Evidences for a Pre-Trib Rapture | Lee Brainard
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- When will the Rapture occur? Will believers experience all or part of the Tribulation? What does the Bible say?
Join us on the #SoundWordsPodcast as we dive into biblical eschatology with Lee Brainard and explore the timing of the Rapture of the church.
Lee Brainard is a Bible teacher and author. You can learn more about Lee and his ministry by visiting his channel @Soothkeep.
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Lee has been a wonderful blessing for the church and for biblical studies in these dark times. God bless his ministry!
He teaches false doctrine. There is no pre-tribulation’s rapture.
@@teriter5712how much baby food should churches stockpile so our babies dont starve in the trib?
@@marleinsteinmetz5056 Babies and children under the age of accountability will be rescued before the tribulation. Recall the baby that David had with Uriah's wife Bathsheba.
2 Samuel 12:23 "But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”
@@teriter5712 If pre trib is not true then sadly Jesus is a liar! simple as that! Jesus not only promises his church will not endure wrath but will also not endure the hour of temptation that will come upon the whole world (99% of peer reviewed theologians say that means the final tribulation)...MY JESUS is NOT a LIAR!!!
After revelation 4 the church is only mentioned in heaven point one, point two, the first three things that the saints have to go through break the first three promises to the church. It’s time for people to repent from call God a liar.
Lee is a real man. BLESSED seeking kingdom of God
That sounds funny.
He is a man. Phew yes i can see that.
Zero evidence for Exodus and Moses, but Christians are too smug to actually check the archeological record, Dude. These prehistoric myths of 3500 years ago are without the slightest evidence, yet one billiom people will die for their trust in this myth. Please read that fine print on your spiritual plane ticket before the 2000th Easter in 2033. Pleased to meet you! Let's chat!
@martinkent333 I do know know my spiritual position. It's Holy. Yeah my spiritual ticket is Holy. Holy spirit of God. There's a spiritual realm but only one Holy spirit. God wants are faith, not evidence. There's zero evidence of the world being 400billion trilillion year old. Do you know how far humanity would be. It's been only 80years since the light bulb and automobile. How much farther humanity would be if they created the light bulb 400billion trillion years minus 5800 years. The world is no more then 7000 years. To be exact 2030 would be the 7000 year. And we do have evidence of Moses and exodus. It's called the bible. The bible is a source of the only original truth. A source of spiritual Holyness. Because we know other sorcery leads to evil. The bible is Good. The only good. You would have to take from bible to get good, truth, laws, like we still do today. Except islam because they are lawlessness. That's how the lawlessness one the b son of perdition comes from. But he will be a x muslim. Because won't honor t he gods of his fathers. And because the bible teaches prophecy and not atheism. We see were in end days revalation. And one called the son of hamas is the son of perdition. Making war whit saints to over come them. So you call the bible fake. So why do you obey it's laws and commandments
Biblical ,articulate and concise. Thank you!
Sound Words Podcast is at the top of my list now for the go to channel for pre tribulation Rapture information. The message today with brother Lee was great.
Thank you, Maranatha!
Amen, I love Brother Lee. Bible prophecy changed my walk with the Lord Jesus 🙏. I sure grew closer. Thank you & now I have a new channel to listen to.
He is awesome and why is this so attacked ? Maybe because it’s true . This is our hope and people are trying to blast it . I can feel such spiritual back lash if I share the truth on my fb and it’s coming from Christians
@@angelapearson4393 agree, if true - people refuse to accept it. See soon......if true
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Hi, Angela! Have you noticed that the other viewpoints of the Rapture, other than pre-trib, are never attacked? To be fair, not all deniers are vicious. They just reject dispensational theology in general. But the majority of them are vicious! I believe the deniers have never been born of the Spirit. All they have is head knowledge which is never applied to their hearts. So sad. 😔😥😪💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@kathierouse6046 I've noticed this as well. I think people who are more fearful, distrustful and controlling are attracted to the PostTrib, PreWrath, amillennial viewpoints. If they are in churches that lack discernment, I can see how many would not be saved or just lack discernment themselves.
@@kathierouse6046 Exactly. The love of the truth includes dispensations.
Thank you Lee. Yes pretribulation rapture brings hope to believers.
A false hope
@@chief270202. Not for those saved in Christ who understand the Bible.
I don't think anyone on Earth wants to believe in a pretrib rapture more than me, but it's simply not true. The tribulation and Great Tribulation will be absolutely horrible. Worse than anything before it and anything that comes after it, but if you are alive when it happens, you WILL go through it. "In the world you will have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world." was a promise He gave us.
@@sheepdog5097 And the church has indeed suffered tribulation since its inception: Christians were killed in Roman arenas for sport, and Nero used them as human torches to light his garden at night. This has continued throughout two millennia, and the church remains the most persecuted group on the planet as we speak. This tribulation is dramatically different from “the tribulation,” a time of such violence, hardship, want, terror, and brutality, as this world has ever known or will ever know again. It is from this specific 7-year tribulation that the church is not appointed: Yeshua ha’Mashiach has paid the price for the church. It is complete, finished, and not because of anything we could ever do to deserve such mercy, but all based on the finished work of the cross. The pre-trib harpatzo is biblical and correct.
@annemurphy9339 There is a 7-year period made up of two halves, but the tribulation and the great tribulation does NOT last 7-years. The time was cut short or else no flesh would be saved. In all the bible you will not find any evidence for a 7-year tribulation period. The focus here is on tribulation, not wrath.
Lee Brainard is SPOT ON👍👍
Yes, first the Bridegroom takes his Bride to the wedding.
After
the marriage supper of the Lamb, (Rev ch 19) we return with Christ to mt Zion in the Great second coming.
Hallelujah
Maranatha
1 Thessalonians 4 14 Jesus brings sleeping people with Him
1 Thessalonians 5 10 Whether WE wake or SLEEP
1 Corinthians 15 51 WE shall not all SLEEP
Daniel 12 2
And many of them that SLEEP in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
The church rapture is after the thousand year reign
John 6 39,40,44,54,
Jesus says at the last day four times
@@squirreljones3595
Interesting ,
(However, I see it differently.)
The main thing
Is that we all go to Christ when he calls us 🙏🕊️❤️
@@etaandtaz5867
Right
The church doesn't have one bible verse that promised them white robes or the thousand year reign
Revelation 7 14 white robes
Revelation 20 4 thousand year reign
The thousand year reign is promised to the saints that overcome the mark of the beast
Four verses after judgement day
Revelation 21 4 God wipes away the bride's tears
This is replacement theology at it's core. We are grafted into this ceremony with Israel and Christ. This is why in Isaiah it says he will was away the filth of the daughters of Zion. This is before his coming. Once the filth is washed away, you see in Revelation, the bride has made herself ready. That is why it is in chapter 19 of Revelation. This means the marriage has not happened yet. Isaiah 25 lays out the marriage supper also. This again, is with Israel, who we are grafted into.
@@richpalmer9886
This is a new perspective for me. Thanks for sharing it!
Lots to think about!
Ps
I believe we are grafted in.
I also believe we are the bride.
I’m trying to put the puzzle pieces together.
Lee is a great bible teacher. I have learned so much from him. So glad I found this channel. Thank you guys and Maranatha!
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Luke 21:36
Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.
✝️🙏🪔🛐
Maranatha o Lord
In context, that is talking about not falling for the worldly things happening all around us. Context being the verse before. This has nothing at all to do with any rapture.
@@brileri there are a number of escape verses, escape means escape..
@@marleinsteinmetz5056 lets have a look at them in context. Escape doesn't mean "taken out" necessarily, rather the context in which it is said defines the meaning. In Luke 21:36 the meaning is "don't let us fall for the things of this world" or "protect us from this world".
@@brileri wrong, not sure where you went to seminary, escape means escape, literally, do the full spectrum word study, and if you are jonesing to be starved, unmentionable acts, behedaded then be my guest..not me and my family
@@marleinsteinmetz5056 it doesn't make any difference what we want, and I can guarantee that no one wants to be killed by the antichrist. You can continue believing you won't ever see the antichrist, but when (not if) the antichrist is revealed and all christians are still on the earth it's gonna feel a lot more difficult to face him when you haven't mentaly prepared for it.
Making a verse say something you want it to say by taking it out of context doesn't make it biblical.
I call it the resurrection it’s called really the resurrection of those that are in Christ. Jesus they will be first, and then we will remain alive and shall be caught up with them to meet the Lord in the air.
My question is, aren't all believers in Christ? Old testament saints as well who were waiting for Messiah? They aren't in Christ? Separate ressurections? I don't get it
This was a 20 minute video. Lee has done well with the time given. I could present for four hours and well over 75 reasons for a pre-trib. rapture.
No passage in context actually teaches it. It's an idea brought to each passage. That is the problem.
@@Mike65809 no single passage teaches the trinity, or substitutionary atonement, or transubstantiation for you rccs, or a dozen other theological constructs...
