1 I wouldn’t say abused he just said a couple of words that was it
The shame is the golden generation players get asked this all the time. I’d love to see the managers and FA get asked these questions more. Cos the failings were never down to the talent.
The image of Sven getting Becks to sign shirts is the perfect encapsulation of the "Golden Generation".
Never heard an England player take any responsibility for how they performed for England
Only Ashley Cole performed at the same level for club and country
Thank you only Ashley Cole on his worst was 7/10!
Terry and Ferdinand performed too. Midfield and attack was the issue of these English teams. They were good defensively
Amazing that you can type out a comment like this and still think the problem lies with the players.
Facts.
He's the most consistent player, maybe ever
Ashley Cole is the best defensive Left Back I've seen play football and I think almost everything related to English football and clubs is overrated
First video I've watched Jake, 100% subbed 👍
thank you!
“We never got told what to do or nuffin”
….
“Walcott got ghosted because he was told where to go and he didn’t “
🤣good point haha. But in fairness to them, telling a winger he isn't allowed to come inside isn't really a detailed tactical instruction.
@@andyw9255Pep did it with Henry at Barca and won the treble lol
Only thing is you wouldn't understand what we're talking about regards World Cups
Sounds like they can’t take bollocking !
I was about to say - just have Crouchy standing there. Thats good enough for boosting morale.
It's interesting to hear their views and it's revealing to some extent. The truth though is they were amazing at some things, but they were not technical players and couldn't keep it under pressure. These attributes were needed as the game fundamentally changed in their era.They were left behind.
We have since changed how football is coached in this country and we are seeing the benefits - Grealish, Foden, Bellingham, Saka. These players are a product of new grass roots coaching and England has got closer to the cutting edge of the evolving game. Exciting.
Great interview & very inspirational 👏👏👏
Imagine getting to world cup quarter finals and euro semi finals with no tactics 😅. Just shows how good these players were.
They didn't get to European Championships Semi Finals
They were lucky to even Pass the group Stage. England national team was and is always a mediocre team
@@ErichSermonnow mediocre?
Please shut up you melt
@@ErichSermonit was amazing team but as they said mangers clueless to what to do
@@andrewwright4195 but the players are playing on the field. And I believe that they all delivered their maximum on the pitch all the time. Which just shows that at the end England is a mediocre team and will always play like second division when it comes to national football
There was no tactics. Then the next sentence is the wingers were told to stay wide and not come inside. The first 30 seconds of the session walcott comes inside. Take some responsibility. It was like they were surprised Capello was annoyed that a player didnt listen to him.
I mean Walcott was a teenager at the time, it’s not like he was an experienced leader. At least have some decent man manager skills.
4:44 when Cole mentions JT then realizes he's sitting next too Rio
Crouch seems so nice haha.. no one liked capello apparently lol
Capello had Maldini and baresi. Good luck with Terry the clown
@@andrewmcgill9544 Not a huge fan of Terry the person, but he was an elite player. Made 5 FIFPro World XIs in his career, and won everything at club level.
Ok I subbed
The more I hear of Rio, the more I imagine that despite all his talent he was incredibly toxic in a team. He did well under the unquestionable Ferguson, he was lucky to have that
He loves himself too much, whenever he is doing punditry he always has to talk about himself. When the likes of Keane, and scholes talk about themselves it's always self-deprecating and humble. I've heard rio say quite a few times he thinks he was the best CB in the world, it's ridiculous.
He went into a newly promoted QPR team that needed leadership at the back and had probably the worst season of his career.
He also badly undermined Moyes from the start ,him and rvp shudda left with fergie
@@dod6031 I mean he was done by then, so it's not a disgrace. Plus they were pretty dysfunctional. There is a narrative from the English media though that he was the best CB in the world, he arguably wasn't even the best CB in his team.
He’s also a deeply immoral man outside of football.
Interesting to know that England go into the WC with no tactics, its leave down individual strength within the game.
I hate these conversations of the golden generation. It’s almost as if: France, Italy, Brazil, Spain and Germany just had bang average teams in comparison. Brazil alone at one point had: Ronaldinho, ronaldo, kaka, Adriano, Cafu, roberto Carlos etc no one in the golden generation even touches these players levels. Then there’s the Spanish era from 08-12 pretty sure they never lost an international game in that whole period 2x euros and 1x World Cup, madness! Englands ‘golden’ generation just was never good enough regardless of managers. End of.
