Skylake X i9 Delid & Liquid Metal Application Tutorial

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  • čas přidán 26. 09. 2017
  • This tutorial shows how to apply liquid metal & delid the Intel i9 CPUs (7900X, 7960X, 7980XE) using the Delid DieMate X & Conductonaut.
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před 6 lety +52

    Thanks to Der8auer for the guidance! Here is the article, for those who prefer it: www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3068-how-to-delid-intel-i9-cpu-and-apply-liquid-metal
    You might also like our 7980XE & 7960X review & delidded thermals: czcams.com/video/gz9HBVh57T8/video.html

    • @rin6521
      @rin6521 Před 6 lety

      I always clean off the substrate and the IHS and reseal it with automotive RTV silicone, you can use the socket clamp to hold it in place while the silicone cures, just make sure to compensate for the slight lateral movement of the IHS when engaging the socket lever. Also, if liquid metal makes you nervous, Thermal Grizzly's Kryonaut TIM works exceptionally well and achieves virtually identical results(it's also much more forgiving with respect to application).

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před 6 lety +2

      Yeah, said that about the excess LM already. That's why we talked about shorting caps so much. You can remove super glue with an acetate.

    • @TheTanelChannel
      @TheTanelChannel Před 6 lety

      Hey quick question... I am about to do the same here but why didn´t you use tape to cover the transistors off so there will never be any problems of the two contacting themselves? Like a few strips of tape on all sides of the CPU core to cover the resistors.

    • @TB-zm3zc
      @TB-zm3zc Před 6 lety

      *Gamers Nexus* Thank you for the useful tutorial. Will you be using any of the de-lidded processors regularly and/or do you have any long-term stability & performance testing planned on this topic? I'm interested to see if this modification is viable as more than just a tool for overclockers and PC hobbyists. On a related note, have you (or any one you know) every tried to DIY solder and IHS? That would be a cool feasibility experiment. Obviously that would be one of those "do not try this at home" situations.

    • @martins7194
      @martins7194 Před 6 lety

      +Gamers Nexus How are current cpu's with respect to IHS' "needing" to be lapped?
      I've lapped my Q9550 (obviously i'm in dire need for an upgrade. Afaik the LGA775 cpu's were especially bad when it came to "IHS flatness"), and for me it certainly lowered my temps by about 4-5°C, but more importantly, brought all 4 cores are within ~5°C of each other across the whole temp range.
      I was curious how todays CPUs hold up. :)

  • @peterelliott2914
    @peterelliott2914 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I know this vid is 5 years old but I used it to delid my 7900X 5 years ago (for some reason the vid popped up on my feed again today. After 5 years lol). My CPU has run perfectly for 5 years, no re-delidding and no further work involved. Temps have been stable and exactly the same for 5 years. I also used liquid metal between the CPU and the EK block and haven't even taken that off for the 5 years. Still perfect, still rendering houses on a decent overclock (5.7 all cores) and saving me heaps of time. So thanks! Last week I made a new system with a 13600k to replace it so watching this again took me right back to the good old days of having to work to get decent performance. Now I can get a 3rd tier CPU and not mess with it at all. I sort of miss the pain which makes the gain more cherished. But that's getting too deep so I'll finish the comment here. Thanks again and I love that your Mandarin is so perfect. Cheers from New Zealand.

    • @screamingeagle7655
      @screamingeagle7655 Před 3 měsíci

      Is anything where you use LM on in contact with something by copper?? AFAIK you either need to cure the copper or reapply it after about a month, after that you can use it for a couple of years.

  • @2000cobraguy
    @2000cobraguy Před 6 lety +38

    If re-lidding with silicone,
    I would suggest a type/brand called "Ultra Black".
    This can be found at any auto parts store.
    The reason for the "Ultra" in its name,
    is due to it being Oxygen sensor safe.
    Regular (Non-Ultra) silicone on a fuel injected vehicle can ruin the oxygen sensors.
    The reason I bring this up is, if, when heated, the regular silicone emits fumes
    which can damage a sensitive electronic measuring device,
    this may also relate to a high heat situation on a CPU.
    The "Ultra Black" will not emit fumes which can damage electronics.
    Install the Ultra Black with a toothpick.