@@marleinsteinmetz5056 Well good point. But there is a difference. Matt. 24 directly contradicts the idea of a pretrib rapture by Jesus addressing his one 2nd coming throughout the passage. He never said comings, but coming, and the disciples asked about his coming, not comings. Paul, in discussing the rapture, referred to it as his "coming" in 1 Thess. 4:15. So there is scant evidence, if any, for a pretrib rapture, and seeing somewhere it borders on presumption and ignoring what Jesus and Paul said about it. Regarding the trinity, there are many passages the do support it in context. The the bible reaffirms that Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit is God, and the Father is God. So we can conclude that the three are God. There is much an the substitutionary atonement.
@@Mike65809. Matthew 24 speaks to the tribulation, not the rapture.
@@annemurphy9339 Paul calls the time of the rapture "his coming". Did you know that? He even uses the same Greek word as in Matt. 24, parousia.
Be sanctified in Jesus Christ be a living sacrifice upon to to the Lord
Thank you Dr. Brainard!
What a blessing your teachings have been to me. So thankful for your sound doctrine.😊
Wow,I used to work for Safeway in Colorado. We went to Lincoln to open up a Safeway way back in the 1980’s, they had the best Prime Rib in Lincoln ! God guide, protect, prosper all of you ! Hallelujah!
Two passages that specifically use the word "escape" as a positive motivation to Christ-followers are Luke 21:36 ("keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things [trib judgments, vv. 25-35] and to stand before the Son of Man"), and 1 Thes 5:3-11 ("while they [the lost] are saying, 'peace and safety!' then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you brethren, are not in darkness that the day should overtake you like a thief....For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ...so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him....). Maranatha!
Agree. Okay.
Greetings Larry. Do you think the escape in Luke 21:36 is he rapture?
Blessings
yes! escape means escape!!! plain and simple! a "fire escape" isnt an asbestos suit and oxygen bottle for the fire, the fire escape gets you completely out of the burning bldg...
Not at all. He is saying that we are to be sober and awake, watching so it does not come like a thief in the night, as it will on the unbelievers. Notice Jesus describes his 2nd coming as a thief in the night also. Yet it never occurs to people that they are talking about the same event? Paul even calls the time of the rapture his "coming". See 1 Thess. 4:15.
@@Mike65809 so we are watching for the anti christ not Christ!!!!
One of the leading reasons people confuse a mid/post Tribulation is by replacing Israel with the Church. Covenant Theology and Replacement Theology are huge culprits. Additionally, do a parallel comparison of a Jewish wedding. Same pretribulational sequence as a groom comes for his bride.
So easy to approve & put my thumbs worth in.
Bro Lee is well studied in the Pre Tribulation Area. He is ahead of most because early on he was in the other camp until the Word of God revealed the truth.
My little Bible Church as a child taught pre tribulation rapture in the 1950s. So blessed to have gone there.
John 6 39,40,44,54,
Jesus says at the last day four times
I don't trust anyone but Jesus
The church rapture is after the thousand year reign
@@squirreljones3595 If pre trib is not true then sadly Jesus is a liar! simple as that! Jesus not only promises his church will not endure wrath but will also not endure the hour of temptation that will come upon the whole world (99% of peer reviewed theologians say that means the final tribulation)...MY JESUS is NOT a LIAR!!!
@@wwj14
Strange that you have no hesitation adding 1,007 years after the day Jesus calls the last day
The church doesn't have one bible verse that promised them white robes or the thousand year reign
Revelation 7 14 white robes
Revelation 20 4 thousand year reign
@@squirreljones3595your ignorance is showing. The final seven years for Israel aren’t done yet, they finish the last 7 years of the 6,000th year, dawning of the day of Christ, the church is the body of Christ. We go up as the morning star, then we come back at the second coming as the sunrise with Christ. We then rule with him for the 1,000 years. Btw you get this conclusion if you read your Bible instead of listening to Satan pretending to be the Holy Spirit. The church is glorified in Thessalonians and Paul refers to us as the royal priesthood in Corinthians. In revelation 4 you see glorified humans in white robes and reward crowns. These aren’t Israel saints from the Old Testament they get glorified along with the tribulation saints who are a part of the final 7 years of Israel that was appointed to them out of the 490, Jesus was cut off at 483 and those years have been put on pause since the church age. We are the beautiful gentile bride that submitted in obedience with zero evidence, the Jews had countless miracles and received not the messiah,but God knew they were a stubborn people that’s why he chose them.
I would not say that he is "well studied" but would say he is certainly well indoctrinated. Big difference. Seeing how Scriptures are being twisted and the context forsaken in a similar way that cults like JWs and Mormons do is a huge red flag. Anyone forcing Scripture to conform to doctrine instead of forcing doctrine to conform to Scripture is in danger of promoting cult-like teachings.
Here is what Lee should be doing. Below are a few verses to study. After each point the question we need to ask ourselves is, "What does this tell us?"
* According to Revelation 20:4-5, the “First Resurrection” of the dead in Christ to eternal life only happens after tribulation, not before. If this resurrection is not before the tribulation then a rapture of the Church before the tribulation is impossible (1 Thess 4:16). What does this tell us?
* The Church is explicitly told to expect tribulation right up until Christ’s glory is revealed (1 Pet 4:12-13). He does not reveal His glory until “immediately after the tribulation” (Matt 24:29-31). What does this tell us?
* The “Blessed Hope” of the Church is eternal life that is actualized at Christ’s appearance. (Titus 1:2, 2:13, 3:7, “In HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began … Looking for THAT BLESSED HOPE [eternal life], and the glorious appearing [epiphaneia] of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ… That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE.”) The "epiphaneia" only happens when "the lawless one" is destroyed by Christ "with the brightness [epiphaneia] of His coming" (2 Thess 2:8). What does this tell us?
* Revelation is written Semitically, not chronologically. There is recapitulation throughout the book where John writes about the Second Coming of Christ after the tribulation more than once (eg. Rev 6-7, Rev 10-11, Rev 14, Rev 19-20) and the “rapture” of the Church is clearly outlined in Revelation 10 at the seventh and last trumpet (cf. 1 Cor 15:52; Rev 10:7). What does this tell us?
* The “wrath” that the Church is not appointed unto is the “orge” wrath only per the original Greek. In English translations of Revelation, the word “wrath” is mentioned 13 times but the “orge” wrath per the Greek is only mentioned 6 times and is always in a post-trib context (cf. 1 Thess. 5:9; Rev 6:16-17; 11:18; 14:10; 16:19; 19:15). What does this tell us?
* The marriage supper of the Lamb and the Church only takes place AFTER the Lord judges the “great whore” and avenges “the blood of his servants at her hand.” (cf. Rev 19:2). This is His “orge” wrath per above. What does this tell us?
* In the Galilean wedding parable of the 5 wise and 5 foolish virgins in Matt 25, once the bridegroom comes the door is shut to the wedding feast. PERMANENTLY. No one can enter (Matt. 25:10-12). Jesus tells us in Luke 17:26-30 that as it was in the days of Noah and Lot, it will be the SAME when the Son of Man is revealed. When Noah entered the ark and God shut the door, the flood began on the SAME DAY and the destruction of those upon whom His wrath came began immediately (Luke 17:27), not 7 years later. On the SAME DAY that Lot departed Sodom, God rained down fire and brimstone from heaven and “destroyed them all.” Their destruction began immediately, not 7 years later. Likewise, once the rapture happens, the "orge" wrath of God begins on the SAME DAY and none can later be saved to take part in the marriage supper of the Lamb (which only happens AFTER the Lord judges the “great whore” and avenges “the blood of his servants at her hand” per Rev 19:2) -- but the pre-trib theory contradicts Christ’s words because we see a great multitude in Rev 7 “who come out of the great tribulation” that “have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” What does this tell us?
* Before the rapture, which Paul says happens on the Day of the Lord, we will see Antichrist revealed (2 Thess. 2:3, “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it [the Day of the Lord and our gathering to Him] will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed …”). According to Joel 2:31, Matt 24:29 and Zech 14:1,7, the Day of the Lord is immediately after the tribulation. What does this tell us?
* We are told by Christ in Luke 21:25-28 to watch for the post-trib “cosmic signs” and to be ready in Him so that we can escape all these things in “that Day.” Which day was Christ referring to? The Day of the Lord -- His return “immediately after the tribulation” in power and glory to destroy Antichrist (cf. Luke 21:25-36; Matt 24:29). What does this tell us?
* When speaking about the rapture in 2 Thess 2:1, Paul uses the word “episynagōgē” (G1997), which is from the word “episynagō” (G1996) - the exact word that Christ used in Matt 24:31 regarding the gathering of the elect immediately after the tribulation. Paul is referring directly to Christ’s own teaching in the Olivet Discourse and connects the “watching” for the rapture with Jesus’ instructions for His disciples to be watching for His coming “immediately after the tribulation.” What does this tell us?
few ask why would Jesus put his church thru the worst time in human history-worse than holocaust, holodomar, armeninean genocide, worse than belgian congo genocide and all the others ... just after church has faithfully taken the gospel to all tongues, nations and JUST before the millenial reign where the lion lies with lamb and child plays with cobra etc... answer, :it makes no sense whatsoever, and MY JESUS is a sensible fellow!!