We played well in 2002, I think if Brazil hadn’t had the players you mentioned we’d have won that. They were just a level above, almost perfect in every position. Still took a freak goal for them to beat us aswell
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This is all contradictory...Rio said there was no easy game...what about the games v Jamaica or San Marino? Joe cole said there was no pattern of play and players weren't told where to go...Rio 2 mins later says capello specifically told players to stay out wide. This is just mediocre players blaming the manager for their own faults
Wingers not being allowed to come inside isn't a pattern of play though. I agree there's a bit of arse covering here with what they're saying, but these weren't mediocre players... all 3 played in a Champions League final in their careers. Rio and Joe Cole have multiple league titles and made PFA team of the year. Unfair to call them mediocre.
I seem to remember the players bottling it when Terry was at a press conference he said something like and all the lads think the same don't you? And no one said anything.
9:52 😂😂😂
The team was crying out for players like Carrick, Xavi alonso, scholes...... It had no-one controlling the tempo.... Lampard & gerrard were basically number 10s for their clubs.... They weren't natural at controlling matches from deep.
It was a mistake to have 11 years of management by two diehard 4-4-2 men, around the time English football was dominated by 3 or 5 man midfields. That's why our midfield never looked any good. We had the quality, but nobody was playing the role they were used to at club level. Gerrard and Lampard were two of the best midfielders in the world at the time, but they'd never have been used together as a midfield 2 by a Champions League club of that era.
@@andyw9255 Lampard was never a good sitting midfielder... Gerrard barely played it until he was 33/34.... The Managers were so scared to drop Gerrard, Lampard or Beckham... They knew it would create a circus...
@@mnb9162 Yep, that was my point really. Stick a Carrick / Scholes / Hargreaves type behind Gerrard and Lampard in a 3, drop Beckham for a natural wide forward like Cole / Lennon / whoever, and it would probably have all worked fine with Rooney leading the line. But you're right, dropping Beckham was heresy for a long time.
Even though I'm an Irish republican , to my dying die I'll curse England managers for never playing a carrick/scholes duo.
They knew each other's games inside out , twice went toe to toe with the greatest mid 3 of all time,Barca, and when things went wrong, would have Fergies voice in their heads on the pitch.
Dreadful waste.
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 Agree, although Scholes retired from int'l football in 2004, and Carrick didn't join Utd until 2006. Of course part of the reason for Scholes retiring so young and refusing to rejoin the England setup was the way he was misused by Sven (and he probably knew Capello wouldn't use him properly either).
Due all respect, Despite having the highest quality with their club tournaments, despite having a decent football culture and youth academies, despite having decent work ethic in sports, These English men need to come to terms with the fact that (upto this point) they just weren't good enough to win a world cup. As simple as that.
It would help if we prioritised the development of our own at the aforementioned academies. Once upon a time English youth players used to have to be among the best in the British Isles. Now they have to be among the best in Europe, perhaps even the world.
Plus it would have been better if that nice Mister Erikssen could have kept his dick in his pants long enough to focus on the 2006 World Cup.
He took 17yo Theo Walcott (never having played a single minute of Premiership football) as a back-up for Michael Owen, who ended up doing his ACL.
Jermaine Defoe was on fire during 2005/06.
Such a waste of talent.
Erikssen never even played Walcott.
But at least Sven waltzed off into the sunset still being paid out of his multimillion pound contract by the FA.
Or a Euro
100 percent
Who starts a sentance with "due all respect"?
@@Danimal28 someone who doesn't speak english...really
Crouchy at the end 🤣🤣🤣
1:36 The fact that he implies that because England "didn't lift a trophy" indicates that something "wasn't right" says everything about England's sporting mentality. Reaching a tournament semi final should be seen as is an achievement
No not for us mate.
If England get a bronze medal at hockey or swimming or skiing or high jump then I'm delighted.
But football, rugby, cricket, boxing. It's gotta be gold.
We have put too much time and effort into these things to be happy watching Italy, German, France or Spain parading a world cup trophy through there streets.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to win something if you have put the and effort into it.
I think everyone knew that group of players was good enough to win a tournament, if they’d been used correctly (see: Scholes on the left wing).
@@NeilLewis77 You’re right mate, nothing wrong with aiming high.
But remember, we’re the only country who has won (or is ever likely to win) a WC in football, rugby union and cricket.
