LIVE! Real Lawyer Reacts: Read Trial Day 22: PROCTOR Takes The Stand And It Is Truly Unbelievable
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If the chat thinks the judge is biased against the defense, the jury must think so too.
Great valid point!
Oh yes, she has to be the most openly biased Judge that I have ever seen ❗️🙋♀️✨
That's why the make up of the jury is so critical. Remember the OJ case...
Not necessarily…look at all the high coverage trials recently New York , Hunter Biden etc our judicial branch of conduct are clearly
Immeshed with other branches
I’ve watched some content from the DUI guy. He was in the courtroom observing the jury a few weeks ago. He said the jurors seem to give the minimum required respect for the judge. I got the impression they are not big fans.
Lally has called 800’useless liars and the defense is being rushed???? No ma’am.
I 100% agree! Worthless lying garbage humans! Its a parade of slimy subhumans one after another all day! Lally's up there leading this trash and this judge is allowing these disgusting, unjust downright cruel people to present blatantly disingenuous testimony and slams the defense at any chance she gets. It is outrageous and wrong on every level possible!!
Lol 💯 best comment
There have been no liars. Do you truly believe it’s possible for 20-30 witnesses to ALL be lying about everything and not one of them steps out of line ever? It’s ridiculous to think they could pull that off!
Do you think that it's possible that the judge knows she's innocent the evidence is pretty bad...now is it possible the judge knows in Her heart of hearts that she's innocent and she's just setting them up so that they have a sure fire way to appeal the case/get a mistrial because of the judges action in the courtroom? We know that she's gotta play into the arms of the prosecution because that's her team and can't go against the team... do you think there's a chance she's actually a good person and is handing them a golden ticket with her actions?
This isn't the first time I've seen this kinda stuff where judges actions are insanely out of line and there's a clear cut argument for their "bias" to call for a mistrial.. that judge in Arizona that was overseeing the rancher that shot some illegals on his property did some pretty agregious things as well and they had a clear case for a mistrial. However it was a hung jury so mistrial anyway but the case was so bad that (7-1 not guilty to guilty) the prosecution chose not to retry the guy...
Like is there a world where these judges know things are so clearly wrong for prosecution that they set the person up so they have a clear way to appeal the guilty charge? Or is she just that big of a pos? I mean we've all seen how corrupt the court system is in America at the moment.. idk some things are so bad that even I as a non lawyer am like wtf are these judges doing are they that okay with violating due process or are they trying to help?
I was thinking of something similar, like I’m not fully convinced myself of this theory, but I could see it
This judge is openly biased, rude, and disorganized. This case is already an epic mess, and she makes things even worse.
I did not even see everything i think the same. This case stinks from the beginning
She needs to just go away for life.. Retire whatever the hell judges do when they go away.
This Proctor guy is what makes people hate and distrust cops. He is a slimeball. Could the judge stop sighing in an annoyed manner into the mic. These people are an embarrassment to the American legal system
So true. Cops are hated by the people because they hate people. They work with a small percentage of the population who hate them and then they, in turn, hate on the innocent 99%.
The 1% of fabulous cops, like in the Chad Daybell case, are loved by 99% of the people. And the bad cops hate them and are jealous. A prerequisite for being a cop is having low intelligence and delicate ego. A murderous combination. I worked with them and was shocked by them.
I wouldn't ring them up for anything. They just are too corrupt and generally pretty much like Proctor.
This was the most ridiculous day of the trial. From the judges sour mood, her blatant favoritism towards the prosecution, giving Lally all the time in the world while restricting the DEFENSE'S time, and almost every word that fell out of Proctor's mouth was just insane today. This is a circus, and everyone involved should be facing consequences. The dysfunction and lack of professionalism in this court is astounding.
she also should have been the one to reprimand Lally for allowing Proctor to misread the text exchanges and not provide clarifying information. Jackson should absolutely not have had to take it upon himself to interject and demand that the reading be fair and accurate. that’s the duty of the judge. she was fully ready to let it go on and to make Jackson “address it on cross”
She is the absolute WORST
I think her snapping around is very unprofessional. She is a human being, so getting emotional after all this time is ok, but she does it constantly! Like get some meditation or somethin' 😅
She told Proctor to read the words out loud, not spell them out. She said “You said it…”. Did you miss that? Proctor was humiliated, as he should have been. Does the Judge get credit for that? Of course not! 🤣😂😅
And she is aware she's being videod and she acts like that
How anyone can think she’s guilty after all of this is beyond me.
you can still think..thetes a LOT of people with lack of comprehensive skills,as we see in comments 😊 but no way you could know for a fact. because,even if there were some evidence,these corrupt officers destroyed all legitimaticy of those. so, not guilty should be the verdict!
You should catch up about the pieces of her tail light cover found under the snow & more later when the snow had melted as well as Lots of tiny fragments, red & clear, that were in his Clothes. Then there's the broken cocktail glass that he was seen still holding when he left the Waterfall & the main piece was found by his body, plus little bits on the road & one piece on her ridged bumper bar that also had tiny bits of the clear part of the tail light cover.
Read will get extra jail time for agreeing to go along with the Abysmal made up story that she & Jackson put out to the media. It's for this reason of blaming others & Lots of others that the prosecutor chose to put the cart before the horse. You kids should Understand that it's the Job of a defence lawyer to accuse other people for the purpose of trying to save their client from the gallows.
The first thing Read said when she called Kerry Roberts was, that John was dead. She was the only one who knew a body was at that side part of the yard, under 4 - 6 inches of snow. Because of the child lock for the back doors, when she screamed that she saw him, she couldn’t get out & Jen & Kerry had Time to look around & saw Nothing. Who else but a vicious Nutter would be soo fn Angry that her exit door was locked & so she was Kicking it due to her quick fire Temper, like the evil eyed Thing that she obviously Is.
More than one first responder at the scene heard Read say she hit him. After the ambulance had taken John to hospital, Read kept saying that she wanted to kill herself, which is also an admission of guilt, due to remorse. Another ambulance had to be called & she was taken to the hospital for an assessment. When she later found out that there wasn't any ring camera footage nor did the cop cam footage pick up what she Said, she did the ole switcheroo about her Admissions. Since then, she has told various versions including for a TV interview, because she can't remember her Lies.