    • @righteousone8454
      @righteousone8454 Před 5 lety +3

      Funny, I actually found the correct type then a while back. This is the one:
      Permatex 82180 Ultra Black Maximum Oil Resistance RTV Silicone Gasket Maker, 3.35 oz. Tube
      I delidded 2 cpus with it, and it looks EXACTLY like original Intel seal material

    • @motoboq9606
      @motoboq9606 Před 2 lety +1

      you sir are 1000000% right ;) im a mechanic and when we need to seal places/joints where there are o2 sensors, Map/Maf sensors we always use ultra black in fact its the only one we use for everything now less issues with it, it can take heat better and doesnt degrade as much. basically its strong enough to even close medium pressure water leaks upto 110psi dont ask me how i know that.. but i do

  • @Gogargoat
    @Gogargoat Před 6 lety +3

    I noticed while spreading it that it can sometimes be easy to uncover a piece of the die again. Maybe I didn't clean the die properly and get all the oils off or something, but what helps is to press a bit harder on the qtip, to really get it to bond with the surfaces. Then once I have a thin film, i collect the small excess amount into the center to lower the chance of air bubbles being trapped.

  • @vimzim8576
    @vimzim8576 Před 5 lety +4

    Pro tip from Buildzoid is to squeeze a small amount of liquid metal onto the Q-tip rather than onto the CPU directly, you apply pressure with the Q-tip to the nozzle which will prevent the liquid metal from gushing out.

  • @wilkinru
    @wilkinru Před 6 lety +3

    I delidded my 7700k and I learned something from this video. Well done!

  • @Mkilbride2599
    @Mkilbride2599 Před 6 lety

    Great video showing the application of LM. Getting some for my 8700K delidd and yours realyl shows how to spread it well.

  • @thedillestpickle
    @thedillestpickle Před 6 lety +6

    It might help to warm up the CPU before applying the liquid metal. I noticed in a linus tech video that he was surprised how well the liquid metal spread out after he had heated up the motherboard to dry out a coolant spill.

  • @videocardzrule354
    @videocardzrule354 Před 3 lety

    I’m delidding my 7980XE this weekend. I plan to clean all of the old residue off, and reseal the CPU. I am going to do this the right way, the very first try. I’ve delidded quite a few CPU’s in the past. But never something this large with so many small SMD’s I’m very thankful we have Gamer Nexus and his helpful video here. The tips are very helpful, even for experienced PC enthusiast like my self. I definitely do not want to burn out my brand new 7980XE. But, I really want the low temperatures for long term daily usage out of my $1,000 dollar processor!

  • @JordieG8
    @JordieG8 Před 4 lety +2

    I would definitely recommend applying your coating before liquid metal. But the actual liquid metal application was well done. I like how you showed what too much looks like. A word of caution when using nail polish, is I found some brands don't like to stick to the substrate very well and will peal a short time after application.

  • @qlum
    @qlum Před 6 lety

    I like your usage of pci covers, I always use those breakaway covers to open boxes and such as they are sharp enough to cut through tape and I always happen to have a few laying around.

  • @eganzale
    @eganzale Před 6 lety

    Hey man, your channel is actually really good, you make some good videos. I hope your channel grows you deserve more views and subs!

  • @Liatin1
    @Liatin1 Před 6 lety +159

    $1000 or more folks! And you get to void your warranty as a bonus.

    • @randomdudewalkingdownthest8158
      @randomdudewalkingdownthest8158 Před 6 lety +16

      Liatin1 & a chance to kill your cpu & no ecc ram & less pcie

    • @madfinntech
      @madfinntech Před 6 lety +3

      Like you actually have to do this.

    • @anthonypedersen1555
      @anthonypedersen1555 Před 6 lety +9

      ...if you are going to run it at any frequency other than stock, pretty much you do.

    • @sucknfuckmanager163
      @sucknfuckmanager163 Před 6 lety +5

      You void your warranty just by over clock

    • @dullgamingtv1255
      @dullgamingtv1255 Před 5 lety +1

      @@sucknfuckmanager163 wrong u can have a cpu like the new i5 9600k thats goes up to 4.6Ghz in turbo mode thats means it will not get out of warranty but u will need to get a good heat dissipator if u want some decent stable thermals

  • @cdoublejj
    @cdoublejj Před 5 lety

    great info as always, i think i've been over applying/proportioning and probably wouldn't have know any better if it wasn't for this video!

  • @obzen33
    @obzen33 Před 6 lety

    I delidded my 6700k and it was super easy. I used a different delid tool but it worked great. I used clear scotch tape to cover the pcb so no liquid metal would run over. I used a tiny brush that was included with the kit but i cut the tip of the brush to prevent the liquid metal from slinging around. I got a 16c drop in load temps.

  • @nathanrwin
    @nathanrwin Před 6 lety

    Great content, thanks GN. This was really informative

  • @MrDry2009
    @MrDry2009 Před 6 lety +1

    this was a VERY informative video. well done.