We did invent them all, but still, we’ve done pretty well!
Loser speak
@@TPRM1yep put him dm and gerrard and Lampard going forward
Love crouchy
Crouch was smooth tho and he could score BANGERS!
When watching the golden generation England team, everything looked like such hard work. World Class players always looked as if they were struggling even against easy teams like Rio said but with this current England team, they have easy games all the time and they're definitely not as good as the England teams between about 2003-2010. It's togetherness and tactics.
The golden generation were overrated they couldn't keep the ball to save their lives. Long ball, get stuck in merchants.
@@ronniep9272they had clueless mangers should have put paul Scholes in dm and gerrard and Lampard cam or 433 put Rooney striker instead of left wing all the time
@@andrewwright4195 always blame the manager especially Johnny Foreigner Sven who actually helped these overrated players reach two World Cup quarter finals and a Euro quarter final. England didn't have anyone with the technical ability of Ronaldo9, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Henry, Pirlo, Totti in those days. They were a top 10 team at best and that's where Sven took them. Scholes had plenty of opportunities in central midfield at World Cup 98, 02 and Euro 2000, he didn't do much in these tournaments.
I don't dispute Capello did badly with England, and that his methods did not translate. But to suggest a Champions League winning manager with more League Titles to his name than Jose Mourinho simply did not have any tactics at all is obviously nonsense.
The issue with Capello was he was a guy who had a very specific philosophy which he could impose (with great success) at a club, because players who didn't fit could be moved on, and new ones could come in who did fit.
At international level, if several of your star players don't fit your philosophy, you're screwed... there's no transfer window to help you out. And then if you have no rapport with them either because of the language barrier, it just makes things worse.
FWIW, Capello's win record with England was pretty decent... I think he was a bit unlucky, and then because none of the players liked him, it was easy to throw him under the bus for something that was more complicated.
@@andyw9255no true cappello constantly had arguments with Gullit van basten and Savicevic its just the way he coaches …. Beside he couldn’t speak a single word of English
Cappello was a donkey in that competition
Whoever was in charge of appointing these England managers needs sacking, such poor choices for years.
To be fair to Capello, I doubt Alex Ferguson would take kindly to a few players coming in trying to give him advice
Ferguson had 20 years to build that reputation, Capello barely spoke English despite his achievements elsewhere
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights That is completely irrelevant, it is blame shifting, the manager is the boss end of.
Exactly, instead of Theo doing as he was told, he wants to do what he wants, which organisation works well like that.
difference is ferguson had the respect of the players, fergusons tactics works. he has probably more silverware then any manager in football history. You dont second guess him. Where as capello had nowhere near the amount of success.
@@ashleygoggs5679 You realise at one point Ferguson was unknown coach and his players had to trust him. If Walcott refused to follow instructions how can you blame Capello?
Mad they’ve filmed this in purgatory
Peter crouch was happy! Joe Cole and Ferdinand on their day they were world class!
Well now your hearing it 1568 times 😅
Ashley Cole. He was World class.
As I always suspected
‘We had no tactics’ - English football in a nutshell
And yet they played almost their whole England career under foreign managers who were serial winners at club level.
Were playing ok under potter just needed a goalscorer, one game created 20+ goalscoring chances, shoulda stuck with potter he was sorting it
Crouchys goal to game ratio for England. No one better
Richardson
Wrong, Lineker, Greeves and Kane all have better ratios.
Cappello means 'hat' in Italian. And they still hired him.
2:38 Rio says "we relied on individuals"
Basically that's every national team, right? None of them play together very often.
I love the world cup but it's certainly not the champions league in terms of team play
Yeah but I just remember watching England at that time and they played like they were strangers and so disjointed and then you’d watch average teams like USA and Ghana playing far more fluid and attacking as a team with far lesser players
@@guitarreilly wait you are saying the USA played more fluid? What year? Yank here, going to relive whatever you were jealous of 😂
@@dannydevito5729 mate we played you in the first match of South Africa 2010. It ended 1-1 but USA we’re far more dangerous and we’re the better team. You’re best player was altidore who couldn’t even get into the Sunderland starting 11 but made carragher look like a right cart horse. We had players like Rooney, gerrard Ashley Cole etc all world class and yet looked completely out of their depth against USA
@@guitarreilly oh I remember the game well. Clint Dempsey got really lucky from ~20 yards out and I'm not sure we even had another shot on target. But I suppose we are all a bit too harsh on our own teams
@@dannydevito5729 yeah true our goal keeper made a terrible mistake
I wish they didn't cut out the juiciest bits
Spain won the World Cup and the euros and at that time Barcelona and Real absolutely despised each other like ramos, xabi alonso, pique and casillas
Tbf to Capello if you say a hundred times “stay wide” and the first thing Walcott does is come inside I think any manager would go absolutely mad at him for being so stupid
I just think England fans have a higher expectation for their teams and players than they should. There is a level of overhype. The truth is majority of the best players in the world are not English decade after decade. I think it’s because the premier league is the best league in the world but that’s because of its infrastructure, the high level of competition every week. They won in 1966 against a German team 21 years after world 2, there was so much behind that game pushing England to win, the whole World was cheering them on. It’s a different story now, other countries dislike England because they perceive them as arrogant.