Because he wants to show his glory by protecting us from the judgments according to Psalm 91. He is faithful to his own. But we will be persecuted!
@@Mike65809 almost all of us will be slaughtered!!!!
@@wwj14 I tend to agree. There will be those who will be alive and remain, but many will lose their heads. He makes war with the saints and ever comes them. Yet we overcome the Beast by the Blood of the Lamb, the word of our testimony, and that we don't love our lives unto the death. Amen? God bless.
If pre trib is not true then sadly Jesus is a liar! simple as that! Jesus not only promises his church will not endure wrath but will also not endure the hour of temptation that will come upon the whole world (99% of peer reviewed theologians say that means the final tribulation)...MY JESUS is NOT a LIAR!!!
The Lord Jesus words or teachings does not depend on any biblical interpretation. Christians must put themselves under the authority of God's word not God under your dispensational system of interpretation. Lee Brainard tells us that he has specialization on Greek and quoting Rev.3:10 that tells us the rapture of the church. Wrong! Rev. 3:10 does not tell us the rapture of the church, the word tereo means "keep" or "guard" does not mean rapture. Rev. 3:10 simply means the Lord Jesus will guard his church. So many words from this scholar that contrary what the Bible teaches about eschatology.
@@Camilodocan-ek1ls so exactly how much baby food is your church stockpilng so our babies dont starve in the trib? crickets! always crickets here!
@@wwj14the answer for your query is found in Matt. 24 and Rev. 3:10, read these passages with the eyes of faith
@@Camilodocan-ek1ls Its actually "ek" or "out of", not keep or guard. This is easily researchable, and it looks like you failed in that area, ghostwriter.
@@doncleveland1245it is true that the root meaning of ek is from, away from or out from. But the preposition ek is not the key to understand what the Lord has promised in Rev. 3:10. The preposition ek does not negate the verb tereo, however on the other hand, the verb tereo negate the motion of that preposition. We should be careful not to fall into the error of "root fallacy or etymological fallacy". Your understanding of Rev. 3:10 is not correct. The reknown N.T. scholar at DTS Daniel B. Wallace explains and I quote, "(Transitive preposition such as EK), when it is used with stative verb, such as tereo, kathemai, eimi, etc., the idea of motion is negated by the stative nature of the verb." Further He says, "What is the value of this discussion for exegesis? It is simply that too often prepositions are analyzed simplistically, etymologically, and without due consideration for the verb to which they are connected. Prepositions are often treated in isolation, as though their ontological meaning were still completely intact" in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics, page 359, words in open and close parentheses is mine. And I read Rev. 3:10 in my ESV Bible translation and compared to KJV, NIV, NET Bible, and etc. and I found out that they do not support your understanding.
I don't know if it was mentioned but Isaiah 26:20 to the end of the chapter is amazing. Definite rapture passage
I've heard of the name Lee Brainard several times since I was saved in the 90s. So glad I finally see and hear him! I've been thru the gamut of end-times beliefs, especially the first 2 or 3 years I was saved. It was all so confusing back then! There was a while there where I didn't realize there was more than one viewpoint! But, I kept reading and studying the Bible, and came to the Pre-Trib view by 2000. I was raised in a Holiness, Amillennial church (Church of God-Anderson IN), and they never spoke about End Times until a young, fresh from uni fella came to lead us. He and his wife became best friends with me and my husband. We started a Bible Study in our house and he was teaching on the Book of Revelation, and is was like nothing I had heard before! It actually scared me, and now I know why, I wasn't saved! That was in 1975, the Pastor took a job in Tennessee as pastor. My husband walked out on me ... and I started living like hell was a long way off. But God in His Mercy had other plans and brought me to my knees one late evening in the mid 90's. Thank You Jesus!!!
Awesome Lee great information
1 question.
Where does his 5-6 months being the duration of God's bowls of wrath come from, do you know? I dont recall where that is said in the holy bible. Please share that
Iwas taught as a little girl by my messianic grandpa to focus on the red letter words of Jesus in my red letter kjv bible, those red letter words say his church is not apptd to wrath and that his church will not go through the time of testing/temptation that will come upon the whole earth ( 99% of peer reviewed expert theologians say that time is the coming global great tribulation)..my Jesus is not a liar, so church HAS to be removed before coming final antichrist....my Jesus is not a liar!
Greetings Marlein, Rev. 13:7 says the AC will war against the saints. For him to do that, the church must be on the earth during the tribulation. See also Dan. 7:25. Peace and blessings:)
@@slamdunk4879 the 144,000 will witness , trib saints will be from those left behind,
I agree
Not only that, All of God's wrath was poured out on Jesus at the cross. Christ now lives IN US. we are told we are the BODY OF CHRIST, so why would God subject his son to a second wrath? He WOULD NOT.
@slamdunk4879 actually scripture is surely referring to tribulation saints who came to faith after the rapture. The left behind church will see the most phenomenal revival ever, unfortunately at a cost of being on earth when true believers are gone.
Jesus tells us to persevere and remain standing for a reason. While won’t go through the great tribulation, Jesus does promise us that we’ll go through tribulation and persecution in the last days. Please, there’s a channel called “We Are Jesus Doers” that has many biblical studies on the matter and teaches us to search the word for ourselves under the Holy Spirit’s guidance. There will be many false doctrines in the last days and we all have a responsibility to seek the truth in Jesus.
I came across this randomly and am amazed that you’re pastors at Indian Hills Community Church because I used to go their back around 1993.
We believe in the Pre Trib rapture wholeheartedly!⛪⛪⛪⛪⛪
You should always check the context of each passage that supposedly supports a pretrib rapture. You will see there is no reason in context to believe such an idea. It's a theory brought to each passage, but not found in the passage. God bless.
Mary, why do you really believe in a pretrib rapture? What makes you think or believe that the body of Christ (the church) is different just prior to the great tribulation than the body of Christ (the church) that has endured persecution, tribulation, and death for 2000+ years since the day He was taken down off the tree ? Where is the righteous judgement in that? Are you so naive to not see the irony of that? And the body of Christ is under terrible persecution even more today. Think about it. If you live in the US, you don't know persecution. We are protected by the Bill of Rights from religious persecution. Just think about what would happen if that is taken away. Just answer one question: When did Jesus explicitly say he would raise you, marybernstein6498, up from the dead? That's all you have to answer.
@@easttexan2933 why are you so concerned with what I believe
@@Mike65809 why are you so concerned with my faith and soul
@@marybernstein6498 You posted a comment, why, if you didn't want people to know what you believe?
Hi Pastor Lee, God bless you and all reading this🙏🏼❤️
I feel people get confused with tribulation and wrath. Noah and all others had to endure tribulation yet were spared Gods wrath. I believe we will go through tribulation, but ( pray ) were Worthy to escape His wrath. Its clear that the ones clothes in white wrobes with harps standing on the sea of glass, endured the tribulation. God bless, we'll all find out soon, praying we are all together.
Thank you!! 🙏
Pre-Trib Rapture is 100% true.
Within v. 36 he says to escape all these things "that are about to take place" (not merely worldly things), clearly referring to all the things he began discussing in v. 25, and then he continues, "and to stand before the Son of Man," connecting their removal from those things about to happen with standing before Christ, which refers to a heavenly, not earthly place (very similar to Rev. 3:10-11).
You won't escape them if he said you would see them, right? Didn't he say "when you see these things..."? What you escape from is the anxiety and drunkenness he described just before he comes. To stand according to Paul means to stand in the evil day. It never means to be in the rapture.
Great message!
In light of the Tribulation context of Lk 21:36, the most natural interpretation of "escape" demands that this occurs via the rapture because the next event after the escape is our standing before the Son of Man, which I believe refers to the bema judgment seat, rewarding believers for their faithful service while on earth (1 Cor 3:10-15; 4:4-5; 2 Cor 5:6-10).
The context of Luke 21:36 is the verse before, which then means the "escape" is from worldly things mentioned, like drunkenness and cares of this world. It has nothing at all to do with any rapture.
@@brileri you dont escape drunkeness or cares, you DO ESCAPE the worst years in all human history, worse than auschwitz etc...
Please pray for my family my husband went home to Heaven April 12th just last month we was married 29 years and we have three adults kids my son three cars away from the motorcycle wreck we need our Lord Jesus Christ to just give us his peace and the holy Spirit amen.
Trust in him. He knows.
THANK YOU. BROTHERS !
RIGHT NOW IM IN A CUSTODY FOR MY GRANDDAUGHTER 7 yrs old AGAINST MY DAUGHTER 23 yrs old WITH A GUY WHO IS VERY NASTY UNSAVED ……
ASKING FOR PRAYERS !