  • @maxcypond
    @maxcypond Před 6 lety

    Really helpful advice and pictures. Thanks

  • @Bozxeh
    @Bozxeh Před rokem

    Thank you, very thorough explanation. Kudos.

  • @soapa4279
    @soapa4279 Před 6 lety

    Man super thanks for this video, im waiting for my 7900x and plan to delid it

  • @RovianGameplays
    @RovianGameplays Před 6 lety +3

    Thanks Steve, such a great tutorial that I unfortunately don't have the balls to do myself, so instead I just bought my delided 7900x from silicone lottery, oh and Der8auer is such a master. :)

  • @CallumCampbell
    @CallumCampbell Před 6 lety

    This is really satisfying to watch

  • @TheQuikMix
    @TheQuikMix Před 6 lety +199

    Like, SERIOUSLY, Intel? Look what they make you do...

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken Před 6 lety +3

      Gone for AMD Threadripper. There you have other problems. :/ 50 seconds POST, thermal issues although it's soldered. Needs just optimization in the BIOS settings but oh boy, it's really frustrating. :C Still better than delidding, though.

    • @madfinntech
      @madfinntech Před 6 lety +2

      Like they actually make you do this. Just get a proper cooling.

    • @TheQuikMix
      @TheQuikMix Před 6 lety +1

      well not me. I bought a Ryzen chip

    • @TB-zm3zc
      @TB-zm3zc Před 6 lety +4

      I'll side with anyone who argues that Intel should be using the most optimum solutions available when manufacturing it's $2,000 chips. However, the 'TIM vs solder' narrative has devolved into the ridiculous insinuation that Intel's current process is somehow insufficient from a functional standpoint. That is grade-A internet echo chamber bullshit. The reality is this is a chip that can be overclocked out-of-the-box to AT LEAST 4.1GHz across 18 processing cores with an AIO cooler while remaining under maximum operating temperature. I say "at least" because a lot of folks are seeing higher overclocks than that with similar AIO cooling solutions (up to 4.6 GHz stable). That sounds pretty damn sufficient to me.

    • @LETHALF90
      @LETHALF90 Před 6 lety

      Kyôdai Ken how is it now?

  • @jamesji3869
    @jamesji3869 Před 4 lety

    Nice tutorial, I may try this.

  • @tyrantworm7392
    @tyrantworm7392 Před 6 lety

    Good to see you've comms with VSG m8, I wasn't aware you knew of him when I suggested this in your foray into watercooling. The two of you have a similar (scientific as you can make it) approach to your testing.

  • @StandingCow2
    @StandingCow2 Před 6 lety

    I did this on my 6700k a few months ago, it wasn't difficult you just have to be really careful. I used scotch tape to keep from having any spillage of the liquid metal...but the nail polish trick was cool, didn't know about that.

  • @elitose
    @elitose Před 6 lety +8

    I use a thin guitar pick for scraping adhesive or prying an IHS. Safer than a razor blade.

    • @FPSKrieger
      @FPSKrieger Před 3 lety

      That's great to know! Thanks for sharing!!

    • @-PVL93-
      @-PVL93- Před 2 lety

      That's metal

  • @bradclapp4022
    @bradclapp4022 Před 6 lety +23

    What's pathetic is how much these CPUs cost and Intel used thermal paste instead of soldering the IHS on... Der8auer proved when he delided a ryzen CPU that when a IHS is soldered on the thermal transfer is much better and deliding is pointless and doesn't need to be done.

  • @MikeDaveYapOfficial
    @MikeDaveYapOfficial Před rokem

    Stephen: not the most experience doing this delid and liquid metal
    Me: You've guided us perfectly fine!

  • @1.0xY.m0r0n
    @1.0xY.m0r0n Před 6 lety +8

    Gamers Nexus I've been subbed for a while now and have to say your videos are so good! Easily my favorite tech channel! No bias or bullshit! Just here's the facts and do what you will with them! Keep it up! You deserve way more subs! I know this tutorial is going to help a lot of people delidding or working with liquid metal for the first time because it can be nerve wracking.
    Also I'll never understand why people fanboy over companies, I see all the Intel haters below... I have a delidded 7900X with an nVidia GPU and I love it but that doesn't mean I hate all things AMD. Threadripper and Ryzen are so awesome! I hope they roll out some awesome GPU's soon too! Vega was a little lackluster... I don't care who is on top in the market as long as there's good competition! Why does it have to be one or the other? It's not like they care about us they just want our money! I'm just a big enthusiast when it comes to PC's and I want all the snobbery to end!!! We are all in the PCMR whether you're on a pentium or 1950X I still love your system either way!