It's a mix of things. The England squads that Eriksson and Capello had were good enough to realistically aim to win a tournament, even if they weren't the standout favourites. Issue is it's a knockout tournament, you only get a chance every 2 years, it's at the end of a long league season. You need a bit of luck in key moments, and you need to hit momentum at exactly the right time. You only have to look at Brazil in the last World Cup to see how easy it is for things to go wrong.
I'd say in Euro 1996, WC 2002 and Euro 2004 England were arguably in the top 2 sides in each tournament, getting knocked out by the eventual winners in 96 and 02, and having incredible bad luck with the Rooney injury in 04. So it's not crazy for England to expect to be competing for trophies, but maybe people just underestimate how hard it is to win a tournament, even when you have a competitive squad.
I grew up in Italy, we would always make fun of England for playing like chickens with their heads cut off. They had lots of energy and ran a lot too but they were so poor off the ball teams that were lesser could easily maneuver around them with semi simple tactics.
It’s interesting though because the last few times that I can think of off the top of my head, Italy (mainly Pirlo) wiped the floor with England at Euro 2012, Italy beats England at WC 2014, Italy edges England at Euro 2020. But this year for example Fiorentina and Inter lost their finals to English teams.
Truth is the Premiere League had so much money in it they can buy any player and offer crazy wages that clubs in Serie A, Bundesliga and La Liga cannot. It’s an exciting league to say the least but the tactics are pretty boring, minus City, Brentford and a few others with creative coaches. Serie A has been wide open recently with league winners. Bundesliga, La Liga and Ligue 1 are super boring cuz the same teams win.
@@SimoNemo7 Yeah agree. The English kick and rush style was forged in cold weather, and our players (Gerrard, Owen, Beckham, etc) were naturally suited it, but in a summer international tournament with fixtures coming thick and fast, the players often looked burnt out. You need to be able to control possession if you're playing in South America or southern Europe.
That's changed now, with the Premier League having a lot more teams who play a possession style, and the average English player being much more comfortable on the ball and dealing with sophisticated tactical setups.
As for the league itself. Below Man City, the Premier League is still incredibly competitive. We're not quite in the Bundesliga / La Liga / Ligue 1 situation yet, but I agree it's a problem. Although not particularly relevant to our national team.
@@andyw9255 yeah I agree with everything you said with exception of needing possession, it’s preferred but in the Bundesliga for example a lot of teams have found success sitting back and hitting the opposition on the counter. Looo was famous for it at BVB
@@andyw9255you think a team starting heskey, Upton, lampard and Gerrard in a midfield 2 were good enough to win the world cup? Did you see the game against germany? They got absolutely embarrassed.
Love u Jake. Idol.
The irony that the golden generations peak was 2008. A tournament they actually could have won yet never even qualified for
Who is JT???
Basically, we’ve never had a a top class manager (in my lifetime) and during the golden period we had awful managers. Gareth likeable but would be dreadful in the premier league, even now with more experience.
I wish we could have this without Jake bloody Humphrey
Did Crouch smoke a cigar before this?
“No fear”, “No regrets”. What’s the one word in both of those? “No”. Do you think the Brazilian’s philosophy is negative?
There is only one answer why they failed to win a trophy - they weren't good enough. Simple as that.