FYI - the CCTV at John's house shows that she reversed her vehicle all the way back for no other reason than to deliberately bang into the back of John's car for the purpose of trying to cover up when & where the tail light cover on her car was broken. The authentic footage shows that she pressed a button on the console which was to disable the brake assist. You should know that the model of that vehicle had a reversing camera & screen & so, a Sensor. No doubt she went over to the Albert's house at that time in the morning to see if any pieces there but it had snowed too much by then. Aww.
At the very beginning, Yanetti stated on the court house steps that it was an accident & she didn't mean to hit him. Then a performing clown was paid to accuse the cops of Her dirty deed & now people like you believe that every person in town who had a pulse is a liar. I pity all who believe that serving police officers have covered up the killing of one of their own. Then there's also the many EMT present at the scene & multiple others at the hospital, all of whom you accuse of doing the same.
The evidence of her driving the route back to the Albert's house is Coming Up with the trial & the medical examiner will tell you that John did Not have two black eyes, for a Start. Evil personified is Karen Read who deliberately reversed from 60 feet away at 24.2 miles per hour & her ten ton Truck slammed into the head of a serving police officer as he was bending down & she just left him there to freeze to death.
The actual strange part is all those who believe every word a Defence lawyer has been spouting from the rooftops as his Marketing ploy. Yawn.
There are many Doctored photos of John’s arm as if lots of dark red blood as if from deep cuts yet not one photo shows Any blood on his arm Anywhere. The sole Purpose of Jackson's very public hooha in the lead up for the TV cameras, was for any potential jurors to be greatly Influenced. Only morons believe the Abrasions are from a dog & BTW - last time I checked, dogs have Bottom teeth also. Doh. It's about time that someone started showing pictures of a Square shaped Earth. LMAO. Imagine the Money I would make from those. No doubt You would be all-in on That con job too hey lovey.
Jackson only started up his dirty deeds fairy tale because those at the afterparty were Cops & their family & so he included every cop in the State as a cover up squad yet one of theirs was killed. And the bagging of All cops in one basket was to grab the instant Attention of people like You, obviously. Only numpties believe Jacksons pathetic BS. Here’s how it goes - the more witnesses the prosecution had to put on the stand the More the trial drags out & so, the More work for her performing seals to do & so the Mega bucks that they get from Her. LOL.
The best part about the whole gutter sniping scenario is that Read is Broke & she will Always be broke as John's niece & nephew will Sue her evil ass to hell & back next. LMAO
Karen Read's broken tail light fragments near the body. Her Lexus GPS puts her at the exact location of the body when she engaged in a high-speed back-up event.
No canine DNA found on a sleeve that should be covered in dog saliva if his injuries were caused by a dog attack.
Zero evidence troopers planted any evidence.
Karen Read is 100% guilty which is why she will not take the stand in her defense.
The FBI will end their investigation without charging anyone with a crime, which will be an admission that nobody framed Karen Read.
@@slanigrad very true! I can absolutely understand that point of view
Only 'whack' jobs think that😂
Regardless if Karen is guilty or innocent, this trial absolutely sickens me! The judge is so condescending, and Proctor is a low life scumbag! People who are in a position of power…. that make derogatory comments about people’s illnesses… should be fired🤬.
To Julie Schwartz: Perfectly stated.
The investigation was sloppy. The officers involved are not professional. The prosecution team are running in circles. The defense team are struggling at every little piece of evidence.
If you’re familiar with the Delphi case… that judge is EVEN WORSE!! She literally won’t even let the Defense attorneys talk and rules without hearings!
Cops, gotta love them, they are a necessary evil, but I've always said they are the most arrogant people on the planet. However, if there's a criminal in the neighborhood, I'm going to call them and be as polite as possible. Basically what we have, regarding the police, is a necessary relationship, just like we often have with arrogant bosses, or corrupt business owners whom we work for. If we want a job, we have to be polite. If we want the police to help us in time of need, we have to be polite.
I really don't like the judge. I'm glad she didn't block them but the way she was annoyed with him about the timeline of the trial as if he was eating most of their time...I swear I'm getting so stressed watching this. I don't even watch the trial every day because I don't like the way the judge acts. She is definitely not like the one who was for the JD vs AH trial.
To hear a law enforcement officer call this “dark humor” is absolutely disgusting and 10000% the core of the problem. The bar is so low for American policing.
Yes, it is definitely not humour, it's ingrained with misogyny and disrespect.
They only need a high school diploma and a couple months of shitty training.
Just “locker room talk.” NO. NO.
@@gigisielaff he saw Trump win the election after he used the “locker room talk” excuse. Can’t blame him for trying.
They’re small town losers with too much time on their hands
This judge does NOT come across as Professional at ALL. the huffing, the interrupting, snarking tone and being accusatory toward the defence council. Its so off-putting.
She must be a real GAS as a grandma! Yikes!
She really should not be on the case, not just because of her connection to the witnesses but her attitude
@@yogabee2222 Her connection to the witnesses??
@@NameGame935 One of the rumors is that she has a cottage on Cape Cod and the McCabes or the Alberts spend a certain holiday there at her invitation. The other is that her brother represented one of the Alberts in a court case. I probably don't have either of them exactly right, but close enough.
If someone can weigh in with a more accurate rendition, please do!
She's also far too indecisive.
Hearing this judge audibly SIGHING into the microphone is infuriating. The way she is treating Yannetti is appalling. How unprofessional and biased. Hearing Peter confirm this reaction is reassuring. I cannot believe the depth of my loathing for this person.
It was so rude and unprofessional after she has let Lally go on and on for weeks!
And don’t forget that Lally initially wanted the judge to decide on his 6 page motion right on the spot! This indicates to me that Lally knew, that Janetti never said it… And Lally knew the defence wouldn’t be able to prove that, without finding and listening to the recordings first!