MAY GOD. BLESS YOU ALL !
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Great explanations again on this viewpoint of the Pre Tribulation Rapture.
"The Blessed Hope", is the Compass.
Rev 13:7 He was also permitted to wage war against the saints (God’s people) and to overcome them, and authority and power over every tribe and people and language and nation.
I am definitely a pretrib believer. But I am interested in learning more about the post millennial view. I would love to hear commentary on this view point, doctrine and history that prove it wrong if possible. Thanks!
“We just have to let the Bible speak for itself”, that is, as long as it fits the Darby/Scofield dispensational narrative. ✔️
“Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus and our being GATHERED TOGETHER to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter from JOHN DARBY, seem-ing to be from us, to the effect that the DAY OF THE LORD HAS COME.” (2 Thes. 2:1)
@@slamdunk4879 Hilarious. This made me laugh. Darby was a fraud. Good post.
plenty of scripture and passages that teach a pre trib rapture ? can anyone please give me a list?
Some times the discerning question at times
In the believers Life is Wether am i facing CORRECTION? or A TESTING OF OUR FAITH ? I know this wasn't Rapture info. Romans 8:28, you just made me think of those truths by talking about persecution & wrath
Clear scriptures when Jesus comes back❤ Revelation 24:29-31 John 6:39,40,44,54 Revelations 20:4-6 First Ressurection blessed are those in 1st ressurection. SERIOUS WARNING do NOT add or take away! Rev.22:18-19🙏
As I understand the process, the Rapture of the Church is necessary so that God can turn again to deal with Israel/the Jews. They have pad a TERRIBLE price for rejecting Jesus. They will need a space of time (i.e. Daniel's 70th week) specifically dedicated for them to be brought to see the true Messiah, not the false Antichrist. Look up, for our Redemption draweth nigh. Come soon, Lord Jesus!!
I have a question because in 1 Thess 4:16-17, the word to "meet" is key. The word for “meet” that Paul used is the Greek word “apantēsis” -- a very special word that only occurs here and in three other places in Scripture. In Vocabulary of the Greek Testament by G. Milligan and James Hope Moulton, “The word apantesis seems to have been a kind of official welcome of a newly arriving dignitary - a usage which accords excellently with its NT usage.”
In Greek culture the word “apantēsis” had a technical meaning to describe the visit of a dignitary or a king or a famous person to a city where the visitor would be formally met by citizens or a deputation that would rush to meet them and then ceremonially escort them back into the city. For instance, when a Roman emperor approached a city, the leading citizens went out to welcome him and had the honor of processing into the city with him. This whole event was described as the “apantēsis.”
In Matthew 25:1,6 it describes the virgins going out to meet the bridegroom, to escort him back into the house. In Acts 28:14-16 it is used to describe brethren from Rome coming out to Appii Forum, to meet Paul and his company, and then escort them back to Rome. In each example of “apantēsis” the escort back is virtually immediate. We don’t have them going out to meet the subject, then going to where the subject came from for years, and then later escorting the subject back. That was not the custom. The subject who was coming is met by those who are already at his destination. And what is His destination? Where we are - Earth.
This verse suggeats that when Christ comes back to Earth, we will go out to meet Him, and will remain in the air temporarily until the indignation ("orge" wrath) is complete, and we immediately escort Him back:
Zechariah 14:4-5, “And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, [Making] a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south… Thus the LORD my God will come, *And all the saints with You.*”
Scripture is not telling us here that we are removed from the Earth to conveniently go to Heaven while the wicked remain to unleash global hell. Those of us who are alive and remain (the Greek word means those who survive) are transformed from corruptible to incorruptible, and we are caught up to meet the Lord in the air to then escort the King of Kings back to Earth - ie. Jerusalem - which is consistent with its usage in every single verse of Scripture. Why does the pre-trib position suddenly change the intended meaning of the "apantēsis"? Instead of us escorting the Messiah back to Earth for His Second Coming, pre-tribism has the arriving King making a sudden U-turn to conveniently take us to Heaven instead, which the text does not say anywhere, at any place, at any time.
Proverbs 10:30, “The righteous will never be removed, But the wicked will not inhabit the earth.”
The church rapture is after the thousand year reign
John 6 39,40,44,54
Jesus says at the last day four times
Revelation 20 shows two resurrections
One is called the first resurrection
One is at the last day of the first earth
One taken one left is not a last day
The ten virgins story is a last day
The church doesn't need a resurrected body for anything until New Jerusalem
1 Thessalonians 4 14 Jesus brings sleeping people with Him
Jesus is truth keep the faith
If pre trib is not true then sadly Jesus is a liar! simple as that! Jesus not only promises his church will not endure wrath but will also not endure the hour of temptation that will come upon the whole world (99% of peer reviewed theologians say that means the final tribulation)...MY JESUS is NOT a LIAR!!!
@wwj14 Read the original post above again. Pay close attention to what the original Greek is telling us, not simply to what is lost in our English translations.
@@2Timothy2.15 i prefer the septuagint and Latin Vulgate, rapture is crystal clear !
@marleinsteinmetz5056 No, it isn’t. Because pre-tribism is a cuIt-Iike doctrine that requires one to read it into the text eisegetically. It is nowhere to be found exegetically, hermeneutically or contextually.
Before the rapture, which Paul says happens on the Day of the Lord, we will see Antichrist revealed (2 Thess. 2:3, “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it [the Day of the Lord and our gathering to Him] will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed …”). According to Joel 2:31, Matt 24:29 and Zech 14:1,7, the Day of the Lord is immediately after the tribulation. What does this tell us?
Or how about when speaking about the rapture in 2 Thess 2:1, Paul uses the word “episynagōgē” (G1997), which is from the word “episynagō” (G1996) - the exact word that Christ used in Matt 24:31 regarding the gathering of the elect immediately after the tribulation. Paul is referring directly to Christ’s own teaching in the Olivet Discourse and connects the “watching” for the rapture with Jesus’ instructions for His disciples to be watching for His coming “immediately after the tribulation.” What does this tell us?
Let’s wait talking about that till the temple is built as I recall the two witnesses will be in the temple or at the temple so how long does it take to build this temple?
@8:49 how does one “eckscape” something?”
I have something to add. Our Heavenly Abba GOD Almighty (Jesus Christ) spoke to me about this tribulation vs great tribulation not too long ago...
HE said "THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS LIVING A LIFE WITHOUT MY PRESENCE".
What does that say about the RAPTURE ?
Pre-tribulation RAPTURE 💯% if you ask me...
Please read the Bible and apply Acts 2:38 to your lives if you haven't already 🙏🏻 before it's too late ⏳⌛. Must be rapture ready...
Pre-Wrath Rapture best fits scripture.
I'm still not convinced by the verses that he gives for pre-trib rapture. John 14:1-3 could be about the second coming, how does he know it's about the rapture? He could be coming back to take us with him after the second coming. Revelation3:10 Doesn't mean God is keeping us from the hour of trial by rapturing us, it could be he is protecting us while we're here on earth. I'm just not convinced by these verses.
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Where Paul understood the dead rising first.
Isaiah 26:19-21
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
What does an understanding of the New Covenant do to the Pretrib Rapture doctrine?
Since the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20, how is the New Covenant Church age going to end seven years before the Second Coming of Christ? Why would anyone think God is going back to the Old Covenant system now made “obsolete” by the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:13? We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.
The Capitol "C" Church, as we use the word today, is not found in the entire Book of Revelation. Individual church bodies in ancient Asia Minor are found. In Revelation 12:11 we find those under the blood of the Lamb. A person cannot be under the blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the New Covenant Church of Jesus Christ. Verse 12 of this passage proves at least part of the tribulation period is the wrath of Satan upon the people of God.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
"It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view."
(The quotation above is from the book "Will You Escape The Tribulation? RAPTURE [Under Attack]", by Tim LaHaye, copyright 1998, Page 197.) Tim LaHaye was co-author of the “Left Behind” books and movies which have convinced millions of modern Christians that the Church age ends seven years before the Second Coming of Christ. Recently, Pastor Matt Furse of Mountain View Baptist Church in Custer, S.D. has written a book titled “Which One Is Right?’, which reveals the recent history of the pretrib rapture doctrine, and the fact it does not agree with what is written in the King James Bible.
The gathering of the Church is described at the end of 1 Thess. Chapter 4, and the timing of the event is found in chapter 5. The word “But” in the first verse of chapter 5 connects the two chapters, and the words “we” and “sleep” in verse 10 of chapter 5 prove the two chapters are connected.
The Greek words for “wrath” and “tribulation” are not the same word, as proven by the verse below.
Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Watch the CZcams video “Pretribulation Paradox” by former pretrib believer skydiver626.
Zephaniah 2:1-3 Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired;
Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you.
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. (clearly pre-trib)
Chapter 4 of Revelation, we are no longer here after this chapter❤🕊️🇮🇱✡️🙏🏻
What does this chapter mean?