  • @VGDocs
    @VGDocs Před 6 lety +53

    On one hand - Intel screwed up and videos like this shouldn't be necessary.
    On the other hand - I get to watch a 16m video by Gamers Nexus of a concept that I REALLY like. :P

    • @TheBanjoShowOfficial
      @TheBanjoShowOfficial Před rokem

      on the other hand, it was really fun and i felt something from the adrenaline

  • @yelloworange7694
    @yelloworange7694 Před 4 lety

    I terrible like that processors.Its amazing how fast and overpowered it is.I hope someday i get one in my hands.

  • @FutaNoKami
    @FutaNoKami Před 5 lety

    since i was quite sketched out i used a conformal coating thats quite resistant against heat, moisture etc to protect any liquid metal spillage i have had 0 problems and a peace of mind. The coating isnt expensive and imo a must and no brainer.it doesnt intervere with the dye or lid the conformal coating is a few nm thick. be sure the conformal coating has the right propperties though. resistand against solvents, moisture, heat since you probably use alcohol etc to clean the cpu. I sorta didnt wanna use nail pollish since in my experience it cracked under heat i once used it as a coating on a wifi modem dont ask why lol. and with this my bs is over. ps since it was a LGA chip i used temp resistent silicon glue to reattach the lid and 2 flat plastic blocks with moderate clamp force with a cutout on the plastic for the resistors etc. hope this helps

  • @TheBanjoShowOfficial
    @TheBanjoShowOfficial Před rokem

    Watching this video scares me and I've already done this to my equipment lol, the diy expansion slot cover razor really was the cherry on top lmao

  • @jefferywdonald
    @jefferywdonald Před 6 lety

    I bought this copper IHS from rockit cool. I took it one step further and sanded the ihs starting with 1000 grit and working my way to 3000 grit by intervals of 500. Got the 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, and 3000 grit sandpaper off eBay for about $10. Only took me about an hour from start to finish. Pics can be found here.

  • @DerJoshbert
    @DerJoshbert Před 6 lety

    Good hint with the nail polish!

  • @maxfacts1
    @maxfacts1 Před 6 lety

    Thanks GN for this informative Video showing gamers how to get the most OCing headroom from their Intel Skylake X i9, using Der8auer deliding tool makes it much easier but it's still a bit of a gamble for first timers. At stock we get about a 4.4/4.7 GHz Stable OC with a good cooler and that's all we recommend, but for those who want max OC this video is a must. Intel needs to up their OCing headroom game on their K CPUs with a better TIM/LM/Solder solution, but again OCers who want to delid need to watch this guide before FUBARing their expensive CPU.
    I'm looking forward to seeing what Coffee Lake's max stock OCing GHz vs Delidding is, GN will be my go to for OCing Coffee Lake Facts.

  • @Ketjow
    @Ketjow Před 6 lety

    Very informative video ^^! If you use small ammount's of LM like here, it looks kinda stable and unable to spill imo (I hope so, I'm trying to do the same on my Alien 17R4 xD).

  • @crhodes0302
    @crhodes0302 Před 6 lety +2

    great video! When u put the CPU back in the motherboard do you place normal thermal paste on top of the CPU before putting on the monoblock/ AIO ??? or do you use the same liquid metal???

  • @mixchief
    @mixchief Před 6 lety +3

    @Gamers Nexus: Do you have any recommendation for nail polish product/SKU? I'm a bit worried not to buy the wrong type, if any.

  • @YeCannyDaeThat
    @YeCannyDaeThat Před 6 lety +7

    Couple of questions. Will the liquid metal attack the nail polish over time? And how long will the nail polish last subjected to heating cycles? P.S great video and tutorial as ever. I'm eyeing up Coffee Lake and maybe this will still be the best option.

    • @obsoquasi
      @obsoquasi Před 6 lety +1

      I was thinking the same thing. What if due to continuous heat, the nail polish film cracks and LM gets in between. Maybe there's another chemical agent that's better suited.

    • @backupplan6058
      @backupplan6058 Před 6 lety +5

      May want to look into conformal coatings, been used to protect circuit boards for years and can be sprayed or brushed on with many different types. You can protect sections you want to apply liquid metal to with tape then spray over. You can even use it to help protect motherboards and components in the event of a liquid cooling leak as long as you are careful what you use it on, don’t want it in your sockets.
      Slight disclaimer, it tends to be UV reactive which can be great for seeing if you have missed a spot but may not be the look you want if you use UV LED lights in your rig. That’s unless you really like absolutely everything glowing even your motherboard.