Golden generation was 1966 tbh
For years the reason England and its so called golden generation never got to the later stages of a tournament was because as good as the individual players were in the sides, they simply couldnt retain possession over sides such as the Portugal, Croatia, Germany etc who proved to be their downfall. Without dominanting possession this led to England sides making stupid mistakes and being unreliable. This was true of England sides under Erikson, Capello, Hodgson etc. They tend to focus on Capello here....unlike the other England managers Capello had at least proven himself and won top honours in club football but he was outdated for modern football by the time he took the England role and it was a big misjudgement by the FA to appoint him. The ignorance with the Golden Generation is to forget just how strong Brazil, France, Spain, Italy, Portugal and Germany all were in that decade of 00 - 10. Even if England had been firing with good form (they were close to it in 04), they still would have had a job on beating the tougher teams in a must win knock out game.
The Portugal side of 2000 was much stronger than the teams of 2004 and 2006 who edged England out...
Agreed on possession. Very few of those players were nimble in tight spaces. Except for Scholes who was on the left.
You all slate Southgate but do you see the difference between the current crop? He gets more right than virtually evety manager before.
There's umpteen reasons why England didn't perform better than they did.
1) The players were good but they were never as good as their most ardent supporters thought. There hasn't been a genuine world's best player from anywhere in the UK in my lifetime. Teams can win without them but they help.
2) Other teams were never as bad as some of the media and fans would make out. I've seen many teams written off pre-game and that's never a good look. It puts neutrals against you, it heaps expectation (rather than confidence) on players and it creates a negative atmosphere. When things don't immediately fall for you then that bravado shows itself as being fairly brittle. At its worst, you see a team like Iceland score and the team then go completely into their shell as though they weren't up for a contest and expected to just cruise through in second gear. This isn't a winning mentality. It's one of entitlement.
3) Tactically, they have often seemed one-dimensional and even more so when they had a recognised talent who overshadowed others.. Other countries sometimes go on these long periods of playing the same way, using the same group, building coherence and team spirit. England seem to have tended to just throw players in and hope it works. At times, the football they've played (I'm remembering a team that played with Beckham and Crouch where they got tired and just started launching it up top) has been horrible to watch.
4) The media (and some fans) are addicted to the emotional rollercoaster and hype every minor event up to maximum effect. There's not a lot of maturity or realism and that doesn't seem the most conducive environment to build team spirit in. The fans and media would switch in the current flavour of the month into the team at any point and players tend to be treated either as heroes or zeroes. There's a sensationalism in it all where, whatever the reality, the line taken has to be more extreme to gather a reaction. It's mostly media-driven and was at its worst about twenty years ago. If any manager wants a team that acts like the Germany team of old and keeps its head in the pressure moments then they'd need to insulate the squad against all that ridiculous hype (the positive and the negative).
5) Club football rules our game and club football is mostly propped up by foreign players, coaches and owners. As a result, many fans tend to make a false equivalence between the Premier League and England, ignoring the fact that at club level there is actual detailed coaching between players with a developed understanding, and the best of them are rarely English. That's just in one league. Admittedly, it's a very strong international league nowadays but go back years and look across the top leagues and how many players from other nations were represented versus how many English players (which is less of an issue now). English players have tended to be drawn from one league, playing one style, all in one media bubble and largely defined by inter-club rivalries.
6) Style of play. England have never varied the speed they play at. They play at one speed until they tire. They tend not to have a Xavi or Pirlo who sits deep and knows when to play fast or hold the ball. Instead, it's all just quick one twos down the sides and repeat. This can work. You can overpower teams quickly. If it doesn't though you are doing this for 90mins plus with no alternative, not much creativity really and it can be countered quite easily when you inevitably tire. There's not much composure in their play at all. If England could add one player it would be a deep-lying playmaker rather than filling their midfield with box to box types and tacklers. This might be somewhat down to what fans expect too. They want blood and fury and a hundred miles an hour but most teams vary their style. This was far more apparent decades ago than now as the European leagues are all somewhat homogenised now but it's still baked in somewhere. Put them in a pressure knockout game and you know they'll start at a hundred miles an hour, attack down the sides, and no midfielder will have more than 2 seconds on the ball. Either they'll run over a team or they won't and struggle later on.