I can't wait for a movie about this and who would play this terrible judge! 😂
I totally agree I have no respect for this Judge
She is acting as if it's all a pain for her to deal with then step down Judge Let someone who stands for the truth take your place
Both of my children and in law enforcement and this is absolutely disgusting...if I ever found out one of my kids said anything like this I would be so disappointed. So unprofessional and disrespectful. How does he still have a job after all this??
Why would it be unusual to call a lawyer on the first day??
They already were accusing her of hitting John, took her car and cell phone.
I would have called a lawyer too!!
EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE AS WELL!
All I can think about is that a person died and we and his family will never know what happened to him. And being that he’s a fellow police officer, this behavior and carelessness for his life is despicable.
so tragic. truth needs to happen for the O'Keefe family
@ngm12
But they are having a trial to find the truth - wait till the tekkies come out, lets see if they can trace the movements of Reads car.
Hoping the feds have some idea and evidence of what actually occurred. I have certain he was not hit by KR's car simply by his injuries. The defenses belief that he was in a fight and eventually left in the cold makes far more sense. And no matter how many times witnesses get up on the stand and try to tell us our eyes are lying when we see an intact taillight and not one completely destroyed, is only making them look like they ARE apart of a coverup. Those early morning videos do not show a taillight that was missing 45 pieces! Insanity.
not sure I feel for his family and friends after today, they had some response that sows they think the msgs were funny!!! lost all my respect for them
@@antoinetteespach5831 if they were laughing at the messages I will lose all sympathy for them. And imagine how that played with the jury. They were feeling bad for John’s mom because she was crying. Imagine the reaction if she was laughing at the texts as was reported.
A couple days ago while doing yard work I found a brand new unused paint brush in my front yard. It's not mine. Yesterday there was a soccer ball in my front yard. Not mine, also a giant tennis ball was in the yard on the side of my house. Not mine. A few weeks ago while sweeping my front sidewalk after doing some yard work I found some cigarette butts. Not mine. No one in my house smokes. I found a take out container from a Chinese restaurant laying on my grass. I don't like or eat Chinese food. I found a shopping list with a whole bunch of stuff that I don't buy. I found a math test laying in my yard by someone named Josh. Don't know anyone named Josh that is young enough to be in 4th grade. My point is that every single day/week there is all kinds of stuff laying in the road in front of my house or laying in the grass. Several times a week I am picking stuff up that has blown into my yard, driveway, sidewalk or the road in front of my house. None of the stuff is mine. I put my trash in a trash bag and put it in the trash can. So for those bozo cops to say that they found a straw in the yard/road or wherever and that automatically makes it Karen Reads straw from that night is complete BS.
I was so invested in your story. 😊
This is doubly true if you have a dog that's allowed to free roam in your yard. Even with a fence, sometimes the dog will go to a friendly neighbor's house, have a play date with the dog next door, and suddenly there's a new dog toy or gardening supply in the yard. Or the dog finds a long forgotten trinket that was lost in a backyard bush 2 homeowners ago. You never know where something comes from.
You need to move lol
You must ALSO live on a busy street. Same here.
It’s not stupid because John was holding a beverage with the straw when Karen Read ran him down. That was just one piece of many, many pieces of evidence.
*HATE* this "judge". She's the one that told them they couldn't speak to the federal experts and now she's pissed that they haven't interviewed them. All she cares about is getting out of there. Why does she even have ths job if she doesn't want it? I miss the professionalism of Judge Boyce!
Call Judge Judy! Lol😂
Yes I agree. And also those police and Lawyers were fabulous....even Prior wasn't this corrupt. I really hope this defense lawyer wins!!!!!!
@@fridaytieday YES! All the LE on those two cases, and Prosecutor Lindsey Blake... heroes. Gold standard tbh.
He needs to be fired without pension along with his direct superiors!
And who believes he stopped looking through the phone when he saw the attorney message?
Only the trolls 😂
His wife.
He must have read a lot for him to hate Yanetti
@@francescawilliams8177 That's exactly what I thought. Proctor couldn't provide ANYTHING to explain his hatred towards Yannetti, and yet he could discuss it with his colleagues..
@@gevieouttaluck and when he was asked about it he shouldn’t have said he doesn’t care. He should have said “I am sorry for the comments I made about Mr Yanetti and as I give this testimony today , I have no issue with him nor his client.”
If you think Proctor's wife is gonna divorce him/should divorce him after hearing he's at work going through suspects phones looking for nudes and degrading women this way, AND think he should be fired,
👇hit that like button!
His poor wife, how embarrassing. There is some real sickos out there even in the police. Disgusting deviant behaviour. This is why many people do not trust the police.
Idk if his wife will divorce him. Some women are disgusting and let their husband's do whatever they want if they're the one's who bring home the money. His wife has 2 babies and I guarantee she believes his lies.
She is probably just as vile as him behind closed doors.
The only way she'll divorce him is if he goes to prison.
@@soude85You are correct!!
Proctor repeating that "it's a regretable joke" is giving Alex Murdaugh saying "I took their money, I shouldn't have done it," over and over again when HE was on the stand.
Yes!! That is EXACTLY what I was thinking! Canned, useless, repetitive and completely emotionless. How about something like, “I am disgusted with myself and so embarrassed that my character is in full display like this for the whole world to see. I am so sorry for everything I said, not because I got caught, but because I am truly sorry. I can only say that I have learned my lesson and I truly know that I need to do much better in order to become a decent man and trustworthy detective.”
What you don't understand about Auntie Bev is she's complicit with the commonwealth. She has always been for the commonwealth. Her brother was the lawyer for Chris Albert when he got into a fatal accident after drinking and driving and killing a Hungary exchange student. Chris Albert took off for over 30 hrs until getting a hold of Auntie Bev's brother. He ended up serving 6 months of a 2 yr sentence. They gave him 1 1/2 yr suspended. The defense asked the judge to recuse herself she said no. She has an affiliation with the "McAlberts" as we call them up here (Alberts/McCabe). She is keeping Lallys head above water. He is drowning a little bit more everyday. Auntie Bev was appointed as a Superior Court judge by former governor Deval Patrick. She was a public defender before that 🙄. Obviously she's out of her league. I have never seen a judge use the word SUSTAINED so many times as I have heard her use it. She rarely ever says "Overruled" she says "I'll give them that". She's very biased towards the defense. She needs to be demoted. And that's being nice. Atty Jackson is a former Southern California Prosecutor (Phil Spector) and is now a defense atty and a Damn Good One. Atty Yanetti is a former Middlesex ADA. He also is a very good attorney and together they are AWESOME! We call Atty Jackson Assassin Jackson! He Rocks.