2 Thessalonians 2
King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and word.
Τhe church of Christ, whose head is Christ, hinders the antichrist, as the hinderer is gone (church) , the antichrist will be revealed..ThessB' tells αbout second presence of Christ and the Thess A' tells for the rapture and the ressurection of believers (Jesus's bride)..blessings from Greece...
@@An.pis. Are you suggesting that "the great falling away" is the rapture, then the Antichrist will unrestrained?
Apostasia (falling away/rebellion) is used in the rest of the bible several times (5 times in the Old Testament and 2 times in the New Testament) and it always meets the Strong's Greek Lexicon definition as follows:
ἀποστασία apostasía, ap-os-tas-ee'-ah; feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly, the state) ("apostasy"):-falling away, forsake.
Dr Paul Feinberg (a pre trib theologian) did a study of non biblical uses of the term apostasia from around a 300 year period spanning the approximate times before and after the writing of the Books of Thessalonians. Here is a direct quote on his conclusion:
"If one searches for the use of the noun "apostasy" in the 355 occurrences over the 300 year period between the second century b.c. and the first century a.d., one will not find a single instance where this word refers to a physical departure."
I pray that we could set aside any preconceived notions on the rapture timing then read the entire chapter of Matthew 24, the books of 1 and 2 Thessalonians and Revelation, then see how all this scripture comes together. I don't know how anyone doing so could come to a pre-trib notion.
amen
Pre trib Amen
It took some time to watch this. A few things that really stuck out to me is that a post tribulation for a pre-wrath view was really pushed off as it doesn’t make sense. There wasn’t really any scripture navigating anyone who takes that standpoint.
He makes the comment in this video that at the end of the tribulation people either have the mark of the beast or the dwelling of the Holy Spirit. There are a few issues. Pre-tribulation view one of the focal points is the Holy Spirit is the restrainer. If the Holy Spirit is removed, it would no longer be indwelling. This presents a problem. Also, scripture actually tells us in the book of Jeremiah, chapter 17, there will be people left over from the tribulation, not a part of the millennial kingdom.
The next thing is that, of course Jacob‘s trouble is to chastise Israel. Of course it is to bring them to Jesus. However, we are grafted into that branch. Paul addresses this in Romans 11. We are not separated from Israel. This argument isn’t very robust as the video claims. There’s not scripture To back up these statements. The most telling piece about it, is the church did not exist and was not revealed to Israel at the time of Daniel. Israel are God’s chosen people. They belong to God, as the church does. You cannot reasonably expect the church to be mentioned in the old testament when it was not revealed yet.
He proceeds to read first Thessalonians 4. What I find to be very ironic in this, is that if you were to write down the events in Matthew chapter 24 and what called describes in first Thessalonians 4, you will see many similarities. I want to add that in Matthew chapter 24, people saying that is for the Jews. That is simply not true. If you look at who he was speaking to, it was specifically and privately his disciples. They are Christians who went and taught the church. Yes, they were Jewish. They were also the church. The other thing to confirm Matthew 24 and 1 Thessalonians 4 are the same is in Romans 11. If you look at verses Romans 11: 26 and 27, they talk about two things. The first is actually in verse 25 and it’s the fullness of the gentiles. The gentiles can only be full at the end of the tribulation. However, versus 26 and 27 talk about the deliver will come from Zion. We all know Jesus returns to the Mt of Olives and makes his way to Zion. This means there is a Jewish population that is not raptured. This in turn brings us back to Matthew 24 and talking about the elect who are gathered and caught up with Christ, are those who believe in Christ. I want to mention tribulation saints here. You will never find scripture any distinction between somebody alive during the tribulation and someone in a pre-tribulation as a rapture saint. if anybody could propose a verse or such a verses that shows that distinction, I will gladly re-endorse pre-tribulation.
He goes on “early church text and misses the mark completely. Everything he talks about is from a point of the conclusion so the evidence can fit it. If you listen to what he says, you can actually see the fatal flaw. He says the last thing, the resurrection of the dead, yet not of all, and all of the Saints coming with him. There’s a massive contradiction here. We cannot have all of the Saints coming, but not all of the Saints coming in the same statement. It’s very clear not all of the dead are going to be resurrected. We know this because scripture confirms this. Those who are in the Lord will be raised at the time of his coming. Those who are not Will not be until the end of the 1000 year reign. I could keep going. I already feel that this is very lengthy and I hope anyone who chooses to read this understands what is at risk by giving people hope that has the possibility of faltering because of our own interpretations. I do truly hope the rapture is pre-tribulation, however I do believe we all need to be prepared because it seems scripture tells us that Christ’s second coming and Rapture will be at the end of the tribulation
How much baby food is your posy trib church stockpiling so our babies dont starve in the trib? None you say! Greedy? Cruel?
Well written post Rich.
The 7 years is strictly for unbelievers. Daniel also teaches this, as well as the Book of Enoch. Believers are removed. Unbelievers who change their mind during the tribulation get to be martyred for Christ. Unbelief is the premise for the 7 years.
@@doncleveland1245 nope, it’s the chastisement of Israel, who we grafted into. The Day of the Lord is for both believers and unbelievers. Believers are saved with him, unbelievers face Gods wrath.
@@richpalmer9886 Negative ghostwriter. You seem to think we are grafted into unbelief, and only a non-believer would think that. You seem to think little kids will be here for the mark of the beast, because with your doctrine, you will have 4 years olds taking it because they saw what happened to mommy and daddy. Little Johnny doesn't want to lose his head, "rich". Jesus tells us "let the children come to me and do not hinder them, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven..." correct? Guess what? Jesus isn't making a special trip to hell to get little johhny out. if you have 400 million children on the earth, how do you get every one of them to lose their head and be martyred?? Explain this to me big guy.
I looked at Rev 3:10 and don't see where it supports a pre-trib rapture:
Rev 3:10, "Because you have kept (tēreō) My command to persevere, I also will keep you from (tēreō ek) the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth."
The word for "keep" (tēreō) means to "take care of, to guard, to keep one in the state in which he is" and does not even imply physical removal. If anything, it means the opposite. We know this because of how it is used elsewhere in Scripture. Here is one of dozens of examples:
John 17:15, "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should KEEP them from (tēreō ek) the evil one."
Jesus is very clear, "tēreō" means spiritual protection and/or preservation. There are dozens of examples of this in the New Testament. Revelation 3:10 in no way, shape or form teaches a pre-trib rapture. It is textually impossible.
AMEN!!! there is truth here. There will be no early pre-tribulation rapture. We will all see Him when he COMES. At his COMING. The END. The LAST TRUMP.
Anyone curious might see my post with more explanation and clear Scriptural reference.
If you would read Revelation 3 11 you would understand Revelation 3 10
Matthew 24 9 -15 Jesus says ALL NATIONS kill people for Jesus namesake before the
Abomination of desolation
Jews won't believe in Jesus until after the
Abomination of desolation
Mark of the beast is after the
Abomination of desolation
Jesus just told us
MAN REMOVES THE CHURCH before the mark of the beast
Persecution coming
Jesus is truth keep the faith
If pre trib is not true then sadly Jesus is a liar! simple as that! Jesus not only promises his church will not endure wrath but will also not endure the hour of temptation that will come upon the whole world (99% of peer reviewed theologians say that means the final tribulation)...MY JESUS is NOT a LIAR!!!
@@wwj14
But if there's more days after the day Jesus calls the last day
That's not a lie?
John 6 39,40,44,54
Jesus says at the last day four times
@@wwj14 No. the wrath of God does not come upon the church because we dwell in the secret place of the most high (Ps. 91), and are not those who "dwell upon the earth."
Dear Lee, and God bless you brother. I was pretrib many years until I came across Dan. 7:25 and Rev. 13:7. Aren't these clear passages which show the church in the tribulation?
I wonder that too. I just asked the Lord to explain it to me, I want to be sure so I can tell others what’s going on. Father God, I ask that You would show us through Your Word and the Holy Spirit how all this scripture works together and the truth about the catching away of the church. I ask for this, In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Thank You.
I believe it goes along with the dragon going after the rest of the saints, in Rev. 12:16-17
You're welcome to believe in the pre-trib rapture, as long as you don't lose your faith when you realize you're in the middle of the great tribulation and you're still here.
Pre Trib sure paints a pretty picture
I wish the disciples had it that easy.
Nobody knows the time or the hour
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All we need is God's word. I've seen a brother led astray by reading and recommending other books outside of the 66 books.
Solomon didn’t have to go to any school to learn. He was really given the knowledge to heavenly knowledge.
what was the teaching before 1800?
On the last day "all" in the graves will hear my voice an come forth some to eternal life some to condemnation.
I thought I heard him, Lee Brainard speaking with Tyler last time that he is not of the the view of the pre-trib rapture but more of post-trib rapture? Anyone can confirm this? I can't be sure on this this...I thought he was a proponent for the post-trib rapture.