7) England have no divine right to win tournaments. There have always been better squads out there. There have always been better individual talents. There have always been teams that play a more attractive style of football. There have always been teams with better records. There have always been better managers. There have always been teams with better team spirit. England are usually (in my lifetime) a top 10 international side and fairly consistent with that. That's not really a failure unless you think they are better than that (and, if so, why?). As it happens, they are stronger now than previously but there are still better sides out there, whether on paper or (where it matters) when it comes to actually playing football in tournaments. That's okay. It's the same for every other country on Earth bar one at any particular time. Until you actually start winning then there is no point in expecting it. It serves no positive purpose. That doesn't mean being defeatist. It's just a call for some realism and respect of the opposition. Without that, no-one deserves to win anything. Real confidence feels no urge to express itself because it's felt internally, not needing external agreement. That insularity mixed with jingoism (in a sporting sense) was far more apparent decades ago than now but you still hear it in places and in enough numbers that it makes neutrals just shake their heads at it all. You'd need to somehow insulate a team from that as it's absolutely cancerous to team spirit and acts as motivation to opponents.
Accept the above, hope for the best, actually support rather than castigate, and England could win a tournament soon. I wouldn't make them favourites for the upcoming Euros but they could certainly win it. So, too, could....well, anyone in it really....but, more likely, France, Portugal, Spain, and all the usual suspects, with England in there too. But until such time as England become a team that steps up in the big moments rather than shrinks from them then they don't really deserve to be treating winning tournaments as something owed to them as they have nothing to back it up. Better to be low-key and let others take that mantle as there's nothing to be gained in that bravado and risking being obnoxious and plenty to be lost. As a nation, England are world-beaters at hype and the country loves the game but they ought to try flying under the radar sometime and seeing how it goes. They might just relax and perform better. But the media wouldn't want that. Measured pragmatism doesn't sell and sensationalism does. If they put less into hyping it all they'd probably get more out of it.
No tactics, absolute rubbish… rubbish excuses…
Capello Asks Walcott to say wide so Walcott come inside ? Do as he asks and he won’t scream at you…. Simple…
Look most of the reasons given ,poor management ,press coverage ,formations ,are all valid ,and certainly played a part in the golden generations failure.
But by far,England's biggest problem was the lack of quality gks and quality lms.
Greece had a better gk for 04 than England had for 02-14
Sven and capello were the wrong fit.
I don’t want to hear from the players on this anymore-ask the same questions to the managers at the time
Don't think we will get very far in this world cup tbh
These players should be ashmed themselves
Not to get fumed with those floppy managers theyve had
They suck without foreign players
I’m Scottish and can’t understand why English sides haven’t done better than they have over the last 2 or 3 decades.
England had , and have, the talent , much like all of the UK, but the lack of Man management behind the scenes is shocking.
IMO the best manager England have had over the last 30years was easily EL Tel. That team played like the could.
I hated getting beat by them at euro 96 but felt alright about it as they were a proper team.
It’s a shame the players are let down by those that should be leading.
El tell wasn't a yes man for the England board room
EL??
@@robbiebeaumont9338 Barcelona. Venables gained a good reputation as a manager with his successes at Crystal Palace and QPR, and this attracted offers from some of Europe's most prestigious clubs. In 1984, Venables took the role of manager at Barcelona, earning the sobriquet "El Tel".
Terry Venables tryed to play the right way unlike Sven, McLaren ,cappello, all horrendous managers for a generation of players who could've played much braver and expansivev
@@gymjampooky keegan was a good manager but he was too sentimental
The team wasn't good enough.
End of story.
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How many millions did Capello trouser an the players are saying we had no tactics. 😂 Unbelievable.
Anyone of these players could stand up an be that next manager a manager who puts things right an lifts a trophy.
Even now people say Southgate has no tactics.
Maybe no matter how many times you tell players your tactics if you lose they say you did not have any 😂
No blame on themselves….obviously
Reality was...England's best era wasnt better then spain or france simple.
Picking Walcott in 2006 was so dumb.
The team with lampard Rooney cole Ferdinand Beckham Terry Gerrard I feel that team should have won a world cup or at the very least a euros 🤦🤦
Why did the FA hire dinosaur capello?
Problem is England’s media overrates their own national team
They don’t though. That’s a myth
Big players for Englands domestic league. But during that World cup they were not even winning against Algeria and USA. In the next round they needed to play Germany, one of the big teams and obviously they did get hammered.
These guys were just not good enough.