All so well explained thanks.
1:13:32 "I just thought Karen was a disgusting C U Next Tuesday and a total whack job and thought she was guilty within the first 2 seconds of my involvement in the case, but that had ZERO impact on the integrity of the investigation. I was still completely fair and unbiased." --Basically what Proctor tried saying. WE'RE NOT STUPID, DUDE. AND NEITHER IS THE JURY!
Exactly! He wrote that 5 hours after John was found. By that time she was still in the hospital and John was recently declared dead. Nobody had seized the car, seized the phone, had interviewed her yet. Nothing. And he was writing this absolutely disgusting texts about a woman he hadn't even met yet 🤦🤦🤦
@@milujoTV exactly!!!
Umm, y'alls whining about a cop who was understandably venting because of a lowlife vicious cop killer, will Not save her evil ass.
@@milujoTVand according to the prosecution, I don’t believe he’d even been at the crime scene yet.
And funny how his initial thought of a woman cop beating him up went out the window as soon as he talked to the Alberts/Mcabes.
"The tail light was cracked but with a piece missing but not completely damaged" Why did the prosecution call him? He is a defense witness.
lol I wondered that too. 😂
I think the prosecution is trying to call everyone the defence might to get "ahead" of the issue. Lally just seems tragically bad at it.
Maybe he was trying to prove the defense is wrong.
@@nancypelletier7590 But that’s exactly what the defence claims… That there was a crack because she hit John’s car.
Lally claims the whole thing was broken and that the 40 pieces were laying on the Albert’s lawn since the night before.
I don’t think anyone has accused lally and the CW of being clever…
To Erik Slocum, if you’re reading these comments-
You write “not to justify his disrespectful texts” and then in the next sentence you justify his disrespectful texts. You sought to explain them in a way that minimizes their impact and wrongfulness. That’s literally what justifying is.
What this dude- Proctor- wrote is not “dark humor”. Were you actually watching the trial? What he said was a filthy perverted violation of her privacy and dignity, a vile repulsive slanderous repudiation of Karen Read’s character, and a sickening disdain using her medical conditions as fodder for his pathetic and unjustifiable hatred of her literal existence among the living.
And he was INVESTIGATING HER. This is the guys tasked with an “unbiased” inquiry into what happened to John O’Keefe. Pathetic.
And the fact that you’re law enforcement too (frankly not a shock) does not mean you or law enforcement generally have a monopoly on seeing people “at their worst”. There’s plenty of people who see the worst humanity has to offer- to a certain degree EVERYbody is exposed to it- without behaving like a disgusting pig, which is what Proctor is. And I don’t mean that word in a derogatory sense how people sometimes say it about cops. I mean his behavior is literally piggish.
I don’t understand why you have to justify or even just explain this guys horrible conduct just because you’re also in law enforcement. It’s so disappointing that people do this. I would be so much more impressed to see a fellow law enforcement guy criticizing him and saying there’s no excuse. If you are better than this man, and you take your responsibility for impartiality and integrity seriously, don’t get down in the filthy water with him. Be the better man. He’s no example for aaaaanybody to follow. He drags good cops down with his behavior, and frankly he drags all of us as human beings down with him too.
👏 well said
EXACTLY!!!! I wonder if these people trying to justify this behavior would feel that way if they discovered their children’s teachers referring to their children that way! There SIMPLY IS NO EXCUSE! For ANYONE!
I'm watching this on Tuesday morning - I have a difficult time in believing that Proctor actually stopped looking through KR's phone when he saw her text to her attorney. He doesn't appear to have that much integrity. This case should be immediately dismissed.
I agree with you 100%
I know the texts were horrible. He was obviously in a mood. I believe he would have integrity doing this investigation and as a person. He should have channeled his anger in a better way.
I agree. I doubt he stopped.
He seems like a malignant narcissist to me. People are just things to them. Sounds like he has anger issues and his extremely mysoginistic attitude and how he can lie so easily all point towards it.
GB13 I do too.
The fact that the judge continues to reprimand the defense for 'wasting time', yet allowing the prosecution to spend hours and hours on irrelevant, and duplicate info and never saying anything about it is just mind boggling.
👏 We all know when it snowed, how much it snowed, what the snow looked like, who won the basketball game, who had what to drink, who saved a puppy from certain doom but BY ALL MEANS, let’s give Yanetti crap about a legitimate response to a motion that was in fact, a blatant lie by Lally and a pathetic attempt to further stall and derail this joke of a trial. Someone needs to remind this judge that SHE is half of the problem when it comes to wasting time.
WOW. Proctor is one of the reasons why a lot of people have lost confidence in law enforcement & the judicial system.
Well I am in the UK, you should check on the Met Police, from rapists to murdering a girl.
I don’t believe in law enforcement, most of them are corrupted. Not fair on the real honest cops doing their job right.
Don't forget that his bosses didn't reprimand him but replied with a laughing emoji. The word is overused but this is absolutely systemic in the MSP.
This case proves to me, no matter what happens, if I am ever detained, I will hire an attorney. Which makes the idea that anyone who hires an attorney is proving their guilt actually kind of frightening.
Honestly, this is insane. We have to protect ourselves from the people we pay to protect us?
Any defense attorney will tell you - NEVER speak to police without an attorney present in any kind of interview or in custody situation. There’s a reason…even if they are decent, they’re not there to be your friends and protect your interests. They are there to solve a case.
Colin Albert’s mum telling Proctor she ‘owes him a Gift’ says it all
Absolutely, it is a bombshell to me
@@neonsky5429 I’m surprised the defense hasn’t had more to say, maybe it’s to come when they bring their case. Why on earth would Colin Albert’s mum feel she needs to get Proctor a gift, wasn’t on her lawn John was found? She wasn’t even there? But wanna be hard man Colin was?