Wow stunning Guest with all languages ❤
Don't get too excited with a "language scholar" unless they can order and fancy drink from a coffee stand in whatever language they claim to be an expert in. lol
Here's my problem with the whole thing. What does God say about his word, from cover to cover of the bible? He said, "My Yolk Is Easy". He doesn't speak in code, and he doesn't want any confusion, or arguing, or disagreement on what his word does, or doesn't say. The problem is that from Jesus's time, up until the late 1800''s, Christians and believers the world over didn't teach, or believe in a pre trib rapture. So pre trib doctrine is very very new in the history of Christian faith. One would think, especially with something that important, that the Lord would've been very plain and clear on this. You shouldn't need to bounce around from book to book, and look for things that sounds like what you want to believe. That's basically wishful thinking doctrine, and I think that's dangerous. Why wouldn't he just clearly and plainly, in a single sentence say, "The Church Will Be 100% Raptured Before Tribulation, So Do Not Fear It"? So what if the tribulation happens and the church is still here? Your going to have so many confused people, and confusion is going to turn into anger and fear, and I'm afraid a ton of people are going to lose their faith because of it.
The problem is you are ignorant
That's your problem
The Bible calls you to study and show thyself approved
A workman....
See spot run isn't the Bible
A word that isn't in the Bible
Is Bible
Another... Trinity
You have to study
CLEARLY you haven't
Please explain who the 24 Elders are and where did they come from Rev. 5:9 and 10. Then tell me who are the Multitudes of Rev. 7:9 and where they came from. Then Tell me what the Elder told John in Rev. 7:14!!! ( HINT: every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation)
Oh my boy howdy. Jesus is coming to get the Body of Christ very soon.
„Very soon“ could mean today, but also up to End 2025 could mean „very soon“.
If the rapture happens just before the day of the Lord (2 Thes. 2:1,2) then it can't be pretrib if the DOL follows the celestial events of Joel 2;31 and the tribulation (Mt. 24:29).
@@slamdunk4879 Therefore the day of the Lord will happen more than 7 years after the pre-tribulation rapture. Simply two different events:
A) Rapture before the 7 years tribulation.
B) Second coming on earth after the 7 years tribulation.
It is essential not to mix up these two different events.
Just to see if I got this right, the pretrib is true, it’s just that it will be a long while of suffering more before it happens? 😓😩
Christ is my hope and joy, but this world has been draining me for decades and my will is getting weaker and weaker. I’m trying so hard to cope and I am absolutely terrified that my exhaustion and weakness from years of weight and struggle will cause me to make a wrong turn before He saves us. 😞
Ephesians 2:8-9: For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
@@ElianAbi Will I at least be out of here before the motb is implemented?
@CinderellaRaptured333 If you put your full trust in Jesus then you will be raptured before the tribulation begins. Don't be alarmed I could be wrong, but I believe there's a chance that believers who became lukewarm (mixing law and grace) or left their first love are chastised by God and raptured not before, but at midpoint (before motb) when they've realized their Galatian error (trusting in good works, repenting of sins etc) to keep them saved or "rapture ready". The only reason we're rapture ready or justified in the eyes of God is because of Jesus. The fact you are worrying about "being ready" shows you realize you fall short (as we all do), but you've not yet acknowledged that the only reason we're ready is because of Jesus. It's all Him sister. No need to trust in yourself or worry then. Doing that is partially denying what Christ did on the cross and trusting in your flesh (works), that's why it's so serious in God's eyes (as we read in Hebrews). You'll be alright if you put your _full_ trust in Him. Did you know 'faith' means 'trust' in the Greek. God bless sis you'll be alright. When we are faithless He is faithful (2 Timothy 2:13) and we can being confident that He who begun a good work in you will perform it until the Day of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:6) 🙏
Jeremiah 39:18
For I will surely deliver thee, and thou shalt not fall by the sword, but thy life shall be for a prey unto thee: _because thou hast put thy trust in me,_ saith the Lord.
Isaiah 26:3
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: _because he trusteth in thee._
Psalm 91:14
_Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him:_ I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
@@ElianAbi
Jesus of Nazareth - If you Love me, keep my Commandments .... ❤ 😇
Nobody can keep His commandments. We are all law breakers not law keepers. We are not under law but under grace. You should reckon yourself dead to sin. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are _fallen away_ from grace. If you reckon yourself to be under commandment keeping you should if you wish to be perfect (i.e. _the_ standard to get into Heaven): 1. sell _everything_ you own and give it to the poor 2. pluck out eye if you lust 3. cut off hand if you commit sin. It's better to do that than to go to Hell. Jesus said so (Matthew 5).
- By the law nobody shall be justified:
Romans 3:20 - _Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin._
- The law was a schoolmaster to make us guilty and point us to Christ:
Romans 5:20 - Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more
Galatians 3:24 - _Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith._
- We need to stand fast in the liberty by which Christ has made us free:
Galatians 5:1 - _Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage._
- Strive to enter into His rest or else it's UNBELIEF:
Hebrews 4:11 - _Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of UNBELIEF._
- If you keep sinning (i.e. believing you are law keeper) then Paul has some harsh words:
Hebrews 10:26-27 _For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries._
- The just shall live by faith and God has no pleasure in people who draw back (from faith to law keeping aka self righteousness which is Pharisaical hypocrisy/leaven):
Habakkuk 2:4
_“Behold the proud,
His soul is not upright in him;
But the just shall live by his faith._
Hebrews 10:38
_Now the just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”_
- The law is a shadow, but Christ is the substance (i.e. body):
Colossians 2:16-17 _So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance[body] is of Christ._
- We should not fear going to Hell because we _know_ we have eternal life (do you? and if not do you believe/trust?):
1 John 4:18 _There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment[punishment]. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love._
1 John 5:13 _These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God._
- If you believe or trust in Christ then you are truly free and not under the yoke/bondage of the Law. Then you have peace:
John 8:32 _And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free._
John 14:27 _Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid._
John 8:36 _Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed._
- You need to be perfect to enter Heaven. Be perfect as your Father in Heaven (good luck). Unless your righteousness (law keeping) exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees you will by no means enter Heaven (Matthew 5:20). Thank God we have Christ's imputed righteousness because HE fulfilled the Law and paid our penalty:
1 Corinthians 1:30 _But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God - and righteousness and sanctification and redemption_
*It's Christ or nothing. You don't have what it takes to enter Heaven no matter how hard you try. Stop trampling the Son of God underfoot and offering your own sacrifices (repenting of sins, law keeping, doing good works). You should do good deeds, but not for salvation. You only repent once for salvation. That is biblical repentance. Don't be the people in Matthew 7:22 who thought **_they_** did many wonderful works.*
- Only those that do the will of the Father will enter Heaven:
Matthew 7:21 _Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven._
John 6:40 _And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day._
- This is the work (singular) of God:
John 6:28-29 _28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works (PLURAL) of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work (SINGULAR) of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”_
Notice how Jesus answers in the singular when His disciples ask which works they may do.
- Jesus told us to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is self-righteousness, pride and hypocrisy. The hypocrisy is that people really believe they can maintain a certain degree of righteousness to enter Heaven and that Jesus was just for the remaining sin in their life. It's complete blasphemy.
Luke 12:1 _In the meantime, when an innumerable multitude of people had gathered together, so that they trampled one another, He began to say to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the [a]leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy._
Matthew 16:12 _Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees._
- I know I have eternal life and am not afraid:
Jesus of Nazareth - _"And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do YOU believe this?"_
Lee I would really appreciate if you went up against the pre-wrath rapture with love of course and specifically Dr. Alan Kurschner. Break it down for us verse by verse.
Lee won't respond here...this is *NOT* his channel. The position that Kurschner aligns with is easily debunked.
@Kman. If you wouldn't mind, please debunk AK's position with scriptures. Thanks.
@@andrewdevore This isn't the video to do so. I've weighed in on *SEVERAL* pre-wrath videos in the comment section, with direct responses to the points offered up. Maybe I'll catch you on one of them(?) as opposed to you _T R O L L I N G_ away here? All the best to you in your search for truth, *MARANATHA!*
@@Kman. Kman you are a nutcase!! seriously, go save unborn babies, witness to the lost, somehting useful!!
Which bible do these use?
You can type in any verse a/one is quoting & that will get you w/ever version it is they're quoting.
@@Kman. the modern bibles are not God's word but bibles of devils
Where does it say there will be 7 years of tribulation. 3 1/2 is the great tribulation spoken of by yeshusa. looking for answers
The 70th week in the book of Daniel
I used to believe that the full 70th week was still future, until I really began to study the words of Scripture. What does it say? If we read the text carefully it becomes apparent that Daniel 9:26 does not say that the cutting off of Messiah is what ends the 7+62 weeks, as the full futurist view assumes. Rather, Daniel is saying that AFTER the 7+62 weeks is when the Messiah would be “cut off.” In other words, the Messiah is killed during the 70th week.
