"Elden Ring Is Not Peak"
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Elden Ring certainly has it's issues. But to call it a bad game is just the worst take imaginable, lol.
The issue is them interpreting 8 as bad.
8/10 is a very good rating and Elden Ring fits there quitr nicely (imo).
People's perception of rating is just really screwed. A 5/10 or lower is, in most people's minds, basically a 1/10. I don't know why and what caused this, but you can easily notice this trend by looking at reviews from the last half decade or so.
@@lauruva4314I don’t think they see it bad but rather disappointing. Like they said it should have been higher.
The reason why it’s so low is that when ER first launched it had a ton of performance issues on PC.
Because I have the special ability to remember things I preordered the deluxe PS5 edition since FROM have never been great at PC optimisation.
While I think ER is great, it really started to adopt some unfortunate design trends some of the previous FROM games had while casting away their more unique elements.
It’s unfortunate that the only unique voice people seem to see in FROM is their difficulty and now they’ve hammered in on that whole casting aside a lot of their more interesting design trends.
@@chazzergamer yeah I remember defeating the Tree Sentinel after a hundred tries due to input lag. It was frustrating especially whenever it had a slither of health. I had pre planned every move and had to predict their potential attack. It was a pain.
Still fun though.
@lauruva4314 It's not so much as ppl as game reviewers. Companies like IGN review games on a weighted scale so 5/10 for them genuinely is a 1/10. And that's changed how ppl look at the scale
Didn't Connor drop Nier Automata after not being able to beat the tutorial?
i think he just not a fan of jrpg in general
@@crystalesian Nier Automata is an action game first and foremost and I personally think that it shouldn't be in the same category as turn based, random encounter fests like Dragon Quest.
@@crystalesianIt's not a jrpg?
Connor dropped nier after getting the first ending iirc. Let me see if i can find the clip
To be fair the "tutorial" for NA is straight up bullshit, not even OG Demon Souls has something so shit like a 40 min tutorial before getting to a save point.
The only thing I think I could ever complain about in Elden Ring is probably the quest structure. Discovering new people during your travels is cool, but too many of the quests are intertwined and advancing on one makes you accidentally skip others without any indication. If they wanted to do an Open World rpg then really should have invested in more of the trapping of other open world rpgs like a journal/quest log just to let you know what you've started and a general direction on what you need to do next. I don't need any hand holding quest marker on the map, but not having to follow some wiki page just to know where some NPC wants me to go would be nice.
definitely that and the garbage ui/ default controls
That's how quests worked in old souls games, but they were much smaller in scale
Yeah literally just having like a log where you go “this guy said I have no bitches, then bla bla bla” for a couple lines would be real nice
There's always people who think they're better than they actually are, so they try a souls game just to realise they aren't as good.
It hurts their pride so they rather say it's the game's fault, not their's.
Wut..bro just made up worse take lol
there's also people who don't like soulslike games, hear that thing elden ring thing is crazy good, try it, don't like it, and share their reasonable and justified opinion online.
That's not true it's just not a 10/10
@@BestGeb no one said it was 10/10, but giving it a 0 because you want to lower the average, shows that you're salty about everyone else enjoying it.
Watch joseph andersons video. It encapsulates a very good critisim of the game. Because elden ring does have its flaws like anything. He also does talk about the amazing parts of the game. Very good video
Games that get 95+ on Metacritic like Breath of The Wild and Mario Odyssey consistently get 1 point lower in user scores regardless of the actual game, user scores are just lower.
@@RGC_animation Yup, users don't need to care about professionalism or pleasing a reader base, so the scores are often much more varied with a lot of 10s and 0s as well.
bro 8 is pretty good
wtf are they on about
Thing is Elden Ring isn't simply pretty good, it's fucking fantastic.
Elden ring isn't "pretty good" its a masterpiece
Both of you are acting dumb.
The red bar shows the negative reviews and that brings down the score. So is not that a lot of people rate it 8 is that a lot of people put low scores cut tree sentinal took there lunch money.
I am a very bad gamer, and Elden Ring for what I could play was still fun. Still at least a 9.
I can tell that its an incredible game its just not my game
It is peak indeed
I always forget it has a tutorial bc the elevator to leave is right in front of you
And elitist shit like this is why this is the most toxic fanbase at the moment
skill issue
you've clearly never met fortnite/cod elitists
@@scott--1629they're elitists in child senses. They will scream and insult you and your mom and your dad and your dog.