  • @iliagofman
    @iliagofman Před 6 lety +1

    Hi thanks. Why not spread LM over more area of the lid than the die?
    I spread mine a bit further and my temps are good but I wonder if more exact area LM coverage of die to lid would have better temps.

  • @aceman2206
    @aceman2206 Před 6 lety

    good work guys

  • @saliwanpl1832
    @saliwanpl1832 Před rokem +1

    All ppls give to much liquid metal. You have perfect solution.

  • @peterbiltmark4221
    @peterbiltmark4221 Před 6 lety

    Thank you!

  • @bolijaker1
    @bolijaker1 Před 5 lety

    hola buen video. una pregunta cuanod le esta hacienod delidd y ya has puesto el componetes liquido , al rededor que le pones . del nucleo

  • @Rocket33r
    @Rocket33r Před 5 lety +1

    Any thoughts on how long to let the nail polish dry for? My understanding is that it's highly flammable in it's liquid state and only get's less flammable as the acetate dries out. I read that it takes 24 hours for nail polish to fully dru.

  • @halistinejenkins5289
    @halistinejenkins5289 Před 6 lety

    i appreciate your efforts here after watching it a few times. i still don't have plans to do it. i can't see needing to delid an i5 or i7 unless you're running a gtx1080ti or more than one of them. this is considering that one is just gaming.

    • @Froggyboy7
      @Froggyboy7 Před 6 lety

      i mean its more for people wanting to get the most out of their hardware. overclocking and such.

    • @halistinejenkins5289
      @halistinejenkins5289 Před 6 lety

      i overclock all my k chips, but my idea of stable is a lot different than running cinebench a few times which i know that gamer's nexus goes further than that. i use Noctua air coolers and am really just a few degrees off from the mainstream AIO's, but i max my OC to where the cpu temp will max about 74-78 degrees under prime95 load for about 48hrs or so. i don't feel that 80 degrees and above is good for the chip. i have made a rule for myself that this is the chips' limit.
      i'm just talking about from a pure gaming machine point of view. i don't think you should go to these measures unless your cpu is holding the gpu back. a core i5 7600k is really the not weak point until you start getting into gtx1070 territory and the i7 variant will handle up to a gtx 1080ti and beyond possibly. maybe in the future when the chip is old and you can't upgrade i can see it, but i would probably still just upgrade my platform. you also have to think about the price of the liquid metal, a "proper" delidding tool, the warranty, and the risk of damaging the chip which will make it non returnable and non salable. i haven't seen any info on how long this liquid metal is good for or if it dries out and when.

  • @avikbellic911
    @avikbellic911 Před 6 lety +53

    $1000+ CPU and intel uses $5 thermal compound? wut in the heck.....

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 Před 4 lety

    I had someone delid my 7900X a while ago, and just did replacement TIM, but now I need to apply LM... God am I terrified. But I have liquid electrical tape, which one of my enthusiast overclocking buddies recommended, so hopefully everything will be alright...

  • @obsoquasi
    @obsoquasi Před 6 lety

    apart from the risk of messing it up, what are the drawbacks of using LM? In another video you mentioned that it has to be replaced, if I remember right. Do you know how often it needs to be replaced when it's in a fully productive workstation running at full power most of the day?

  • @BixN00dI488
    @BixN00dI488 Před 6 lety

    Liquid electrical tape instead of nail polish,works very well! Happy delidding!

  • @GurtTarctor
    @GurtTarctor Před 6 lety +61

    What about high end TIM vs liquid metal vs the stock TIM?

    • @elijah_9392
      @elijah_9392 Před 6 lety +1

      GurtTarctor
      Good point

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před 6 lety +75

      Already running these tests!

    • @XxViciousxX
      @XxViciousxX Před 6 lety +12

      I already know the answer if you’re not going to use liquid metal then don’t bother deliding. High end paste might net you a max of 5c over the stock TIM. Liquid metal is 20-25c cooler.

    • @GurtTarctor
      @GurtTarctor Před 6 lety +1

      Oh sweet, apologies if you mentioned that and I missed it.

    • @rin6521
      @rin6521 Před 6 lety +5

      In my experience LM isn't worth it when there are premium TIMs on the market like Kryonaut that achieve virtually the same results. I used Kryonaut on my last 7700k de-lid and reduced temps by the same 20ish degrees that LM does. Obviously LM will perform slightly better, but for most use cases high quality TIM is the better choice I think, especially considering the risks involved with LM and it's tendency to "flow" if over-applied.. I'm really interested in the results of GN's testing on this to see if they confirm my experience.