Furthermore, a careful study of Daniel 9:27 shows us that the Messiah is the one who confirms the covenant, not Antichrist.
Notice how Daniel 9:26 speaks of two subjects, namely, the Messiah and the “people of the prince that shall come.” Even the original Hebrew of Daniel 9:27 infers that two separate subjects are in view. Contextually, this would have to be the Messiah and “the people of the prince that shall come” per the preceding verse. A careful reading shows that "he" of v27 does not refer to a future Antichrist, but rather to the Messiah. Notice the phrase in v26 "the people of the prince." It is not grammatically correct to assign the singular pronoun "he" in v27 to the plural "people" in verse 26. If "he" were to refer to the “people of the prince” then the phrase should have been stated as "the prince of the people." But because Daniel writes the "people of the prince" they cannot be the proper antecedent of the pronoun “he.” The Messiah is the only one mentioned in v26 that can be the antecedent of the pronoun "he", therefore the phrase "he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week" refers to the Messiah.
Now, the following is VERY important. The Apostle Paul himself - who was an expert when it came to the Old Testament scriptures - obviously believed that CHRIST was the One who confirmed the covenant and caused the sacrifices to cease, quoting Daniel 9:27a nearly verbatim in Galatians 3:17 and Hebrews 10:2. Why would an expert of the Old Testament do that, unless it was because Christ was indeed the One who confirmed the covenant and caused the sacrifices to cease because Christ Himself was the final sacrifice? If the Apostle Paul clearly believed that Christ confirmed (strengthened) the promises of the Abrahamic covenant (cf. Galatians 3:14) per Daniel 9:27a, then so must I.
Notice the following:
Daniel 9:27, “Then he shall confirm a covenant [‘the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ’ (Gal 3:17)] with many [‘this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many’ (Matt 26:28)] ...But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering [‘For the law … can never with these same sacrifices … make those who approach perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered?’ (Heb 10:1-2)]. [] And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate. [‘when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel … then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now-and never to be equaled again (Matt 25:15,21)].”
Jesus fulfilled the first half of Daniel's 70th week. All that remains is the 1260 days, or 3.5 years, or 42 months, that we read about in Daniel and Revelation. Hope this helps!
The rapture scripture for Babylon/USA prophecy, which is mostly judgment but it does mention the rapture at the end Is 48:20” The Lord hath redeemed a servant Jacob“ Referring to verse 14 “the Lord hath loved him “. the Bride in Babylon
Trying to understand the rapture? Paul spells it out for us.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
...by our gathering together unto Him....
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
...day of Christ...
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
...that day (when we are gathered to Jesus/day of Christ)... will not arrive until the apostasy happens and the man of sin be revealed. He even warns you not to let any man deceive you in these matters.
Peace,
PTT
There’s no pre-tribulations rapture.
@@teriter5712
I agree
Peace,
PTT
@@teriter5712
Right, but
The church rapture is absolutely real
John 6 39,40,44,54,
Jesus says at the last day four times
The church rapture is after the thousand year reign
@@lungzat7690
Revelation 20 5
But the rest of the DEAD lived not again until the thousand years have finished. This is the first resurrection.
1 Corinthians 15 Paul says the resurrection of the DEAD four times before verse 52
1 Corinthians 15 52 the DEAD are raised
Jesus loves to expose prophets
Good or bad
Jesus will expose me
It only takes 70 minutes to listen to Revelation
Another point of interest. The Scriptures from Tyndale to the KJV of 1611 use the word 'departing'. Only the Bishops Bible used "falling away".
I believe in the pretribulation rapture.
Dig deeper, no pre trib rapture.
Noticed that this man has added to Revelation chapter 3, verse 10, which is a big warning in chapter 22. Whoever adds to this book the plagues will be added to him, so may God have mercy on him for saying that the rapture is implied and that the tribulation is also applied.
That’s not worth the first says that all it says he will keep you from the hour of temptation not tribulation
Therefore look at the word keep from, and it is also mentioned that Jesus prays for us to be not taken out of the world and temptation‘s and tribulations, but that God keeps us during this time so that no one will pluck us from his hand
FYI: Real Passover means Divine Providence to escape Egipt... meaning Salvation! and Is in the Month of Nissan... This month!
Let Jesus answer the question of when he will return, Jesus says this...Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
THEY SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING....WHEN?...answer--- >Immediately after the tribulation of those days
Jesus said He comes Immediately after the tribulation of those days. What days? The tribulation days
He Jesus also gathers the saints Immediately after the tribulation of those days....
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
What Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:29-31 is the same time frame of what is read in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4:13-17...1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
The above scripture also happens Immediately after the tribulation of those days
Jesus does not come again until AFTER tribulations is over!!!!! The saints are only gathered AFTER tribulations is over.
Here is the scripture that lets us all know how many times Christ comes and goes.
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
It said Jesus will appear a second time unto salvation!!!!!
Jesus said the Tribulation period will be like it was during the time of Noah.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Jesus did not take Noah to heaven to protect him from the flood. God made a way to save Noah and his family right here on earth, and that is the same thing He is going to do to protect saints from the great tribulation period. Hear the words of the Lord.... Psalms 91:1-11
Psa 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
Psa 91:2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
Psa 91:3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
Psa 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
Psa 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
Psa 91:6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
Psa 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Psa 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
Psa 91:9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
Psa 91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
Psa 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
Conclusion
The bible shows that Jesus only come two times in scripture. The first coming was to die for the sins of the world. Then the bible shows that Jesus is coming back one more time to reign on the earth for a thousand years. There is no third coming of Jesus. All those thinking God will come and take them off the earth before tribulations would be saying Jesus comes three times and not just two.
There is no scripture that shows Jesus comes to die for the sins of the word then goes to sit on the right hand of the father in haven, then return a second time to take the saints to heave to hide them from great tribulations, and then finally return a third time after tribulations and reign for a thousand years.
Its only two comings of the Jesus. Then he reigns for a thousand years and then he relinquish rule unto the FATHER forever.
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Peace in the name of Yahusha/Jesus
I hope soon😅😅😅😅
I'm having much trouble finding a pretrib rapture in scripture. The second coming is well documented. One would think there would be a least one account where it actually says the rapture is pretrib. But there is not one. Why would this be so? Perhaps it’s because the second coming and rapture happen at the same time. Not one of these passages record the rapture happen-ing before the tribulation (Matt. 13:30, John 14:1-3, 1 Cor. 15:51, 1 Thes. 2:1, 1 Thes. 4:17). Paul records the rapture happening just before the day of the Lord (2 Thes. 2:1,2), which FOLLOWS the celestial events of Joel 2:31 and the tribulation (Mt. 24:29). Doesn't this also prove the DOL can’t be a seven year period? Help me out guys:)
2 These 2: Let no one in any way deceive or entrap you, for that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first [that is, the great rebellion, the abandonment of the faith by professed Christians], and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction [the Antichrist, the one who is destined to be destroyed],
Beware the falling away from Christ and the coming AC you mean?
Those already in Christ dont fear His return / 'the end' being near.
We agree with the spirit of God, even so, sure come then Lord, come.
For now.. carry on with even greater urgency then to spread the good news of salvation to the world
The True Gospel of God is above, not below, and is not available to the general public, only the elect who have been sanctified and purified by the Spirit can read and know it. The Gospel below is for those who remain impure before God.😵💫😮☹
COMPAIR REVELATION 5:9 CHURCH TO 6:9 TRIBULATION SAINTS
Please read very very carefully what I have to say. First, what is a resurrection? it is when the dead are raised to life. Revelation makes it clear that there are only two resurrections, one at the coming of Jesus and the other at the end of His 1000 year reign on earth. As confirmed by Paul, we who are alive cannot be caught up until the dead are raised first. The dead in Christ cannot be raised until the Lord Himself descends from Heaven. Upon the Lord's return, He is to destroy the antichrist with the breath of His mouth and the brightness of His coming. If Jesus came before the antichrist, that means there must be two second comings? according to Hebrews 9:28,Jesus will appear a second time, not two second comings.
So the question is...where in Revelation does it say the dead are raised??? Revelation 11 where the two witnesses are raised to life when they hear "come up hither". This event happens at the 7th trumpet as confirmed by Paul to the Corinthians when he said "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet, the dead will be raised. Also to the Thessalonians he says "For the Lord Himself will descend from Heaven with a shout and with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first".
This is too easy folks, we were clearly instructed to not be deceived about the coming of our Lord. Jesus said "the devil will put some of you in prison for 10 days to test you, be faithful even to the point of death". Clearly this passage reveals that we will see the antichrist. Anyone who says the church will be raptured and the tribulation will fall on the Jews instead really need to question their faith. Didn't Paul say that the Gentiles are heirs with Israel? That we are grafted in and that we should not be arrogant but to be united? Paul said because we are grafted in, it is not us who supports them but it is them who supports us, they are the root and we are the branches. Therefore, in order for all Israell to be saved, the fullness of the gentiles, or church, will come in.