As simple as that
I would pick Rio over Maguire for this World Cup
I’d pick Timmy Mallet over Maguire for this World Cup
@@davidgraham8058 the hand of MALLET 🤣🤣😂😂
Let's keep it a buck 50! International football has BEEN bin🚮🚮 since 2002 Korea fifa World Cup
So many players have said how awful Capello was as a person and a manager. No tactics was very clear watching them as well
02:18 I recently thought about that aswell and I came to the conlusion that - apart from the fact that most players of the so called "golden generation" were kinda overrated - they basically lacked the mentality to react to pressure. Most of the times the players in prem clubs who made the difference were foreigners. Tactically you had to explain everything to them but they can't really think for themselves in moments of pressure.
I dont think they did under acheive... They got to 3 quarter finals and that was their level. They could be among the top 8 international sides but never at the top of it,. Yes they could of been set up better. Stronger manager could of maybe sorted the lampard,/ gerrard debate, had them better tactically and played as a team, but they weren't as good as your Spains or Portugal or Brazils, so getting to quarter finals was what they were in my opinion, wouldn't say they under achieved but they wasn't able to over achieve and win something either
Not sure that's 100% correct. The 2006 WC side was full of players who were either match winners and "big game/moment" players for their Clubs OR players who had succeeded under pressure time and time again:
Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Ashley Cole - We've never had a better defence
Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Owen Hargreaves, Michael Carrick - Crazy talent and game control ability in midfield
Joe Cole, David Beckham - 2 of the best wingers in the world at the time and the best crosser in world football
Wayne Rooney & Michael Owen - Need we say more here?
You look at that group of players and a stunning team can be realised if we had better management and tactical nouse. Arguably, the best CM paring would likely have been Carrick, Hargreaves and one of either Stevie/Lamps rather than trying to play a pivot Gerrard/Lampard with Hargreaves having to do ALL of the work (he was our best player in 06 by a country mile).
Don't ever underestimate tactical importance (patterns of play/formation). It's why weaker teams perform so well and the best teams win!
Incorrect with the United team, becks, scholes, nev etc were consistent as fuck
They all had played the same role in their club. Scholes, Gerard and Lampard were all the playmaking midfielders that ball progression moves around. There wasn’t any top wingers apart from Beckham. They never put a true 6 on consistently. They never had a well rounded team.
The most stupid comment ever.
All of the players were out of this world!
Not surprised at all Joe Cole stuttering, shock horror
The midfield looked alright on paper…Gerrard, Cole, Lampard, Beckham.
But it NEVER delivered
Like Cole said.. no tactics. Gerrard & Lampard would never worked if they just doing their club style.
These lads were super poor at the highest level of football and that is fact. Every single England manager tried to implement a tactic of play with England, and the fact of the matter is the players weren’t intelligent enough to apply them. Do u really believe world class managers like Sven and Capello will send a team out without a way of playing?
It's never easily cause u never had a foreigner pulling the string. When will england fan realised we never really had world class player it's only we English fan thiught that. No team ever feared england
Capello era was shite
Although i respect roy hodgson
His era was shite too
Y the fa went on with those choices?
All those years gone for nothing to england
That is obsured
It should have been harry redknapp
All along
Now england have got gareth southgate a decent manager to the job
Englands midfield was always shocking back then.
So basically you were given simple instructions by your coach and you couldn’t follow them. And you say tactics were the issue? 😂
No tactics under 7 different managers one being Fabio C who was a tactical guru? I sense lies, lads. Rio literally just said Fabio said "stay out on the wings" that's clear tactics. The issue is they were arrogant players divided by club loyalty. Moaned and rebelled because Fabio banned mobiles and made them all dine together? Or Sven stopped club players sitting together and to all sit together, banning wags? How did Greece win the Euros but England didn't? The players! 😂 🤦🏻♂️
England have produced zero world class players THIS CENTURY. You can't name one who was the best in the world in their position. Graeme Souness reckons you can't win tournaments with less than three world class players in your team, he says the ideal number is five. That's the problem - the English talent pool is shallow, with people confusing European class players with genuine world class. Someone commented here that Joe Cole was world class. Give me strength, utter nonsense.
Truth is, England did not have the quality to win a major trophy. Just look at the track record of English « legends » in the Champions League and you’ll easily understand they are far inferior to France, Germany, Spain or Italy.
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Capello is a legendary coach who has won with Milan Juventus Roma Real Madrid, and Serie A was the most tactically advanced league in the world. So I doubt Capello’s tactics were the problem. It’s because the previous generation of England players had no tactical brains because that’s not how they were brought up playing. They can be stars in their clubs because they get to play with foreign players.
This is why Southgate deserve so much more respect than he gets.
He's clueless when it counts...