  • @KalebQi
    @KalebQi Před 6 lety +1

    Still waiting to find out brand recommendations for the nail polish

  • @ishimarumasaki1998
    @ishimarumasaki1998 Před 4 lety

    good job

  • @iSmoker57
    @iSmoker57 Před 6 lety +3

    Would you try Liquid Metal on a GPU? I think it would be nice to have you guys test it out, since you are so thorough.

    • @Arfaer
      @Arfaer Před 6 lety

      I did it on two 290 and AC Accelero III. I used Coollaboratory Liquid Pro, and it gave me about 10c less on the top card than MX-5. Bottom card didn't change much.

    • @videocardzrule354
      @videocardzrule354 Před 3 lety

      It works great on a GPU. Same co concept! Same function! Make sure your GPU has a copper contact plate on it’s cooler!

  • @jonathanbyrd12
    @jonathanbyrd12 Před 2 lety

    So my only question is after you delid and put on the stuff and put it back together do you still need like thermal paste between the cpu and AIO? you would right? cus that is were the heat is being dissipated?

  • @markvonmiller4702
    @markvonmiller4702 Před rokem

    Hi Steve, have you ever heard of Boron Nitride? I heard that ROG Phone 6 has that as a thermal compound, also its somewhat cheap too. Just curious anyway

  • @IgnoranceBegetsConfidence

    when you delid and using Liquid metal, can you use none conductive thermal paste to (Noctua NT-HT) to cover up any capacitors/transistors next to the Die? instead of nail polish. Any Pro's - Con's to this?

  • @JitHster
    @JitHster Před 6 měsíci

    Is there a cure time after you put on the liquid metal? I mean if the temperatures doesn't seem better at first ?

  • @MrNickelbacker
    @MrNickelbacker Před 6 lety

    Could you mabe do a comparison of different liquid metal? E.g. thermal grizzly conductonaut vs coollaboratory liquid ultra/pro? Because there isn't much coverage of that on youtube.

  • @fiendlordmagus9330
    @fiendlordmagus9330 Před 4 lety

    what nail polish did you use for this? i can't find anyone giving a specific product to purchase other than clear nail polish, would you maybe have an amazon link to a polish that would work for this or the one used in this video?

  • @GordonFreeman57
    @GordonFreeman57 Před 6 lety

    I remember back in the day everyone said when you wanted a heater you should get a
    AMD FX-9590 and 4 GTX 480s, but now it is like everyone who wants a space heater should get a i9-7980XE and 4 RX Vega 64s. :)

  • @juno1597
    @juno1597 Před 6 lety

    So a nitrocellulose finger nail polish should be ok to use on the VRM's of a 4770k correct?

  • @sheeepman9580
    @sheeepman9580 Před 6 lety

    Not sure if this is a stupid question but could you use solder to attach the IHS in a similar manor to how previous CPUs have had? Or would the heat just kill the CPU?

  • @Deathmoths
    @Deathmoths Před 6 lety +2

    is this a one time thing, or do I have to change the LM from time to time? if yes... I'll live with the basic TIM, because screw doing all this shady shit, I ain't a reviewer with 12 CPUs hanging around that I didn't pay for. but still. thanks for the info GN, great video.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Před 3 lety

      If you do use paste you'll have to use something like gelid extreme. It's good for long term stability on cpu dies. I can't remember the name of the prolimatech stuff, but they make stuff that's good for direct die applications as well.

  • @jorgevazquez7950
    @jorgevazquez7950 Před 2 lety

    Can you put electric black tape on the barriers of a laptop cpu to protect the LM from spilling onto the cpu capacitors?

  • @chuuko7294
    @chuuko7294 Před 6 lety

    Going to delid my 8700k, does everything in this video apply to the 8700k or not because there's a lot more stuff on the PCB of the Skylake x CPUs Wich could provide more issue with hitting those parts

  • @fancentollito
    @fancentollito Před 5 lety

    otra pregunta al ihs no le hechaste metal lilqudo , gracias

  • @SSJChar
    @SSJChar Před 6 lety

    is there a way for you guys to solder the ihs on, to simulate what it maaay be like if intel went back to soldering? perhaps on a kabylake processor

  • @AZ007914
    @AZ007914 Před 6 lety

    Deliding my I7 7800X within a week. The tools are on its way to Norway from US. Rockit 99.

  • @mlentsch
    @mlentsch Před 6 lety

    Rubes, how about some "gun" patches and cleaning swabs? You don't want cellulose fibers mixed in with your "liquid metal" or paste, do you?