I remember the story of the 10 virgins : five were foolish and five were wise, so when the bridegroom delayed his coming, the foolish said to the wise give us some of your oil. the wise said no we just have enough for us, so there are foolish Christians who won't prepare for the Lord's coming because the Bible says a wicked servant saith my Lord delayed his coming
I think when Jesus told Mary not to hold on to Him because He was acceding to the Father and go tell the apostles in John, that's a picture of the Raptured. He was gone for a week and He told Mary that, then He showed up and told Thomas to check His side like Thomas had just said it and it was a week before.
And I saw another angel ascending *from the east* having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, *till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads*
{Revelation 7:2-3}
(These are already sealed with the Holy Spirit, so this is not speaking of being born again.)
“For as the lightning *cometh out of the east* and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
{Matthew 24:7}
And *the sixth angel* poured out his vial [plague] upon the great river Euphrates; and the water [support] thereof was dried up, *that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared*
(And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, *to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty*
"Behold, I come as a thief. *Blessed is he that watcheth and keepeth his garments* lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.")
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, *It is done*
{Revelation 16:12-17}
If Christ did not know how come others know.
The true crucifixion is not with nails on a tree. It is that of the Spirit of God upon the flesh, it lasts 9 years, and the true resurrection is a sudden transfiguration towards the state of Spirit while one is alive, not after death. Greetings from Prophet Moses😁
Regardless our differences in this view, I respect you as a believer and consider you my brother in Christ. But in regard to the point of discussion, all what we heard is your comment, you haven't read one single verse! Let the written Word speak to the audience directly by posting it and reading it out loud for them. Read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 and explain when does it say the rapture would be.
GOD IS GOING TO HARPAZO US AT THE LAST SECOND, SAVING US FROM ANNIHILATION SOAKING UP ALL THE PRAISE AND GLORY. THE GREAT I AM IS GOING TO SOAK & BASK IN ALL HIS GLORY AS HE IS MEETING US IN THE AIR. MEANWHILE BASKING IN HIS AWESOMENESS ALL THE MOCKERS AND SCOFFERS WILL HAVE TO PICK UP THEIR JAWS OFF THE FLOOR WHEN SEEING GODS WORK RAW AND IN THE REAL!!!!
Even when ignoring Daniel - the Jewish wedding and Isaiah 26:20 combined with John 14:1-3 are enough to prove rapture of the church. Combine with 1 Cor 15:51-53 and 1 & 2 Thess. (especially 2 Thess.2:2-5 where rapture was expected and a message had the believers in a panic because they were supposedly already in the tribulation and had 'missed' the promised and expected rapture!
As I see it, the "day and hour" is the second coming (Mt. 24:36) and includes the rapture after the celestial events of Joel 2:31 and the tribulation (Mt. 24:29). This would mean that the rapture will be imminent AFTER these things. The church will SEE Jesus coming on the clouds which means she must be on the earth at this time. Jesus said, "When you see THESE THINGS, look up for your redemption (rapture) is near (Luke 21:28). THESE THINGS are the events Luke records in 21: 25-27
This is a dramatic confirmation of the truth of the pre-trib harpazo, since this church - taught by none other than the Apostle Paul - fully expected the rapture before the tribulation began.
The description of the pre-tribulation rapture is a sad one, while all of the Joshua and Caleb minded man of God, our preaching like the two witnesses, the fire from heaven, and overcoming by the blood of the lamb, the word of their testimony, and they don’t love their life unto death, because revelation, chapter 7 verse 13 proves that the saints are a target during the great tribulation and Matthew chapter 24, verse 29 through 31 proves immediately after the great tribulation is the time of the rapture
John, chapter 6:39, 40, 44, 54 prove that the dead in Christ will rise on the last day, and we which remain will be caught up in the air on the last day
Better stock up on birth control, the ac thugs are randy felows! They like men too! Enjoy
In Matthew 24, Jesus explains that the abomination of desolation marks the beginning of the tribulation. He gives His disciples instructions for life during that time. If His disciples are already gone, that instruction is not necessary. He also says that the days of the tribulation are shortened for the elect's sake. If the elect are already gone, shortening those days wouldn't be for their sake.
During that entire speech Jesus never mentions any kind of gathering, harvest or snatching away until verses 29-31.
Matthew 24:29-31 says AFTER the tribulation, the elect are gathered.
Believers are called the elect in Romans, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, 1 John and 2 John.
The feast of Yom Teruah is 'the feast of trumpets.' It is the only feast that occurs on the first day of the month. The sighting of the new moon is required to mark the beginning of the month. The lunar cycle is 29.5 days, so the first of the month could not be accurately predicted. That feast is the 'day that know man knows the day or hour.'
The last trumpet blast on that day, at sundown, will be the Harvest. There will be a 2-week preparation for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, which begins on the 15th, and lasts for 7 days. During this time, the bowls of wrath are poured out on the beast and his followers. The 8th day of the feast is 'the Last Great Day.' (John 7:37) That is when those that attended the Marriage Supper accompany Jesus back to the earth to destroy the beast and set up the millennial kingdom. The Harvest is on the 1st. The return is on the 23rd.
The purpose of the Feasts of YHVH is to explain the ministry of the Messiah. On His first visit, Jesus fulfilled the Spring Feasts. Upon His return, He will fulfill the Fall Feasts. Those feasts were given to us to explain how to know the true Messiah. John 5:46, Luke 24:44, Romans 15:4
There is no pre-tribulation rapture.
Yes, good friend of our Creator, correct on most you declare. Then how could there be a rapture also. It is because the issue should never have been when is the harpazo, (rapture), but instead what is the harpazo. The harpazo is as Jesus taught, when he spoke of John the Baptist. Jesus said John came preaching repent for the kingdom of heaven was at hand. Jesus said the kingdom suffereth (ie allows) violence, and the violent take it (harpazo) by force. Meaning after the day of Pentecost those early apostles and disciples, took on all of the enemy strongholds and destroyed them all as they operated in ressurection power. Part of this power was the transforming and translocating power, of which Elijah operated in during his ministry. This is why John was equated to Elijah, John baptised Jesus in to full dunamis ressurection power when he baptised Jesus. John knew that is what he was baptising Jesus for at his baptism, is why John said, no I need your baptism instead. Harpazo is how Jesus "passed through" the angry mob of religious leaders, that sought to kill him. The text says they whist not where he went. Harpazo is how Jesus walked on water, it is how he translocated across the sea before his disciples. It is how most of the book of Acts revealed the manner of works that were performed. Reread Acts chapter 8, knowing the angel of the Lord, appeared to Philip and commanded him to "arise" and go. Philip was translocated to the Ethiopian eunuch treasurer to queen Candace and taught him from Isaiah about Christ's ressurection. From Acts8:39 And coming up out of the water the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip and he was no more seen by the Ethiopian treasurer. The word here for caught away is Harpazo. Philip was translocated from right before the eyes of this newly baptised Ethiopian. The very next verse, vs40 But Philip was "found" at Azotus, where he went and preached throughout the cities unto Caesarea. Azotus would have been several miles straight north of where he had just baptised this treasurer to the queen of Ethiopia. This is why Ethiopia was the very first place the church would find protection, early on. Acts tells us of a very early on experience of harpazo involving Peter. It says the angel of the Lord, appeared to Peter in Herod's prison, and command again with that word "arise" gird youself and come with me. The angel translocated Peter through the prison walls out on to the street. We know this was early in this beginning harpazo work of the early church, because it says he thought it was a dream. Paul and Silas were removed from the temple jail in the same manner and returned back in the temple preaching. The religous leaders sent runners to the jail and found the jail door was still locked with two gaurds standing outside the door but no Paul or Silas therein. The thief in the night is analogous to this harpazo work, which will return as the latter rain of Shekina clouds of glory again returning to work the same ressurection miracles during the coming great tribulation. Thos elected will be awakened by an angel and commanded "arise" dress and come with me. The recipients of these visits all around the world will see a person glowing accompanied by an angel. When the person speaks the recipients will hear in their own language just like those devout gathered from many different languages on the day of Pentecost. It says each one heard those in the upper room glorifying God each in their own language. This is the fulfillment of the prophesy of Zephaniah where it declares when the Lord brings his kingdom to the earth he will provide a pure tongue. This pure tongue is the reverse of the confusion of tongues brought upon those at the tower of Babel when Nimrod had planned to build a tower in to heaven. This is the work of the Revelation 144 thousands (plural not singular thousand in the manuscripts). 144 is the number of all the redeemed of God. Is the number 12 raised in power, such as 12 squared. So you are correct none shall escape this coming trial that shall befall all of mankind. But, you may believe and request you be one of those who soon will be again storming against the gates of hell, and it will not prevail now any more than it did in that first operation of dunamis ressurection power. FEAR NOT
@@paulgibson359 With all due respect, this is a string of phrases with literally no relevance to what I posted.