Right!!!! Why would she be so happy about how he is “handling” this case!!! If he never went in the house how does she even get involved.
@@benno10xxthey were still in cross when the day ended, there’s more to come for Jackson’s cross of Proctor.
This judge is awful. The way she talks to the defense is just showing clear and apparent bias imo. She seems to be upset that Lally is losing the case. She helps him through his testimony, she sustains most of his objections, she sighs audibly into the mic and acts like she's put out by the defense simply doing their job. If I lived in that county I would NEVER vote her back into office. EVER.
Judges in Massachusetts are appointed by the governor, not elected by the people. Time to write the governor.
The problem is she is appointed, we have to change the laws so that we are able to vote for judges in these states like Mass 🙋♀️✨
@@timblanch7577 Judges in MA are lifetime appointments. This can be changed through introducing an amendment to the existing MA state constitution.
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The judge’s brother represented Chris Albert after he killed someone in a DUI and lead the police on a 30+,hour manhunt. Got him off with six months.
Rumor has it that her vacation home down the Cape is neighboring that of members of the Albert/McCabe Clan and that she shares a private beach with them.
(I have not yet been able to verify that last part yet, but the first part is definitely true.)
There was a question from the beginning as to whether she could be neutral on a case involving the Albert Family.
Proctor is only sorry that he got caught saying these things about Karen. He's not sorry he said it. He's just sorry he got caught
Very good point
Proctor was not even reprimanded- he’s not getting fired. Those texts were going directly to his supervisors. It’s systemic.
THIS is exactly why the others got rid of their phones!! Because they most definitely had incriminating conversations on them!!!
I’ve watched a lot of criminal and civil trials from start to finish and this judge is easily one of the worst I’ve had the misfortune of witnessing. This trial needs to end immediately.
The one in the Parkland shooter trial was worse, in my opinion. This one is pretty high on the list though.
@@zakk3910I agree!! That Judge was the worst one I’ve ever seen!!! Horrible!!! I was glad she was publicly reprimanded after!!
If you can believe it, the judge in the Delphi murder case is worse😮
The Parker shooting judge was furious when the defense team held up their middle finger and laughed at some of the people making witness impact statements. I don’t blame her. The defense was horribly disrespectful to the parents whose kids were shot and killed or were damaged for life. She did lose her impartiality but I couldn’t blame her.
@@zakk3910no the defence was the worst in that case
The fact that he can say: “Integrity of this investigation,” with a straight face.
Does anyone believe he actually stopped reading the texts between her and her attorney?! I am sure he read everything between them!!
He is not sorry for what he done, he’s sorry he got caught.
Proctor should be fired
Should be. Like yes, about two years ago. A disgusting boy.
I suspect that might be the least of his concerns atm. I believe there's an ongoing federal investigation. In fact, both Prosecution AND Defence teams wanted to delay this trial until the federal investigation had concluded.
And lose his pension, apologize to many, get the karma he deserves, and, and,
Bev too
His whole department
All of his superiors were involved in the vulgar chats. There's no one to fire him.
Correct! I hope the Feds get them all!!
Yes, there is - there always is. The problem is, MSP usually promotes these types.
They all should be fired!
@@mamacita8688 hence there's nobody that would do it. The only way he'll be gone is if he goes to prison.
And I also noticed there wasn’t a woman in those chats. We all know why
You can tell the corruption stems from the top down in that department. It's absolutely disgusting
After seeing his text messages he shouldn’t even be able to pull a female over for speeding !!!!! Disgusting and totally unprofessional!!! He should have been be FIRED long ago!!!!
I wonder if anyone has done a running count of aunt Bevs sighs? Every SINGLE time she isn’t happy with the defense, she freaking sighs! Doesn’t this woman have a family who can tell her how embarrassing she is? She’s on LIVE tv!
Aunt Bev??😂😂. Perfect!
Thank you!!!!👏👏👏 does she not go on social media or her family and EVERYONE saying how bias she is, her sighs are so flippin disrespectful.
Today was by far the worst she has treated the defense. When Yanetti was making his argument on the motion she "portrayed" him to be putting on a show. 🙄
NO LADY. he is extremely passionate about his job and defending his client❤ that really angered me for them today.
Monsters and Motives has a bunch of charts on her behavior...they are worth a look.
She was actually laughing/giggly at some point, says a lot about her., and her friends and family sitting next to her!!!!!
her family is most likely as embarrassing as she is...
This judge is so biased and has treated the defense as she did in the motion hearing today since the beginning. I don’t know how she is on the bench. We need to start to weed out these awful judges. They are destroying our judicial system.
Citizens in Massachusetts need to write to the governor, as judges are appointed and not elected. In many other states judges are elected by the people.
@@RileyH-fh8vfshe also has a lifetime appointment. Massachusetts handles judge positions insanely. All of them are lifetime appointments
1000%!! She’s a disgrace
Awful judges & bad cops go together like coffee & cream! 😳😅
The system has been destroyed for a while.
I CANT BELIEVE HE IS NOT ON LEAVE for these texts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS POLICE FORCE, THIS POLICE FORCE. Shit its embarassing.
My son-in-law was erroneous arrested for DUI in Texas and he called his lawyer as soon as it was allowed. BTW when the case came before the judge it was dismissed with the judge asking the prosecutor “why are you wasting my time”.
Those text messages should get him fired. This cop is such a disgusting human being.
yet,those messages are least of evil these guys do to people. imagine how they act and 'work' when its some civilian found dead!
and fire the "(un)supervisors" that astoundingly think it's business as usual to speak this way. fire them all no pension.
Agreed, There are several people who need to be fired! This case is an absolute mess. The thing I don't understand is people who think she's guilty? That's terrifying being there isn't any actual evidence of that and a whole lot of evidence of corruption. Bet if they were on trial for this they would have a different view!
Well it was not made public until now! He is done!!!