  • @raymanovich3254
    @raymanovich3254 Před 3 lety

    How much liquid metal would you need in total for applying both underneath and on top of the IHS? Would a single tube of 1gr be enough or should one get more to be safe?

    • @ChrisGR93_TxS
      @ChrisGR93_TxS Před 3 lety +1

      lap the ihs* if you don't you ain't gonna see full liquid metal performance...Go direct die and use Kryonaut if you're not comfortable applying liquid metal. If you want liquid metal then use some nail polish, or if you don't know what nail polish you should use just pvc electrical tape to cover the smd capacitors around the die.(that's what i did. just let the die exposed)* Apply 2 drops on the die, spread it equally and place the ihs. don't squeeze it! just enough to see where the liquid metal leaves a mark on the other side of the ihs to applyat the same size. Then apply on the ihs one drop and spread it. you don't need a pool on the ihs. if its running on the sides when you turn it then its too much. scoop it towards the center of the die more and be careful not to move it when the ihs is in place. once the ihs is in place and you lift it just a bit you need to re-do it. good luck

  • @peterm.7497
    @peterm.7497 Před 5 lety +1

    This mandetory for 8700K -- thanks. Why not apply "nail polish" prior to liquid metal?

  • @royleestoves
    @royleestoves Před 6 lety

    Can you advise on the reseal.. do you think a clamp will surfice? Sounds as dodgy as the initial d-lid :|

  • @Tsiikki
    @Tsiikki Před 6 lety +1

    I prefer cellphone tools with deliddin and cleaning. its perfectly safe to use plastic to scrape off old sealant. Just be careful. I recommend to wear vinyl disposable gloves and *DON'T* use finger to speard LM or TIM. Also I wouldn't use any other "solvent" than IPA.

  • @TheSilviu8x
    @TheSilviu8x Před 6 lety +37

    This tool should be used to squeeze the balls of the one who decided not to solder the cpus..

  • @xen6233
    @xen6233 Před 4 lety

    One question i have Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut & Conductonaut at home and you on GN to,
    so asked myself why you didn´t use kryonaut around the die as isolation and not the clear nail polish and conductonaut on the die ?
    i know the video is old but hope somebody can reply

  • @ksiyaskid
    @ksiyaskid Před 4 lety

    Never gunna try this, but nice tutorial.

    • @ravenwda007
      @ravenwda007 Před 4 lety

      Have professionals do it for you.

  • @Krautmaster86
    @Krautmaster86 Před 6 lety

    Once applied, will u glue the IHS back on how how it holds?

  • @alexb5275
    @alexb5275 Před 6 lety

    What about using liquid metal on a water block, instead of thermal compound?

  • @fr0sty1998
    @fr0sty1998 Před 3 lety

    I applied a bit to much but i tryed using cotton swab to transfer it on IHS and i applied very small amount on IHS so i guess i should be fine??

  • @joshygaminghub7428
    @joshygaminghub7428 Před 27 dny

    is there a universal cpu delidding tool for both intel and amd? and also where can i buy a complete set?

  • @rudyossanchez
    @rudyossanchez Před 6 lety

    Thank you for the videos, can we please get more snowflake content

  • @ax9633
    @ax9633 Před rokem

    is it safe to apply liquid metal on any cpu or does it have to be specific ones

  • @droknron
    @droknron Před 6 lety

    Question: How often do you need to change the liquid metal once you've applied it? - Some people online are saying it's only good for 1-2 years in a system.

    • @Relaxing137
      @Relaxing137 Před 4 lety

      People say that but I think it normally shouldnt need a change but you will see with the performance drop if it happen, the truth is that its so much worth it that even tho youd need to replace it after 2 years, it just doesnt matter in the end

  • @JakeTheBear1
    @JakeTheBear1 Před 6 lety +1

    Quick question. Is it possible to just directly attach the chip to a heatsink/cooler?

    • @xDownSetx
      @xDownSetx Před 5 lety

      I believe that was caused by some heatsinks using too high of a mounting force when Intel switched to a thinner substrate. I never reglued my 6700k and it didn't have an issue with warping.

  • @dekyed
    @dekyed Před 2 lety

    I love watching Liquid metal applications. However, I would never dare try to do it myself.

  • @admiralmyxtar3702
    @admiralmyxtar3702 Před 6 lety +26

    Isn't it better to apply nail polish immediately after deliding, before applying liquid metal?