Soulslike elitists will look at your build and murder you if you do so much as try and look cool without being meta or if you do anything other than melee.
@@Diactialiking your own comment 🤡
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme I didn't like my own comment lmao. The only clown here is you.
Souls fanboys trying not to say "skill issue" for 0.08 seconds challenge (impossible)
sounds like ur shit at souls games, souls games is literally the only type of game where "skill issue" is a valid argument
Skkk.......
I mean......if the shoe fits.
this is the opinion u hear from someone that does nothing but play the sims
I hate the "Eldenring Bad?" discussion. Because it feels like it boils down to two camps that throw at each other the words 'toxic gatekeeper' and 'git gud', like that's all the arguments you need to bring your point across. Like the hate the family's of Romeo and Juliette have for each other but without main pair to understand why the hate is so stupid.
Calling a flawless game is wrong. calling it a bad game is wrong. it has serious issues but all in all it’s a great game
Tbh joseph anderson has a good video on elden ring and he has an interesting opinion where hes like "elden ring is simultaneously a master piece and the worst game from soft has made. It is the best world class kind of game but also it kinda poo poo" not his words. Havent played the game mostly because im a poor boy trying to not game asmuch but the video is goated
elden ring sucks bc it can't run properly on my laptop
I tried to show my dad Elden Ring. He didn’t like it. Probably because the only video game he’s ever played was this one WWII game on the Wii. It’s almost certainly that.
PEAK
I can acknowledge that Fromsoft games are amazing accomplishments in the field of gaming while SIMULTANEOUSLY saying I would never play them and rate them as among my least favorite style of game on earth. I can’t handle repeated deaths, brutal difficulty and demanding dodge/party gameplay. Can’t do it. Even if I eventually succeed, it does NOT make it worth it. I feel empty and hollow inside, and eventually just lose all desire to even open the game.
Skill issue
I am a hardcore souls like and especially fromsoft fan. I gotta say the game is overrated. Its not bad but I rated it as a 7.5 on my tier list. Its a lot of wow factor without the intricate details some of the other games have.
more or less agree, unless you would also rate ds3 that low, then i'd disagree out of spite
@@chriss4855 nope, even with the fanservice and linear world structure (which are my only gripes with the game) Id rate it a 8.5 or 9/10
@@leobro6398 not just because i agree, but that's perfectly valid lol
dunno if it was like this for you as well, but going from the bosses in ds3 (which i overall loved) to elden ring was a big part in my disappointment with the game, alongside all the copy-pasting and diminishing sense of reward for exploration
particularly with the multi-boss encounters, like it was baffling how they went from abyss watchers/sister fried egg/demon prince in ds3 to dual gargs/dual crucible knights (before aggro fix) or just pretty much any multi-enemy boss in elden ring
even the solo boss fights in elden ring i typically found to be kinda tedious and less interactive than many of the bosses in ds3, where those in e.r often felt more of a waiting game than a fluid dance against many of the goated bosses in ds3... like dancer of the boreal valley lol
idk man i just love ds3 bosses
@@chriss4855 agreed 100%
Lol another longtime soul games fan saying its not better than the older installments because it's overrated(they won't admit it)
Dark Souls 1 is better.
And Miyazaki agrees.
Ehhhhhhhh no
Elden Ring getting an 8 is reasonable for me, probably 8.5 is the score I'd give to it. But Shadow of the Erdtree is the real fucking deal, that's the game of the year, SotE is just Elden Ring on steroids.
The new DLC is like a 5/10. the Bosses are not fun and the power system is retarded.
Its also incredible easy on your first run because exploring makes you soooo much stronger but its so poorly handled in the game that you will not go exploring a 2nd time.
@@nox5555oh of course you use the r word and also that’s a big skill issue dude .
@@nox5555 In my opinion most of the dlc bosses are way better than in the base game, but to each their own I guess
I've scolled so far i get recently uploaded videos
Bruh the soulslike fanbase is something else. Instead of just accepting that other people don't love the game AS MUCH as they do (it's still an 8 ffs 😂), they'd rather cope that it's probably because those people suck at the game. Never mind the fact that Elden Ring is probably one of the easier soulslikes. The groupthink is insane.