@@callie_5117all planned and it has truly backfired! Karen would never have jeopardized the two children. John was raising by hitting him with her vehicle. Give me a break. She really deep down. Didn’t like JO’s friends because they didn’t like her. They were jealous. They wanted John to date one of these horrendous women’s friends so they all could hang out together, as a woman been around these type of women all my life as soon as someone knew comes into the picture they are like wolves starving and will do whatever especially when Jen McCabe try to separate Karen and JOHN on the way home if that isn’t an opening for some intenton not only her husband, but the Albert brothers and Higgins and even Colin
Between the judge & Proctor, I ended the day seriously pissed! I have a feeling that Proctor has an issue with women in general.
That attitude is still very much alive in other professional fields where men traditionally dominated.
It was revolting hearing his comments.
The case could end today and I'd vote not guilty. There's no way that I can consider any of the evidence substantial already, but the investigation and evidence collection hinges on the reliability of this man too? This is such a joke.
Yep, I commented during live chat that he definitely was talking about the ME when he sent that message and I bet he says that about any woman who disagrees with him
@@cfawcett9870 I wonder, if that’s the reason, why he didn’t attend the autopsy…🤔 Did he hope this other guy could change the medical examiner’s mind?
I really dont see how Proctor is going to have a job after this. If he keeps his job, I see people protesting it and making it clear they dont want him as a trooper in their state.
I cannot stand when someone does something despicable, and instead of saying, "I am ashamed", they will say "It wasn't my finest hour", or in the case of this vile man, "It wasn't something I was proud of." Of course you weren't proud; you should be disgusted with yourself like the rest of us are.
I can not stand this judge. SHE is the one that acts like she doesn't want to be there and, this whole thing is a big inconvenience to her. The jury is just a good sheild and excuse.
Yeah she's the worst. "Sorry about this inconvenience." What about Karen's inconvenience of having to spend 15 years in jail if you don't do this right?
It’s crazy
Yes acts like she doesn't want here but the reason why she took this case where more important for her..
Olivia Lambo Two facts:
1)Judge Cannone’s brother, John Prescott, represented Chris Albert as his attorney for his hit & run homicide back in 1994.
2)Judge Cannone’s popular nickname (in reference to this case), “Auntie Bev”, was given to her by “witness” Jen McCabe’s brother-in-law, Sean McCabe, when he threatened to bury the corpse of investigative journalist @DoctorTurtleboy
-who’s been covering and broke the story- under the “seaside cottage” of the Judge.
When asked if he/his family had a “line to Judge Cannone”, Sean McCabe stated: “Auntie Bev??? Whose seaside cottage do you think we're going to bury your corpse under?”
How about John O’Keefe being dead because of her drunken rage?
Devils advocate here.
I, too, see the judge's blatant exasperation with the defense and do find it off putting from a professionalism standpoint.
At the same time, I can also see the frustration of overseeing such a public trial where the defense is, in fact, often playing to the cameras, the media, and the internet.
Do I blame them? No.
Does it excuse her? No.
But think about how you feel/react to some of the CWs witnesses that overplay it and ham it up for the jury.
I'm not a fan of the "I'll allows its'" and the "I'll let him have its'", but does this show her animus in this trial, or is it normal for her?
This is the rudest judge I have ever seen! She needs to retire. I am shocked at her demeanour!
She’s a Bostonion so…
Apparently she’s in for life too, so she won’t be retiring for a long while
She is 63 and there is a mandatory retirement age of 70. So we may have Bev around for a while
We all need to comprehend that the cops, prosecutors and Judges are all in the same criminal gang. Like the mafia, they’ll kill (metaphorically) one of their own to protect the mob members. The judge is the Don.
😊⁰l9p@@maycronin1188
Why haven't they asked him about the gift? He needs to explain why they thought he was deserving of the gift? What did he do that warranted a gift??
It's not weird that she has texts with a lawyer on Jan 29. If cops have seized my vehicle, which they did in this case on Jan 29, I'm texting a lawyer asap.
Her sighing makes me so angry.
Proctor is disgusting.
When she sighs makes me angry.
For example, one of her pathetic, unprofessional sighs was when Jackson began reading off the five troopers that were on one of this group chats. Jackson, you could tell, wanted the trooper’s first and last name to be known to the public and Auntie Bev didn’t like that at all. She let out a heavy sigh the second Jackson said the first and last name of the first trooper. She can’t help herself.
She hates her job
I think the murder of John O'Keefe has been so understated. He's lost in this case because of people like Proctor and frankly Yuri too. This case is so horrible that whether she did it or not, at this rate, you can't vote her guilty. It's so bad. I feel for the entire O'Keefe family.
Crazy when Detective Proctor has to testify to his behavior vs his murder investigation.
His investigation lol he didn't do 1
I appreciate the professionalism of Yannetti bc i could never be a lawyer and let that judge rush and yell at me while Lally is allowed to meander along for 7 weeks.😤
I have a chronic illness that has taken away so much of my life, but like KR I am a successful professor who manages to get out of bed despite my disability. I don't have the same medical issues as she does, but mine are also embarrassing and I can't imagine someone sending out information about me that includes that info. One's health status and struggles are irrelevant to any crime they may be accused of committing. How dare his supervisors tolerate this behavior? It is dreadful that he said these things but worse that his supervisors tolerated the comments and laughed along. This isn't one bad officer, it is a systemic problem, John Proctor is a product of a corrupt system that let him use his power as a playground and to dehumanize suspects. Thankfully KR can afford to hire first rate lawyers uncovering this and forcing accountability from those who participated has the potential to help everyone.
According to her attorneys, she is as poor as a church mouse. What Proctor texted was 100% wrong. On the other hand he was really angry with her for trying to blame others. I think he has learned a hard lesson. I am hoping that he will apologize to her, even though she is guilty.j
Very very well said . 😊
@@barbaramay1866she never blamed anyone 😂 you really need to stop making yourself look dumb like the dirty cops
This JUDGE IS BY FAR THE WORST JUDGE IN THE LAND !! Her SIGHS ARE YOU KIDDING ME !! She needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY! Charges need to be filed against her too !! Prayers that John O’Keefe’s Family receives JUSTICE because this is all such a joke ! I never believed there was a cover up . I grew up believing the police were good & honest ! NOW I’m POSITIVE There is a cover up and the judge she’s a sham
I totally agree 💯❗️She’s gotz to GO♥️🙋♀️✨
I Completely Agree! Such a Disgrace!!