    • @tclemens96
      @tclemens96 Před 6 lety +6

      AdmiralMyxtaR yes yes it is

    • @frantiseksram9741
      @frantiseksram9741 Před 6 lety +5

      In theory, the CPU is not having any electricity running through it, so even if you have an accident, you can just clean it without any damage. But why not to protect first.

    • @megapro125
      @megapro125 Před 6 lety +2

      If you watch closely you see Steve actually applied the nail polish twice (probably to be on the safe side) once before he fully spread the liquid metal to the corners of the CPU (10:20) and a second time after he finished spreading the LM (16:00).

    • @frantiseksram9741
      @frantiseksram9741 Před 6 lety

      Except he did 4 chips in total, so could be any of those.

    • @megapro125
      @megapro125 Před 6 lety

      could be. I don't know how he cut the video, do you?

  • @barajasworld7029
    @barajasworld7029 Před 6 lety

    thinking about doing this to my 3570k which kit will work for this cpu?

  • @creepyloner1979
    @creepyloner1979 Před 6 lety

    small design flaw, the pivot point of the lever could be changed so that the bolt has to push against it from the other side, meaning the head of the bolt wouldn't be next to anything and could have a permanent crank arm rather than messing around with a fiddly allen key.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 lety

      Actually the cap screw being in a poor location could be considered a design feature. As it may keep some real boneheads from over cranking the mechanism.

  • @kevinw5701
    @kevinw5701 Před 5 lety

    What nail polish should i use

  • @Mike_Hogsheart
    @Mike_Hogsheart Před 6 lety +1

    Could you try to leave off the IHS and apply something like a CLC directly to the die itself? Like, I get that you would want to be very careful with the force you apply, which is why you probably shouldn't do it with one of these super expensive chips, but maybe try it with the overclockable kaby lake i3? Would love to see the difference between IHS and no IHS.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před 6 lety +1

      Not worth the risk. You'd be better off placing the IHS back on there to protect the die.

    • @Mike_Hogsheart
      @Mike_Hogsheart Před 6 lety

      Isn't the IHS made of aluminium as well?

    • @mikecrapse5285
      @mikecrapse5285 Před 6 lety +2

      Usually nickel plated copper. The nickel plating reduces/removes possible galvanic action that occurs between two mixed metals. (i.e. between copper ihs and aluminum heatsink)

    • @mikecrapse5285
      @mikecrapse5285 Před 6 lety

      Der8auer did this. It's the best way to get LN2 to the die.

    • @JETWTF
      @JETWTF Před 6 lety

      That's the whole purpose of the lid, to protect the die. The only reason to bother not using the lid would be if you were doing extreme overclocking where even half a degree in temps could be the difference between a stable overclock and unstable plus you want it as cold as you can get it.

  • @sizar535
    @sizar535 Před 5 lety

    how often do you have to delid it ,, once a year ..? how often ?

  • @bradmorri
    @bradmorri Před 6 lety

    HI Steve, that was my comment on the last vid about the clearance distance between the die and IHS also being part of the issue. I made that comment based on my knowledge of using Liquid metal on GPUs and the fact that you do not get 20 degree improvement in that scenario, not because I have expertise in delidding SkylakeX chips.
    Have you ever tested, or could you please test how using normal TIM on a delidded chip that has reduced clearance distance between die and IHS to see what if any improvement you get and the difference between a top TIM and liquid metal?
    If these chips operated at stock 15 degrees lower than what they are running actually at now, I am guessing that there would not be the same outcry about TIM that we have been seeing since the release of Kaby Lake. If the clearance is 75-80% of the problem, then a campaign for Intel to tighten up their manufacturing clearances and use a thinner layer of adhesive in manufacturing is something that stands a chance of being adopted as a running change. Intel wins because they save money by not using as much silicon while making millions of chips and we win because these chips don thermal throttle any more.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před 6 lety

      TPU tested this previously: www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Delidding_the_Intel_Core_i7_7700K/

  • @mattsmechanicalssi5833

    Nail polish - Check. Girlfriend with nail polish - Should arrive at the same time as the 7980XE! So, good timing! LOL!

  • @ChrisGR93_TxS
    @ChrisGR93_TxS Před 3 lety

    at that point if you willing to take off the ihs why the hell don't go with direct die and liquid metal?

  • @w3st80
    @w3st80 Před 6 lety

    so where can i get correct nail polish that you use?

  • @1Welshdylan
    @1Welshdylan Před 4 lety

    what would happen if you didn't put the lid back on and just cooled with the lid off?

  • @band1t620
    @band1t620 Před 6 lety

    Is it safe to apply nail polish in long run?