As someone who actually fell as a child and hit my head, elden ring is a fucking masterpiece
There’s no instructions…
eh my thought process ever since i played these when ds1 came out is “they are very good, but *not* very fun most of the time”
the thousands of poison swamps, two enemies ready to *anal*yze you around every other corner, and quite a bit of jankiness really depletes my enjoyment in the beginning
still love the games, but jesus its rough out here sometimes
they are fun though ur just ass
I gave it a 7, 5 is avrage. I find the open world boring and the Bosses are either to hard with out summons or it feels like I am beating up a child with them. I would prefer if they made onther game like sekiro no summons and no over tuned bosses.
average bad souls player
@@scott--1629 I wonder what it feels like to be a literal caricature. So how does it feel to be a living exaggerated representation of everything people hate about the Soulslike genre fanbase?
You give us a bad name.
@@SerLagsalot im not part of the soulslike genre fanbase just because i play some souls games, please do not include me in ur fkn circle jerk, and please point out where i was wrong in what i said? do u not understand that all of his complaints can be solved by literally being good at the game? if u dont understand that then dont reply
@@scott--1629even though he was also complaining of bosses being too easy, you a dumbass?
Bro this is so correct my brother didn’t like it because he has never played a souls like game and tried to defeat the horse sentinel guys for 2 hours and rage quit and called it shit
When neckbeards realize other people have different tastes.
Score should be lower
Honestly just not the game for me always thought the story telling on thise games where kinda eh too
the fact that people who play soulslikes don't realise that they are literally the "yearly sports game" section of the rpg genre genuinely baffles me
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or genuinely ignorant
Lowkey a stretch but i still agree considering how almost every game plays out the same
@@matjaz5684 I mean if you boil it down to just fighting enemies to level up to fight bosses, but by then you could describe literally every game in the action rpg genre with that mechanic like that. Yearly sports games are skinnerbox gambling simulators that reuse the exact same assets year over year and recharge you a full price every 12 months on the dot.
Yea that’s one of the biggest stretches I’ve ever heard
@@erikosericos8271 This comment baffles me
Nah Elden Ring is ass.
I hate the Soulslike form of gameplay, I don't find it challenging, I don't find it fun, I find it boring and frustrating.
And I think Elden Ring is an amazing game.
Not perfect, but amazing.
I got bored with Elden Ring, I felt like there was no story. Yeah, it was difficult, I admit but there was no story there.
I disagree, there's mountains of lore there, such as why did marika kill Godwin, why did ranni help etc. But its just bot told to you directly rather through npc dialogue. Have a glance at the wiki for the story, its like 20 pages long.
no story???? this is like objectiely a wrong take
I really love how there are already people replying to this comment telling you are “objectively wrong”. As if lore equates to a story. People have those two confused all the time. Lore is what took place beforehand meanwhile the story of something is what is actually happening in the present. Yes, souls games and Elden Ring have an incredible amount of lore but if someone can genuinely tell me that the story of these games are something revolutionary then they are conflating the two. The most story focused From game is Sekiro and even though it is just ok.
@@russelldyson4739 all im hearing is a bunch of whining. the way we learn the lore thru the game is storytelling in itself.
@@scott--1629 Ok, so let me get this straight. If we are to take a stance of how most people experience these games which is watch the opening cutscene and be placed into the world with little to no guidance. The majority of people don't even read item descriptions or understand the point of the game besides the intrinsic motivation to explore and fight bosses. Your excuse of learning the lore through the storytelling itself is a moot point since what is the storytelling exactly? There are barely any cutscenes explaining anything and npc dialogue is vague and can easily be missed on a first playthrough (Arguably the most important one). Next you have environmental storytelling which is a dime a dozen from this developer since seeing a dilapidated world with ruins everywhere and hostile residents is definitely the most original concept of all time. Especially if this is the 6th time that this has been done. Now all you have left are the item descriptions that vaguely link things together, however wanting to read them means that I have to care about whatever "story" is in the game to make wonder about the "lore" from previous events in the world. Telling somebody to look at a wiki to learn what happened in the game that they are currently playing is not a good argument on how the storytelling in this game is good. I am saying this as a genuine fan of these games but if VaatiVidya didn't exist half souls community wouldn't have known have the lore in these games to begin with.
The most discriptiv Word for elder ring is disappionting. How ever the word for the dlc is shit. Even more over tuned Bosses and the open world is even more mind numingly boring 4/10.
lmfaoooooo just tell us ur fucking trash