She's 100% more reasonable now than she was pretrial.
Cops lie 🎉😢🎉😢
Looks like she eats a lot of Big Macs every day & a whole cake before going to bed 😅
He is not sorry. KR is sitting in front of him. He could have looked at her when saying he regretted it. He’s only sorry he was caught. He should be fired. 😊
I cannot wait until Allen Jackson goes after Proctor in cross. He started out with a BANG! This officer is one of the worst of the worst.
This case should be thrown out tomorrow. The judge was in a mood today… the hearing was a joke. Lally is the king of time wasting… Today was all around disgusting.
Not being thrown out…too much evidence against her.
@@PEBBLEZ21against who?
@@LadyLuck13I say there’s too much evidence against this bias horrid judge
@@kristentrep5038 oh I agree but that's not who Pebbles is talking about. She means Karen
@@PEBBLEZ21jajajajaja 😂
If this is the stuff that made it to the trial, imagine what was on the phone of the detective who erased his phone! NOW it makes sense why he "changed phone" that day.
If this is on a phone not " rehomed" ... it makes me wonder what was on the other phones?
I have to add, he sustained a boxer’s fracture and was clearly in a fight! It was proven her taillight was INTACT when she left the next morning to look for him. This was clearly a cover up!
10 women on this jury are going to be in deliberations as long as it takes to read the jury instructions. 15mins tops. 🤦♀️
I give deliberations at least an hour. They'll need that long to vent about having to sit through this circus before voting to acquit.
I hope they do it in less than an hour to make a point to the prosecution, the enforcers and families involved in this.
5 minutes deliberation, 3 hours to sit and bitch, and enjoy snacks.
Might as well wait until after lunch to get a free meal 😂😂😂😂
agree!!
He is an investigator not a first responder. He needs prison.
As an MSP Trooper 1st Class - he is a "First Responder". I wouldn't put my life in his hands though.
When I backed into a post, I cracked my tail light and the missing piece fell INSIDE the housing. That could explain why there wasn’t a piece of tail light found in the driveway of John’s house. My heart just breaks for the O’Keefe family 😢 They have been through so much sorrow and then to hear all of the garbage talk from Proctor and see how badly this case was investigated must be devastating. I think about how Albert and Higgins went all the way to New York to honor a fellow officer killed in the line of duty but they couldn’t spare one second to help a fellow officer in their own backyard get justice. I really hope that someday change happens from all of this being exposed and that the family can take some comfort in that.
John's car has a very clear dent on the right side of the trunk where she backed into his car. Her tyre tread went to almost middle of his bumper so impact would be past that, not the left like Proctor is saying. BULL! Just BULL! His lies are APPALLING. Does he think we're blind? *rage scream*
If he talks this way about an innocent woman! Think about how him and his buddies have compared and talked about the female officers behind their back! 🤬
What’s worse is think about how him and his buddies talk about the female victims he comes across. I wonder how many times he’s discussed the figure of a SA or murder victim found naked or partly naked in that chat group?
All very Very normal behaviour because cops are People too.
@@Wheelyadventures I wonder how many times a Female officer has discussed the size of naked blokes appendage. Umm, haven't You?
She is not innocent. She has a potty mouth too. Maybe the voicemails she left for John shortly before she rammed into him will be brought in as evidence. Then you will understand.
@@bethryan9077are you saying the way Proctor spoke of Karen or any woman is ok? It seemed pretty unacceptable to me
I have no respect for this judge and she needs to be removed from the case she's already shown how bias she is against the defense
BiasED. She has shown bias against them, therefore she is biased.
She needs to be investigated. This Judge is vile.
Peter, my 16 year old granddaughter wants to be a lawyer. She is watching your channel to learn from you. You are making a big difference and we are learning so much. 😊
LOVE THIS. Very best of luck to your family. Throw men like this in jail.
She’s being framed..how can you deny that! OMG…It’s so obvious.
I was so angry from the off with the judge. She's so biased. What harm did it cause her to let him say it in his style, instead of trying to throw him off what he's saying by refusing him to say it how he planned. He was rightfully angry.i felt she risked throwing him off his game for the whole day, coz something like that could affect your game. It was disrespectful. Think she was in a mood and I found her unprofessional about it, he's defending his character as well as his defendant.
She asked him how long his argument would take and yet, she interrupted him after only two sentences! He had a right to plead his case, whether she liked his arguments or not.
Her reaction was unprofessional and rude, to say the least…
is it wrong to expect more from a judge?
Not only that, his “hyperbole” would have taken up an entire extra minute. It wasn’t a big deal. She made it a big deal. She just wanted to chastise him publicly and show him up.
Judge is BIAS and it is so obvious she doesn't hide it at all.
BiasED. She is clearly biased against the defense.
This is the guy they send to protect and serve? The idea of that is frightening. I feel so humiliated for Karen, and incredibly disgusted in Trooper Proctor.
I don't even think this fool knows what the word "objectifying" means.
lol I thought the same thing when he couldn’t answer the question. But typical.
That was Jackson’s word. Proctor was hateful in those texts because he knew Karen Read was lying and it made him furious.
@@barbaramay1866No! I think you’re way off! Proctor saw her taillight was cracked (from hitting John’s car) so he took advantage of it by busting it up. Then they “found” these pieces where John was - hence all HIS lies, covering up for the whole group, even the judge! You must be one of the last few supporting this awful man & horrible group who is using Karen as a coverup!
@@Amy-zs8tx No. It is simply not true, but it is also IMPOSSIBLE!
@@barbaramay1866You keep saying impossible... Every day of this trial I see a conspiracy as more possible or probable.... And it's only the state's case so far.
I sat on a sensitive case jury. To me a few things, Jen MaCab not being a person performing CPR standing outside her sister’s house with an EMT inside and not going to get him makes no sense. The group text saying tell them he didn’t come in the house, and response, and the response, exactly! Her husband letting her go out at 4:30 am in a blizzard and not going, The Canton Police calling in the state to find evidence long after the crime scene was left unprotected so the state police would find the possible evidence ( seems too convenient). Not finding any of this evidence when he was found, Karen played on him bare skin to her bare skin. If he was that above the snow why would t you find big red light pieces. Jen MaCab lead this case from the beginning. I feel sorry Karen if she thought those 2 women were her friends.
The gasp in the court room when Proctor was called by Lally was crazy
how does he know evidence isn't against homeowner if he didn't search
Using personal vehicle to go to a crime scene???? That means can't track them via gps on their cruisers.
Yes because for some reason the work vehicles weren't suitable in the snow. Don't they get bad weather all the time??
KR has several health issues, including MS. This whole situation is horrifying.
I have a friend that has Colitis and it's heart breaking.
She probably shouldn't be drinking until she us blackout drunk.
@@brendaredmond4678or driving drunk!!!!
@brendaredmond4678 there's no evidence that she did
@@brendaredmond4678exactly! Alcohol w her medical condition should be avoided
It only proves that they were out for her from the beginning and she knew it, hence her statement "are we all in on the same joke". She was smart, not guilty for doing that.
Trooper Proctor in the Karen Read Trial is abhorrent! Does this officer still have a job? OMG his texting! The Police should be models of appropriate behavior...this is
beyond the beyond!Inappropriate.Unprofessional
I'm horrified!
If you are the father of a daughter, these messages back and forth between an investigating officer and other officers...completely repulsive!! You just want to smack the crap out of him and ask him what the hell he's thinking!!
These troopers, BUKKAKE & PROCTOR are so disgusting with NO CLASS, 🤢🤢 If you happen to be married to either of these 2 … RUN❗️🙏🙋♀️✨
The father Contrived with her to Cover Up the killing of officer John O'Keefe & normal people Understand exactly who deserves the Smack. BTW - cops are just people & she sat there Smirking about it so Big Deal. No doubt the jurors saw her Too.
These men also have wives and daughters.
@@soakleatheir wives need to RUN with their children ❗️🙋♀️✨
And poor Mr Read sitting in court listening to this filth about his daughter
Judge bev has treated the defense this disgusting in every hearing that they have had with her.. it makes me so mad.. she always cuts them off, sighs, and acts like its such an inconvenience for them to be doing their job but yet she lets lally completely lie and drone on and on without any attitude from her.
None of that is even true. I think y’all have been brainwashed.🥸😐🥹
Yes! Someone in Live mentioned it, but the hat was testified to be a Boston PD cap and Proctor said American flag cap.
Karen has big lawsuit reguardless if she is found guilty or innocent with the hippa law for proctor talking about her private medical issues His badge needs to be taken away!
Actually hippa law only applies to medical professionals however I hope she sues the MSP and canton
Proctor and Yuri stole a vehicle and 2 phones with no warrant or even calling a judge. They violated a few constitutional rights of Karen Read They involved other police again with no warrant.
💯
Proctors comments made me feel physically ill. His supervisors are equally disgusting. The standard you walk by is the standard you accept! Disgusting behaviour by them all!! My heart and support goes out to Karen Read and her family for this injustice.💕
And to the O'Keefe family as well for the incompetence exhibited by the investigation. John deserved so much better!
Attacking ppl who have crohns makes me sick😡
I have Crohns and I can’t imagine how Karen is handling all this stress. 😞
@@jeannehelmick5682 My husband does too and stress makes this worse. He just started biologics and talk about a world of difference. I don’t wish this on anyone.
Attacking ANYONE with a medical condition or disability is NEXT LEVEL DISGUSTING to me
@@Tammy_26Irwin It is one thing if I’m making fun of myself(I have epilepsy) I have had a hemorrhagic stroke(required) open skull surgery so I have a noticeable dent in my head. It’s one way I cope. It’s another for a group of folks to do it.
This judge cannot even manage to pretend to be impartial. It's not okay! The family of this officer had to listen to this from the police assigned to this case, disgusting...
9:00 Her sighs make it seem like she's forgotten what her role and responsibilities are.
Being from South Africa I don’t have the privilege of catching lives but I always listen the next day and your opinions are top notch. Thank you Peter
This seems like the most unbiased channel concerning this case. Great job!
Why didn’t they take a picture of the tail light before they towed it?
Peter said even if LE or the tow truck driver did take a pic, it could cut both ways in trial and that's maybe why both sides are staying away from it.
I have been asking over and over “why aren’t there photos of the taillight?” before and after tow to canton pd. Why? If the taillight was as broken as CW claims, why not photograph it right away and bam, we believe you. But no pics at all showing the damage. So bizarre. It’s what they hang this case on!
@@RileyH-fh8vfif it was intact when picked up and then not of course the defence would use it
The JUDGE is just proving her BIAS and is on the side of the state!
lol that’s why those text messages are in?? You are no different than texting a name about a murderer and her obnoxious attorney. You are calling a judge a name and that she should be fired…hypocrite.
Wrong @@PEBBLEZ21
@@PEBBLEZ21hello Jen
@@PEBBLEZ21 I don't know if you watched the hearing before the trial started today. The judge asked the defence to submit more than a report for their expert witness. The witnesses were from the Federal investigation. She had previously told the defence that they were not allowed to prep the witnesses. Hence the report was the only thing they could rely on. They told the judge that and the judge said you can't so you haven't. Like yeah, they haven't because they weren't allowed to. What were they even supposed to do? Not follow the judge's orders? It was so bizarre!
@@BarelyStated you didn’t listen to it all did you??? They are going to proffer those witnesses. She set it up…good try..
I'm not American, but Proctor's texts are truly shocking and I feel for the women of MA
I was married to a state trooper, who eventually became a sergeant. These guys were ruthless! Jokes about terrible things. Ruthless!
Not ruthless, incompetent and uncivilised.
Proctor and co.....Alberts, McCabes, ATF agt., Higgins, other cops, city fathers?, etc,etc. Clean the mess up, clear the "crooks" OUT! NOW IS THE TIME!